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From Rick Rubin, Malcolm Gladwell, Bruce Headlam, and Justin Richmond. The musicians you love talk about their life, inspiration, and craft. Then play. iHeartMedia is the exclusive podcast partner of Pushkin Industries.
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Iggy Pop, Part 2

Iggy Pop, Part 2

2023-01-3152:431

Today we have part two of Rick Rubin’s conversation with proto-punk icon, Iggy Pop. If you didn’t catch part one last week where Iggy talked about his early days with the Stooges and the inspiration behind some of their most seminal songs, make sure you check that out. On today’s episode you’ll hear Iggy talk in-depth about the years he spent working and touring with David Bowie. He also explains how James Brown inspired his legendary performance style, and then Iggy recalls the ridiculous antics that led to him bleeding on stage for the first time. You can hear a playlist of some of our favorite Stooges and Iggy Pop solo songs HERE.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Iggy Pop, Part 1

Iggy Pop, Part 1

2023-01-2401:08:093

Iggy Pop is one of the most outrageous rock ‘n roll frontmen to ever step foot on stage. As the lead singer of The Stooges, Iggy was known for bending and contorting his sometimes-bloodied body while feverishly pacing the stage like a wild animal. Iggy’s 50-year career has been as tumultuous as his performance style. When The Stooges first broke up in the mid-70s, Iggy went solo and recorded a series of albums, some instant classics, others more experimental. At 75 years-old he’s just released his newest album, Every Loser. On today’s episode Iggy shares incredible stories with Rick Rubin about his career. Their conversation was so great that we decided to split it into two consecutive episodes. Today we’ll hear Iggy reminisce about recording Fun House in Los Angeles, and the first time he saw the ocean. Iggy also talks about the tight-knit rock scene in Detroit and how it was in some ways led by a local writer, activist and music manager named John Sinclair. Also, stay put at the end of this episode to hear a song off of Iggy’s new album. You can hear a playlist of some of our favorite Stooges and Iggy Pop solo songs HERE.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Today the interviewer becomes the interviewee. In his nearly 40-year career as a producer, Rick Rubin has helped unlock creativity and inspire musical genius time and time again. The artists he’s worked with often say that one of Rick’s superpowers is his expert ability to listen deeply, and to help guide whoever he’s working with to find their deepest expression of truth. This month Rick released his first book, called The Creative Act: A Way Of Being. In it he shares practical principles on how anyone can generate creative authenticity and ultimately find their voice. On today’s episode Malcolm Gladwell talks to Rick about The Creative Act, and they explore the principles in the book that are applicable to feelings of stagnation beyond artistic life. Rick talks about why he believes creativity comes from external forces rather than internal ones, and he explains why he believes that self expression isn’t actually about you.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Here’s a preview of a new podcast from Pushkin, Story of the Week. Each week, journalist Joel Stein chooses an article that fascinates him, convinces the writer to tell him about it, and then interrupts a good conversation by talking about himself. Sometimes the story will be the one everyone is talking about, like the New Yorker article on smoking hallucinogenic toads. Other times we’ll find a story you might have missed, like the one in the Verge about the rock groupie turned hacker who had huge corporations at her mercy. These are stories you’ll tell your friends about. Stories that stick with you long after you forget whatever headline you just doom-scrolled through. Hear the full episode, and more from Story of the Week, at https://podcasts.pushkin.fm/sotw?sid=record. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Johnny Mathis

