13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast

Benny Blanco has worked behind the scenes on some of the biggest songs in music, but in this episode, the hitmaker steps into the spotlight to get personal. Sitting down with host Nick Major, Benny opens up about his relationship with Selena Gomez, from the surprising moment she first said "I love you" to the nerves that hit him right before he proposed. He also discusses the making of their new album I Said I Love You First, sharing how the creative process naturally unfolded in their home rather than a traditional studio. But this episode isn’t just about music. Benny reveals why he refuses to fly, sharing the story of a terrifying flight that changed his life and how he now takes cross-country road trips and week-long cruises instead. Speaking of cruises, he reminisces about the time he and Ed Sheeran wrote Divide on a boat—while sharing studio space with an elderly woman who unknowingly interrupted the creation of Castle on the Hill and Happier. The conversation also takes a turn into life beyond music. Benny talks about his dream of one day becoming a dad, his love for spontaneous songwriting, and why relationships built on fun and support make all the difference. He also shares thoughts on growing up in Virginia, his hilarious take on people who still leave their phone volume on, and why he’s perfectly fine never going on tour. From unexpected career moments to deep reflections on love, fears, and the joys of taking the long way around, this episode gives you a whole new perspective on one of music’s most influential producers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Introducing Vanessa Van Edwards: Stop Overthinking Every Social Interaction! (Use THESE Cues to Be Liked, Respected, and Build Confidence in Every Conversation) from On Purpose with Jay Shetty.Follow the show: On Purpose with Jay ShettyWhat usually holds you back from starting a conversation? Can you remember a time you avoided someone out of fear of saying the wrong thing? Jay sits down with behavioral researcher and bestselling author Vanessa Van Edwards for a powerful conversation that blends science, honesty, and so many surprising moments. Vanessa, who refers to herself as a “recovering awkward person,” shares how her biggest social struggles became the driving force behind her mission to crack the code on human connection. Together, Jay and Vanessa dive into the fascinating world of charisma, exploring the 97 cues, from eye contact to tone of voice, that quietly shape how we’re seen and understood. Vanessa breaks down why so many of us feel overlooked or underestimated—and introduces “signal amplification bias,” a concept that explains why the signals you think you’re sending might not be landing the way you expect. Vanessa shows us how confidence isn’t always something you’re born with but something you can build, with intention and awareness. The conversation goes even deeper as they unpack the tricky balance between warmth and competence, especially for women in the workplace, and how vulnerability isn’t a weakness, but often your greatest strength. They explore how to create those magic “me too” moments that form instant connections, spot the hidden red flags in communication, and let go of the need to be liked by everyone in order to be truly seen by the right people. In this interview, you'll learn: How to Make a Great First Impression Without Saying a Word How to Break the Ice with a Simple “Hey” How to Balance Warmth and Competence in Any Conversation How to Create Connection Using “Me Too” Moments How to Exit a Conversation Gracefully (Without Offending Anyone) How to Spot a Liar Using Body Language and Micro-Expressions How to Ask Better Questions That Spark Real Conversations How to Recognize the Difference Between Charisma and Manipulation Whether you struggle with social anxiety, want to level up your leadership presence, or are just tired of surface-level small talk, this episode is packed with practical tools and uplifting wisdom to help you connect with more authenticity and power. With Love and Gratitude, Jay Shetty Join over 750,000 people to receive my most transformative wisdom directly in your inbox every single week with my free newsletter. Subscribe here.   