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Real conversations and practical advice for everyday leaders. Sit across the table from one of the foremost experts in leadership and business. In his simple and approachable style, Pat tackles every topic related to the world of work (and some that aren’t). From culture to teamwork to building world-class organizations, Pat brings his wisdom, humor, and insight together to provide actionable advice for leaders everywhere.

For more on Pat and the Table Group, visit https://www.tablegroup.com
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268. Death by Offsite

268. Death by Offsite

2026-05-1230:21

How can you design an offsite that your team actually values?Most offsites fail because they are either too loose to be productive or too rigid to be meaningful. In episode 268 of At The Table, Patrick Lencioni and Cody break down what made their most recent offsite the best in decades. They reveal why the right mix of structure, vulnerability, and flexibility can transform an offsite into a powerful catalyst for alignment and trust.Topics explored in this episode: (00:03) Why Offsites Get a Bad ReputationOffsites often fail because they mix too many meeting types into one session.Many teams dread them due to wasted time and lack of meaningful outcomes.(02:23) The Stakes of a Great OffsitePulling people away from work and family raises the bar for value.A successful offsite must create alignment, trust, and forward momentum.(07:38) Designing with Flexibility, Not PerfectionLeaders chose a few key topics but intentionally left space in the agenda.Real value comes from adapting to what’s happening in the room.(12:10) Creating Trust Through Real ConversationsSimple exercises like sharing emotions can unlock deeper vulnerability.Organic discussions—not presentations—lead to better decisions and engagement.(25:10) Blending Work, Fun, and MeaningSocial activities work best when lightly connected to the team and mission.The goal is for people to leave feeling known, aligned, and energized.This episode of At The Table with Patrick Lencioni is brought to you by The Table Group: https://www.tablegroup.com. We teach leaders how to make work more effective and less dysfunctional. We also help their employees be more fulfilled and less miserable. Subscribe for more content from Patrick Lencioni @PatrickLencioniOfficialStay Connected with Patrick LencioniLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrick-lencioni-orghealthInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/patricklencioniofficialTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@patricklencioniofficialX: https://x.com/patricklencioniAt The Table with Patrick LencioniApple: https://apple.co/4hJKKSLSpotify: https://spoti.fi/4l1aop0YouTube: https://bit.ly/At-The-Table-Be sure to check out our other podcast, The Working Genius Podcast with Patrick Lencioni, on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4iNz6Yn), Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/3raC053GF5mtkq6Y1klpRU), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/Working-Genius-YouTube). Let us know your feedback via podcast@tablegroup.com. This episode was produced by Story On Media: https://www.storyon.co.
267. Cults vs Cultures

