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All-American football stars & 1st Round NFL Draft picks LaVar Arrington and Brady Quinn along with Jonas Knox start the day with informed, outspoken, fearless and often funny commentary covering the biggest sports headlines.
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LaVar Arrington, TJ Houshmandzadeh, and Plaxico Burress talk about the Lakers firing of Darvin Ham, the idea of Steelers backup QB Justin Fields returning kicks next season, Davante Adams praise of Packers QB Jordan Love, and more! #2pros #fsrweekendsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
This week on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, the Draft proves why NFL is king. The Old P, Petros Papadakis talks about the Lakers elimination. Saquon Barkley gets booed by Giants/Knicks fans at the Sixers home game. And opposing fans in the stands is good for the NBA.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Saquon Barkley gets booed by Giants/Knicks fans at the Sixers home game. Quit making a problem out of opposing fans in the stands. John Lynch has all Niners on notice and a preview of the weekend on “You In or Out?”See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
It’s a Football Friday on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, and Saquon Barkley gets booed by Giants/Knicks fans at the Sixers home game. Quit making a problem out of opposing fans in the stands. The guys play a round of “Horse Name or Horse Crap” leading up to the Kentucky Derby. And Justin Fields could be in line for returning kicks in Pittsburgh.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Today on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, Patrick Beverly’s meltdown makes him the heel of the NBA. Justin Fields could be in line for returning kicks in Pittsburgh and much more on “ICYMI.”See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Browns are ready to count their losses with Deshaun Watson. The guys play a round of “Horse Name or Horse Crap” leading up to the Kentucky Derby. Plus a weekend preview on Over/Unders.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Today on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, the Clipper are dead men walking in the Playoffs. Travis Kelce shows thanks for his record deal. There’s beef in Colorado as Deion and Shedeur clap back at critics and former teammates. Caleb Williams going No. 1 was never in doubt but he faces the same fate as Bryce Young.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Today on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, the Clipper are dead men walking in the Playoffs. Travis Kelce shows thanks for his record deal. Trey Lance is the latest QB to have his 5th-year option declined. Plus, Vampire Mt. Rushmore, chicken coops and more on “ICYMI.”See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Zeke is back in Dallas but that doesn’t mean the Cowboys are “all-in.” There’s beef in Colorado as Deion and Shedeur clap back at critics and former teammates. Anthony Edwards continues to turn heads and much more!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Caleb Williams going No. 1 was never in doubt but he faces the same fate as Bryce Young. Senior NFL Reporter Albert Breer gives his takeaways from the Draft and much more!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Today on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, the Sixers are still alive thanks to a Knicks gag job. Reports are the Giants and Vikings wanted to trade up to No. 3, likely for Drake Maye. Davante Adams has high praise for Jordan Love. Plus, car salesmen, beekeepers and more!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Today on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, the Sixers are still alive thanks to a Knicks gag job. Expect an 18-game season in the NFL sooner rather than later. Plus, car salesmen, paper straws, beekeepers and more!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Reports are the Giants and Vikings wanted to trade up to No. 3, likely for Drake Maye. The takeover is here, Dave & Buster’s will allow official gambling. Plus, grandma’s liquor cabinet & “The Good, The & The Ugly.”See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Davante Adams has high praise for Jordan Love. President and CEO of the National Thoroughbred Racing Association, Tom Rooney helps preview the Kentucky Derby. Plus, Taco Tuesday, Black Bees and the BQ  News!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Today on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, the Lakers crap the bed again against the Nuggets. Tom Brady’s roast is set while Jerod Mayo addresses a possible comeback. And The Old P, Petros Papadakis talks about the Lakers elimination.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Today on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, the Lakers crap the bed again against the Nuggets. Congrats to both Travis and Jason Kelce on their new deals. Plus, details emerge on the Mike Tyson – Jake Paul fight! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Tom Brady’s roast is set while Jerod Mayo addresses a possible comeback. The guys breakdown the finality of the Deshaun Watson trade. Plus, “Would You Rather..?”See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
The Broncos are right to think Bo Nix is ahead of the younger QBs in the Draft. The Old P, Petros Papadakis talks about the Lakers elimination. Plus, “You In or Out?”See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Today on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, the Draft proves why NFL is king. Roger Goodell alludes to an 18-game season and the Super Bowl on President’s Day Weekend. Plus, Chris Ballard defends his new draft pick in epic fashion.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Today on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, the Draft proves why NFL is king. The Timberwolves get the first sweep in Minnesota history and the Vikes work on Justin Jefferson’s deal. Plus, Barkley’s broadcast career vs playing career and Frank Gore Jr. plays with his dad’s former teammate.  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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rksp215

yo

Apr 24th
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rksp215

let's go

Feb 6th
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Aaron Hartje

It certainly didn't take long for this podcast to become another LeBron ball-licking podcast, did it?

Jun 4th
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Rick Lawson

@tedcruz is another soft belly republican who is all talk !

Feb 3rd
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Aaron Hartje

The wrong question is being asked about Lamar Jackson, and it's entirely Clay's fault that he has to reach for the Elway-Manning comparison today. What's going on right now is that Clay is paying the price for p**** now on his original assertion that the offense that had been tailored completely around Jackson in Baltimore is not one that is going to meet with postseason success. Jackson's game is Jackson's game. Baltimore's offense around Jackson is horseshit and is not the type that currently wins Super Bowls. It's disingenuous to try to lump him in with how people used to look at Elway and Manning. There was, at no time, any doubt that Elway's and Manning's games could be successful in the postseason.

