Be There in Five

In the season 1 finale, Kate decides she should have another season after over 6 years of not realizing she was still technically in season one of Be There in Five, then delves into her candid experience with motherhood she’s promised the main feed for the last year. Enjoy a follow-up from Childless Mill, some cheesy mom thoughts about cuteness aggression & having no chill, practical tips about L&D, surviving months 1-3, and feeling surprised by her social identity, among many other discussions inside the vast world of motherhood. Join her to debunk some of her prior misconceptions and confirm plenty of former doomsday perceptions, with heartfelt personal anecdotes aplenty. After this episode, Kate’s taking a hiatus until September, so if you want more bonus content & weekly BTIF episodes, go to patreon.com/bethereinfive. Join for a year for 10% off or join for a day, she’s not picky. Enjoy!Fin.Order Kate's NYT Bestselling book, One in a Millennial here!Sign up for ButcherBox today by going to Butcherbox.com/BETHEREINFIVE and use code BETHEREINFIVE at checkout and enjoy your choice of bone-in chicken thighs, top sirloins, or salmon in every box for an entire year, plus get $20 off! Again, that's Butcherbox.com/BETHEREINFIVE and use code BETHEREINFIVE!Simplify your kiddo’s mealtime with 30% OFF your first order. Go to LITTLESPOON.COM/BETHEREINFIVE and enter our code BETHEREINFIVE at checkout to get 30% OFF your first Little Spoon order.  Get healthy, glowing skin for summer with clean, vegan skin and body care from OSEA. Get 10% off your first order sitewide with code BETHEREINFIVE at OSEAMalibu.com. You’ll get free samples with every order, and free shipping on orders over $60.Get 25% off your first month for a limited time at ritual.com/BETHEREINFIVE. Start Ritual or add HyaCera to your subscription today. That’s ritual.com/BETHEREINFIVE for 25% off.

This week, Kate explores the Ballerina Farm article heard ‘round the World Wide Web and reacts to the Times UK profile of homesteaders Hannah Neeleman and her husband Daniel, who run a picturesque farm in Utah with their eight children. Kate high-level examines Neeleman’s portrayal of farm life, the influence of their Mormon faith on gender roles, how that lack of context likely made the article more inflammatory to a secular audience, and discusses the complexities of claimed empowerment in our choices when they’re from a finite set of options. She also goes on a gratuitous Juilliard tangent (the Troy Bolton of it all), but not before a predictable plea to her audience to not marry someone after three weeks and a rant about bearing children being left up to God's will. Kate also touches on her confusion about the label of “trad wife,” wonders if she is one while her son is on her lap while she records, and attempts to explore the nuances of active versus passive harm when promoting a certain traditional (or regressive) lifestyle on the internet. Enjoy!https://www.thetimes.com/magazines/the-sunday-times-magazine/article/meet-the-queen-of-the-trad-wives-and-her-eight-children-plfr50cgkSUPPORT OUR SPONSORSOrder Kate's NYT Bestselling book, One in a Millennial here!Right now get up to 60% off your Babbel subscription - but only for our listeners - at Babbel.com/BTIF.Get up to 60% off at Babbel.com/BTIF. Rules and restrictions may apply.Remember to go to cozyearth.com/bethereinfive to enjoy 30% off using the code BETHEREINFIVE. And after placing your order, select “podcast” in the survey and then select “BETHEREINFIVE” in the dropdown menu that follows.Right now, Hungryroot is offering Be There In Five listeners 40% off your first delivery and free veggies for life. Just go to Hungryroot.com/BETHEREINFIVE, to get 40% off your first delivery and get your free veggies. That’s Hungryroot.com/BETHEREINFIVE. Don’t forget to use our link, so they know we sent you.Celebrate friendship and adventure this summer with Pair Eyewear. Go to paireyewear.com and use code BTIF for 15% off your first Pair. And mention that [Be There in Five] sent you in your post-checkout survey to support us.