Join Jay for his first ever, On Purpose Live Tour! Tickets are on sale now. Hope to see you there!   What We Discuss: 00:00 Intro 00:51 From Awkward to Empowered: Overcoming Social Anxiety 02:43 How Do You Really Want People to See You? 06:44 Why Aren’t Your First Impressions Landing? 10:01 Why They’re Not Getting Your Signals (And What to Do About It) 13:33 Want to Be More Attractive? Try Being More Available 15:40 One Simple “Hey” That Can Spark a New Connection 19:16 Your Vibe Teaches People How to Treat You 22:06 Speak with Power: Unlock Your Full Vocal Power 23:47 3 Conversation Starters That Actually Work 29:49 Making Friends Doesn’t Have to Be Hard 31:17 Why Compliments Alone Don’t Build Connection 33:30 Break the Ice Without Sounding Like Everyone Else 38:36 Stop Trying to Be Interesting, Do This Instead 40:48 The Art of a Smooth and Respectful Exit 44:32 Use These Nonverbal Cues to Steer the Conversation 47:41 Spot Inauthentic Behavior Before It Costs You 54:28 Why People-Pleasing Feels Safer But Actually Holds You Back 57:48 How to Tell If Someone’s Lying (Without Saying a Word) 01:00:04 When Narcissists Feel Like the Most Charismatic People 01:03:46 Want to Really Get to Know Someone? Take a Road Trip 01:04:45 How Dopamine Makes You More Memorable 01:08:23 Every Answer Can Be a Gateway to Connection 01:10:51 How Asking Better Questions Inspires Growth 01:13:10 Discover Your Social Battery: Introvert, Extrovert, or Ambivert? 01:15:10 You Might Be an Ambivert and That’s a Superpower 01:19:07 The Two Ways Friendships Evolve Over Time 01:22:30 Choose Friends Who Inspire Awe 01:25:20 The Double Standard Faced by Highly Competent Women 01:33:09 Before You Make That Connection, Ask Yourself This  01:34:34 Life’s Too Short for Shallow Connections, Find Your People 01:36:29 Vanessa on Final Five Episode Resources: Vanessa Van Edwards | Website Vanessa Van Edwards | Instagram Vanessa Van Edwards | X Vanessa Van Edwards | YouTube Vanessa Van Edwards | TikTok Vanessa Van Edwards | Facebook Vanessa Van Edwards | LinkedInSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.DISCLAIMER: Please note, this is an independent podcast episode not affiliated with, endorsed by, or produced in conjunction with the host podcast feed or any of its media entities. 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We've spent the last 31 weeks stressed on how we could possibly rank our favorite songs from THE TORTURED POETS DEPARTMENT... So to make things a little easier, we split up our rankings into two parts! In this episode, Nick, Ana, Amy, Lacey, and Intern Saahir rank their top 5 songs from the Standard Edition of the album (all the songs from "Fortnight" to "Clara Bow") Have your favorites from the album changed from a year ago?  As mentioned in this episode, this week you are eligible to win a Taylor Swift autographed guitar by donating to the Kidd's Kids Car Contest! Kidd's Kids is a charity that raises money all year long to take kids with life-altering conditions, and their families, to Disney World for the trip of a lifetime. Learn more about the charity, the Car Contest fundraiser, and how you can win the Taylor Swift autographed guitar here: https://secure.givelively.org/donate/kraddick-foundation-dba-kidd-s-kids/kidd-s-kids-car-contest-2025-presented-by-ancira-auto-group  THIS PODCAST IS SPONSORED BY QUINCE Treat your closet to a little summer glow-up with Quince. 👉 ⁠Go to Quince.com/taylorswiftfan⁠ for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns. THIS PODCAST IS SPONSORED BY BETTER HELP: 👉 Visit BetterHelp.com/TAYLORSWIFTFAN to get 10% off your first month of professional online therapy. CONTACT THE PODCAST! Email – the13podcast@gmail.com IG: https://www.instagram.com/the13podcast TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@the13podcast FOLLOW US! Ana - https://www.instagram.com/anaszabo13 Lacey – https://www.instagram.com/laceygee13 Amy – https://www.instagram.com/amysnichols Nick – https://www.instagram.com/nickadamsonair Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Now and then we reread the manuscript of the entire TORTURED POETS DEPARTMENT era... it's wild to think we're at the final song of the album, but there's so much to discuss! Do you think this song is connected to the "All Too Well (Short Film)" or her entire career and catalog? Nick, Ana, Amy, and Lacey discuss this incredibly special closing track, and look back on this era. PLUS, meet the newest addition of The 13 Podcast team, our summer intern Saahir!!  