Johnny Mathis

2022-12-2732:122

Today, we are featuring “The Voice of Christmas,” Mr. Johnny Mathis. Over the years, Mr. Mathis has released six Christmas albums. His iconic first holiday record, Merry Christmas, is a tribute to his mother and father and still stands as one of the most beloved collections of Christmas music ever. Now 87 years-old, Johnny is celebrating his 66th year as a recording artist. And he’s still performing. In fact, we only had a brief 30 minutes to speak with him because he needs to save his voice for his rigorous performing schedule. On today's episode, Justin Richmond talks to Johnny about his illustrious career, and performing with greats like Duke Ellington and Nat King Cole. And Johnny shares the story about how he turned down the opportunity to qualify for the 1956 Olympics to launch his music career. You can hear a playlist of some of our favorite Johnny Mathis songs HERE.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Today we have part four of our John Frusciante Returns series. This is the latest installment of Rick Rubin’s on-going series of in-depth interviews with the Red Hot Chili Peppers guitarist. And if this is the first interview you’re hearing, make sure to go back and check out the first three parts. On this episode we'll hear John Frusciante play through more of his guitar parts, and he’ll explain how he came up with some of the best guitar melodies in modern rock history. John also talks about how playing along to classic heavy metal albums from Black Sabbath and Van Halen, as well as dancing all night at drum and bass clubs helped shape his style on the 2002 album, By The Way. He also explains how listening to Brandy, Destiny’s Child and Wu-Tang Clan helped influence his playing on Stadium Arcadium. You can hear a playlist of some of our favorite Red Hot Chili Peppers songs HERE.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
We’re back with the third episode in our John Frusciante Returns series. Over the past couple of months Rick Rubin and John Frusciante of the Red Hot Chili Peppers have come together to tape an on-going series of conversations that dives deep into John’s philosophical and practical approach to writing music and playing guitar. If you haven’t heard the previous episodes, make sure to check them out. Today, we’ll hear John talk about his love of electronic music and how he struggled to fall back in love with guitar-based rock before recording the Chili Peppers latest set of albums. He also talks about the process of making Californication, and near the end of the interview, John picks up a guitar to play through some of his most well known guitar parts from that album. You can listen to a playlist of some of our favorite Red Hot Chili Peppers songs HERE.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Stormzy

Stormzy

2022-12-0601:02:151

The British hip-hop subgenre grime first started to bubble up in London in the early aughts. Artists like Wiley and Dizzee Rascal developed an entirely new style by rapping over lightning-fast beats inspired by UK garage, techno and jungle. Today’s guest, Stormzy is at the forefront of grime’s newest generation. He rose to prominence in 2015 after uploading a video to YouTube where he freestyled over classic grime tracks. Since then Stormzy has released three number one albums in the UK, won three Brit Awards, and become the first British rapper to headline the Glastonbury festival. Just before releasing his third album, This Is What I Mean, Stormzy met up with Rick Rubin in London for a cover story from i-d Magazine’s Royalty issue. This is the recording of that conversation. On today’s episode we’ll hear Stormzy play Rick songs from his new album, and explain why he decided to consider his audience last when recording it. And Stormzy talks about how a painful break-up and trusting God helped lead him to a new melodic, soulful sound. You can listen to a playlist of some of our favorite Stormzy songs HERE.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Neil Young

Neil Young

2022-11-2901:20:383

If Broken Record had an all-star list, Neil Young would be at the top. He’s been on the show three times now, and his legendary body of work has been brought up by more musicians interviewed on our show than any other artist—except maybe Joni Mitchell. That’s because Neil is a true artist’s artist. His dedication to his craft is resolute. He’s been writing and singing songs since the early '60s and his creative output has been near constant for the last six decades. Neil stopped by Shangri-La following the release of Crazy Horse’s latest album, World Record. The album was produced by Rick Rubin, and on today’s episode, Neil talks to Rick about the remarkable way the new songs were conceived. Neil also reminisces about recording After The Gold Rush and Harvest. And he explains how THC changes his relationship to music. You can listen to a playlist of some of our favorite Neil Young songs HERE.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Scoring Bad Women

Scoring Bad Women

2022-11-2601:00:08

Today we're sharing a fun conversation with the musicians who scored another Pushkin Industries podcast—Bad Women. The first season of Bad Women focused on reconstructing the lives of the five women that Jack the Ripper murdered. Now, the second season centers around a murderer every bit terrifying as Jack the Ripper, the so-called Blackout Ripper. On today's episode, Justin Richmond speaks with sound designer Pascal Wyse and jazz guitarist Ed Gaughan about their music-rich score. They talk about how they evoked the atmosphere of war-time bars and jazz clubs in 1940's London, and we'll hear them play examples of arrangements they created for the series. Listen and subscribe to season two of Bad Women HERE.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Jacob Collier, Part 2