This week, Kate is joined by Hannah Berner, comedian and host of the popular podcasts Giggly Squad and Berner Phone, and the star of her new Netflix special, We Ride at Dawn. Broadcasting from a studio in NYC, Kate asks about her trajectory since reality TV, the flawless burnt amber matching set outfit choice, navigating the male-dominated stand-up scene, and the importance of centering niche female humor in mainstream spaces. They also discuss the pressure women face in their 30s, the ever-present dilemma of having kids, and how Hannah feels that tennis is now an aesthetic, among other things. Enjoy!SUPPORT OUR SPONSORSOrder Kate's NYT Bestselling book, One in a Millennial here: https://static.macmillan.com/static/smp/one-in-a-millenial/Now through July 31 you can try 3 months of Audible Premium Plus for ZERO dollars! Gift yourself or someone special an Audible Premium Plus membership today. #CommissionsEarnedRight now get up to 60% off your Babbel subscription - but only for our listeners - at Babbel.com/BTIF. Get up to 60% off at Babbel.com/BTIF. Rules and restrictions may apply.Sign up for ButcherBox today by going to Butcherbox.com/BETHEREINFIVE and use code BETHEREINFIVE at checkout and enjoy your choice of bone-in chicken thighs, top sirloins, or salmon in every box for an entire year, plus get $20 off! Again, that's Butcherbox.com/BETHEREINFIVE and use code BETHEREINFIVE!Tags:Hannah Berner, Giggly Squad, Summer House, women in comedy, We Ride at Dawn, Netflix special, Bravo

This week, we’re joined by two friends of the pod, Sami Sage (Betches Co-Founder) and Emily Amick (@emilyinyourphone) about their book Democracy in Retrograde (released 7/9). The discussion focuses on how to spark civic engagement amid increased societal polarization, challenges in public civic life, the importance of making civic duties enjoyable, and how digital lives influence political participation. From pivotal issues like minority rule to voter suppression, Sami and Emily offer practical advice and their real-life experience to help us all feel a little better about being more civics-minded and involved. Enjoy!Order Democracy in Retrograde by Sami Sage and Emily Amick here: https://amzn.to/3Y4eP9AOrder Kate's NYT Bestselling book, One in a Millennial, here: https://static.macmillan.com/static/smp/one-in-a-millenial/SUPPORT OUR SPONSORSNow through July 31 you can try 3 months of Audible Premium Plus for ZERO dollars! Gift yourself or someone special an Audible Premium Plus membership today. #CommissionsEarnedFor understated luxury at its best this spring, shop the must-have pairs of the season and receive 20% off your purchase with code BETHEREINFIVE at marcfisherfootwear.com.Get 10% off your first order sitewide with code BETHEREINFIVE at OSEAMalibu.com. You’ll get free samples with every order, and free shipping on orders over $60. Head to OSEAMalibu.com and use code BETHEREINFIVE for 10% off.HyaCera from Ritual is a clinically-proven skin supplement you can actually trust.* Get 25% off your first month for a limited time at ritual.com/BETHEREINFIVE. Start Ritual or add HyaCera to your subscription today. That’s ritual.com/BETHEREINFIVE for 25% off.

This week, Kate is deep-diving into America's Sweethearts, a docu-series about the Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders, which recently debuted on the heels of a canceled reality show Kate had a love/hate relationship with (but watched for 16 seasons): Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders: Making The Team.Victoria's interview starts at ~1:00:00In the first hour, Kate reviews the docuseries solo and gives her lukewarm takes about their choice to give up production control, her deep-seated fear of Kelli McGonagill Finglass, the immense talent of the women and impressive legacy of the brand, and DCC being the last frontier of a place that seems to openly discriminates based on body type while asking you to do the most and get paid the least. Additionally, the challenges of professional cheerleading, including mental health struggles, relationship dynamics, body image pressures, compensation issues, and the support systems necessary for resilienceIn the second hour, Kate is honored to be joined by one of the stars of the docuseries, former 4-year veteran Victoria Kalina, who captivated audiences with her candor about the challenges of a life spent chasing the DCC dream and what navigating sisterhood, mental health, and body image really looks like behind the scenes. She answers all your questions, from who she keeps in touch with, who was really invited to her Tiktok party, the infamous twin bed, the final meeting with Kelli and Judy, finding purpose in sharing about her mental health, the pressure involved with being a legacy, while sharing what she's up to now that she's chosen to build a legacy for herself. Enjoy!SUPPORT OUR SPONSORSNow through July 31 you can try 3 months of Audible for ZERO dollars! Gift yourself or someone special an Audible membership today. #CommissionsEarnedOrder Kate's NYT Bestselling book, One in a Millennial here!Get your Track Five Chicago July 13 tickets here.Helix is offering up to 30% off all mattress orders AND two free pillows for our listeners! Go to HelixSleep.com/BeThereInFive. This is their best offer yet and it won’t last long! With Helix, better sleep starts now.Get healthy, glowing skin for summer with clean, vegan skin and body care from OSEA. Get 10% off your first order sitewide with code BETHEREINFIVE at OSEAMalibu.com. You’ll get free samples with every order, and free shipping on orders over $60. Head to OSEAMalibu.com and use code BETHEREINFIVE for 10% off.