THIS EPISODE IS SPONSORED BY RUFF GREENS Go to http://www.ruffgreens.com and use promo code taylorswiftfan There are lots of ways to reach us, including our exclusive Lobster Lounge! Join in on the discussion there at https://station.page/13 , or let us know on the socials! CONTACT THE PODCAST! Voicemail Number- (689) 214-1313 Email- the13podcast@gmail.com IG- https://www.instagram.com/the13podcast TikTok- https://www.tiktok.com/@the13podcast Twitter- https://twitter.com/the13TSpodcast YouTube- https://www.youtube.com/@13ATaylorSwiftFanPodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

We never thought we'd get here, but we're at the penultimate track of THE TORTURED POETS DEPARTMENT, "Robin"... is this a song about preserving childhood innocence, or does it go even further than that?  Ana, Nick, Lacey, and Amy discuss the inspiration behind the song, the connections to the entire album, and a theory as to why it was placed where it is on the tracklist.  Plus, a few voicemails and emails from listeners!  There are lots of ways to reach us, including our exclusive Lobster Lounge! Join in on the discussion there at https://station.page/13 , or let us know on the socials! CONTACT THE PODCAST! Voicemail Number- (689) 214-1313 Email- the13podcast@gmail.com IG- https://www.instagram.com/the13podcast TikTok- https://www.tiktok.com/@the13podcast Twitter- https://twitter.com/the13TSpodcast YouTube- https://www.youtube.com/@13ATaylorSwiftFanPodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Is "The Bolter" another classic case of Taylor Swift adapting a story to her own life? The song is rumored to be inspired by a "scandalous" English aristocrat from the early 1900s, which wouldn't be the first time that Taylor takes a story and makes it her own!  Lacey, Amy, Ana, and Nick discuss the lyrics, connections, references, history, theories, and more!  This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try at betterhelp.com/TAYLORSWIFTFAN and get on your way to being your best self. There are lots of ways to reach us, including our exclusive Lobster Lounge! Join in on the discussion there at https://station.page/13 , or let us know on the socials! CONTACT THE PODCAST! Voicemail Number- (689) 214-1313 Email- the13podcast@gmail.com IG- https://www.instagram.com/the13podcast TikTok- https://www.tiktok.com/@the13podcast Twitter- https://twitter.com/the13TSpodcast YouTube- https://www.youtube.com/@13ATaylorSwiftFanPodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Betrayal, closure, maturity... all things that Taylor Swift explores in the song "Peter", a fan-favorite from THE TORTURED POETS DEPARTMENT.  "Peter" is not only a take on the classic Peter Pan, but also a twist of a story we've heard in Taylor Swift's discography before... Nick, Ana, Amy, and Lacey explore the lyrics, symbolism, call-backs, fairy tales, and plot-twists found in this poetic track!  There are lots of ways to reach us, including our exclusive Lobster Lounge! Join in on the discussion there at https://station.page/13 , or let us know on the socials! CONTACT THE PODCAST! Voicemail Number- (689) 214-1313 Email- the13podcast@gmail.com IG- https://www.instagram.com/the13podcast TikTok- https://www.tiktok.com/@the13podcast Twitter- https://twitter.com/the13TSpodcast YouTube- https://www.youtube.com/@13ATaylorSwiftFanPodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Did you know that Taylor Swift was inspired by Greek mythology when she wrote “Cassandra”? The lyricist of our generation found a way to take a story and adapt it in a way that not only applies to her, but to all women.  Ana, Lacey, Amy, and Nick discuss the lyrics to “mad woman”’s sister song, and how it connects to other parts of Taylor’s discography, life, and also moments in recent societal culture.  Plus, a few voicemails from listeners!  