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Stories of claiming independence after leaving high-control groups.  

Hi!  I’m Shelise Ann Sola— former devout Mormon.  On C2C, my husband Jonathan and I dive deep into the nuance of culty organizations.  From Extreme Christian Fundamentalism, FLDS Polygamy, Amish, Mennonite, Mormonism, Scientology, Ultra Orthodox, and Jehovah's Witnesses, to cults featured in popular docu-series, we interview cult experts, survivors, advocates, therapists, way-showers, authors, and more, to uncover how they find independence and healing through awareness and true individual sovereignty. 

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Joined for a second time by Mary (former Amish) and Hannah (former Holdeman Mennonite), we discuss the ways in which being gay/bi in their settlements harshly affected them and how queer plain people are generally erased from society. Bringing awareness and visibility to the LGBTQ community, they share their experiences openly and shed light on the disproportionate harm they faced.Watch Mary's original episodeWatch Hannah's original episodehttps://www.lgbtamish.com/The Trevor ProjectHannah's bookFollow Hannah on social media:TikTok: @hannahprosser_beatMary’s BookFollow Mary on Social:IG @plainrainbows_mary Fb: https://www.facebook.com/Mary.A.Byler/TikTok: the.misfit.amishThe Misfit Amish PodcastOur C2C vacation where we can meet you in real life and go on adventures together has 5 spots left!  Click here to go to the official booking page Hannah explains some basic rules about her Holdeman Mennonite settlementMary explains the basic rules in her Amish settlementModesty and hyper-sexulization of womenMarriage without courtship in MennonitesCourtship in Mary's Amish settlementsTW: CSA-“Sex education" booklet for parents to teach kidsWhen Hannah recognized she had feelings for girls The consequences of Mary coming out to her parents at 5 yrs oldTW: LGBTQ suicide- The Trevor ProjectHow strict gender roles affected Mary's mentalitySome Amish are run out of their settlement when it's found out they are gayTW: Rape- Do the Amish have conversion therapy?Mary's advice for anyone leaving the Amish trying to find themselvesMary's activismOur Merch! Patreon: Patreon.com/cultstoconsciousnessVenmo @sheliseannAny donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcastWebsite CultsToConsciousness.comFind Shelise on Social media!Instagram @cultstoconsciousnessHost Instagram @sheliseannTikTok @cults.to.consciousnessTwitter @cultstoconTheme Song Produced and Composed by Christian Guevara**Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.**
*Content Warning : SA, CA, CSA, mentions of rape* After enduring an excruciating youth at the hands of her mother and step father, isolated on a mountainside, Misty was forced into an Amish settlement at 18 years old. Though in many ways this new lifestyle was far more liberating than what she was used to, it came with darker days than she could’ve ever imagined. Hurt and blamed by those most trusted she took a risk and tried to escape. Http://www.Change.org/childrightsact to sign Misty’s petition to get congress to come in and protect the youth locked in cultsFind and Support Misty!Buy her book "Tears of the Silenced"IG @mistyelainegriffinFacebook: Misty GriffinWebsite: https://www.mistygriffin.comOur C2C vacation where we can meet you in real life and go on adventures together has 5 spots left!  Click here to go to the official booking page Misty's early youthWhy did Misty's father become Amish?Misty's father tries everything to keep her isolatedAmish homeschool educationThe neighborhood knew and did nothingMisty's dad was sabotaging herHow Misty adjusted to being a teen in one of the strictest Amish communities in the U.S.What it was like going from isolation to lots of siblingsNot knowing how to use money or a phone"The woman is the temptress"Amish protocols for handling CSA "The entire community was in on the plot"TW: CSAMisty couldn't report her ab*ser without being blamedSA, CSA (Misty catches the bishop with his daughter) This has got to stopTW:SA (Misty runs away during an ass*ult)Misty's neighbor drives her to the policeAmish are treated like a sovereign nationThere are 7 little ones still living in that houseMisty leaves the AmishPerps get a slap on the wrist in the AmishHow Misty adjusts to life outside the AmishMisty's motivation to speak outMisty finds herselfMisty's book makes an impactThe bishop's ch*ldren reach out to MistyDoes Misty feel like she got justice?TW: CSAWhy is ab*se so prevalent in Amish communities?What can be done to help Amish youth?Our Merch! Patreon: Patreon.com/cultstoconsciousnessVenmo @sheliseannAny donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcastWebsite CultsToConsciousness.comFind Shelise on Social media!Instagram @cultstoconsciousnessHost Instagram @sheliseannTikTok @cults.to.consciousnessTwitter @cultstoconTheme Song Produced and Composed by Christian Guevara**Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.**