This week, we’ve got a highly anticipated podcast crossover—Jac Vanek, Becca Tobin, and Keltie Knight from LadyGang join Be There in Five! The discussion journeys through their early days of rebranding (IYKYK) to classic millennial nostalgia and the not-so-hidden issues that accompanied some of our favorite pastimes. They discuss dance culture's economic and cultural challenges, the problematic nature of early internet culture (looking at you, AIM chat rooms), and interactions with celebrities from red carpets to IRL sightings. Enjoy!SUPPORT OUR SPONSORSOrder Kate's NYT Bestselling book, One in a Millennial, here: https://static.macmillan.com/static/smp/one-in-a-millenial/Helix is offering up to 30% off all mattress orders AND two free pillows for our listeners! Go to HelixSleep.com/BeThereInFive. That’s HelixSleep.com/BeThereInFive.Snap into summer and get 15% off your first Pair with code BTIF at paireyewear.com. Support the show by mentioning that Be There in Five sent you in your post-checkout survey.Honey the book by Isabel Banta is on sale now everywhere books are sold!Tags:Interview, Lady Gang, J.Lo, MySpace, AIM, AOL, red carpet

This week, Kate is answering listener voicemails, like dishing on the culinary delight of buffalo chicken wraps while exploring the dynamics of grilled vs. breaded chicken. Then, she discusses how she thinks people conflate data about screen time overuse with general screen time use and rants about not buying into the “mom guilt.” She also delves into hot pop culture topics, including Taylor Swift's chart strategies against artists like Billie Eilish and Charli XCX, and revisits Olivia Rodrigo’s song “The Grudge.” She also discusses the new “It girls” of pop, like Chappell Roan, Sabrina Carpenter, and Renee Rapp, and finishes answering a question about her plans for Teddy to have siblings. Enjoy!03:18 Musings of a Buffalo Chicken Wrap Enthusiast05:14 I don't care what I'm getting; I demand breading16:21 Screen Time and Parenting38:11 New Pop "It Girls" - Renee Rapp, Chappell Roan, Sabrina Carpenter53:07 Charli XCX and the Taylor Swift Chart Controversy01:30:57 Personal Reflections: Siblings and ParenthoodSUPPORT OUR SPONSORSOrder Kate's NYT Bestselling book, One in a Millennial here!Right now, BÉIS (base) is offering our listeners 15% off your first purchase by visiting BEISTRAVEL.com/BETHEREINFIVESign up for ButcherBox today by going to Butcherbox.com/BETHEREINFIVE and use code BETHEREINFIVE at checkout and enjoy your choice of bone-in chicken thighs, top sirloins, or salmon in every box for an entire year, plus get $20 off!Remember to go to cozyearth.com/bethereinfive to enjoy 30% off using the code BETHEREINFIVE. And after placing your order, select “podcast” in the survey and then select “BETHEREINFIVE” in the dropdown menu that follows.SUPPORT OUR SPONSORSOrder Kate's NYT Bestselling book, One in a Millennial here!Right now, BÉIS (base) is offering our listeners 15% off your first purchase by visiting BEISTRAVEL.com/BETHEREINFIVESign up for ButcherBox today by going to Butcherbox.com/BETHEREINFIVE and use code BETHEREINFIVE at checkout and enjoy your choice of bone-in chicken thighs, top sirloins, or salmon in every box for an entire year, plus get $20 off!Remember to go to cozyearth.com/bethereinfive to enjoy 30% off using the code BETHEREINFIVE. And after placing your order, select “podcast” in the survey and then select “BETHEREINFIVE” in the dropdown menu that follows.