This episode is sponsored by Happy Mammoth! Check out Happy Mammoth and use my code TAYLORSWIFTFAN for a great deal: https://happymammoth.com This episode is sponsored by Quince! For your next trip, treat yourself to the luxe upgrades you deserve from Quince. Go to Quince.com/taylorswiftfan for 365-day returns, plus free shipping on your order This episode is sponsored by Ruff Greens Fetch a FREE Jumpstart Trial Bag for your Dog today. Go to RuffGreens.com. Just use promo code TAYLORSWIFTFAN. This episode is sponsored by StoryWorth! Right now, save $10 on your first purchase when you go to StoryWorth.com/taylorswiftfan! That’s STORYWORTH.com/taylorswiftfan to save $10 on your first. There are lots of ways to reach us, including our exclusive Lobster Lounge! Join in on the discussion there at https://station.page/13 , or let us know on the socials! CONTACT THE PODCAST! Voicemail Number- (689) 214-1313 Email- the13podcast@gmail.com IG- https://www.instagram.com/the13podcast TikTok- https://www.tiktok.com/@the13podcast Twitter- https://twitter.com/the13TSpodcast YouTube- https://www.youtube.com/@13ATaylorSwiftFanPodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

We never thought we'd see the day where we break down Taylor Swift's 9th studio album, "evermore", but we finally made it!! Take a listen as Nick, Ana, Amy, and Lacey break down their initial rankings on "evermore" before deep diving into the album as a whole! This episode is sponsored by Happy Mammoth! Check out Happy Mammoth and use my code TAYLORSWIFTFAN for a great deal: https://happymammoth.com This episode is sponsored by Quince! For your next trip, treat yourself to the luxe upgrades you deserve from Quince. Go to Quince.com/taylorswiftfan for 365-day returns, plus free shipping on your order This episode is sponsored by Ruff Greens Fetch a FREE Jumpstart Trial Bag for your Dog today. Go to RuffGreens.com. Just use promo code TAYLORSWIFTFAN. This episode is sponsored by StoryWorth! Right now, save $10 on your first purchase when you go to StoryWorth.com/taylorswiftfan! That’s STORYWORTH.com/taylorswiftfan to save $10 on your first. CONTACT THE PODCAST! Voicemail Number- (689) 214-1313 Email- the13podcast@gmail.com IG- https://www.instagram.com/the13podcast TikTok- https://www.tiktok.com/@the13podcast Twitter- https://twitter.com/the13TSpodcast YouTube- https://www.youtube.com/@13ATaylorSwiftFanPodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Taylor Swift was honored with a lot of awards at the iHeartRadio Music Awards, including Tour of the Century!! Were you clowning for Taylor to show up and make a big announcement? Did you catch the subtle easter eggs in her acceptance video? Nick, Ana, Amy, and Lacey break down everything that happened, the clues, the easter eggs, and the potential for the next date to clown for!  CONTACT THE PODCAST! Voicemail Number- (689) 214-1313 Email- the13podcast@gmail.com IG- https://www.instagram.com/the13podcast TikTok- https://www.tiktok.com/@the13podcast Twitter- https://twitter.com/the13TSpodcast YouTube- https://www.youtube.com/@13ATaylorSwiftFanPodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Taylor Swift thinks that she is doomed to a life of solitude because she chose to share her craft and talents with the world, but is there a way that she can change that? She did figure it out and she gave this song a happy conclusion during an acoustic mashup at the Eras Tour!  Ana, Lacey, Amy and Nick discuss all of the connections and theories surrounding this vulnerable song that is giving major Track 5 vibes.  THIS PODCAST IS SPONSORED BY BETTERHELP. Give online therapy a try at betterhelp.com/TAYLORSWIFTFAN and get on your way to being your best self. CONTACT THE PODCAST! Voicemail Number- (689) 214-1313 Email- the13podcast@gmail.com IG- https://www.instagram.com/the13podcast TikTok- https://www.tiktok.com/@the13podcast Twitter- https://twitter.com/the13TSpodcast YouTube- https://www.youtube.com/@13ATaylorSwiftFanPodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In "I Look In People's Windows", Taylor Swift continues the metaphorical exploration of "what if" that we've seen all throughout THE TORTURED POETS DEPARTMENT. A song that explores the aftermath of a lost connection, Taylor uses the idea of looking in from the outside to show how she's deep in her own thoughts of what could've been. Lacey, Ana, Nick, and Amy break down the lyrics of the song, how it connects to others across her discography, the inspiration from Emily Dickinson, and so much more! Where does this song fall in your TTPD rankings? And did you know this song could be the answer