Jan 18th
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Aaron Hartje

Actually, despite Clay's claim to the contrary, saying that it is clear that Brady contributed more than Belichick does actually diminish Belichick. By its very nature that statement does that. The biggest flaw in Clay's season-long narrative that either Brady or Belichick will "win the divorce" is the idea that both cannot demonstrate how much they meant to the franchise and its success. Brady has done an outstanding job this season. He stepped onto a 7-9 team loaded with offensive firepower and has gotten it to the conference championship game right as of right now. Belichick replaced Brady with a quarterback who had lost his last eight starts, put him into an offense basically devoid of weapons and went 7-8 with him. This has never been a matter of someone winning the divorce.

Jan 18th
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Aaron Hartje

Why is it that the more Clay is desperate to keep bringing up this story from last summer, that I want to actually track the story down and see how many qualifiers Clay is deliberately leaving out when talking to people on his podcast about it? Something tells me that some of these predictions were preceded by "if the data we have right now is true, then ..."

Jan 13th
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Aaron Hartje

Let me get this straight. Clay had to go back to last summer to find something to talk about during the first 20 minutes of this podcast? And on top of that decides to guess who benefited and who didn't from college football being played while at the same time criticizing people for not going with the facts? TV networks that broadcast those games would have suffered quite a bit. Sure, you can get an extension and a rebate. In the meantime, all of those people who would have been working those games are out of work. You don't survive this year on store credit for 3 years from now.

Jan 13th
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Aaron Hartje

Just to save everyone some time, Clay spends roughly 80% of the podcast repeating things he's been saying for months and crediting himself as much as possible for the fact that college football was even played this year. Big surprise, right?

Jan 12th
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Aaron Hartje

As has been acknowledged in the past, it is far too early to determine whether Brady or Belichick was most important to the Patriots. Brady stepped onto a seven-win team that was loaded with receivers. Now, look at the roster Brady left behind him. Who is to say that as bad as the Patriots were this season, they wouldn't have lost considerably more than nine games was Belichick not at the helm? They still went 7-9 with Cam Newton (7-8) at quarterback. The same Cam Newton who I believe had lost his previous eight starts in another city.

Jan 11th
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Aaron Hartje

Just a note. "Incontrovertible evidence" does not mean that everyone can tell a call was wrong. It means that it is plain and clear that the call was wrong. I think all of us have heard announcers at these games watch a replay in which the evidence is clear as day but the broadcaster is so dug in on what his initial assessment was that he will continue insisting that his initial evaluation was the right one.

Jan 11th
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Aaron Hartje

Lebatard is a piece of s*** and always has been. But to touch on Clay's interview with Peter King, what happened during that interview is that Clay brought him on to address a specific thing that King had said, changed the subject right away and ran out the clock. They never really went back and forth on the reason that King was there to begin with. I'm not saying it was intentional on Clay's part. He's not a professional interviewer who is able to keep things going in a certain direction. He will follow the conversation wherever it goes and that is fine. But he didn't really deliver a beatdown on Peter King. He still managed to expose King's line of thinking in general regarding COVID though, and that had value.

Jan 8th
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Aaron Hartje

I guess now we know why Clay hasn't invited this guy on in six months that he put on in the third hour today.

Jan 6th
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Aaron Hartje

"Patrick Mahomes is going to win a lot of Super Bowls," brought to you by "Steven Strasburg is going to pitch in a Lot of World Series."

Jan 5th
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Aaron Hartje

I love how two of the big reasons that Clay believes the chargers job is the best one are that it has a lot of young players and $30M worth of cap space. In other words, all of those young talented players are going to be looking for huge pay bumps over the next few seasons as they run out of their rookie contracts and they will more than chew up that $30 million. And by the time they're done with that, it will be the quarterback's turn to ask for more money.

Jan 5th
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Aaron Hartje

A rising tide does tend to lift some boats, but those boats still have to prove that they are worth lifting. If you're average at your job, the guy who is the best at that job getting a raise is not going to get you any sort of arrays, because you can be replaced tomorrow. The elite performers getting huge increases does not increase the entry- or mid-level salaries at these positions. It only moves the needle for the other top performers. and, to be honest, a lot of times it shouldn't. If Tony Romo gets a huge contract because everyone seems to be in love with how good he is, why should that translate into Al Michaels getting a pay bump when he has gotten no better than he was the previous 20 years? This, of course, is a side from the reality that nobody cares who is in the booth as long as they are not horrible. They care about matchups when it comes to football. It becomes a going-rate argument which, again, only applies to people who are already at a certain level.

Jan 5th
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Aaron Hartje

Clay's repeated insistence that he be given partial credit for the Big Ten playing this year has officially become pathetic.

Jan 4th
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Aaron Hartje

I've grown so tired of this b******* about last year Joe Burrow having "the greatest season by any quarterback in college football history." They were saying that by the 8th or 9th game of the season, so the postseason doesn't really apply. There are two or three quarterbacks who have statistical seasons like Burrows' damn near every season.

Dec 31st
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Aaron Hartje

"We're going to break down the NFL playoff picture for you today." I.e - "We're going to do the same show we've already done three times this week." You should be used to it by now.

Dec 31st
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Aaron Hartje

Yes, I have to agree with Clay that going 23-1 in your last 24 NFL games would be a heck of an accomplishment. The problem is, the main major league sports in this country for not include the postseason when it comes to statistics. So the Chiefs have not gone 23-1 in their last 24 games. They have gone 20-1 in their last 21 games. But why stop at that arbitrary date that Clay does? Could it be that, before this stretch began, the Chiefs had lost four of their previous six games? Even THAT record through today would still be good, but Clay's arguments are generally fairly fragile to begin with and God forbid he not contort things as much as possible to try to bolster his points. It's bad enough that he seeks approval for every opinion he has, whether it's turning to the other guys on the show, or the guests. Multiple times every day he seems to cry, "Please guys, validate me."

Dec 30th
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