This week, Kate critiques the stagnant nature of traditional Father's Day gift guides and compares them to the rapidly changing trends for women like “office siren,” which leads her to snorkel through the current male microtrend: having a “rat boy summer” or taking on a “rodent boyfriend.” She also discusses how aggressive the gals on TikTok are getting about items being on sale and reflects upon why she’s being followed by a product called Bovine colostrum. Then, after a detour about irreverent bumper stickers, she formally responds to a clip she heard on New Heights where some of the Kelce’s takes about D-COMs were just plain D-wrong, and provides a framework involving DCOM cinema that will help you determine if you’re an old or young millennial. She also talks about TV ratings and how naive we can be about what we think is popular versus what’s truly mainstream and complains about the Curse of Oak Island doing the least but getting the most ratings relative to ladies like the Housewives whose lives implode on television for meager hype. The conversation also touches on reproductive rights, the volume of IVF-related news this week, and, lastly, celebrates millennial dads breaking traditional molds amid reflections on her own motherhood journey. Kate wraps up by inviting audience feedback for the podcast's future direction in a shifting industry landscape. Can you tell this was AI-generated? Enjoy!00:37 The Eternal Struggle of Men's Gift Guides04:06 Micro Trends and Aesthetics for Women08:35 The Rise of 'Rat Boy Summer' and Male Aesthetics11:16 The Impact of TikTok Ads and Shopping Trends30:05 Nostalgic Dive into Disney Channel Original Movies36:24 Millennial Disney Channel Divides37:28 High School Musical: A Cultural Shift44:00 Bumper Stickers That Must Be Stopped48:09 The Curse of Oak Island: A TV Phenomenon49:05 TV Ratings and Reality Shows54:21 Diving into Reproductive Rights55:50 Navigating Infertility and IVF01:16:59 The Reality of Parenting and Partnerships01:17:26 Celebrating Millennial Dads01:29:13 Podcast Future and Listener FeedbackSUPPORT OUR SPONSORSTurn your ordinary water into extraordinary hydration with Liquid I.V. Get 20% off your first order of Liquid I.V. when you go to LIQUID-IV.COM and use code BETHEREINFIVE at checkout. That’s 20% off your first order when you shop better hydration today using promo code BETHEREINFIVE at LIQUID-IV.COM.Get healthy, glowing skin for summer with clean, vegan skin and body care from OSEA. Get 10% off your first order sitewide with code BETHEREINFIVE at OSEAMalibu.com. You’ll get free samples with every order, and free shipping on orders over $60. Head to OSEAMalibu.com and use code BETHEREINFIVE for 10% off.For understated luxury at its best this spring, shop the must-have pairs of the season and receive 20% off your purchase with code BETHEREINFIVE at marcfisherfootwear.com.

This week, Kate is solo and snorkeling through some of the latest and oldest of topics, like time. She warms up by wandering through things like grandfather clocks, the true crime history of the Magdalene Laundries (aka "Maggies") in Ireland, Harrison Butker’s speech, lyrics where people quote Taylor Swift but don’t realize she’s quoting someone else, and ponders why we treat punctuality like it’s an inherent virtue to the human condition when people had no way of knowing the precise time until the 18th century. Then, she crowdsources on IG in real time people's thoughts about having heirlooms as millennials in an era of fast fashion and furniture, highlighting the statement pieces of yesteryear that are incredibly pricey to maintain and whose experts are dying off. Then Kate goes off on a tangent about lucrative niche trade careers, like fixing grandfather clocks and elevator technicians, in case anyone's in the mood for a career pivot. Very random, they can't all be hits, enjoy!Order Kate's NYT Bestselling book, One in a Millennial here!Go to www.cozyearth.com/bethereinfive to enjoy 30% off using the code BETHEREINFIVE. And after placing your order, select “podcast” in the survey and then select “BE THERE IN FIVE” in the dropdown menu that follows.Turn your ordinary water into extraordinary hydration with Liquid I.V. Get 20% off your first order of Liquid I.V. when you go to LIQUID-IV.COM and use code BETHEREINFIVE at checkout. That’s 20% off your first order when you shop better hydration today using promo code BETHEREINFIVE at LIQUID-IV.COM.HyaCera from Ritual is a clinically-proven skin supplement you can actually trust.* Get 25% off your first month for a limited time at ritual.com/BETHEREINFIVE. Start Ritual or add HyaCera to your subscription today. That’s ritual.com/BETHEREINFIVE for 25% off.