to a trivia question? Let's discuss! THIS PODCAST IS SPONSORED BY VIIA! Try VIIA Hemp! https://viia.co/TSFPOD use code TSFPOD THIS PODCAST IS SPONSORED BY RUFF GREENS! To get YOUR FREE Jumpstart Trial Bag, go to http:/ruffgreens.com and use Promo code TAYLORSWIFTFAN. THIS PODCAST IS SPONSORED BY HELLO FRESH! Get up to 10 FREE meals and a free high-protein item for life at HelloFresh.com/taylorswiftfan10fm THIS PODCAST IS SPONSORED BY QUINCE! Go to https://www.quince.com/taylorswiftfan for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns There are lots of ways to reach us, including our exclusive Lobster Lounge! Join in on the discussion there at https://station.page/13 , or let us know on the socials! CONTACT THE PODCAST! Voicemail Number- (689) 214-1313 Email- the13podcast@gmail.com IG- https://www.instagram.com/the13podcast TikTok- https://www.tiktok.com/@the13podcast Twitter- https://twitter.com/the13TSpodcast YouTube- https://www.youtube.com/@13ATaylorSwiftFanPodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

When Taylor Swift released THE TORTURED POETS DEPARTMENT, Nick, Ana, Amy, and Lacey were hosting a LIVE listening party to react to the album all together. Their surprise to seeing one of their very own names in a title was crazy, but then to actually hear the lyrics... it quickly became a forever-iconic moment in 13 podcast history!! Relive it all in this special episode! PLUS, a breakdown of the lyrics and the 15-year long history that lead to Taylor writing this song in the first place. And is the song a jab, or is it actually a red-herring? And how does this song apply to more songs across Taylor's discography?  And speaking of thank you, a huge thank you to PopFlex and Blogilates for sending us a package full of goodies!  THIS PODCAST IS SPONSORED BY VIIA! Try VIIA Hemp! https://viia.co/TSFPOD use code TSFPOD THIS PODCAST IS SPONSORED BY RUFF GREENS! To get YOUR FREE Jumpstart Trial Bag, go to http:/ruffgreens.com and use Promo code TAYLORSWIFTFAN. THIS PODCAST IS SPONSORED BY HELLO FRESH! Get up to 10 FREE meals and a free high-protein item for life at HelloFresh.com/taylorswiftfan10fm THIS PODCAST IS SPONSORED BY QUINCE! Go to https://www.quince.com/taylorswiftfan for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns here are lots of ways to reach us, including our exclusive Lobster Lounge! Join in on the discussion there at https://station.page/13 , or let us know on the socials! CONTACT THE PODCAST! Voicemail Number- (689) 214-1313 Email- the13podcast@gmail.com IG- https://www.instagram.com/the13podcast TikTok- https://www.tiktok.com/@the13podcast Twitter- https://twitter.com/the13TSpodcast YouTube- https://www.youtube.com/@13ATaylorSwiftFanPodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Though it's deep in THE TORTURED POETS DEPARTMENT tracklist, one of the hosts claims this song to be their favorite on the album!  Why did this song recently spike in streams, and what is it about this tortured poetry that people are finding relatable? Escape to the secret gardens of the podcast and take a listen to our break down of the lyrics, references, and more!  THIS PODCAST IS SPONSORED BY BETTER HELP! Go to https://www.betterhelp.com/TAYLORSWIFTFAN today to get 10% off your first month THIS PODCAST IS SPONSORED BY RUFF GREENS! To get YOUR FREE Jumpstart Trial Bag, go to http:/ruffgreens.com and use Promo code :TAYLORSWIFTFAN. THIS PODCAST IS SPONSORED BY HELLO FRESH! Get up to 10 FREE meals and a free high-protein item for life at http://www.hellofresh.com/hellofreshpodcast THIS PODCAST IS SPONSORED BY QUINCE! Go to https://www.quince.com/taylorswiftfan for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns THIS PODCAST IS SPONSORED BY VIIA! Try VIIA Hemp! https://viia.co/TSFPOD use code TSFPOD THIS PODCAST IS SPONSORED BY CHIME! Get started today at https://www.chime.com/TAYLORSWIFTFAN There are lots of ways to reach us, including our exclusive Lobster Lounge! Join in on the discussion there at https://station.page/13 , or let us know on the socials! CONTACT THE PODCAST! Voicemail Number- (689) 214-1313 Email- the13podcast@gmail.com IG- https://www.instagram.com/the13podcast TikTok- https://www.tiktok.com/@the13podcast Twitter- https://twitter.com/the13TSpodcast YouTube- https://www.youtube.com/@13ATaylorSwiftFanPodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In today's special SwifTEA episode, we are joined by Karla, the founder and president of Taylgate Takeovers! Taylgate Takeovers are the unofficial Eras Tour reunion weekends, the 1-stop shop Swiftie festival coming to cities across the US!  