267. Cults vs Cultures

2026-04-2826:49

How can you tell if your company has a strong culture or just generic values?Most companies don’t struggle with being cult-like; they struggle with having any real culture at all. In this episode, Patrick Lencioni and Cody Thompson break down the critical differences between strong cultures and actual cult behavior, highlighting why clarity and conviction matter. You’ll learn why great organizations embrace distinct values, even if it means not being the right fit for everyone.Topics explored in this episode:(00:00:00) Defining Culture vs. CultCulture is built on shared beliefs, customs, and behaviors within a group.A cult involves coercion, isolation, or dangerous practices, not just strong values.(00:03:54) Why Most Companies Lack Real CultureMany organizations operate with generic or weak cultural identities.Strong cultures naturally repel people who don’t align, and that’s healthy.(00:08:24) The Role of Choice vs. CoercionHealthy cultures invite people to opt in rather than forcing conformity.The difference lies in whether behaviors are celebrated or enforced.(00:13:07) Core Values vs. Generic ValuesReal core values require sacrifice and clear differentiation.Generic values like “integrity” often fail unless deeply defined and lived out.(00:22:16) Culture Fit, Growth, and Personal AlignmentStrong cultures help people grow without forcing them to change who they are.Misalignment doesn’t mean rejection; it simply means the fit isn’t right.This episode of At The Table with Patrick Lencioni is brought to you by The Table Group: https://www.tablegroup.com. We teach leaders how to make work more effective and less dysfunctional. We also help their employees be more fulfilled and less miserable.Subscribe for more content from Patrick Lencioni @PatrickLencioniOfficialStay Connected with Patrick LencioniLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrick-lencioni-orghealthInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/patricklencioniofficialTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@patricklencioniofficialX: https://x.com/patricklencioniAt The Table with Patrick LencioniApple: https://apple.co/4hJKKSLSpotify: https://spoti.fi/4l1aop0YouTube: https://bit.ly/At-The-Table-Be sure to check out our other podcast, The Working Genius Podcast with Patrick Lencioni, on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4iNz6Yn), Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/3raC053GF5mtkq6Y1klpRU), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/Working-Genius-YouTube).Let us know your feedback via podcast@tablegroup.com.This episode was produced by Story On Media: https://www.storyon.co.
How do you know if someone truly belongs on your team?In episode 266 of At The Table, Patrick Lencioni and Cody Thompson review the surprising origin of The Ideal Team Player and why its simple framework continues to resonate years later. You’ll learn how the combination of humility, hunger, and smarts defines great team members—and what happens when one is missing. You’ll walk away with practical ways to hire better, develop your people, and build a stronger, healthier team culture.Topics explored in this episode:(00:02:23) Origins of Humble, Hungry, SmartPat explains how the three values emerged from real-world leadership experience.The framework gained traction as clients recognized its universal relevance.(00:07:24) Why the Model Works So PowerfullyThe simplicity of the framework makes it easy to apply immediately in teams.The combination of all three traits, not just one, is what drives true effectiveness.(00:11:14) Breaking Down the Three TraitsHumility, hunger, and smarts are defined with practical examples.The discussion highlights common misunderstandings, especially around “smart.”(00:21:55) The Dangers of Missing One TraitThe team explains the “accidental mess-maker,” “lovable slacker,” and “skillful politician.”Each type shows how the absence of a single virtue can damage team health over time.Get “The Ideal Team Player” today!Take The Ideal Team Player Assessment hereThis episode of At The Table with Patrick Lencioni is brought to you by The Table Group: https://www.tablegroup.com. We teach leaders how to make work more effective and less dysfunctional. We also help their employees be more fulfilled and less miserable.Subscribe for more content from Patrick Lencioni @PatrickLencioniOfficialStay Connected with Patrick LencioniLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrick-lencioni-orghealthInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/patricklencioniofficialTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@patricklencioniofficialX: https://x.com/patricklencioniAt The Table with Patrick LencioniApple: https://apple.co/4hJKKSLSpotify: https://spoti.fi/4l1aop0YouTube: https://bit.ly/At-The-Table-Be sure to check out our other podcast, The Working Genius Podcast with Patrick Lencioni, on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4iNz6Yn), Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/3raC053GF5mtkq6Y1klpRU), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/Working-Genius-YouTube).Let us know your feedback via podcast@tablegroup.com.This episode was produced by Story On Media: https://www.storyon.co.
How would your team’s culture shift if you started catching people doing their jobs well and celebrating those moments publicly?In episode 265 of At The Table, Pat Lencioni and Cody Thompson revisit Pat’s book The Truth About Employee Engagement, arguing its lessons are crucial now. They unpack the three root causes of employee misery - anonymity, irrelevance, and immeasurement - and show how any manager can improve work experience by addressing these human needs. Through stories and takeaways, they emphasize that making employees feel known, valued, and empowered to measure success requires only intentional, consistent attention.Topics explored in this episode: (00:06:46) Why the Solution Works EverywhereCody reflects on how remarkable it is that the book’s solution applies equally to an airport fast-food worker and a Fortune 100 executive.Pat introduces the first sign of a miserable job, anonymity, explaining that employees who feel unseen and unknown by their managers simply cannot love coming to work, no matter how much they earn.(00:12:25) Retention, Counterculture & Practical AdvicePat and Cody discuss how knowing employees personally is a powerful and often overlooked retention strategy, noting that people rarely leave workplaces where they feel genuinely cared for as human beings.Why leaders should be vulnerable, admit the lapse openly, and invite employees to “catch you up” on their lives, then share what’s going on in your own.(00:16:42) Why Every Job Must Matter to SomeonePat introduces the second sign of a miserable job, irrelevance, and illustrates it vividly by describing how a manager at the airport restaurant could tell that young employee his real purpose: to introduce a moment of joy and kindness into otherwise stressed travelers’ days.Cody and Pat agree that the manager’s responsibility is not only to articulate why a job matters, but to actively “catch” employees making a difference and celebrate those moments, because what gets celebrated gets repeated.(00:23:25) Immeasurement, the One-Minute Manager Demo & ClosingPat introduces the third sign, immeasurement, arguing that every employee needs a way to assess their own performance that doesn’t depend solely on a manager’s subjective opinion.Pat is challenging listeners to immediately improve in one area of knowing their people, reminding them why their work matters, and helping them measure their success.This episode of At The Table with Patrick Lencioni is brought to you by The Table Group: https://www.tablegroup.com. We teach leaders how to make work more effective and less dysfunctional. We also help their employees be more fulfilled and less miserable. Subscribe for more content from Patrick Lencioni @PatrickLencioniOfficialStay Connected with Patrick LencioniLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrick-lencioni-orghealthInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/patricklencioniofficialTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@patricklencioniofficialX: https://x.com/patricklencioniAt The Table with Patrick LencioniApple: https://apple.co/4hJKKSLSpotify: https://spoti.fi/4l1aop0YouTube: https://bit.ly/At-The-Table-Be sure to check out our other podcast, The Working Genius Podcast with Patrick Lencioni, on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4iNz6Yn), Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/3raC053GF5mtkq6Y1klpRU), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/Working-Genius-YouTube). Let us know your feedback via podcast@tablegroup.com. This episode was produced by Story On Media: https://www.storyon.co.
264. Give It Up