This week, beloved #1 best-selling author Emily Henry (Beach Read, Book Lovers, Happy Place, etc.) is back for Millennial Ennui: the Sequel to chat about her latest romance novel, Funny Story. Kate and Em Hen (she delusionally thinks they’re BFFs/on a nickname basis) talk about a variety of topics, from gift shop enthusiasm to the characters we problematically root for in RomComs, to the prevalence of fudge in touristy areas. They also discuss female friendships, what it’s like behind-the-scenes to adapt books to the big screen, and explore the intricacies of female characters in Emily's books and the related challenges faced by women in their 30s—touching on breakups, motherhood desires, and societal expectations. The convo also dances through Taylor Swift's songwriting, the struggles of writing deadlines, and the wonders of libraries as havens for diverse stories and support. Enjoy!SUPPORT OUR SPONSORSOrder Kate's NYT Bestselling book, One in a Millennial here: https://static.macmillan.com/static/smp/one-in-a-millenial/Right now, BÉIS is offering our listeners 15% off your first purchase by visiting BEISTRAVEL.com/BETHEREINFIVE. Go to BEISTRAVEL.com/BETHEREINFIVE for 15% off your first purchase.Helix is offering up to 30% off all mattress orders AND two free pillows for our listeners! Go to HelixSleep.com/BeThereInFive. That’s HelixSleep.Com/BeThereInFive. This is their best offer yet and it won’t last long! With Helix, better sleep starts now.One Pair, infinite possibilities. Go to paireyewear.com and use code BTIF for 15% off your first pair. And support the show by mentioning that Be There in Five sent you in your post-checkout survey! That’s paireyewear.com, code BTIF.The Fits Everybody collection is available in sizes XXS to 4X. You can shop now at SKIMS.com. After you place your order, be sure to let them know I sent you! Select "podcast" in the survey and be sure to select my show in the dropdown menu that follows.Tags:Interview, Author, Romance Novels, Emily Henry, RomComs, Taylor Swift, Michigan

This week, Kate’s chatting with co-author of the audiobook The Art of Small Talk (also actress, comedian, host of The Deep Dive podcast), Jessica St. Clair. Jessica shares her personal experience with the gift of gab and gives advice about the art of casual conversation, with topics ranging from how to be friendly with neighbors to stories about pleasant celeb run-ins. Overall, a joyful interaction that is essentially a celebration of the joys of everyday interactions. Enjoy! SUPPORT OUR SPONSORSOrder Kate's NYT Bestselling book, One in a Millennial here!Sign up at butcherbox.com/BETHEREINFIVE and get our special deal! Butcherbox is offering our listeners a special deal plus $20 off your first order. Join today using my link butcherbox.com/BETHEREINFIVE and use code BETHEREINFIVE receive this unique deal today.Turn your ordinary water into extraordinary hydration with Liquid I.V. Get 20% off your first order of Liquid I.V. when you go to LIQUID-IV.COM and use code BETHEREINFIVE at checkout. That’s 20% off your first order when you shop better hydration today using promo code BETHEREINFIVE at LIQUID-IV.COM.Get healthy, glowing skin for summer with clean, vegan skin and body care from OSEA. Get 10% off your first order sitewide with code BETHEREINFIVE at OSEAMalibu.com. You’ll get free samples with every order, and free shipping on orders over $60.