Hear all about what to expect at the Eras Tour reunion, from karaoke to fashion shows to a live performance from Lover: A Taylor Swift Tribute! Plus, hear about Karla's inspiration behind the events and how she pulled together a team of Swiftie professionals to help her bring the joy of the Eras Tour back to Swifties!  Learn more about Taylgate Takeovers and get your tickets at taylgatetakeovers.com THIS PODCAST IS SPONSORED BY RUFF GREENS! To get YOUR FREE Jumpstart Trial Bag, go to http:/ruffgreens.com and use Promo code :TAYLORSWIFTFAN. THIS PODCAST IS SPONSORED BY HELLO FRESH! Get up to 10 FREE meals and a free high-protein item for life at HelloFresh.com/taylorswiftfan10fm THIS PODCAST IS SPONSORED BY QUINCE! Go to https://www.quince.com/taylorswiftfan for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns THIS PODCAST IS SPONSORED BY VIIA! Try VIIA Hemp! https://viia.co/TSFPOD use code TSFPOD THIS PODCAST IS SPONSORED BY CHIME! Get started today at https://www.chime.com/TAYLORSWIFTFAN There are lots of ways to reach us, including our exclusive Lobster Lounge! Join in on the discussion there at https://station.page/13 , or let us know on the socials! CONTACT THE PODCAST! Voicemail Number- (689) 214-1313 Email- the13podcast@gmail.com IG- https://www.instagram.com/the13podcast TikTok- https://www.tiktok.com/@the13podcast Twitter- https://twitter.com/the13TSpodcast YouTube- https://www.youtube.com/@13ATaylorSwiftFanPodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Taylor has been writing about a young, fun, kick-your-feet-and-giggle, type of love since she was a teenager, and now she's experiencing that kind of love in "So High School" Ana, Nick, Amy, and Lacey talk all about the song inspired by classic 90s rom-coms, the playful teenage references, a certain football player's inspiration, how she incorporated the song into the Eras Tour, and more!!  THIS PODCAST IS SPONSORED BY RUFF GREENS! To get YOUR FREE Jumpstart Trial Bag, go to http:/ruffgreens.com and use Promo code :TAYLORSWIFTFAN. THIS PODCAST IS SPONSORED BY HELLO FRESH! Get up to 10 FREE meals and a free high-protein item for life at HelloFresh.com/taylorswiftfan10fm THIS PODCAST IS SPONSORED BY QUINCE! Go to https://www.quince.com/taylorswiftfan for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns THIS PODCAST IS SPONSORED BY VIIA! Try VIIA Hemp! https://viia.co/TSFPOD use code TSFPOD THIS PODCAST IS SPONSORED BY CHIME! Get started today at https://www.chime.com/TAYLORSWIFTFAN There are lots of ways to reach us, including our exclusive Lobster Lounge! Join in on the discussion there at https://station.page/13 , or let us know on the socials! CONTACT THE PODCAST! Voicemail Number- (689) 214-1313 Email- the13podcast@gmail.com IG- https://www.instagram.com/the13podcast TikTok- https://www.tiktok.com/@the13podcast Twitter- https://twitter.com/the13TSpodcast YouTube- https://www.youtube.com/@13ATaylorSwiftFanPodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

To all our incredible listeners... you're my, my, my... loverrrrrrrrrrr.... Happy Valentine's Day from us to you! We are giving away a "Lover: Live from Paris" heart-shaped vinyl to a lucky listener! Find out how to enter to win in this special, loving, episode!  There are lots of ways to reach us, including our exclusive Lobster Lounge! Join in on the discussion there at https://station.page/13 , or let us know on the socials! CONTACT THE PODCAST! Voicemail Number- (689) 214-1313 Email- the13podcast@gmail.com IG- https://www.instagram.com/the13podcast TikTok- https://www.tiktok.com/@the13podcast Twitter- https://twitter.com/the13TSpodcast YouTube- https://www.youtube.com/@13ATaylorSwiftFanPodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