Jacob Collier, Part 2

2022-11-2449:201

Today we have part two of Bruce Headlam’s conversation with YouTube sensation turned five-time Grammy winner Jacob Collier. We left off our last episode with Jacob talking about what it’s like to perform to an audience of thousands of people after spending years growing his fan base online. In this episode, we’ll hear Jacob play the piano and go even deeper into music theory. Jacob also talks more about his new album, Piano Ballads, and about how the song “Moon River” taught him the power of centering his avant-garde arrangements on emotions. You can listen to a playlist of some of our favorite Jacob Collier songs HERE.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Jacob Collier, Part 1

Jacob Collier, Part 1

2022-11-2259:151

Musical genius and multi-instrumentalist Jacob Collier joins us today for part one of a two-part conversation. In 2011, when Jacob was only 17, he began posting videos to YouTube of himself singing and playing music. His break-out video, a rendition of Stevie Wonder’s “Don’t You Worry ‘Bout a Thing” received millions of views and praise from musical legends like Herbie Hancock, David Crosby, and Quincy Jones. Since then, he’s gone on to release five albums, including his 2016 self-produced debut In My Room, and this year's Piano Ballads, an 11-track album of  improvised piano pieces he played at various shows during a recent tour. On today’s episode, Bruce Headlam speaks to Jacob Collier about making his latest live album, his creative process, and his musical admiration for Stevie Wonder. Jacob also plays piano throughout the two episodes, and breaks down advanced musical concepts. You can listen to a playlist of some of our favorite Jacob Collier songs HERE.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Maggie Rogers

Maggie Rogers

2022-11-1556:191

Maggie Rogers has never been one to mince words. Aside from her powerhouse voice, one of Maggie’s superpowers is her ability to write pop songs fueled by radical emotional transparency. And while it’s thrilling when an artist bares their soul, that level of constant vulnerability can be unsustainable.In 2019, after releasing her Grammy-nominated debut, Heard It In A Past Life, and then touring the album relentlessly, Maggie was desperately in need of time away from the spotlight. Just before the pandemic she retreated to her parent’s home in coastal Maine. There, she began writing and recording for her follow-up album, Surrender. Maggie also started to think deeply about her role as a pop star, and the relationship between herself and the audience. In 2021 she enrolled in a masters program of religion and public life at Harvard Divinity School. There, her studies focused on the spirituality of public gatherings and the ethics of power in pop culture. On today’s episode, producer Leah Rose talks to Maggie Rogers about how comforting it was for her to become a student again. Maggie also recalls the time she took motorcycle lessons to re-channel the massive amounts of adrenaline she experienced on her first tour. And, we’ll hear the song from Maggie’s new album that she says is the perfect distillation of where she is at now as an artist. You can hear a playlist of our favorite Maggie Rogers songs HERE.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
In her new Pushkin audiobook Inside Voice: My Obsession with How We Sound, actress/writer/director/producer Lake Bell goes down some fascinating rabbit holes, exploring the psychology and social science of our voices.  But you gotta start with the mechanics.  In this excerpt you’ll hear Lake's conversation with ENT doc to the stars Dr. Randolph Schnitman. He's treated the who’s who of music, strengthening and even saving their voices. If you’re interested at all in how our voices make beautiful music, you’ll like Inside Voice. Available at insidevoiceaudiobook.com, Audible, Apple Books, Spotify, and wherever audiobooks are sold.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Today we’re excited to bring you the next installment of our John Frusciante interview series. John first came on the podcast back in April to help celebrate the release of the Red Hot Chili Peppers album, Unlimited Love. Then he returned in mid-October to discuss Chili Pepper history, one album at a time. On today's episode we'll hear John talk about the Chili Peppers brand new release—their second number one album in six months—Return Of The Dream Canteen. John also picks up a guitar and walks Rick through his pre-show warmup and demonstrates how he came up with the now-classic major to minor chord changes on “Under The Bridge.” And, he talks about how he was able to overcome his desire to impress others while recording Stadium Arcadium. Stay tuned to the end of this episode for details about part three of what is shaping up to be an intimate series of interviews between Rick Rubin and John Frusciante. You can hear a playlist of some of our favorite Red Hot Chili Peppers songs HERE.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Gabriels