This week, Kate interviews podcast listener and NFL WAG Haley Pepper, who shares her experiences with a lot of BTI5 adjacent topics, like pageants, Bama sororities, and being in a relationship with a professional athlete. She discusses the misconceptions and realities of this lifestyle, including the lack of job security, the high expenses, and the pressure of constantly moving and adapting, along with the challenges of motherhood. Enjoy! SUPPORT OUR SPONSORSOrder Kate's NYT Bestselling book, One in a Millennial here!  Head to cozyearth.com, and use code BETHEREINFIVE to discover your next destination for ultimate comfort with Cozy Earth. Turn your ordinary water into extraordinary hydration with Liquid I.V. Get 20% off your first order of Liquid I.V. when you go to LIQUID-IV.COM and use code BETHEREINFIVE at checkout. Simplify your kiddo’s mealtime with 30% OFF your first order. Go to LITTLESPOON.COM/BETHEREINFIVE and enter our code BETHEREINFIVE at checkout to get 30% OFF your first Little Spoon order. For understated luxury at its best this spring, shop the must-have pairs of the season and receive 20% off your purchase with code BETHEREINFIVE 

This week, Kate is joined by NYT bestselling romance author Carley Fortune (Meet Me at the Lake, Every Summer After) to discuss her latest book, dropping on May 7th, This Summer Will Be Different. They discuss Carley’s former "RomCom job" as an editor at Refinery29 Canada and her pivot to becoming a romance writer, the importance of strong female friendships and real experiences represented in literature, and why Prince Edward Island may be the next hot vacation spot. They also touch on literary tropes, Carley’s journey of writing through early motherhood, and how her own life has shaped her storytelling. Then, Kate can't help but fangirl that Meet Me at the Lake has been optioned by Archewell Productions, so she asks if she's met Meg, among other things. No spoilers - Enjoy!SUPPORT OUR SPONSORSOrder Kate's NYT Bestselling book, One in a Millennial here: https://static.macmillan.com/static/smp/one-in-a-millenial/Read “This Summer Will be Different” by Carley Fortune: https://www.carleyfortune.com/this-summer-will-be-differentRight now, BÉIS (base) is offering our listeners 15% off your first purchase by visiting BEISTRAVEL.com/BETHEREINFIVE.Get 25% off your first month for a limited time at ritual.com/BETHEREINFIVE. Start Ritual or add HyaCera today. That’s ritual.com/BETHEREINFIVE for 25% off.Whether you're off on a grand adventure or just chillin' at home, Cozy Earth has your back (and your bed) covered. Head to cozyearth.com, and use code BETHEREINFIVE to discover your next destination for ultimate comfort with Cozy Earth.

This week, Kate crowdsources stories about attempting to, getting away with, or getting caught consuming age-inappropriate content as a kid and reads brave and inspiring stories from pop culture champions who fought for lyrics that weren’t clean and movies only suitable for ages over thirteen. From tales from the locked-and-loaded thumbs on the ‘back’ button of the remote control to the trials of the photocopiers and/or printers of the lyrics to “What’s Your Fantasy,” to the tribulations of those who fantasized about being “rubbed the right way” in their Genie in a Bottle era, this episode has something for everybody. If you have a story to share, email podcast@bethereinfive.com with the episode title in the subject line. Enjoy!SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS!Order Kate's NYT Bestselling book, One in a Millennial here!For understated luxury at its best this spring, shop the must-have pairs of the season and receive 20% off your purchase with code BETHEREINFIVE at marcfisherfootwear.com.Visit dreamlandbabyco.com and use code BETHEREINFIVE for 20% off, new and existing customers!You can shop now at SKIMS.com. After you place your order, be sure to let them know I sent you! Select "podcast" in the survey and be sure to select my show in the dropdown menu that follows.

First impressions of Taylor Swift's 11th studio album, The Tortured Poets Department. See Kate and her sister Kelly's live reactions in 4 parts on patreon.com/bethereinfive if you're in the crowd and screaming MORE!SUPPORT OUR SPONSORSOrder Kate's NYT Bestselling book, One in a Millennial here!Use my link butcherbox.com/BETHEREINFIVE and use code BETHEREINFIVE to get $20 off your first order. That’s butcherbox.com/BETHEREINFIVE and code BETHEREINFIVE.Get 20% off your first order of Liquid I.V. when you go to LIQUID-IV.COM and use code BETHEREINFIVE at checkout. That’s 20% off your first order when you shop better hydration today using promo code BETHEREINFIVE at LIQUID-IV.COM.Get 10% off your first order sitewide with code BETHEREINFIVE at OSEAMalibu.com. You’ll get free samples with every order, and free shipping on orders over $60.Go to paireyewear.com and use code BTIF for 15% off your first pair. And support the show by mentioning that [Be There in Five] sent you in your post-checkout survey!