264. Give It Up

2026-03-1720:31

What is one behavior you repeat that may be undermining your leadership?In episode 264 of At The Table, Patrick Lencioni and Cody Thompson discuss how leaders can grow by identifying habits such as interrupting others, avoiding conflict, or deflecting discomfort with humor. Leadership advice often focuses on adding new tools, strategies, and frameworks, but sometimes the most powerful improvement comes from stopping a behavior that undermines your team. By practicing “addition by subtraction,” leaders can create healthier teams simply by removing one recurring behavior.Topics explored in this episode:(00:00:00) The Idea Of Leadership SubtractionPatrick Lencioni introduces the concept that leaders can improve by stopping behaviors rather than constantly adding new practices.The hosts frame the discussion around the Lenten tradition of giving something up and apply that idea to leadership.(00:02:11) Personal Leadership Habits That Get In The WayPatrick reflects on his tendency to interrupt others and explains how impatience and quick thinking contribute to that habit.Cody shares his own leadership tendency to use humor in uncomfortable situations and how that can sometimes derail important conversations.(00:07:56) Examples Of Leaders Who Needed To Stop A BehaviorPatrick shares stories of leaders who weakened their credibility by constantly talking about themselves or seeking affirmation.The conversation highlights how repeated behaviors can slowly erode trust within a team.(00:09:55) When Leaders Shut Down Or Ignore ConflictPatrick and Cody discuss leaders who shut down disagreements or avoid addressing uncomfortable moments during meetings.They explain how ignoring conflict or difficult conversations can damage team health and prevent productive debate.This episode of At The Table with Patrick Lencioni is brought to you by The Table Group: https://www.tablegroup.com. We teach leaders how to make work more effective and less dysfunctional. We also help their employees be more fulfilled and less miserable.Subscribe for more content from Patrick Lencioni @PatrickLencioniOfficialStay Connected with Patrick LencioniLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrick-lencioni-orghealthInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/patricklencioniofficialTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@patricklencioniofficialX: https://x.com/patricklencioniAt The Table with Patrick LencioniApple: https://apple.co/4hJKKSLSpotify: https://spoti.fi/4l1aop0YouTube: https://bit.ly/At-The-Table-Be sure to check out our other podcast, The Working Genius Podcast with Patrick Lencioni, on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4iNz6Yn), Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/3raC053GF5mtkq6Y1klpRU), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/Working-Genius-YouTube).Let us know your feedback via podcast@tablegroup.com.This episode was produced by Story On Media: https://www.storyon.co.
How can strategy stay intentional when planning cycles keep shrinking?In episode 263 of At The Table, Patrick Lencioni and Cody Thompson examine how the pace of change has transformed strategic planning. What once centered on five or ten-year plans now often lives within a three to six-month horizon.Rather than viewing this shift as chaotic, Patrick and Cody explain why a short-cycle strategy can be more responsible and effective. They explore how clarity of purpose and strong organizational health provide the stability needed to navigate constant change.Topics explored in this episode: (00:03:57) Why Planning Horizons Have ShrunkTechnology and the rapid flow of information have dramatically accelerated the pace of change.Businesses and industries now evolve so quickly that long-term certainty is nearly impossible.(00:07:24) Planning Without PanicA short-term strategy should not be confused with constant urgency or chaos.Leaders can use sprint-based planning and frequent reassessment to stay intentional and focused.(00:11:13) Values Replace Long-Term PredictionsClear purpose and behavioral values now anchor organizations more than long-range forecasts.Teams should focus on reaching the next base camp rather than mapping the entire journey.(00:14:08) Organizational Health Creates ResilienceStrong culture and clarity provide stability when strategies must change quickly.Healthy organizations can survive rapid shifts while competitors without strong foundations struggle.This episode of At The Table with Patrick Lencioni is brought to you by The Table Group: https://www.tablegroup.com. We teach leaders how to make work more effective and less dysfunctional. We also help their employees be more fulfilled and less miserable. At The Table is a podcast that lives at the connection between work life, leadership, organizational health, and culture. Subscribe on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4hJKKSL), Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/6NWAZzkzl4ljxX7S2xkHvu), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/At-The-Table-YouTube). Follow Pat Lencioni on https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrick-lencioni-orghealth, http://www.youtube.com/@PatrickLencioniOfficial, and https://x.com/patricklencioni. Be sure to check out our other podcast, The Working Genius Podcast with Patrick Lencioni, on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4iNz6Yn), Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/3raC053GF5mtkq6Y1klpRU), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/Working-Genius-YouTube). Let us know your feedback via podcast@tablegroup.com. This episode was produced by Story On Media: https://www.storyon.co.
262. Be Extreme

262. Be Extreme

2026-02-1717:41

What are you willing to repel in order to attract the right people?In this episode of At The Table, Patrick Lencioni and Cody Thompson challenge the idea that businesses should try to appeal to everyone. Instead, they argue for being intentionally extreme in two areas: core values and strategic anchors. When organizations are unmistakably clear about how they behave and how they succeed, they naturally repel the wrong employees and customers while attracting the right ones. Through examples like In-N-Out, Dutch Bros, Costco, and Nordstrom, they show how clarity and conviction create a stronger culture, cleaner decision-making, and more loyal teams and customers.Topics explored in this episode:(00:00) Why Great Organizations Repel the Wrong People* How strong values naturally filter out misaligned employees and customers* Why trying to include everyone weakens culture(04:11) Extreme Culture as a Competitive Advantage* How distinctive companies become “weird” on purpose* Why noticeable culture creates loyalty and differentiation(07:46) Strategic Anchors and the Power of Saying No* How a clear strategy eliminates distractions and opportunistic growth* Why discipline matters more than chasing every opportunity(11:33) Attracting the Right Customers by Design* How strong strategy repels misaligned customers* Why businesses grow faster when they stop trying to serve everyoneThis episode of At The Table with Patrick Lencioni is brought to you by The Table Group: https://www.tablegroup.com. We teach leaders how to make work more effective and less dysfunctional. We also help their employees be more fulfilled and less miserable.At The Table is a podcast that lives at the connection between work life, leadership, organizational health, and culture. Subscribe on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4hJKKSL), Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/6NWAZzkzl4ljxX7S2xkHvu), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/At-The-Table-YouTube).Follow Pat Lencioni on https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrick-lencioni-orghealth, http://www.youtube.com/@PatrickLencioniOfficial, and https://x.com/patricklencioni.Be sure to check out our other podcast, The Working Genius Podcast with Patrick Lencioni, on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4iNz6Yn), Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/3raC053GF5mtkq6Y1klpRU), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/Working-Genius-YouTube).Let us know your feedback via podcast@tablegroup.com.This episode was produced by Story On Media: https://www.storyon.co.
Are you creating a workplace environment that feels like a cage or a park?In episode 261 of At The Table, Patrick and Cody unpack a powerful metaphor—“cocaine water”—to explain the dangers of isolation at work. Drawing from a well-known behavioral experiment that involves cages and parks, they connect addiction, loneliness, and disengagement to modern workplace culture. The conversation makes a compelling case that real connection at work fuels not only productivity but also dignity, healing, and human flourishing.Topics explored in this episode: (00:00) Embracing Humility and Vulnerability* Importance of admitting lack of understanding* Challenges in societal pressures(07:32) The Power of Simplicity* Importance of clear and understandable explanations* The impact of simplicity in business settings(14:45) Personal Accountability and Mentorship* Maintaining a healthy lifestyle through personal accountability* Role of organizational mentors in reinforcing basic principles* Parallels between personal and organizational growth(21:19) Success Through Simplicity and Discipline* Requirements for organizational success* Test of true understanding and leadershipThis episode of At The Table with Patrick Lencioni is brought to you by The Table Group: https://www.tablegroup.com. We teach leaders how to make work more effective and less dysfunctional. We also help their employees be more fulfilled and less miserable. At The Table is a podcast that lives at the connection between work life, leadership, organizational health, and culture. Subscribe on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4hJKKSL), Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/6NWAZzkzl4ljxX7S2xkHvu), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/At-The-Table-YouTube). Follow Pat Lencioni on https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrick-lencioni-orghealth, http://www.youtube.com/@PatrickLencioniOfficial, and https://x.com/patricklencioni. Be sure to check out our other podcast, The Working Genius Podcast with Patrick Lencioni, on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4iNz6Yn), Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/3raC053GF5mtkq6Y1klpRU), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/Working-Genius-YouTube). Let us know your feedback via podcast@tablegroup.com. This episode was produced by Story On Media: https://www.storyon.co.
Are you creating a workplace environment that feels like a cage or a park?In episode 260 of At The Table, Patrick and Cody unpack a powerful metaphor—“cocaine water”—to explain the dangers of isolation at work. Drawing from a well-known behavioral experiment that involves cages and parks, they connect addiction, loneliness, and disengagement to modern workplace culture. The conversation makes a compelling case that real connection at work fuels not only productivity but also dignity, healing, and human flourishing.Topics explored in this episode: (01:23) The Cocaine Water Experiment * A behavioral experiment shows how isolation drives destructive choices, while community changes behavior.* The concept of a “rat park” illustrates how connection can eliminate addiction entirely.(04:08) Isolation and Remote Work* Reframing the remote-work debate as a question of human connection rather than location.(07:52) Dignity and Productivity Are Not Opposites* Connection improves results, satisfaction, and performance simultaneously.(13:54) Why Humans Need Multiple Communities* People are designed for varied relationships, not constant isolation or constant proximity.* Healthy work provides experiences worth bringing home and sharing with others.This episode of At The Table with Patrick Lencioni is brought to you by The Table Group: https://www.tablegroup.com. We teach leaders how to make work more effective and less dysfunctional. We also help their employees be more fulfilled and less miserable. At The Table is a podcast that lives at the connection between work life, leadership, organizational health, and culture. Subscribe on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4hJKKSL), Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/6NWAZzkzl4ljxX7S2xkHvu), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/At-The-Table-YouTube). Follow Pat Lencioni on https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrick-lencioni-orghealth, http://www.youtube.com/@PatrickLencioniOfficial, and https://x.com/patricklencioni. Be sure to check out our other podcast, The Working Genius Podcast with Patrick Lencioni, on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4iNz6Yn), Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/3raC053GF5mtkq6Y1klpRU), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/Working-Genius-YouTube). Let us know your feedback via podcast@tablegroup.com. This episode was produced by Story On Media: https://www.storyon.co.
If you’re achieving at a high level while ignoring the health of your inner life, how can you reset?In episode 259 of At The Table, Pat and Cody explore why high achievement can be a warning sign rather than a badge of honor. They explain how leaders often use success to compensate for fear, insecurity, or unresolved personal issues. The conversation underscores that true leadership effectiveness begins with inner health long before it shows up in organizational results.Topics explored in this episode: (00:30) The Real Cost of High Achievement* High achievement often masks deeper personal wounds and unmet internal needs.* Why leaders must address their spiritual, emotional, and relational health before chasing success.(03:15) The Inner Circle of Influence* How Stephen Covey’s “circle of influence” applies to a leader’s need to focus first on their internal well-being.* How fear can become the engine driving unsustainable achievement.(05:35) Organizational Health Begins With Leader Health* Warning signs: neglecting physical health, spiritual life, or family relationships despite outward business success.(09:27) Pat’s Personal Journey With Identity and Achievement* Pat opens up about decades spent tying his sense of worth to professional success and learning to shift toward internal wholeness.(14:25) Beware the High Achiever in Yourself and Others* Encouraging leaders to pursue hobbies imperfectly, embrace being “not the best,” and refuse to let performance define identity.This episode of At The Table with Patrick Lencioni is brought to you by The Table Group: https://www.tablegroup.com. We teach leaders how to make work more effective and less dysfunctional. We also help their employees be more fulfilled and less miserable. At The Table is a podcast that lives at the connection between work life, leadership, organizational health, and culture. Subscribe on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4hJKKSL), Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/6NWAZzkzl4ljxX7S2xkHvu), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/At-The-Table-YouTube). Follow Pat Lencioni on https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrick-lencioni-orghealth, http://www.youtube.com/@PatrickLencioniOfficial, and https://x.com/patricklencioni. Be sure to check out our other podcast, The Working Genius Podcast with Patrick Lencioni, on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4iNz6Yn), Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/3raC053GF5mtkq6Y1klpRU), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/Working-Genius-YouTube). Let us know your feedback via podcast@tablegroup.com. This episode was produced by Story On Media: https://www.storyon.co.
Why does recommitting to trust matter more than recommitting to strategy?Episode 258 of At The Table episode explores the moments when teams and relationships reach a breaking point—where everything could unravel or deepen. Pat and Cody reflect on their own recent off-site, sharing how choosing vulnerability and recommitment led them to greater unity, clarity, and trust. They argue that the “messy” work of recommitting isn’t soft; it’s the most essential and transformative part of leadership.Topics explored in this episode: (03:17) Why the Cliff Always Feels Real* Early moments in The Table Group’s history when setbacks could have ended everything but ultimately created stronger bonds.* Parallels between organizational plateaus and long-term marriage. (07:06) Messiness, Trust, and Misconceptions* Why leaders shouldn’t judge their own teams for imperfection. * Challenging the myth that offsites should be purely strategic. (10:58) The Moment of Truth* The “moment of truth” where a leader either risks more vulnerability or puts a ceiling on the entire organization.(15:03) Recommitment as the Path to Fruitfulness* Why trust—not strategy—is what makes or breaks performance, speed, and long-term health.* How naming hard truths unlocked unity, clarity, and deeper commitment.This episode of At The Table with Patrick Lencioni is brought to you by The Table Group: https://www.tablegroup.com. We teach leaders how to make work more effective and less dysfunctional. We also help their employees be more fulfilled and less miserable. At The Table is a podcast that lives at the connection between work life, leadership, organizational health, and culture. Subscribe on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4hJKKSL), Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/6NWAZzkzl4ljxX7S2xkHvu), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/At-The-Table-YouTube). Follow Pat Lencioni on https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrick-lencioni-orghealth, http://www.youtube.com/@PatrickLencioniOfficial, and https://x.com/patricklencioni. Be sure to check out our other podcast, The Working Genius Podcast with Patrick Lencioni, on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4iNz6Yn), Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/3raC053GF5mtkq6Y1klpRU), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/Working-Genius-YouTube). Let us know your feedback via podcast@tablegroup.com. This episode was produced by Story On Media: https://www.storyon.co.