Gabriels

2022-11-0101:04:211

Today we are featuring one of the most thrilling new groups in contemporary soul music—Gabriels. And lucky for us, they performed three songs, one of which is still unreleased, live for Broken Record. Gabriels consists of three very distinct pillars of talent: lead singer Jacob Lusk, who was raised in Compton singing gospel. Keyboardist and producer Ryan Hope, who grew up a lover of dance music in his native UK. And Los Angeles native, Ari Balouzian, who serves as Gabriels' in-house composer and violinist. Gabriels’ origin story is as unconventional as their diverse musical backgrounds. In 2016 Ryan Hope and Ari Balouzian were hired to direct and score a commercial with a gospel choir. After hearing the choir director Jacob Lusk sing, a light went off for Ari and Ryan. Over the course of the next couple of years, the trio started to record and release songs independently. In 2021, those songs caught fire online. Sir Elton John said their debut EP was one of the most seminal records he’d heard in the last 10 years. On today’s episode Rick Rubin sits down with Gabriels to hear how they were able to create a working environment that allowed space for vulnerability and musical exploration. And lead singer Jacob Lusk tells a harrowing story about getting lost in the LA county jail system in an effort to clear his name so he could appear in the finale of American Idol. You can hear a playlist of some of our favorite songs by Gabriels HERE.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Anaïs Mitchell

Anaïs Mitchell

2022-10-2501:04:232

Today we will hear from singer-songwriter and playwright Anaïs Mitchell who spent the past 16 years building the world of Hadestown, a career-defining stage musical that has grown from a low-budget community production in Mitchell's native Vermont, to a Broadway phenomenon and the winner of eight Tony Awards, including Best Musical and Best Original Score. But in March 2020, when the COVID-19 pandemic shuttered theaters, Anaïs, like so many others, moved back home to Vermont. The move and change of pace inspired her to start writing indie folk songs. Her self-titled album, released at the beginning of 2022, is made up of those songs. It’s produced by Josh Kaufman, and was made with collaborators like Bon Iver, The National, and her own band Bonny Light Horseman. On today’s episode, Bruce Headlam speaks with Anaïs Mitchell about her new album and how Hadestown came to be. She also plays some songs off her album live, just for us. You can hear a playlist of some of our favorite songs written and performed by Anaïs Mitchell HERE.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Today we’re sharing one of the most intimate conversations Rick Rubin has ever had on Broken Record. It’s with the famed guitarist of the Red Hot Chili Peppers, John Frusciante. Rick Rubin last spoke to John back in April when the Chili Peppers were getting ready to release their album, Unlimited Love, their first record with Frusciante in 16 years. Unlimited Love debuted at number one in the U.S. and 15 other countries. Today, just a little more than six months later, the Chili Peppers released a second Rick Rubin-produced album, Return Of The Dream Canteen. On today’s episode we’ll hear John Frusciante talk about the band’s early music, including the making of Blood Sugar Sex Magik. They talk about how his contributions on slower, more melodic songs like “Under The Bridge” and “Breaking The Girl” helped expand the Chili Peppers funk punk sound. John also talks candidly about the dark, drug-addicted years that followed the intense success of Blood Sugar. And he explains how he was able to finally get sober and rejoin the Chili Peppers to record their classic, commercial comeback album, Californication. You can hear a playlist of some of our favorite Red Hot Chili Peppers songs HERE.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Bartees Strange

Bartees Strange

2022-10-1156:57

Bartees Strange is an amalgamation of musical styles. Listen to any given song on his newest release, Farm To Table, and you can hear hints of early aughts emo, auto-tuned hip-hop vocals, and country blues—all housed in an indie rock veneer. Bartees wide-reaching sound makes perfect sense given his Midwest upbringing and early influences. He was raised in Mustang, Oklahoma as one of the few Black kids in an area rife with racial violence. As a  teenager he discovered Christian hardcore punk and for the first time he felt at home in a scene that embraced outsiders of all kinds. After graduating college and a stint working in D.C., Bartees  moved to Brooklyn where he found a bunch of musical collaborators. In 2020 he released his debut album, Live Forever, and this year he dropped his follow-up album, Farm To Table, to critical acclaim. On today’s episode Justin Richmond talks to Bartees Strange about his ascent into the upper echelon of indie rock, now that he considers artists like Phoebe Bridgers and Lucy Dacus friends. Bartees also performs an acoustic version of his song “Heavy Heart," and he plays stems from two songs off his new album, revealing how he is able to expertly build what he calls, “sections on sections.” You can listen to a playlist of some of our favorite Bartees Strange songs HERE.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Sylvan Esso