This week, a magical marvel of a solar event stuns the world, and Kate and Caroline can’t be bothered to go outside. Instead, they take a look into their mirrored furniture and do some self-reflection, such as why we always think the current version of ourselves participating in lightning-fast trend turnover is “timeless.” They also discuss various topics like avoiding popular movies and tv shows that will bum them out, fast furniture, SoulCycle music, etc. At one point, Kate goes on a rant about the marketing of a denim company that works overtime to remind her she probably hates her body post-baby, and they also spend quite a bit of time going through the Cupcakes & Cashmere archives on the Wayback machine. Enjoy!SUPPORT OUR SPONSORSOrder Kate's NYT Bestselling book, One in a Millennial here!Treat yourself to ultimate comfort with Cozy Earth bedding and sleepwear, and prioritize your self-care and sleep health. You deserve it Mom. Head over to cozyearth.com and use promo code BETHEREINFIVE for an exclusive 35% off. The luxury she deserves. Cozy Earth.Helix is offering 20% off all mattress orders AND two free pillows for our listeners! Go to HelixSleep.com.BeThereInFive and use code HELIXPARTNER20. This is their best offer yet and it won’t last long! With Helix, better sleep starts now.Take the first step to visibly thicker, healthier hair. For a limited time, Nutrafol is offering our listeners ten dollars off your first month’s subscription and free shipping when you go to Nutrafol.com and enter the promo code BETHEREINFIVE. Find out why over 4,500 healthcare professionals and hair stylists recommend Nutrafol for healthier hair.For understated luxury at its best this spring, shop the must-have pairs of the season and receive 20% off your purchase with code BETHEREINFIVE at marcfisherfootwear.com.

This week, Amanda Montell (linguist and bestselling author of Cultish) is back on the pod for the first time since the LuLaRoe deep dive. This time, they’re discussing Amanda’s new book (out April 9) called The Age of Magical Overthinking, which explores our cognitive biases and the power, disadvantages, and highlights of magical thinking. Broadly defined as the belief that one’s internal thoughts can affect unrelated events in the external world, the book (and this episode) examines topics like celebrity worship, manifesting babes, therapy speak, toxic relationships, weaponized nostalgia, conspiracy theories, and other categories where our inner mental gymnasts are doing the most to justify our behavior. Enjoy!SUPPORT OUR SPONSORSOrder Kate's NYT Bestselling book, One in a Millennial here!Right now, BÉIS (base) is offering our listeners 15% off your first purchase by visiting BEISTRAVEL.com/BETHEREINFIVE. Go to BEISTRAVEL.com/BETHEREINFIVE for 15% off your first purchase.Get 20% off your first order when you go to LIQUID-IV.COM and use code BETHEREINFIVE at checkout. That’s 20% off your first order when you shop better hydration today using promo code BETHEREINFIVE at LIQUID-IV.COM.Get 10% off your first order sitewide with code BETHEREINFIVE at OSEAMalibu.com. You’ll get free samples with every order, and free shipping on orders over $60.Get 25% off your first month for a limited time at ritual.com/BETHEREINFIVE. Start Ritual or add HyaCera to your subscription today. That’s ritual.com/BETHEREINFIVE for 25% off.