Do you sometimes over-rely on data to cover yourself instead of trusting your judgment? Episode 257 of At The Table explores why leaders often cling to data, certainty, and predictability—even though business is inherently messy. Pat and Cody discuss how fear of failure drives over-analysis, slowing decisions and weakening judgment. Ultimately, they argue that great leadership is an art fueled by instinct, courage, and human interaction—not algorithms or metrics.Topics explored in this episode: (03:15) Data vs. Instinct in Real Business* Why instinct and common sense dominate real executive decision-making.* The human tendency to return to predictability even when it repeatedly fails.(06:29) When Data Misleads and Context Matters* How statistical predictions often fail to capture real-life variables.* How leaders hide behind numbers to avoid personal responsibility.(09:13) The Power of Seeing the Problem Directly* How over-reliance on data can obscure common sense and slow down problem-solving.(11:40) Business as Art, Not Science* The modern trend toward treating business as a purely scientific discipline.* Why instinct and integrative thinking will never be replaced by either data or AI.This episode of At The Table with Patrick Lencioni is brought to you by The Table Group: https://www.tablegroup.com. We teach leaders how to make work more effective and less dysfunctional. We also help their employees be more fulfilled and less miserable. At The Table is a podcast that lives at the connection between work life, leadership, organizational health, and culture. Subscribe on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4hJKKSL), Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/6NWAZzkzl4ljxX7S2xkHvu), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/At-The-Table-YouTube). Follow Pat Lencioni on https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrick-lencioni-orghealth, http://www.youtube.com/@PatrickLencioniOfficial, and https://x.com/patricklencioni. Be sure to check out our other podcast, The Working Genius Podcast with Patrick Lencioni, on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4iNz6Yn), Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/3raC053GF5mtkq6Y1klpRU), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/Working-Genius-YouTube). Let us know your feedback via podcast@tablegroup.com. This episode was produced by Story On Media: https://www.storyon.co.
How does working in a “toxic” culture affect your ability to perform and trust others? Also, if your organization has an unhealthy work environment, how can leaders begin the process of internal correction? In episode 256 of At The Table, Pat Lencioni and Cody Thompson unpack what “toxic culture” really means—and what it doesn’t. They explore how toxicity rarely starts at the bottom but usually traces back to the executive team’s dysfunction, lack of clarity, or tolerance for poor behavior. They also share the signs, causes, and antidotes of toxic workplaces, encouraging leaders to create environments rooted in honesty and accountability.Topics explored in this episode: (00:20) Defining “Toxic Culture”* The importance of defining “toxic” and challenging the assumption that perks equal health.(04:00) The Source of Toxicity* Toxic cultures almost always originate at the executive level, not among lower-level employees.(08:00) How to Diagnose Toxicity* Cody compares toxic environments to poor sleep—you can feel it without needing a metric.(13:00) What Toxic Cultures Look Like* Key signs: political behavior, tolerated poor performance, and confusion from unclear goals.* How even good leaders can accidentally create toxicity.(17:00) Healing and Hope for Teams* Every organization experiences some level of dysfunction—but honesty and ownership can fix it.* The idea of replacing the word “toxic” with “dysfunctional” or “political,” emphasizing that healing begins with truth.In this episode, Pat and Cody discussed the following study by the employment website, Monster: “Toxic Workplaces Are Worsening: 80% of U.S. Workers Now Say Their Job Hurts Their Mental Health”; https://www.monster.com/career-advice/job-search/news-and-insights/mental-health-in-the-workplace-poll-2025 This episode of At The Table with Patrick Lencioni is brought to you by The Table Group: https://www.tablegroup.com. We teach leaders how to make work more effective and less dysfunctional. We also help their employees be more fulfilled and less miserable. At The Table is a podcast that lives at the connection between work life, leadership, organizational health, and culture. Subscribe on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4hJKKSL), Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/6NWAZzkzl4ljxX7S2xkHvu), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/At-The-Table-YouTube). Follow Pat Lencioni on https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrick-lencioni-orghealth, http://www.youtube.com/@PatrickLencioniOfficial, and https://x.com/patricklencioni. Be sure to check out our other podcast, The Working Genius Podcast with Patrick Lencioni, on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4iNz6Yn), Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/3raC053GF5mtkq6Y1klpRU), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/Working-Genius-YouTube). Let us know your feedback via podcast@tablegroup.com. This episode was produced by Story On Media: https://www.storyon.co.
What happens when innovation outpaces our moral compass?In episode 255 of At The Table, Patrick and Cody wrestle with the tension between technological innovation and human dignity in the workplace. As artificial intelligence reshapes industries, they ask whether efficiency has become more important than humanity. This episode invites leaders and consumers alike to seek a moral “true north”—one that values people over profit and connection over convenience.Topics explored in this episode: (02:57) Innovation Without a True North* Concern that the rise of AI could fundamentally displace human work.* Innovation must be guided by ethics and human-centered purpose, not just economic efficiency.(07:15) The Role of Leaders * The need for leaders to assess whether their choices serve humanity.(10:10) The Role of Consumers* Consumers voting with their wallets and resisting convenience that devalues human connection.(14:27) The Convenience Crisis* How people increasingly prioritize ease over meaning.(18:45) Dignity, Work, and the Future* The deeper value of work beyond income—as a source of dignity, growth, and relationship.This episode of At The Table with Patrick Lencioni is brought to you by The Table Group: https://www.tablegroup.com. We teach leaders how to make work more effective and less dysfunctional. We also help their employees be more fulfilled and less miserable. At The Table is a podcast that lives at the connection between work life, leadership, organizational health, and culture. Subscribe on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4hJKKSL), Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/6NWAZzkzl4ljxX7S2xkHvu), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/At-The-Table-YouTube). Follow Pat Lencioni on https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrick-lencioni-orghealth, http://www.youtube.com/@PatrickLencioniOfficial, and https://x.com/patricklencioni. Be sure to check out our other podcast, The Working Genius Podcast with Patrick Lencioni, on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4iNz6Yn), Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/3raC053GF5mtkq6Y1klpRU), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/Working-Genius-YouTube). Let us know your feedback via podcast@tablegroup.com. This episode was produced by Story On Media: https://www.storyon.co.
254. Virtual Politics