As we continue the run of songs that Taylor wrote and produced with Aaron Dessner, "How Did It End" touches on Taylor's struggle with facing a public breakup. She delivers a story with various points of view, until her own emotions come through. Lacey, Nick, Amy, and Ana break down the lyrics of the song, the references, the definitions, and more! Plus, take a listen to a few voicemails from listeners! THIS PODCAST IS SPONSORED BY BETTER HELP! Go to https://www.betterhelp.com/TAYLORSWIFTFAN today to get 10% off your first month THIS PODCAST IS SPONSORED BY RUFF GREENS! To get YOUR FREE Jumpstart Trial Bag, go to http:/ruffgreens.com and use Promo code :TAYLORSWIFTFAN. THIS PODCAST IS SPONSORED BY HELLO FRESH! Get up to 10 FREE meals and a free high-protein item for life at HelloFresh.com/taylorswiftfan10fm THIS PODCAST IS SPONSORED BY QUINCE! Go to https://www.quince.com/taylorswiftfan for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns THIS PODCAST IS SPONSORED BY VIIA! Try VIIA Hemp! https://viia.co/TSFPOD use code TSFPOD THIS PODCAST IS SPONSORED BY CHIME! Get started today at https://www.chime.com/TAYLORSWIFTFAN There are lots of ways to reach us, including our exclusive Lobster Lounge! Join in on the discussion there at https://station.page/13 , or let us know on the socials! CONTACT THE PODCAST! Voicemail Number- (689) 214-1313 Email- the13podcast@gmail.com IG- https://www.instagram.com/the13podcast TikTok- https://www.tiktok.com/@the13podcast Twitter- https://twitter.com/the13TSpodcast YouTube- https://www.youtube.com/@13ATaylorSwiftFanPodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Who are Chloe, Sam, Sophia, and Marcus, that Taylor is name-dropping in this song? Are the real people in her life or is she once again taking us into her imagination?  Throughout THE TORTURED POETS DEPARTMENT, Taylor explores the deepest anxieties of her mind through imagined situations. Nick, Lacey, Amy, and Ana discuss the lyrics, callbacks, similarities, and recurring themes of this song and the album as a whole.  THIS PODCAST IS SPONSORED BY RUFF GREENS! To get YOUR FREE Jumpstart Trial Bag, go to http:/ruffgreens.com and use Promo code TAYLORSWIFTFAN. THIS PODCAST IS SPONSORED BY HELLO FRESH! Get up to 10 FREE meals and a free high-protein item for life at HelloFresh.com/taylorswiftfan10fm THIS PODCAST IS SPONSORED BY QUINCE! Go to https://www.quince.com/taylorswiftfan for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns THIS PODCAST IS SPONSORED BY VIIA! Try VIIA Hemp! https://viia.co/TSFPOD use code TSFPOD THIS PODCAST IS SPONSORED BY CHIME! Get started today at https://www.chime.com/TAYLORSWIFTFAN There are lots of ways to reach us, including our exclusive Lobster Lounge! Join in on the discussion there at https://station.page/13 , or let us know on the socials! CONTACT THE PODCAST! Voicemail Number- (689) 214-1313 Email- the13podcast@gmail.com IG- https://www.instagram.com/the13podcast TikTok- https://www.tiktok.com/@the13podcast Twitter- https://twitter.com/the13TSpodcast YouTube- https://www.youtube.com/@13ATaylorSwiftFanPodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Our girl Taylor was up for 6 awards at this year's Grammys, but unfortunately walked away empty handed.... but we are still winners for having THE TORTURED POETS DEPARTMENT on repeat, and we are so proud of our chairman!  Lacey, Ana, and Nick discuss all the biggest moments from the Grammy awards, the upcoming Super Bowl, the incredible outfit that Taylor wore, and more!  THIS PODCAST IS SPONSORED BY RUFF GREENS! To get YOUR FREE Jumpstart Trial Bag, go to http:/ruffgreens.com and use Promo code TAYLORSWIFTFAN. THIS PODCAST IS SPONSORED BY HELLO FRESH! Get up to 10 FREE meals and a free high-protein item for life at HelloFresh.com/taylorswiftfan10fm THIS PODCAST IS SPONSORED BY QUINCE! Go to https://www.quince.com/taylorswiftfan for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns THIS PODCAST IS SPONSORED BY VIIA! Try VIIA Hemp! https://viia.co/TSFPOD use code TSFPOD THIS PODCAST IS SPONSORED BY CHIME! Get started today at https://www.chime.com/TAYLORSWIFTFAN There are lots of ways to reach us, including our exclusive Lobster Lounge! Join in on the discussion there at https://station.page/13 , or let us know on the socials! CONTACT THE PODCAST! Voicemail Number- (689) 214-1313 Email- the13podcast@gmail.com IG- https://www.instagram.com/the13podcast TikTok- https://www.tiktok.com/@the13podcast Twitter- https://twitter.com/the13TSpodcast YouTube- https://www.youtube.com/@13ATaylorSwiftFanPodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices