"Moment of Zen"

Joshua Steinman, former military officer who served as Deputy Assistant to President Trump and Senior Director for Cyber (2017-2021), now co-founder of Galvanick, joins Erik Torenberg and AI scout Nathan Labenz for a discussion on the AI arms race. They focus on US-China relations, the rate of AI development, and the global implications of a technological arms race.  Should the US and China work together to prevent a future of AI-powered warfare, or is a conflict inevitable? -- 🔥 Apply to join over 400 Founders and Execs in the Turpentine Network: https://www.turpentinenetwork.co/ -- SPONSORS: 💻 Building an enterprise-ready SaaS app? WorkOS has got you covered with easy-to-integrate APIs for SAML, SCIM, and more. Join top startups like Vercel, Perplexity, Jasper & Webflow in powering your app with WorkOS. Enjoy a free tier for up to 1M users! Start now at https://bit.ly/WorkOS-Turpentine-Network 🌐 Ready to achieve your 2024 goals? Start learning a new language with Babbel in just three weeks. Enjoy app lessons, live classes, and podcasts designed for real-world conversations. Get up to 60% off at Babbel.com/zen 💥 Head to Squad to access global engineering without the headache and at a fraction of the cost: head to https://choosesquad.com/ and mention “Turpentine” to skip the waitlist. -- RECOMMENDED PODCASTS: 🎙️1 to 100 | Hypergrowth Companies Worth Joining Every week we sit down with the founder of a hyper-growth company you should consider joining. Our goal is to give you the inside story behind breakout, early stage companies potentially worth betting your career on. This season, discover how the founders of Modal Labs, Clay, Mercor, and more built their products, cultures, and companies. Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/70NOWtWDY995C8qDqojxGw Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/podcast/id1762756034 - Complex Systems with Patrick McKenzie Patrick McKenzie (@patio11) talks to experts who understand the complicated but not unknowable systems we rely on. You might be surprised at how quickly Patrick and his guests can put you in the top 1% of understanding for stock trading, tech hiring, and more. Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3Mos4VE3figVXleHDqfXOH Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/complex-systems-with-patrick-mckenzie-patio11/id1753399812 -- References mentioned: Systems Confrontation and System Destruction Warfare: How the Chinese People's Liberation Army Seeks to Wage Modern Warfare 2024 Global Threat Report | 2024 Cyber Threat Report -- Follow on X: @JoshuaSteinman @eriktorenberg @turpentinemedia -- TIMESTAMPS: (00:00) Intro (00:16) Reflections on previous episode (03:31) Discussion on AI and Energy Concerns (05:57) AI Arms Race Concerns and China's Plans (09:49) Distributed Training and Rhetoric (12:10) Ashenbrenner Model and Benefit Sharing (15:54) Josh's Experience with Trump and Media Misrepresentation (18:22) Public Perception of Trump and Media Bias (23:07) Reasons for Disparaging Trump and the Dynamics of Power (28:41) China's Nature and Response to China (31:08) AI Concerns, Energy, and Corporate Power (36:02) Tail Risk, Slaughterbots, and Political Power (38:27) Arms Reduction Treaties and Reality (42:05) Decommissioning Nuclear Weapons and AI Arms Race (45:32) Semiconductor Policy and AI Future (47:35) Slaughterbots, AI Control, and Trust-Building (50:18) Olive Branches and China's Leadership (51:52) Rand Corporation Report and Private Speeches (55:13) The Declining Barriers to Entry in Violence (58:48) Einstein Quote and Nuclear Weapons (1:00:36) Wrap

Erik Torenberg and Samo Burja discuss the top challenges Kamala Harris or Donald Trump will have to face in their presidency. They discuss foreign policy, including managing relations with China, reassessing defense contractors, and fostering economic alliances. They also address the inefficiencies in the non-profit sector, energy policy and nuclear power. Erik and Samo release weekly episodes together on the "Live Players" podcast. -- 🔥 Apply to join over 400 Founders and Execs in the Turpentine Network: https://hmplogxqz0y.typeform.com/to/JCkphVqj -- SPONSORS: 💻 Building an enterprise-ready SaaS app? WorkOS has got you covered with easy-to-integrate APIs for SAML, SCIM, and more. Join top startups like Vercel, Perplexity, Jasper & Webflow in powering your app with WorkOS. Enjoy a free tier for up to 1M users! Start now at https://bit.ly/WorkOS-Turpentine-Network 🌐 Ready to achieve your 2024 goals? Start learning a new language with Babbel in just three weeks. Enjoy app lessons, live classes, and podcasts designed for real-world conversations. Get up to 60% off at Babbel.com/zen 💥 Head to Squad to access global engineering without the headache and at a fraction of the cost: head to https://choosesquad.com/ and mention “Turpentine” to skip the waitlist. -- RECOMMENDED PODCASTS: 🎙️1 to 100 | Hypergrowth Companies Worth Joining Every week we sit down with the founder of a hyper-growth company you should consider joining. Our goal is to give you the inside story behind breakout, early stage companies potentially worth betting your career on. This season, discover how the founders of Modal Labs, Clay, Mercor, and more built their products, cultures, and companies. Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/70NOWtWDY995C8qDqojxGw Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/podcast/id1762756034 Complex Systems with Patrick McKenzie Patrick McKenzie (@patio11) talks to experts who understand the complicated but not unknowable systems we rely on. You might be surprised at how quickly Patrick and his guests can put you in the top 1% of understanding for stock trading, tech hiring, and more. Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3Mos4VE3figVXleHDqfXOH Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/complex-systems-with-patrick-mckenzie-patio11/id1753399812 -- Follow on X: @samoburja @eriktorenberg @turpentinemedia -- TIMESTAMPS: (00:00) Intro (02:37) Biggest obstacles (05:34) Bureaucratic reform and leaks (11:51) A second Donald Trump term (13:20) Nonprofits (16:02) Sponsors: WorkOS | Babbel (18:27) Curtis Yarvin’s theory of a major US overhaul (27:46) Energy policy and cheap nuclear power (21:40) Foreign policy advice and China (32:19) Sponsor: Squad (33:58) Middle East and Russia foreign policy recommendations (44:06) Restructuring the US Air Force: Focus on drones over manned fighters (46:15) Proposal for special economic zones to boost industrial policy (50:07) Ideas for revitalizing US manufacturing and competing with China

Brian Armstrong, CEO of Coinbase, joins Erik Torenberg, Dan Romero, and Antonio Garcia Martinez to talk about the company's evolution and the broader crypto landscape. Following Coinbase's public listing and the recent regulatory environment, Armstrong discusses Coinbase's focus on product development, their efforts in Washington D.C., and strategies for increasing global crypto adoption. Armstrong also touches on his venture into biotech with New Limit, the changing media landscape, and the future of economic freedom through decentralized technologies. -- 🔥 Apply to join over 400 Founders and Execs in the Turpentine Network: https://hmplogxqz0y.typeform.com/to/JCkphVqj -- SPONSORS: 💻 Building an enterprise-ready SaaS app? WorkOS has got you covered with easy-to-integrate APIs for SAML, SCIM, and more. Join top startups like Vercel, Perplexity, Jasper & Webflow in powering your app with WorkOS. Enjoy a free tier for up to 1M users! Start now at https://bit.ly/WorkOS-Turpentine-Network 📈 More than 37,000 businesses have already upgraded to NetSuite by Oracle, the #1 cloud financial system bringing accounting, financial management, inventory, HR, into ONE proven platform. If you're looking for an ERP platform, get a one-of-a-kind flexible financing program on NetSuite: netsuite.com/102 🌐 Ready to achieve your 2024 goals? Start learning a new language with Babbel in just three weeks. Enjoy app lessons, live classes, and podcasts designed for real-world conversations. Get up to 60% off at Babbel.com/zen 💥 Head to Squad to access global engineering without the headache and at a fraction of the cost: head to https://choosesquad.com/ and mention “Turpentine” to skip the waitlist. -- RECOMMENDED PODCASTS: 🎙️1 to 100 | Hypergrowth Companies Worth Joining Every week we sit down with the founder of a hyper-growth company you should consider joining. Our goal is to give you the inside story behind breakout, early stage companies potentially worth betting your career on. This season, discover how the founders of Modal Labs, Clay, Mercor, and more built their products, cultures, and companies. Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/70NOWtWDY995C8qDqojxGw Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/podcast/id1762756034 - RECOMMENDED PODCAST: Complex Systems with Patrick McKenzie Patrick McKenzie (@patio11) talks to experts who understand the complicated but not unknowable systems we rely on. You might be surprised at how quickly Patrick and his guests can put you in the top 1% of understanding for stock trading, tech hiring, and more. Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3Mos4VE3figVXleHDqfXOH Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/complex-systems-with-patrick-mckenzie-patio11/id1753399812 -- LINKS: Base: https://www.base.org/ Coinbase Developer Platform: https://cdp.coinbase.com/ New Limit: https://www.newlimit.com/ Farcaster: https://www.farcaster.xyz/ Stand With Crypto: https://standwithcrypto.org/ -- FOLLOW ON X: @brian_armstrong (Brian) @eriktorenberg (Erik) @dwr (Dan) @antoniogm (Antonio) @moz_podcast (MoZ) @turpentinemedia (Turpentine) TIMESTAMPS: (00:00) Intro (01:57) Brian's Current Focus Areas at Coinbase (03:59) Coinbase's Move Towards Decentralization (05:59) Coinbase's Approach to Innovation (11:00) Thoughts on Mass Market Crypto Adoption (15:31) Sponsor: WorkOS | NetSuite (17:44) Crypto's Implications Beyond Payments (23:54) Experiences with Crypto Regulation in DC (28:56) Sponsor: Babbel | Squad  (31:57) Coinbase's Marketing Strategy (35:59) Measuring Economic Freedom and Crypto Adoption (44:52) Origins of New Limit Biotech Company (50:59) Challenges of Shifting from Crypto to Biotech (53:58) Reflections on Dan Romero's Contributions to Coinbase (56:56) Thoughts on Balaji Srinivasan (57:58) Balaji's Insights on Media Landscape (1:00:24) Wrap

In this episode of Moment of Zen, Erik Torenberg is joined by Samuel Hammond (@hamandcheese), a senior economist at the Foundation for American Innovation and AI Scout/ Cognitive Revolution podcast host Nathan Labenz (@labenz). From drug innovation to nuclear risk, they discuss the impact of AI on policy and governance, exploring the challenges and opportunities of a Trump vs. Harris presidency. From drug innovation to nuclear risk, they dissect the impact of AI on policy and governance, exploring the challenges and opportunities of a Trump vs. Harris presidency. -- 🔥 Apply to join over 400 Founders and Execs in the Turpentine Network: https://hmplogxqz0y.typeform.com/to/JCkphVqj - RECOMMENDED PODCASTS: 🎙️1 to 100 | Hypergrowth Companies Worth Joining Every week we sit down with the founder of a hyper-growth company you should consider joining. Our goal is to give you the inside story behind breakout, early stage companies potentially worth betting your career on. This season, discover how the founders of Modal Labs, Clay, Mercor, and more built their products, cultures, and companies. Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/70NOWtWDY995C8qDqojxGw Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/podcast/id1762756034 -- SPONSORS: 💻 Building an enterprise-ready SaaS app? WorkOS has got you covered with easy-to-integrate APIs for SAML, SCIM, and more. Join top startups like Vercel, Perplexity, Jasper & Webflow in powering your app with WorkOS. Enjoy a free tier for up to 1M users! Start now at https://bit.ly/WorkOS-TCR 🌐 Ready to achieve your 2024 goals? Start learning a new language with Babbel in just three weeks. Enjoy app lessons, live classes, and podcasts designed for real-world conversations. Get up to 60% off at Babbel.com/zen 📈 More than 37,000 businesses have already upgraded to NetSuite by Oracle, the #1 cloud financial system bringing accounting, financial management, inventory, HR, into ONE proven platform. If you're looking for an ERP platform, get a one-of-a-kind flexible financing program on NetSuite: netsuite.com/102 💥 Head to Squad to access global engineering without the headache and at a fraction of the cost: head to https://choosesquad.com/ and mention “Turpentine” to skip the waitlist. -- LINKS: Samuel Hammond Essays * The EA case for Trump 2024: https://www.secondbest.ca/p/the-ea-case-for-trump-2024 * AI and Leviathan: Part I: https://www.secondbest.ca/p/ai-and-leviathan-part-i * A Manhattan Project for AI Safety: https://www.secondbest.ca/p/a-manhattan-project-for-ai-safety Books: * Asymmetric Politics: How the New Right Became Resurgent in American Politics by Matthew Grossmann and David Hopkins * The New Class War by Michael Lind * The Great Stagnation by Tyler Cowen * The Singularity Is Near by Ray Kurzweil -- FOLLOW US ON X: @eriktorenberg (Erik) @hamandcheese (Samuel)  @labenz (Nathan) @turpentinemedia (Turpentine) TIMESTAMPS: (00:00) Introduction (01:08) Samuel's Perspective on Trump: Focus on Innovation (03:54) Nathan's Perspective on Trump: Focus on Tail Risks (07:55) Governing Philosophies and Party Structures (14:53) The Need for Understanding AI on Its Own Terms (20:48) The Potential for AI to Reform the Administrative State (21:38) Sponsor: Babbel | WorkOS (29:34) The Dissonance Between Idealism and Reality (32:33) Sponsor: NetSuite| Squad (37:54) The Potential for a Crisis-Driven AI Policy (48:56) The Case for a Trump Administration in Light of Past Policies (1:13:20) The Risks of an AI Arms Race (1:28:28) The Potential for a Shared AI Future (1:47:56) The Need for a Pause in AI Development (1:57:02) The Limits of Individual Leadership and the Importance of Institutional Change (1:58:17) The Hypothetical Scenario of Trump Ordering a Nuclear Strike (2:02:02) The Need for Outsider Leadership

Today two anonymous friends of the podcast, Indian Bronson and "Hannah" join Erik Torenberg to make their moral case for Donald Trump. They discuss why swapping Kamala Harris for Joe Biden could cause a "reprise of Obama 2012", the immigration restrictionist viewpoint, and the "aesthetic baggage" that often comes along with the radical leaders capable of ushering in change.  🔥 Apply to join over 400 Founders and Execs in the Turpentine Network: https://hmplogxqz0y.typeform.com/to/JCkphVqj -- RECOMMENDED PODCASTS: 🎙️1 to 100 | Hypergrowth Companies Worth Joining Every week we sit down with the founder of a hyper-growth company you should consider joining. Our goal is to give you the inside story behind breakout, early stage companies potentially worth betting your career on. This season, discover how the founders of Modal Labs, Clay, Mercor, and more built their products, cultures, and companies. Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/70NOWtWDY995C8qDqojxGw Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/podcast/id1762756034 - Complex Systems with Patrick McKenzie Patrick McKenzie (@patio11) talks to experts who understand the complicated but not unknowable systems we rely on. You might be surprised at how quickly Patrick and his guests can put you in the top 1% of understanding for stock trading, tech hiring, and more. Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3Mos4VE3figVXleHDqfXOH Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/complex-systems-with-patrick-mckenzie-patio11/id1753399812 -- SPONSORS: 💻 Building an enterprise-ready SaaS app? WorkOS has got you covered with easy-to-integrate APIs for SAML, SCIM, and more. Join top startups like Vercel, Perplexity, Jasper & Webflow in powering your app with WorkOS. Enjoy a free tier for up to 1M users! Start now at https://bit.ly/WorkOS-TCR 🌐 Ready to achieve your 2024 goals? Start learning a new language with Babbel in just three weeks. Enjoy app lessons, live classes, and podcasts designed for real-world conversations. Get up to 60% off at Babbel.com/zen 💥 Head to Squad to access global engineering without the headache and at a fraction of the cost: head to https://choosesquad.com/ and mention “Turpentine” to skip the waitlist. -- LINKS: Moment of Zen w/ Noah Smith - Case for Biden’s Legacy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntTPeo5ciXo Moment of Zen w/ Hannah and Antonio https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwS22WZ4gzY Moment of Zen w/ Richard Hanania - Trump/Biden Predictions with Richard Hanania: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mKjFeUJXOI Upstream with Erik Torenberg - Bryan Caplan on Housing Regulation, Fertility, and Crime: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8jeiGz8Qs4 Indian Bronson Substack:  https://indianbronson.substack.com/ Center for American Progress Presentation - America’s Electoral Future: https://www.americanprogress.org/article/americas-electoral-future-3/ Norman Potter: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norman_Potter Sam Brinton:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_Brinton -- FOLLOW US ON X: @eriktorenberg (Erik) @Indian_Bronson @turpentinemedia (Turpentine) TIMESTAMPS: (00:00) Intro (02:55) The Moral Case for Trump (03:05) Kamala Harris and the Biden Administration (04:19) The Role of the American Presidency (05:03) The Problem with Unaccountable Bureaucracy (05:27) The Impact of Voter Preferences on Policy (09:40) The Obama Era and Its Aftermath (11:00) The Case for Trump 2024 (13:04) National Identity (17:24) Sponsor: WorkOS | Babbel (21:20) The Consequences of Unchecked Immigration (28:05) Sponsor: Squad (30:38) The Need for a Common Civic Culture (37:15) Election Legitimacy and Voter Fraud (37:54) Illegal Immigration (39:23) Quality of Life in Different Cities (40:21) Law Enforcement (41:13) Immigration and Labor Force (48:39) Cultural Assimilation and National Identity (50:41) The Aesthetic Baggage of Trump's Character (1:01:28) Historical Context of Bombasity and Violence in American Politics

In today’s episode, Noah Smith and Erik Torenberg discuss the potential of Kamala Harris as a presidential nominee, President Biden’s legacy, impact of COVID-19 on the economy and inflation, and the recent shifts in U.S. foreign relations and immigration policies. 🔥 Apply to join over 400 Founders and Execs in the Turpentine Network: https://hmplogxqz0y.typeform.com/to/JCkphVqj -- RECOMMENDED PODCASTS: 🎙️1 to 100 | Hypergrowth Companies Worth Joining Every week we sit down with the founder of a hyper-growth company you should consider joining. Our goal is to give you the inside story behind breakout, early stage companies potentially worth betting your career on. This season, discover how the founders of Modal Labs, Clay, Mercor, and more built their products, cultures, and companies. Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/70NOWtWDY995C8qDqojxGw Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/podcast/id1762756034 - Complex Systems with Patrick McKenzie Patrick McKenzie (@patio11) talks to experts who understand the complicated but not unknowable systems we rely on. You might be surprised at how quickly Patrick and his guests can put you in the top 1% of understanding for stock trading, tech hiring, and more. Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3Mos4VE3figVXleHDqfXOH Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/complex-systems-with-patrick-mckenzie-patio11/id1753399812 -- SPONSORS: COMMANDBAR | BEEHIIV | BABBEL | SQUAD 🦾 Level up your ineffective website chatbot with CommandBar. CommandBar builds a new type of web assistant which delivers highly personalized responses, real time co-browsing, and can perform actions on behalf of the users. Learn how Hashicorp, Gusto, Freshworks and more use CommandBar at https://commandbar.com/moz Head to Beehiiv, the newsletter platform built for growth, to power your own. Connect with premium brands, scale your audience, and deliver a beautiful UX that stands out in an inbox. 🐝 https://Beehiiv.com and use code "MOZ" for 20% off your first three months 🌐 Ready to achieve your 2024 goals? Start learning a new language with Babbel in just three weeks. Enjoy app lessons, live classes, and podcasts designed for real-world conversations. Get up to 60% off at Babbel.com/torenberg 💥 Head to Squad to access global engineering without the headache and at a fraction of the cost: head to https://choosesquad.com/ and mention “Turpentine” to skip the waitlist. -- FOLLOW US ON X: @noahpinion (Noah) @eriktorenberg (Erik) @turpentinemedia (Turpentine) -- TIMESTAMPS: (00:00) Intro (00:17) Kamala Harris's political prospects (05:04) Biden's legacy and presidential impact (14:51) Sponsors: Commandbar | Beehiiv (17:12) COVID-19 vaccine release (16:03) Inflation and economic policies (22:53) Industrial policy and trade (32:26) Sponsor: Babbel | Squad (35:09) Impact of Trump’s presidency (40:19) Afghanistan withdrawal and the role of Trump and Biden (47:20) Ukraine: Biden administration's response (55:48) Biden's big challenge on immigration (59:16) Wrap

In this episode of Moment of Zen, Balaji Srinivasan sits down with Erik Torenberg to discuss the massive vibe shift in Silicon Valley a week after Trump's near-assassination, tech's emerging role as a counter-elite force, why Biden is president NPC, January 6, and the role of the media. 🔥 Apply to join over 400 Founders and Execs in the Turpentine Network: https://hmplogxqz0y.typeform.com/to/JCkphVqj This show is produced by Turpentine: a network of podcasts, newsletters, and more, covering technology, business, and culture — all from the perspective of industry insiders and experts. We’re launching new shows every week, and we’re looking for industry-leading sponsors — if you think that might be you and your company, email us at erik@turpentine.co. -- RECOMMENDED PODCASTS: 🎙️1 to 100 | Hypergrowth Companies Worth Joining Every week we sit down with the founder of a hyper-growth company you should consider joining. Our goal is to give you the inside story behind breakout, early stage companies potentially worth betting your career on. This season, discover how the founders of Modal Labs, Clay, Mercor, and more built their products, cultures, and companies. Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/70NOWtWDY995C8qDqojxGw Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/podcast/id1762756034 - Complex Systems with Patrick McKenzie Patrick McKenzie (@patio11) talks to experts who understand the complicated but not unknowable systems we rely on. You might be surprised at how quickly Patrick and his guests can put you in the top 1% of understanding for stock trading, tech hiring, and more. Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3Mos4VE3figVXleHDqfXOH Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/complex-systems-with-patrick-mckenzie-patio11/id1753399812 -- SPONSORS: Head to Beehiiv, the newsletter platform built for growth, to power your own. Connect with premium brands, scale your audience, and deliver a beautiful UX that stands out in an inbox. 🐝 https://Beehiiv.com and use code "MOZ" for 20% off your first three months 🌐 Ready to achieve your 2024 goals? Start learning a new language with Babbel in just three weeks. Enjoy app lessons, live classes, and podcasts designed for real-world conversations. Get up to 60% off at Babbel.com/torenberg 💥 Head to Squad to access global engineering without the headache and at a fraction of the cost: head to https://choosesquad.com/ and mention “Turpentine” to skip the waitlist. 🦾 Level up your ineffective website chatbot with CommandBar. CommandBar builds a new type of web assistant which delivers highly personalized responses, real time co-browsing, and can perform actions on behalf of the users. Learn how Hashicorp, Gusto, Freshworks and more use CommandBar at https://commandbar.com/moz -- LINKS: Librem 5 Phone: https://puri.sm/products/librem-5/ School of Fish Meme: https://x.com/balajis/status/1489288836349784064 Graph: History is Running in Reverse: https://x.com/balajis/status/1749858089665257497 FBI Lost Count of Number of Informants at Jan 6: https://nypost.com/2023/09/19/fbi-lost-count-of-number-of-informants-at-capitol-on-jan-6-ex-official/ Most important article: https://time.com/5936036/secret-2020-election-campaign/ --- FOLLOW US ON X: @balajis (Balaji) @eriktorenberg (Erik) @turpentinemedia (Turpentine) --- TIMESTAMPS: (00:00) Introduction (01:21) The Vibe Shift in the Tech Industry (02:54) The Tech Counter-Elite (08:01) Tech's Influence on Politics (14:32) Tech's Impact on the Republican Party (20:40) The Democrat Party and the Tech Counter-Elite (26:49) Sponsors: beehiiv | Babbel (29:39) The Core Disagreement: Who Should Run Things? (38:45) The Power Struggle Between the Elite and Counter-Elite (38:49) Sponsors: CommandBar | Squad (40:02) Political Parties as Swarms of Ideologies (49:56) Adapting to a Changing World Order (1:12:41) The Media's Role in Shaping Public Opinion (1:26:48) The Potential for New Cities and Countries (1:41:54) Wrap

In this episode, Samo Burja and Erik Torenberg discuss China's energy strategy and its broader geopolitical implications. Contrary to popular belief, China is not aggressively pursuing energy independence but remains reliant on imports despite significant domestic oil production. The conversation delves into China's geopolitical strategy, its military preparedness, and the potential consequences of a conflict over Taiwan. The episode also explores the broader implications of a potential U.S.-China industrial competition and the risks of a bipolar world. - This show is produced by Turpentine: a network of podcasts, newsletters, and more, covering technology, business, and culture — all from the perspective of industry insiders and experts. We’re launching new shows every week, and we’re looking for industry-leading sponsors — if you think that might be you and your company, email us at erik@turpentine.co. -- RECOMMENDED PODCAST: Complex Systems with Patrick McKenzie Patrick McKenzie (@patio11) talks to experts who understand the complicated but not unknowable systems we rely on. You might be surprised at how quickly Patrick and his guests can put you in the top 1% of understanding for stock trading, tech hiring, and more. Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3Mos4VE3figVXleHDqfXOH Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/complex-systems-with-patrick-mckenzie-patio11/id1753399812 - 🎙️ Second Opinion - A new podcast for health-tech insiders from Christina Farr of the Second Opinion newsletter. Join Christina Farr, Luba Greenwood, and Ash Zenooz every week as they challenge industry experts with tough questions about the best bets in health-tech. Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/id1759267211 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0A8NwQE976s32zdBbZw6bv — SPONSORS: Head to Beehiiv, the newsletter platform built for growth, to power your own. Connect with premium brands, scale your audience, and deliver a beautiful UX that stands out in an inbox. 🐝 https://Beehiiv.com and use code "MOZ" for 20% off your first three months 🌐 Ready to achieve your 2024 goals? Start learning a new language with Babbel in just three weeks. Enjoy app lessons, live classes, and podcasts designed for real-world conversations. Get up to 60% off at Babbel.com/torenberg --- REFERENCED ARTICLES: “China Isn’t Pursuing Energy Independence” https://brief.bismarckanalysis.com/p/china-isnt-pursuing-energy-independence --- LINKS: Samo’s Bismarck Brief: https://brief.bismarckanalysis.com/ --- FOLLOW US ON X: @eriktorenberg (Erik) @samoburja (Samo) @turpentinemedia (Turpentine) --- TIMESTAMPS: (00:00) Introduction (01:46) China's Domestic Oil Production (03:00) Energy Independence and Geopolitical Strategy (04:00) Comparing US and China Energy Policies (05:13) China's Economic Logic Over Energy Security (06:09) China's Relationship with Iran and Russia (07:55) Modernizing China's Petrochemical Industry (08:33) Advising China on Resource Independence (16:13) Sponsors: beehiiv | Babbel (18:58) China's Strategic Priorities and War Likelihood (22:16) Western Brinksmanship and Misconceptions (29:29) The Role of Manufacturing in Modern Warfare (30:44) The Need for a Massive Industrial Base (33:30) Sponsors: Squad (34:54) China's Strategic Military Preparations (36:57) China's Oil and Resource Capabilities (40:11) The Taiwan Conflict: Economic and Military Implications (52:47) The Future of Global Power Dynamics

This week, Noah Smith joins Erik Torenberg to discuss America's future. They cover the 2024 presidential race, the Chevron ruling from the Supreme Court, and the polarization of the education system. Noah and Erik also discuss where wokeness goes from here, and the potential outcomes of integrating more conservatives into the civil service through initiatives like Project 2025. Noah also debunks the deep state myth and discusses the real issues surrounding Biden's age, questioning the influence of "political handlers" and the reality of a "deep state." 🔥 Apply to join over 400 founders and Execs in the Turpentine Network: https://hmplogxqz0y.typeform.com/to/JCkphVqj -- RECOMMENDED PODCAST: 🎙️ Second Opinion - A new podcast for health-tech insiders from Christina Farr of the Second Opinion newsletter. Join Christina Farr, Luba Greenwood, and Ash Zenooz every week as they challenge industry experts with tough questions about the best bets in health-tech. Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/id1759267211 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0A8NwQE976s32zdBbZw6bv Complex Systems with Patrick McKenzie Patrick McKenzie (@patio11) talks to experts who understand the complicated but not unknowable systems we rely on. You might be surprised at how quickly Patrick and his guests can put you in the top 1% of understanding for stock trading, tech hiring, and more. Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3Mos4VE3figVXleHDqfXOH Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/complex-systems-with-patrick-mckenzie-patio11/id1753399812 -- SPONSORS: BEEHIIV | BABBEL | SQUAD 🌐 Ready to achieve your 2024 goals? Start learning a new language with Babbel in just three weeks. Enjoy app lessons, live classes, and podcasts designed for real-world conversations. Get up to 60% off at babbel.com/zen 🐝 Head to beehiiv, the newsletter platform built for growth, to power your own. Connect with premium brands, scale your audience, and deliver a beautiful UX that stands out in an inbox. A special offer is at https://beehiiv.com: use code "MOZ" for 20% off your first three months. 💥 Head to Squad to access global engineering without the headache and at a fraction of the cost: head to https://choosesquad.com/ and mention “Turpentine” to skip the waitlist. -- FOLLOW ON X: @eriktorenberg (Erik) @Noahpinion (Noah) @moz_podcast (Moment of Zen) @TurpentineMedia -- TIMESTAMPS: (00:00) Preview (01:09) 4th of July Celebrations and Mailbag Questions (01:51) Debate Reflections: Trump vs. Biden (02:35) Biden's Age and Democratic Dilemma (03:09) Kamala Harris: The Successor Debate (04:12) Michelle Obama: A Potential Candidate? (07:06) The Deep State: Myth or Reality? (11:30) Bernie Sanders and the DNC (13:58) Chevron Ruling and Its Implications (19:10) Sponsor: beehiiv | Babbel (22:44) Project 2025 and Civil Service Polarization (30:34) Reflecting on the Floyd Protests (31:57) The Impact of Trump's Presidency (35:05) Sponsors: Squad  (36:29) Debating the Administrative State (38:31) Challenges in the Education System (46:56) Redistribution and Class in America (53:37) The Future of UBI and Cash Benefits (57:51) Wrap

In this episode of Moment of Zen, Erik, Antonio, as well as two friends of the podcast who prefer to stay anonymous, discuss the disastrous Biden/Trump debate and what could happen after. They explore the state of U.S. politics by scrutinizing Joe Biden's controversial debate performance and its implications on his presidency, as well as reactions from the media and its impact on U.S. foreign relations. 🔥 Apply to join over 400 founders and Execs in the Turpentine Network: https://hmplogxqz0y.typeform.com/to/JCkphVqj -- RECOMMENDED PODCAST: 🎙️ Second Opinion - A new podcast for health-tech insiders from Christina Farr of the Second Opinion newsletter. Join Christina Farr, Luba Greenwood, and Ash Zenooz every week as they challenge industry experts with tough questions about the best bets in health-tech. Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/id1759267211 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0A8NwQE976s32zdBbZw6bv - Complex Systems with Patrick McKenzie Patrick McKenzie (@patio11) talks to experts who understand the complicated but not unknowable systems we rely on. You might be surprised at how quickly Patrick and his guests can put you in the top 1% of understanding for stock trading, tech hiring, and more. Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3Mos4VE3figVXleHDqfXOH Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/complex-systems-with-patrick-mckenzie-patio11/id1753399812 -- SPONSORS: COMMANDBAR | NETSUITE | BEEHIIV | BABBEL | SQUAD 🦾 Level up your ineffective website chatbot with CommandBar. CommandBar builds a new type of web assistant which delivers highly personalized responses, real time co-browsing, and can perform actions on behalf of the users. Learn how Hashicorp, Gusto, Freshworks and more use CommandBar at https://commandbar.com/moz 🌐 Ready to achieve your 2024 goals? Start learning a new language with Babbel in just three weeks. Enjoy app lessons, live classes, and podcasts designed for real-world conversations. Get up to 60% off at babbel.com/zen 🐝 Head to beehiiv, the newsletter platform built for growth, to power your own. Connect with premium brands, scale your audience, and deliver a beautiful UX that stands out in an inbox. A special offer is at https://beehiiv.com: use code "MOZ" for 20% off your first three months. 📈 NetSuite has 25 years of providing financial software for all your business needs. More than 36,000 businesses have already upgraded to NetSuite by Oracle, gaining visibility and control over their financials, inventory, HR, eCommerce, and more. If you’re looking for an ERP platform head to NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/zen - NetSuite has extended a one-of-a-kind flexible financing program for a few more weeks. 💥 Head to Squad to access global engineering without the headache and at a fraction of the cost: head to https://choosesquad.com/ and mention “Turpentine” to skip the waitlist. -- FOLLOW ON X: @eriktorenberg (Erik) @agm.eth (Antonio) @moz_podcast (Moment of Zen) @TurpentineMedia -- TIMESTAMPS: (00:00) Political Gaffes and the Current State of Politics (01:23) Sponsor: CommandBar (02:18) Biden's Performance and Cognitive Decline (03:21) The Role of Media and Public Perception (07:15) Biden's Decision-Making and Political Dynamics (12:53) Potential Political Replacements and Speculations (14:55) Sponsors: Babbel | beehiiv (19:51) International Perspectives and Influence (22:30) Trump vs. Biden: Public Perception and Debate Tactics (27:43) Sponsors: NetSuite | Squad (36:54) Debating Biden's Public Image (37:48) Tech's Right-Wing Shift and Trump Endorsement (38:51) Silicon Valley's Political Divide (39:53) Crypto's Trump Support (40:49) Changing Political Opinions in Tech (45:30) Trump's Unpredictable Nature (46:32) Biden's Aging and Potential Successors (51:38) January 6th and Its Aftermath (1:07:01) Trump's Second Term Concerns (1:20:59) Wrap

In this episode of Moment of Zen, Erik interviews Richard Hanania about the evolving political landscape in the U.S., focusing on the changing dynamics within both the Republican and Democratic parties. They discuss the influence of big tech, the rise of Trumpism, political polarization, and the intellectual underpinnings of current political ideologies. We’re publishing this conversation across Moment of Zen and Upstream since the themes are highly relevant to both shows. 🔥 Apply to join over 400 founders and Execs in the Turpentine Network: https://hmplogxqz0y.typeform.com/to/JCkphVqj -- RECOMMENDED PODCAST: Patrick McKenzie (@patio11) talks to experts who understand the complicated but not unknowable systems we rely on. You might be surprised at how quickly Patrick and his guests can put you in the top 1% of understanding for stock trading, tech hiring, and more. Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3Mos4VE3figVXleHDqfXOH Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/id1753399812https://podcasts.apple.com/id1753399812 -- SPONSORS: COMMANDBAR | NETSUITE | BEEHIIV | BABBEL | SQUAD 🦾 Level up your ineffective website chatbot with CommandBar. CommandBar builds a new type of web assistant which delivers highly personalized responses, real time co-browsing, and can perform actions on behalf of the users. Learn how Hashicorp, Gusto, Freshworks and more use CommandBar at https://commandbar.com/moz 📈 NetSuite has 25 years of providing financial software for all your business needs. More than 36,000 businesses have already upgraded to NetSuite by Oracle, gaining visibility and control over their financials, inventory, HR, eCommerce, and more. If you’re looking for an ERP platform head to NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/zen - NetSuite has extended a one-of-a-kind flexible financing program for a few more weeks. 🐝 Head to beehiiv, the newsletter platform built for growth, to power your own. Connect with premium brands, scale your audience, and deliver a beautiful UX that stands out in an inbox. A special offer is at https://beehiiv.com: use code "MOZ" for 20% off your first three months 🌐 Ready to achieve your 2024 goals? Start learning a new language with Babbel in just three weeks. Enjoy app lessons, live classes, and podcasts designed for real-world conversations. Get up to 60% off at babbel.com/zen 💥 Head to Squad to access global engineering without the headache and at a fraction of the cost: head to https://choosesquad.com/ and mention “Turpentine” to skip the waitlist. -- FOLLOW ON X: @eriktorenberg (Erik) @RichardHanania (Richard) @moz_podcast (Moment of Zen) @TurpentineMedia -- TIMESTAMPS: (00:00) Introduction (01:11) Silicon Valley's Shift: Anti-Wokeness and Economic Concerns (03:23) Political Evolution and Disillusionment with the Right (04:18) Conservatism, Technology, and Cultural Grievances (08:56) Human Capital and the Right's IQ Problem (13:53) Sponsor: CommandBar | Netsuite (16:22) Religion, Fertility, and Societal Coordination (19:10) The Return Philosophy and Women's Happiness (21:17) Trump's Political Genius and Threat to Democracy (26:01) Sponsor: beehiiv | Babbel | Squad (29:59) Biden vs. Trump: Election Predictions and Policy Impacts (38:34) Debunking Antisemitism Claims in Protests (39:28) Political Strategy and Victimhood (40:55) Historical Context of Antisemitism (42:11) Comparing Minority Experiences (42:56) Demonization and Conspiracy Theories (45:14) Evaluating Political Motivations (47:12) The Role of Intellectuals and Media (52:03) Immigration and National Identity (59:47) Future of American Politics (1:02:40) On Open Borders (1:04:51) IQ vs Common Sense (1:07:42) The Future of the Left and Right (1:13:56) Wrap

Today on Moment of Zen, Journalist Pascal-Emmanuel Gobry sits with Erik Torenberg to explain the volatile state of French politics following recent European Parliament elections where Macron’s party performed poorly and the National Rally did very well. The conversation offers insights into the broader implications of these political shifts, touches on the societal divisions fueling these changes, immigration, and the potential economic impact on France. 🔥 Apply to join over 400 founders and Execs in the Turpentine Network: https://hmplogxqz0y.typeform.com/to/JCkphVqj RECOMMENDED PODCAST: Patrick McKenzie (@patio11) talks to experts who understand the complicated but not unknowable systems we rely on. You might be surprised at how quickly Patrick and his guests can put you in the top 1% of understanding for stock trading, tech hiring, and more. Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3Mos4VE3figVXleHDqfXOH Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/id1753399812https://podcasts.apple.com/id1753399812 -- SPONSORS: COMMANDBAR | BABBEL | BEEHIIV | NETSUITE | SQUAD 🦾 Level up your ineffective website chatbot with CommandBar. CommandBar builds a new type of web assistant which delivers highly personalized responses, real time co-browsing, and can perform actions on behalf of the users. Learn how Hashicorp, Gusto, Freshworks and more use CommandBar at https://commandbar.com/moz 🌐 Ready to achieve your 2024 goals? Start learning a new language with Babbel in just three weeks. Enjoy app lessons, live classes, and podcasts designed for real-world conversations. Get up to 60% off at babbel.com/zen 🐝 Head to beehiiv, the newsletter platform built for growth, to power your own. Connect with premium brands, scale your audience, and deliver a beautiful UX that stands out in an inbox. A special offer is at https://beehiiv.com: use code "MOZ" for 20% off your first three months 📈 NetSuite has 25 years of providing financial software for all your business needs. More than 36,000 businesses have already upgraded to NetSuite by Oracle, gaining visibility and control over their financials, inventory, HR, eCommerce, and more. If you’re looking for an ERP platform head to NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/zen - NetSuite has extended a one-of-a-kind flexible financing program for a few more weeks. 💥 Head to Squad to access global engineering without the headache and at a fraction of the cost: head to https://choosesquad.com/ and mention “Turpentine” to skip the waitlist. -- FOLLOW ON X: @eriktorenberg (Erik) @pegobry_en (Pascal) @moz_podcast (Moment of Zen) @TurpentineMedia -- TIMESTAMPS: (00:00) Introduction (00:35) Sponsor: CommandBar (04:20) Macron's Strategy & Cohabitation (08:11) The Political Landscape (14:28) Comparison with U.S. Politics (14:48) Sponsor: Babbel | beehiiv (16:22) Macron's Unpopularity & Economic Challenges (21:02) Energy Policy and the Rise of Populism (24:01) Sponsor: Netsuite | Squad (27:94) The Economic Consequences of Populism (31:11) France vs. Brexit (35:46) The Future of France (45:00) Brexit Comparison & EU Reform (52:57) The Role of Young People in the Future (54:34) Wrap

In this episode that originally aired on Upstream, Erik sits down with Balaji Srinivasan to discuss the Fiat Crisis, geopolitics, conspiracies, and the signs of decline for a hyperpower. It was recorded in June of 2023. Balaji is an angel investor, tech founder, philosopher, and author of The Network State. He was formerly the CTO of Coinbase. 🔥 Apply to join over 400 founders and Execs in the Turpentine Network: https://hmplogxqz0y.typeform.com/to/JCkphVqj RECOMMENDED PODCAST: Patrick McKenzie (@patio11) talks to experts who understand the complicated but not unknowable systems we rely on. You might be surprised at how quickly Patrick and his guests can put you in the top 1% of understanding for stock trading, tech hiring, and more. Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3Mos4VE3figVXleHDqfXOH Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/id1753399812https://podcasts.apple.com/id1753399812 - SPONSORS: NETSUITE | BEEHIIV | SQUAD NETSUITE 📈 NetSuite has 25 years of providing financial software for all your business needs. More than 36,000 businesses have already upgraded to NetSuite by Oracle, gaining visibility and control over their financials, inventory, HR, eCommerce, and more. If you’re looking for an ERP platform head to NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/zen - NetSuite has extended a one-of-a-kind flexible financing program for a few more weeks. BEEHIIV 🐝 Head to Beehiiv, the newsletter platform built for growth, to power your own. Connect with premium brands, scale your audience, and deliver a beautiful UX that stands out in an inbox. Go to https://Beehiiv.com and use code "MOZ" for 20% off your first three months BABBEL 🌐 Ready to achieve your 2024 goals? Start learning a new language with Babbel in just three weeks. Enjoy app lessons, live classes, and podcasts designed for real-world conversations. Get up to 60% off at Babbel.com/zen SQUAD 💥 Head to Squad to access global engineering without the headache and at a fraction of the cost: head to https://choosesquad.com/ and mention “Turpentine” to skip the waitlist. - FOLLOW ON X: @eriktorenberg (Erik) @balajis (Balaji) @moz_podcast (Moment of Zen) @TurpentineMedia – TIMESTAMPS: (00:00) Episode Preview (00:51) Intro (01:23) Understanding the flat crisis (08:34) Balaji’s equivalent premises (14:54) Sponsor: NetSuite and Beehiiv (17:55) Aftermath of Iraq and Afghanistan wars (20:35) Multipolar world (25:17) Blue America is at war with the world (28:35) Sponsor: Babbel | Squad (31:02) Cancellation is a weak form of warfare (33:05) Interplay of realism and idealism in the U.S (37:00) Red vs Blue vs Grey America (44:11) Concept of American partition (46:00) Rise of India's national Identity (47:00) Evolution of China and Russia (53:00) Microsoft, Facebook, and Google (54:00) Japan-USSR rivalry and its impact (01:01:10) Conspiracy theories and historical narratives (01:09:00) Balaji’s predictions for 2024 & the Fed (01:18:31) Wrap

David Sacks is known as a CEO/investor in multiple unicorns, and most recently a media mogul with All-In. In this episode, he sits down with Erik Torenberg to trace his intellectual and political history from his days fighting student activism at Stanford to now. We cover the political and cultural changes in the last 30 years of silicon valley, how the real distinction today is between the college-educated and the not, and how even though 2⁄3 of the country didn’t go to college, their views are not represented in our institutions today. This episode was recorded in December 2022 but is just as relevant today.  🔥 Apply to join over 400 founders and Execs in the Turpentine Network: https://hmplogxqz0y.typeform.com/to/JCkphVqj – SPONSORS: NETSUITE | BEEHIIV | SQUAD NETSUITE 📈 NetSuite has 25 years of providing financial software for all your business needs. More than 36,000 businesses have already upgraded to NetSuite by Oracle, gaining visibility and control over their financials, inventory, HR, eCommerce, and more. If you’re looking for an ERP platform head to NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/zen - NetSuite has extended a one-of-a-kind flexible financing program for a few more weeks. BEEHIIV 🐝 Power your newsletter with Beehiiv, the newsletter platform built for growth. Connect with premium brands, scale your audience, and deliver a beautiful UX that stands out in an inbox. Head to https://Beehiiv.com and use code "MOZ" for 20% off your first three months SQUAD 💥 Head to Squad to access global engineering without the headache and at a fraction of the cost: head to https://choosesquad.com/ and mention “Turpentine” to skip the waitlist. – FOLLOW ON X: @davidsacks @eriktorenberg (Erik) @moz_podcast (Moment of Zen) @TurpentineMedia LINKS: Craft Ventures: https://craftventures.com/ All-In Podcast: https://www.youtube.com/@allin Glue.ai: https://glue.ai/ SaaS Grid : https://www.saasgrid.com/ – FOLLOW ON X: @eriktorenberg (Erik) @DavidSacks (David) @moz_podcast (Moment of Zen) @TurpentineMedia – TIMESTAMPS: (00:00) Intro (02:11) How did tech become less free speech-oriented? (03:35) Why is PayPal so woke? (06:02) Woke Capitalism game (08:52) Corporations and governments collaborating to censor (16:22) Tracing political history in Silicon Valley  (20:54) College educated vs. not is the biggest difference in US Our elite is not democratic (22:54) Sponsor: NetSuite | Beehiiv (29:15) Foreign Policy and Realism (32:28) U.S. Russiaphobia (36:30) Sponsor: Squad (38:05) Big Tech Monopolies and Regulation (41:42) The Future of Silicon Valley and Monopolies (42:32) Regulating Acquisitions and Startup Ecosystems (45:39) Censorship and Section 230 (47:17) The Role of Free Speech in Social Progress (53:52) Institutional Reform and Accountability (54:56) Elon Musk's Influence on Tech and Media (1:06:33) The Future of Political and Economic Accountability (1:19:30) Wrap

Today we are airing Erik's interview with Joe Lonsdale, originally published on Upstream in 2023. Joe Lonsdale is the co-founder of Palantir, managing partner at 8VC, and the founder of The Cicero Institute, a nonpartisan policy organization discusses the root causes of educational inequality and homelessness, and argues for competence over culture wars, data-driven solutions, and market incentives to fix some of the US' most plaguing problems. Grow your newsletter with Beehiiv: head to https://Beehiiv.com and use code "MOZ" for 20% off your first three months. 🔥 Apply to join over 400 founders and Execs in the Turpentine Network: https://hmplogxqz0y.typeform.com/to/JCkphVqj – SPONSORS: NETSUITE | BEEHIIV | SQUAD NETSUITE 📈 NetSuite has 25 years of providing financial software for all your business needs. More than 36,000 businesses have already upgraded to NetSuite by Oracle, gaining visibility and control over their financials, inventory, HR, eCommerce, and more. If you’re looking for an ERP platform head to NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/zen - NetSuite has extended a one-of-a-kind flexible financing program for a few more weeks. BEEHIIV 🐝 Power your newsletter with Beehiiv, the newsletter platform built for growth. Connect with premium brands, scale your audience, and deliver a beautiful UX that stands out in an inbox. Head to https://Beehiiv.com and use code "MOZ" for 20% off your first three months SQUAD 💥 Head to Squad to access global engineering without the headache and at a fraction of the cost: head to https://choosesquad.com/ and mention “Turpentine” to skip the waitlist. – LINKS: Cicero Institute: https://ciceroinstitute.org/ 8VC: https://www.8vc.com/ Palantir: https://www.palantir.com/ Joe Lonsdale's blog: https://blog.joelonsdale.com – FOLLOW ON X: @eriktorenberg (Erik) @JTLonsdale (Joe) @moz_podcast (Moment of Zen) @TurpentineMedia – TIMESTAMPS: (00:00) Intro (00:47) Philanthropy and Impact: Joe's Approach to Social Change (01:18) Nonpartisan Solutions for Broken Systems (02:55) Cicero Institute's Mission and Impact Across States (07:42) Addressing Education Inequality and Accountability (12:32) Reforming Prisons and Probation with Data and Accountability (16:12) Tackling Homelessness with Common Sense and Accountability (18:53) Sponsor: Netsuite | Beehiiv (21:16) Introducing Market Incentives, Market Competition, and Market Accountability (25:06) Sponsor: Squad (26:34) Innovative Approaches to Healthcare (31:12) Rethinking Healthcare and Leadership (31:32) Innovating Within vs. Outside the System (32:13) The Challenge of Reforming Institutions (33:41) Navigating the Complexities of Defense and Innovation (37:36) The Power of State-Level Impact and Education Reform (39:29) Silicon Valley's Influence and Responsibility (40:32) Cultural Shifts and the Role of New Institutions (55:27) The Future of American Competence and Optimism (57:42) Wrap

In this episode, Carlos Pereira, partner at BITKRAFT Ventures, joins Erik, Antonio and Dan as they delve into the significant transformations within gaming, betting, and combat sports, facilitated by cryptocurrency and blockchain technology, emphasizing the groundbreaking integration of cryptocurrency through Web3 gaming. 🔥 Apply to join over 400 founders and Execs in the Turpentine Network: https://hmplogxqz0y.typeform.com/to/JCkphVqj – SPONSORS: NETSUITE | BEEHIIV | SQUAD NETSUITE 📈 NetSuite has 25 years of providing financial software for all your business needs. More than 36,000 businesses have already upgraded to NetSuite by Oracle, gaining visibility and control over their financials, inventory, HR, eCommerce, and more. If you’re looking for an ERP platform head to NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/zen - NetSuite has extended a one-of-a-kind flexible financing program for a few more weeks. BEEHIIV Head to Beehiiv, the newsletter platform built for growth, to power your own. Connect with premium brands, scale your audience, and deliver a beautiful UX that stands out in an inbox. 🐝 https://Beehiiv.com and use code "MOZ" for 20% off your first three months SQUAD 💥 Head to Squad to access global engineering without the headache and at a fraction of the cost: head to https://choosesquad.com/ and mention “Turpentine” to skip the waitlist. - LINKS: Bitkraft VC: https://www.bitkraft.vc/ – FOLLOW ON X: @eriktorenberg (Erik) @cegapereira (Carlos) @dwr (Dan) @antoniogm (Antonio) @moz_podcast (Moment of Zen) @TurpentineMedia – TIMESTAMPS: (00:00) Opening Banter (01:28) Diving Into Crypto and Gaming Discussions (02:11) The Evolution and Challenges of Web3 Gaming (04:44) Analyzing the Crypto Gaming Landscape (13:48) The Future of Gaming: Web3 and Beyond (17:23) Sponsor: Netsuite | Beehiiv (18:29) Deep Dive into Web3 Gaming and Digital Economies (32:38) Exploring User-Generated Content and Game Modding (34:14) Sponsor: Squad (42:19) Investment Perspectives on Gaming and Infrastructure (45:47) The Fascinating World of Gaming Business (49:49) The Evolution of Gaming: From PVE to PVP (51:40) The Intriguing Dynamics of Safe Zones in Games (53:29) The Rise of Financialized Gaming Experiences (1:06:31) Karate Combat: A New Era of Crypto-Infused Sports (1:17:15) The Future of Media and Crypto's Role (1:23:13) Wrap

In this episode of Moment of Zen, Erik is joined by Jonathan Haidt, social psychologist at New York University’s Stern School of Business and author of the newly released book "The Anxious Generation." They have a comprehensive discussion that touches on the polarization and dysfunction in American politics, the impact of social media on democracy, and the importance of reclaiming a play-based childhood for the current generation - SPONSORS: NETSUITE | BEEHIIV NETSUITE 📈 NetSuite has 25 years of providing financial software for all your business needs. More than 36,000 businesses have already upgraded to NetSuite by Oracle, gaining visibility and control over their financials, inventory, HR, eCommerce, and more. If you’re looking for an ERP platform head to NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/zen - NetSuite has extended a one-of-a-kind flexible financing program for a few more weeks. BEEHIIV Head to Beehiiv, the newsletter platform built for growth, to power your own. Connect with premium brands, scale your audience, and deliver a beautiful UX that stands out in an inbox. 🐝 https://Beehiiv.com and use code "MOZ" for 20% off your first three months - LINKS: Website: https://jonathanhaidt.com/ Jon's Substack: https://www.afterbabel.com/p/welcome-to-the-after-babel-substack The Anxious Generation: https://www.anxiousgeneration.com/ The Anxious Generation Book: https://www.anxiousgeneration.com/book - FOLLOW ON X: @eriktorenberg (Erik) @JonHaidt (Jon) @moz_podcast (Moment of Zen) @TurpentineMedia - TIMESTAMPS: (00:00) Intro (00:13) Evolution of Jonathan's Work: From Moral Psychology to 'The Anxious Generation' (01:14) The Impact of Social Media on Teen Mental Health (02:50) Exploring the Tragedy of the Modern Childhood (07:29) Addressing the Criticism and Pushback (12:08) The Unprecedented Effects of Social Media on Society (19:37) Adapting to Technological Changes and the Future of Childhood (20:20) The Dire State of Democracy in the Digital Age (27:01) How Technology Affects Liberals and Conservatives Differently (28:20) Unveiling the Research: The Rise of Anxiety and Depression (28:48) Breaking Down the Data: Gender, Politics, and Mental Health (30:48) The Protective Power of Religion and Community (31:32) Parenting Styles and Moral Values (32:07) Challenges for Progressive Organizations and the Democratic Party (32:42) Recommendations for a Healthier Childhood in the Digital Age (33:50) Addressing the Broader Issues Beyond Smartphones (34:35) The Role of Schools in Children's Mental Health (36:33) A Call for Intentional Community Building (37:34) Navigating the Public Health Crisis with Apolitical Solutions (40:41) Engaging with the Tech Industry: Critiques and Clarifications (41:01) The Debate on Content Moderation and the Need for Structural Changes (56:27) Wrap

Today we're sharing a recent interview Erik gave to Alex LaBossiere that covers lots of themes we discuss on Moment of Zen - including Erik's views on tech vs. the media, hypocrisy of the elites, risk orientation, and the thesis behind Turpentine. Grow your newsletter with Beehiiv, head to https://Beehiiv.com and use code "MOZ" for 20% off your first three months -- SPONSORS: NETSUITE | BEEHIIV | SQUAD NETSUITE 📈 NetSuite has 25 years of providing financial software for all your business needs. More than 36,000 businesses have already upgraded to NetSuite by Oracle, gaining visibility and control over their financials, inventory, HR, eCommerce, and more. If you’re looking for an ERP platform head to NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/zen - NetSuite has extended a one-of-a-kind flexible financing program for a few more weeks. BEEHIIV Head to Beehiiv, the newsletter platform built for growth, to power your own. Connect with premium brands, scale your audience, and deliver a beautiful UX that stands out in an inbox. 🐝 https://Beehiiv.com and use code "MOZ" for 20% off your first three months SQUAD 💥 Head to Squad to access global engineering without the headache and at a fraction of the cost: head to https://choosesquad.com/ and mention “Turpentine” to skip the waitlist. - LINKS: Alex Labossiere podcast: Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@labossiere Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7lf0G6SBTArFlJYuHlPPoy?si=459fb368b525468d&nd=1&dlsi=eb2b481981f44211 Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/labossiere-podcast/id1566013149 - FOLLOW ON X: @eriktorenberg (Erik) @adlabossiere (Alex) @moz_podcast (Moment of Zen) @TurpentineMedia - TIMESTAMPS: (00:00) Intro (05:38) On Investing vs Operating (08:05) Trust and Direct Distribution (11:55) Legacy Media and the Techlash (17:54) Sponsor: Netsuite | Beehiiv (20:32) What is Turpentine (22:23) Lessons From 1000 Interviews (23:51) The Printing Press, Barbells, and the Future of Media (28:13) Pre-Internet Journalism and Survival of the Fittest Ideas (31:35) Creator Monetization and Price Discrimination (37:45) Sponsor: Squad (39:12) Does Media Have a Direction? (46:02) Tailwinds and Turpentine at Scale (53:55) Creating More Startups and Understanding Risk (58:42) Is Entrepreneurship Founder or Market Limited? (1:03:22) What Do Most People Get Wrong About Community Building? (1:05:51) Probabilistic vs Deterministic Mindsets (1:08:48) On Faith over Logic (1:12:22) Modernity and God Shaped Holes (1:15:02) The Hypocrisy of Elites (1:17:47) Asking Erik Questions He Asks People (1:19:05) What Should More People be Thinking About? (1:22:37) Wrap

Today’s episode is a debate from Bankless on the opposing viewpoints of Effective Accelerationism (E/ACC) and Effective Altruism (EA). Hosted by Ryan Sean Adams and David Hoffman and featuring Haseeb Qureshi and our own Erik Torenberg, the podcast discusses whether AI progression should be cautiously regulated or aggressively pursued with minimal oversight. – SPONSORS: NETSUITE | BEEHIIV | SQUAD NETSUITE 📈 NetSuite has 25 years of providing financial software for all your business needs. More than 36,000 businesses have already upgraded to NetSuite by Oracle, gaining visibility and control over their financials, inventory, HR, eCommerce, and more. If you’re looking for an ERP platform head to NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/zen - NetSuite has extended a one-of-a-kind flexible financing program for a few more weeks. BEEHIIV Head to Beehiiv, the newsletter platform built for growth, to power your own. Connect with premium brands, scale your audience, and deliver a beautiful UX that stands out in an inbox. 🐝 https://Beehiiv.com and use code "MOZ" for 20% off your first three months SQUAD 💥 Head to Squad to access global engineering without the headache and at a fraction of the cost: head to https://choosesquad.com/ and mention “Turpentine” to skip the waitlist. - Recommended Podcast: Company Breakdowns Each episode of Company Breakdowns dives into S-1s and series B-and-beyond companies, interviewing founders and investors to break down the companies. First episode is on Rubrik - which just IPO'd. Coming up this season: Databricks, Reddit + more, Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0epyYBAxLeF0PsNagdDJAJ Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/company-breakdowns/id1743119197 – LINKS: Check out: http://podcast.banklesshq.com/ – FOLLOW ON X: @eriktorenberg (Erik) @hosseeb (Haseeb) @RyanSAdamsb (Ryan) @TrustlessState @BanklessHQ @moz_podcast (Moment of Zen) @TurpentineMedia -- TIMESTAMPS: (00:00) Preview (00:43) Navigating the Tech Acceleration vs. Deceleration Debate (06:31) Exploring Effective Altruism (EA) and Its Impact on AI and Tech (08:53) The EA Perspective: Balancing AI Risk with Technological Progress (17:52) Sponsor: Netsuite | Beehiiv (20:15) Effective altruists debate AI's future impact (30:04) Navigating the Culture War: Accelerationism vs. Decelerationism (33:48) Sponsor: Squad (35:50) EA's Influence and the Acceleration Debate (37:28 )AI Regulation and the Influence of Congress (38:12) Crypto Tribes and the Impact of Social Media (39:03) The Reality of Crypto Twitter vs. Actual Influence (39:51) Exploring Silicon Valley's Perspective on AI and Regulation (41:44) The OpenAI Coup: Unpacking the Real Story (44:03) AI Safety vs Self-Regulation (46:13) Silicon Valley in AI Development and Regulation (59:47) The Complexities of AI Ethics and the Call for More Debate (1:09:15) Exploring the EA Worldview and Its Misconceptions (1:09:44) A Rational Approach to AI and Existential Risks (1:12:04) Branding and Perception Challenges of EA (1:12:42) EA's Beta Energy vs. Alpha Aggression (1:13:15) Balanced Tech Ecosystem: EA and E/ACC Synergy (1:18:26) Navigating the Political Landscape of AI and Technology (1:31:31) The Importance of a Multi-faceted Approach to AI Regulation (1:40:06) AI Safety, Ethics, and Accelerationism (1:42:22) Wrap

In this episode, Mike Rainbow (co-founder of Rainbow wallet) joins Erik, Dan, and Antonio as they dive into crypto's future. The conversation was prompted by the thesis that innovative social protocols like Farcaster are co-evolving with crypto wallets as onramps or a portal to web3. If you're looking for an ERP platform, check out NetSuite: https://netsuite.com/zen — NetSuite has extended a one-of-a-kind flexible financing program for a few more weeks. – SPONSORS: BEEHIIV | NETSUITE| HARMONIC | SQUAD Head to Beehiiv, the newsletter platform built for growth, to power your own. Connect with premium brands, scale your audience, and deliver a beautiful UX that stands out in an inbox. 🐝 to https://Beehiiv.com and use code “MOZ” for 20% off your first three months 📈 NetSuite has 25 years of providing financial software for all your business needs. More than 36,000 businesses have already upgraded to NetSuite by Oracle, gaining visibility and control over their financials, inventory, HR, eCommerce, and more. If you’re looking for an ERP platform head to NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/zen - NetSuite has extended a one-of-a-kind flexible financing program for a few more weeks. 🧲 Learn why Craft, Bedrock, NEA, and 100s more trust Harmonic’s data to source deals. Harmonic is the most complete startup database, finding new companies as soon as they incorporate and tracking them through IPO. Head to https://bit.ly/harmonicturpentine and make sure to mention Turpentine VC during your demo. 💥 Head to Squad to access global engineering without the headache and at a fraction of the cost: head to https://choosesquad.com/ and mention “Turpentine” to skip the waitlist. – Recommended Podcast: Company Breakdowns Each episode of Company Breakdowns dives into S-1s and series B-and-beyond companies, interviewing founders and investors to break down the companies. First episode is on Rubrik - which just IPO'd. Coming up this season: Databricks, Reddit + more, Spotify Apple – FOLLOW ON X: @eriktorenberg (Erik) @mikedemarais (Mike) @dwr (Dan) @antoniogm (Antonio) @moz_podcast (Moment of Zen) @TurpentineMedia – LINKS: Check out Rainbow: https://rainbow.me/en/ – TIMESTAMPS: (00:00) Exploring Crypto's Impact on Financial Intermediaries (01:36) Introducing Mike Rainbow: A Unique Crypto Personality (02:09) Massachusetts Memories and Dunkin' Donuts Dominance (02:46) East Coast Social Dynamics and Crypto Culture (04:46) The Evolution of Wallets and Social Networks in Crypto (06:26) Debating the Convergence of Crypto Products (15:00) Sponsors: Netsuite | Harmonic (17:18) Building Integrated Crypto Platforms Continued (22:15) The Future of Messaging and Composability in Crypto (27:30) Exploring Group Chat Dynamics and App Adoption (28:13) The Evolution of Transaction Frames in Crypto (30:37) Sponsor: Squad (32:02) Innovations and Challenges in Transaction Frames (36:29) Deep Dive into Frame Technology and Developer Challenges (41:39) The Future of Frames and Web3 Standards (46:51) Demographic Shifts and Future Directions for Farcaster (53:49) Wrap