254. Virtual Politics

2025-10-2818:001

Have your remote teams been unknowingly breeding politics through silence and distance?In episode 254 of At The Table, Pat and Cody explore how remote work can unintentionally foster politics and erode trust within teams. They unpack why virtual communication creates space for misunderstanding and suspicion—even among well-intentioned people. They also offer practical advice for building connections, restoring trust, and maintaining healthy team dynamics across distance.Topics explored in this episode: (00:00) Understanding Virtual Politics* How “virtual politics” can be thought of as the subtle mistrust that grows when people work apart.(03:30) How Distance Fuels Assumptions* How lack of information makes people fill in the gaps—often with negative assumptions.(06:27) Building Proactive Trust* How frequent, small check-ins can keep trust alive.* Why men and women sometimes handle connection differently and how teams can structure regular contact.(09:43) Efficiency vs. Relationship* How Zoom culture prioritizes efficiency over connection. * Pat introduces the concept of “wasting time well” as essential for maintaining team health.(11:52) The Ladder of Inference * Pat explains the “ladder of inference” and how remote work accelerates false assumptions.This episode of At The Table with Patrick Lencioni is brought to you by The Table Group: https://www.tablegroup.com. We teach leaders how to make work more effective and less dysfunctional. We also help their employees be more fulfilled and less miserable. At The Table is a podcast that lives at the connection between work life, leadership, organizational health, and culture. Subscribe on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4hJKKSL), Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/6NWAZzkzl4ljxX7S2xkHvu), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/At-The-Table-YouTube). Follow Pat Lencioni on https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrick-lencioni-orghealth, http://www.youtube.com/@PatrickLencioniOfficial, and https://x.com/patricklencioni. Be sure to check out our other podcast, The Working Genius Podcast with Patrick Lencioni, on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4iNz6Yn), Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/3raC053GF5mtkq6Y1klpRU), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/Working-Genius-YouTube). Let us know your feedback via podcast@tablegroup.com. This episode was produced by Story On Media: https://www.storyon.co.
Are you unintentionally eroding trust by avoiding hard conversations? Also, what happens to your team when trust goes unexercised?In episode 253 of At The Table, Patrick Lencioni and Cody Thompson unpack why trust isn’t something to simply build and preserve—it must be used, stretched, and tested to grow stronger. They explore how leaders unintentionally erode trust by avoiding honest curiosity, mistaking it for suspicion. Topics explored in this episode: (00:00) Curiosity vs. Suspicion* How simple questions like “What are you working on?” can build or break trust.* Why avoiding questions to “protect” trust actually weakens it over time.(04:59) Trust Isn’t a Museum Piece* Unused trust is like a car that’s never driven—beautiful but purposeless.(09:56) Healthy Relationships Aren’t Fragile* How conflict and tension signal healthy trust, not dysfunction.* The importance of exercising trust through candid conversations.(13:28) Trust and Remote Leadership* How distance and fear of misinterpretation can make trust decay faster.(17:16) Leaders Must Take the First Risk* Pat challenges leaders to stop being afraid of awkwardness and exercise trust first.This episode of At The Table with Patrick Lencioni is brought to you by The Table Group: https://www.tablegroup.com. We teach leaders how to make work more effective and less dysfunctional. We also help their employees be more fulfilled and less miserable. At The Table is a podcast that lives at the connection between work life, leadership, organizational health, and culture. Subscribe on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4hJKKSL), Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/6NWAZzkzl4ljxX7S2xkHvu), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/At-The-Table-YouTube). Follow Pat Lencioni on https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrick-lencioni-orghealth, http://www.youtube.com/@PatrickLencioniOfficial, and https://x.com/patricklencioni. Be sure to check out our other podcast, The Working Genius Podcast with Patrick Lencioni, on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4iNz6Yn), Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/3raC053GF5mtkq6Y1klpRU), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/Working-Genius-YouTube). Let us know your feedback via podcast@tablegroup.com. This episode was produced by Story On Media: https://www.storyon.co.
What happens to a culture when leaders ignore problems?In episode 252 of At The Table, Patrick and Cody explore the leadership principle of running toward the fire. They discuss why leaders often ignore the “smoke” of personnel or cultural issues, hoping problems will resolve themselves. Instead, they argue that credibility, trust, and organizational health are built when leaders courageously confront issues before they spread.Topics explored in this episode: 00:35 – Seeing Smoke* Leaders set the tone by how they respond to problems.03:33 – Defining the Fire* Personnel problems are the most commonly ignored fires in organizations.06:03 – Why Leaders Avoid the Fire* Confrontation feels messy and uncomfortable, especially when emotions are involved.09:45 – The Cost of Avoidance* Ignoring smoke damages credibility, weakens leadership muscle, and sets a bad cultural example.12:20 – Regaining Credibility* Leaders can only rebuild trust through visible action, not promises.This episode of At The Table with Patrick Lencioni is brought to you by The Table Group: https://www.tablegroup.com. We teach leaders how to make work more effective and less dysfunctional. We also help their employees be more fulfilled and less miserable. At The Table is a podcast that lives at the connection between work life, leadership, organizational health, and culture. Subscribe on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4hJKKSL), Spotify (https://spoti.fi/4l1aop0), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/At-The-Table-YouTube). Follow Pat Lencioni on https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrick-lencioni-orghealth, http://www.youtube.com/@PatrickLencioniOfficial, and https://x.com/patricklencioni. Be sure to check out our other podcast, The Working Genius Podcast with Patrick Lencioni, on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4iNz6Yn), Spotify (https://spoti.fi/4iGGm8u), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/Working-Genius-YouTube). Let us know your feedback via podcast@tablegroup.com. This episode was produced by Story On Media: https://www.storyon.co.
In what ways can the formula for change be useful for understanding both personal and organizational change?In episode 251 of At The Table, Patrick and Cody explore the so-called change equation, a simple yet powerful formula that explains why some change efforts succeed while others stall. Breaking it down into dissatisfaction, vision, and a first simple step—multiplied together—they show how these elements must outweigh resistance for change to occur. Topics explored in this episode: 0:55 – The Change Equation3:17 – D: Dissatisfaction with the Current State* How leaders and individuals can identify and amplify dissatisfaction.4:38 – V: Vision for a Better Future* The importance of painting a clear and compelling future state.6:52 – F: The First Simple Step* Why a small, achievable action builds momentum and reduces overwhelm.17:59 – R: Resistance to Change* How fear, comfort, and uncertainty fuel resistance.Here are some additional notes that relate to the equation explored in this episode: D × V × F > R. D = Dissatisfaction with how things are now. V = Vision of what is possible. F = First concrete steps that can be taken towards the vision. If the product of these three factors is greater than R = Resistance, then change is possible. Because D, V, and F are multiplied, if any one is absent (zero) or low, then the product will be zero or low and therefore not capable of overcoming the resistance.This episode of At The Table with Patrick Lencioni is brought to you by The Table Group: https://www.tablegroup.com. We teach leaders how to make work more effective and less dysfunctional. We also help their employees be more fulfilled and less miserable. At The Table is a podcast that lives at the connection between work life, leadership, organizational health, and culture. Subscribe on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4hJKKSL), Spotify (https://spoti.fi/4l1aop0), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/At-The-Table-YouTube). Follow Pat Lencioni on https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrick-lencioni-orghealth, http://www.youtube.com/@PatrickLencioniOfficial, and https://x.com/patricklencioni. Be sure to check out our other podcast, The Working Genius Podcast with Patrick Lencioni, on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4iNz6Yn), Spotify (https://spoti.fi/4iGGm8u), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/Working-Genius-YouTube). Let us know your feedback via podcast@tablegroup.com. This episode was produced by Story On Media: https://www.storyon.co.
250. BaaM & WaaM

250. BaaM & WaaM

2025-09-0218:48

How would your workplace culture change if love and service were driving forces?In episode 250 of At The Table, Pat and Cody introduce the concepts of BaaM (Business as a Ministry) and WaaM (Work as a Ministry). They explore how viewing business and work through the lens of service and love can create healthier workplaces and stronger organizations. Whether you’re leading a public company or managing a small team, this conversation will invite how you think about purpose, culture, and results.Topics explored in this episode: (0:32) Business as a Ministry (BaaM) * How businesses can be seen as a way to serve others with love, going beyond just the transactional goal of making money(3:10) The Case for Love in Business* Tim Sanders’ book Love Is the Killer App.* How fear-based businesses struggle while love-centered cultures thrive.* The challenge of applying BaaM in public companies.(5:48) Work as a Ministry (Waam)* WaaM can be useful for employees in less purpose-driven organizations.(8:07) Ministry Doesn’t Sacrifice Results* John Gordon’s belief that love fuels high performance.* Love-driven work produces results, but should be pursued because it’s right.This episode of At The Table with Patrick Lencioni is brought to you by The Table Group: https://www.tablegroup.com. We teach leaders how to make work more effective and less dysfunctional. We also help their employees be more fulfilled and less miserable. At The Table is a podcast that lives at the connection between work life, leadership, organizational health, and culture. Subscribe on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4hJKKSL), Spotify (https://spoti.fi/4l1aop0), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/At-The-Table-YouTube). Follow Pat Lencioni on https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrick-lencioni-orghealth, http://www.youtube.com/@PatrickLencioniOfficial, and https://x.com/patricklencioni. Be sure to check out our other podcast, The Working Genius Podcast with Patrick Lencioni, on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4iNz6Yn), Spotify (https://spoti.fi/4iGGm8u), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/Working-Genius-YouTube). Let us know your feedback via podcast@tablegroup.com. This episode was produced by Story On Media: https://www.storyon.co.
249. Hunger Wins

249. Hunger Wins

2025-08-1918:28

How can you create a workforce of hungry people who aren't trying to prove their worth by the number of hours they work? And how can you help your coworkers build a sense of ownership and passion around their work? In episode 249 of At The Table, Pat and Cody explore why “hunger wins” when it comes to building competitive, effective teams. They challenge the misconception that long hours translate to productivity. They also reveal how to create sustainable competitiveness that inspires people to go above and beyond—without burning them out.Topics explored in this episode: (0:40) Hunger and Competitiveness* Global trends and misconceptions about competitiveness, including China’s 996 work model.(4:12) The Pitfalls of Overwork* Why excessive hours lead to burnout and inefficiency.(7:25) Hunger in Organizational Culture* Hunger can’t be legislated or regulated—it must be built into culture.* The importance of avoiding extremes, hiring the right people, and providing flexibility.(10:09) Ownership and Sustainable Competitiveness* How ownership fuels hunger and why pushing employees is sometimes necessary for growth.(15:41) Hiring Right and Protecting Culture* The importance of hiring competitive people and quickly addressing poor fits.This episode of At The Table with Patrick Lencioni is brought to you by The Table Group: https://www.tablegroup.com. We teach leaders how to make work more effective and less dysfunctional. We also help their employees be more fulfilled and less miserable. At The Table is a podcast that lives at the connection between work life, leadership, organizational health, and culture. Subscribe on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4hJKKSL), Spotify (https://spoti.fi/4l1aop0), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/At-The-Table-YouTube). Follow Pat Lencioni on https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrick-lencioni-orghealth and http://www.youtube.com/@PatrickLencioniOfficial, and https://x.com/patricklencioni.Be sure to check out our other podcast, The Working Genius Podcast with Patrick Lencioni, on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4iNz6Yn), Spotify (https://spoti.fi/4iGGm8u), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/Working-Genius-YouTube). Let us know your feedback via podcast@tablegroup.com. This episode was produced by Story On Media: https://www.storyon.co.
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Christiane Glanz

I've been listening to this podcast and thinking how it applies to me. I find myself not sharing vital information with my fellow leaders and feel it may come from a desire to feed my ego. Would this fall under skillful politician? I'm happy to admit mistakes and am willing to take on feedback when someone suggests I could do something differently. I find my colleagues also have a lot of ego and are not willing to admit mistakes to each other. Clearly a lack of trustWould love to hear from you?

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Paul Loeffler

Managers don't get to know employees because it takes time, and it feels like it crosses a line that lowers the manager's authority.

Oct 11th
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Paul Loeffler

I loved this... other than they didn't do every team. I would have listened for another 30 min for more teams.

Sep 4th
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Sunny Hisel

Ha! I thought your company was much bigger too 😁

Oct 21st
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Paul Loeffler

Fantastic content for both job and family leadership.

Aug 29th
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Paul Kyle

thanks for this podcast. it's great to hear about the struggles that other leaders have. also appreciate the exhortation to be strong:)!

Feb 26th
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Luiz Fernando

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Feb 7th
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