Sylvan Esso

2022-10-0459:441

Sylvan Esso’s Nick Sanborn and Amelia Meath have been making music together since 2013, when Amelia asked Nick, a music producer and bassist, to remix her band Mountain Man’s hit single “Play It Right.” He did, and the rest is history. Sylvan Esso has always had a very sleek, electro-pop feel to their production. Amelia’s powerful voice is front and center, surrounded by harmonies and samples of her own voice. Nick’s genre-destroying bass creates intricate, pulsing grooves for Amelia’s voice to inhabit. Now, the married couple and electronic duo have released their fourth studio album, No Rules Sandy. It’s a follow-up to the band’s Grammy-nominated 2020 album, Free Love. The new album is a mix of improvisation and experimentation. On today’s episode, Bruce Headlam speaks with Amelia and Nick about their creative process and how No Rules Sandy came to be. They also play two songs off their new album live. You can hear a playlist of some of our favorite Sylvan Esso songs HERE.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Howard stein

really good interview. the band had always been on my radar but i never got round to properly listening to them. the tracks they played on this pod were great. going to finally deep dive into them. start with the latest album and work backwards

Oct 18th
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King Flippy Nips

Wtf is this?

Oct 16th
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Ivan Terrero

nice interview bit no mention of Jesus as Lord and Savior

Jun 25th
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Howard stein

the interviews, as ever with Rick are amazing, but the most amazing thing listening to the tracks is the evolution of the band. as much younger guys, the fierceness and funk was representative of their age and influences, but too heavy for my taste. my favourite chillies albums were californication and by the way. the albums after were OK, but the great tracks on this pod from the new album hones their craft over all the years and all their styles through their career. really looking forward to listening to the whole album. they maybe in their late 50s now, but they're still absolutely relevant and have loads to offer to old fans and new.

Apr 8th
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Don Hodgdon

Loved this episode! Thank you so much. Bonnie is a National Treasure ❤

Apr 2nd
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Nick Couckuyt

that hard turn away from politics on to the wooden Indian was painful. this is Neil Young, let him talk politics.

Jan 4th
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Julian Bigg

brilliant episode!!!

Sep 17th
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Howard stein

another great interview. not a great fan of Mark Ronson but you can't ignore the impact he has had on music and the big names who work with him. the way he talks about the genesis of a dj set was super interesting

Jul 20th
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Ole

Wow, brilliant!

Jun 9th
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Howard Stein

really loved this interview you particularly Rick's nouse in getting the absolute best out of musicians whilst in session, and dave taking notes for future sessions with artists!

Jan 21st
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Howard Stein

this interview shouldve been awesome, had Rick been able to get a word in!! no doubt of Lisa's calibre, but I felt she was too much, me me me me and not enough about the phenomenal list of artists she has worked with. turned off after half hour.

Jan 21st
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Paul meaux

Sturgill you get it brother! Keep being you and we will keep listening to you!

Dec 11th
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Marco Appel

absolutely brilliant podcast!! only new to this series but this is a great story

Dec 1st
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Howard Stein

amazing interview, and the pride and love of her dads work you can hear from adria is awesome. I continue to be mesmerized by rick's interviewing and knowledge..

Nov 3rd
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JML

Take a drink ever time Rick says "amazing".

Oct 31st
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JML

This guy is an awful interviewer.

Oct 30th
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Joseph Norwood

God I missTom

Oct 15th
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ID18553327

Hard listen and so many real emotions. Rip Justin

Aug 25th
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Glenn Roberts

Blah blah blah.. Just more Liberal BS.

Jul 1st
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Tiana Mae Odden

Yes please Imogen Heap and Pentatonix 😭😭 my jaw dropped when they mentioned her ughhhh

Mar 31st
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