This week, Kate is joined by Cassey Ho, best known for her blog/brand/YouTube channel Blogilates and also for being CEO and lead designer behind her apparel line POPFLEX. As the daughter of Vietnamese immigrants, Cassey's non-negotiable, pre-destined career path was medicine. Despite her dream of becoming a fashion designer being severely suppressed, she found her way out of biology and into design and fitness influencing in the heyday of YouTube and now has amassed millions of subscribers and followers, billions of views, and a wildly successful activewear line (that Kate wears constantly). She also happens to be a Beth, so this combines two series: Under the Influencer & Beths in Show. They dive into her background, her YouTube days, diet culture and body positivity, internet trolls who comment on your body, Popflex crowdsourced product development and design, and Kate even provides her two cents about what she needs in an elusive black one-piece bathing suit and Cassey just might be up for the task. Enjoy!SUPPORT OUR SPONSORSColumbus & Minneapolis tickets for sale Monday 4/1 10 EST at bethereinfive.com/live-showsOrder Kate's NYT Bestselling book, One in a Millennial here!Go to dreamlandbabyco.com and enter my code BETHEREINFIVE at checkout to receive 20% off sitewide + free shipping. This offer is for new and existing customers!Prose is SO confident that you’ll bring out your best hair and skin that they’re offering an exclusive trial offer of FIFTY percent off your first subscription order at PROSE.com/bethereinfive. So you get your FREE consultation, then FIFTY percent off at PROSE.com/bethereinfive.For understated luxury at its best this spring, shop the must-have pairs of the season and receive 20% off your purchase with code BETHEREINFIVE at marcfisherfootwear.com.

This week, Kate solo snorkels through a variety of topics, including but not limited to:Power ranking Ms. Rachel songsCalculating how much money she probs makesHand-slapping campfire songs as millennial folklore2000s songs with a maybe problematic cultural flairThe Giving Tree is not the vibeMinor controversies with Ms. Rachel’s troupeOlivia Rodrigo ConcertPeople don’t understand Plan BA Frito Pie/Traveling Nacho hangoverHero school cafeteria lunchesDodgeball as a torture mechanismWondering if I’d get a boyfriend if I drove a stickAnd other riveting topics.Kate Middleton newsEnjoy!SUPPORT OUR SPONSORSOrder Kate's NYT Bestselling book, One in a Millennial here!With ButcherBox, you don't have to worry about what's for dinner. ButcherBox is offering our listeners their choice of a weeknight meal essential—3 lbs of chicken thighs, 2 lbs of ground beef, or 1 lb of premium steak tips—for free in every order for a whole year. Plus, get $20 off your first order. Sign up today at butcherbox.com/BETHEREINFIVE and use code BETHEREINFIVE to choose your free offer and get $20 off.Take the first step to visibly thicker, healthier hair. For a limited time, Nutrafol is offering our listeners ten dollars off your first month’s subscription and free shipping when you go to Nutrafol.com and enter the promo code BETHEREINFIVE. Find out why over 4,500 healthcare professionals and hair stylists recommend Nutrafol for healthier hair.The Fits Everybody collection is available in sizes XXS to 4X. You can shop now at SKIMS.com. Plus, get free shipping on orders over seventy five dollars! After you place your order, be sure to let them know I sent you! Select "podcast" in the survey and be sure to select my show in the dropdown menu that follows.Listen to Stars and Stars with Isa wherever you listen to podcasts.

Kate is joined by comedian and TV host Michelle Collins to discuss this week’s events and related tangents. They venture into topics such as royal conspiracy theories, Meghan Markle’s new business venture, a brief spiral over the 5 hard R sounds in American Riviera Orchard, the Oscars, Cillian Murphy’s height, British slang, hair yearbooks, Kate’s mom life, and Love is Blind, among other topics. Enjoy!SUPPORT OUR SPONSORSOrder Kate's NYT Bestselling book, One in a Millennial here!Right now, BÉIS is offering our listeners 15% off your first purchase by visiting BEISTRAVEL.com/BETHEREINFIVE.Helix is offering 20% off all mattress orders AND two free pillows for our listeners! Go to HelixSleep.com/BeThereInFive and use code HELIXPARTNER20. This is their best offer yet and it won’t last long! With Helix, better sleep starts now.However you hydrate, grab your Liquid I.V. Hydration Multiplier Sugar-Free in bulk nationwide at Costco or get 20% off your first order when you go to LIQUID-IV.COM and use code BETHEREINFIVE at checkout. That’s 20% off your first order when you shop better hydration today using promo code BETHEREINFIVE at LIQUID-IV.COM.Visualize a fantastic new year with Pair Eyewear. Go to paireyewear.com and use code BTIF for 15% off your first pair. And support the show by mentioning that Be There in Five sent you in your post-checkout survey!