*Content Warning: sexual assault, rape, prostitution, attempted murder* Due to lack of education when she left the strict Swartzentruber settlement, Naomi slipped into exotic dancing, prostitution, drugs, and almost getting murdered.  In this episode, she opens up about her trials and tribulations with growing up Amish, her dark reality afterward, and eventually finding the light at the end of the tunnel.Naomi’s book:  The Amazing Adventures of an Amish StripperFind and support Naomi:IG & TT:  @AmishInspiration https://www.instagram.com/AmishInspirationhttps://www.tiktok.com/@amishinspirationHow strict Swartzentruber Amish are raisedNaomi's exposure to the outside worldSwartzentruber Amish Purity CultureHow the Amish talk about pregnancyTW: SA, Rape Frequency in Amish CommunitiesTW: SA Correlation To Sex EducationSleeping In The Same Bed Before MarriageBuying English Panties For The First TimeThe Amish Time Of The MonthNaomi's relationship with her parentsWhen Naomi started to rebel / first sexual experienceNaomi decides to leave the settlementTW: ProstitutionNaomi moves states with her boyfriendNaomi finds ways to make moneyTW: Naomi's first exotic dancing experienceNaomi's Empowerment With Her SexualityDid Naomi feel like she had no other option than to dance?Naomi's first time with a woman and other "why not" momentsTW: Drugs, ProstitutionTW: Attempted murderNaomi moves to California and moves onNaomi decides to go to collegeNaomi's Experience With PolyamoryNaomi's Powerful StatementHow is Naomi doing now?Our Merch! Patreon: Patreon.com/cultstoconsciousnessVenmo @sheliseannAny donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcastWebsite CultsToConsciousness.comFind Shelise on Social media!Instagram @cultstoconsciousnessHost Instagram @sheliseannTikTok @cults.to.consciousnessTwitter @cultstoconTheme Song Produced and Composed by Christian Guevara**Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.**
*Content Warning: eating disorders, mentions of homophobia* In this follow up episode we’re going to continue with Oceana’s story growing up under the strict Institute in Basic Life Principles run by Bill Gothard who was recently exposed for preying on young girls.  She opens up about coming home from the IBLP training camps, her parents’ reaction, how it led to further untreated eating d*sorders, how all of the programming and IBLP culture permeated into her adult life, and how it’s still affecting her now. Oceana discussing becoming an exotic dancer, how she uncovered her s*xuality, understanding that she was gay, and how she was able to ultimately deprogram from the IBLP. Watch PT 1 with Oceana hereFind and Support OceanaYouTube: @oceana33 IG: @witchybishhh_TT: Ana.OceanaOur C2C vacation where we can meet you in real life and go on adventures together has 5 spots left!  Click here to go to the official booking page Young Oceana holding everything in and having night terrorsTW: Self harm. Did Oceana's parents notice what she was going through?TW: Ocean struggled with eating disordersOceana battling with eating disorders in her twentiesBill Gothard's Red Flags cause Oceana's family to leave the IBLPOceana's life after IBLPOceana started exotic dancing part timeTherapy and meditation has helped Oceana since leaving the IBLPOceana coming into her sexualityWhat brings Oceana peace nowOur Merch! Patreon: Patreon.com/cultstoconsciousnessVenmo @sheliseannAny donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcastWebsite CultsToConsciousness.comFind Shelise on Social media!Instagram @cultstoconsciousnessHost Instagram @sheliseannTikTok @cults.to.consciousnessTwitter @cultstoconTheme Song Produced and Composed by Christian Guevara**Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.**
*Content Warning: eating disorders, self harm* Further shedding light on the Institute in Basic Life Principles run by Bill Gothard who was recently exposed for preying on young girls, is Oceana who grew up living by their rules. Extreme patriarchy, silencing and sexualization of women and blaming those who are being hurt, are just a few things that create compounded trauma. Oceana fought through untreated eating d*sorders, because therapists were considered sinful, as well as the mental health struggles that came with the strict confines of the religious practices and IBLP training centers. Watch Pt 2 with Oceana hereFind and Support OceanaYouTube: @oceana33 Our C2C vacation where we can meet you in real life and go on adventures together has 6 spots left!  Click here to go to the official booking page The IBLP patriarchal rules that affected Oceana growing upGrowing up with 6 siblings, the older ones having to parenHow to Train Up book was used in Oceana's houseThe various punishments Oceana would receiveWhat it was like being home schooled under IBLP The homeschool Wisdom booklets are inaccurate, filled with brainwash and teach victim blamingThe case of JD and his predatory behaviorHow Oceana received much unwanted attention from men growing upTW: When her eating disorders startedSent to the IBLP training centerTW: Eating disorder being a sinProblematic conditions at the training centerTW: mentions of self harm & an eating disorderOur Merch! Patreon: Patreon.com/cultstoconsciousnessVenmo @sheliseannAny donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcastWebsite CultsToConsciousness.comFind Shelise on Social media!Instagram @cultstoconsciousnessHost Instagram @sheliseannTikTok @cults.to.consciousnessTwitter @cultstoconTheme Song Produced and Composed by Christian Guevara**Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.**
The Independent Fundamental Baptist church is known for having extreme views on “worldly” things. Women are over-sexualized to the point where even the very young are blamed and punished for “temping” men into hurting them. Kathy was one of those young women. Her pastor purposely protected the perp and she was ostracized by family, friends and other church members. Our previous episode with her (linked below) illustrates the awful details of her childhood. In this episode, we speak more on the blaming, shaming, and further victimization of other girls who sought justice. Watch Part 1 on YouTube Here: My IFB Youth Pastor Groomed Me. I Was Blamed.Watch her on the documentary called “Let Us Prey” on MaxFind and support KathyIG: @montanamom4 FB: Kathy Durbin Our C2C vacation where we can meet you in real life and go on adventures together has 5 spots left!  Click here to go to the official booking page Kathy was yelled at by the Pastor's wife for what he did to herThe Pastor asked young Kathy afterward if she was pregnantKathy was punished with choresChurch lawyers explain they are supporting the perpPastor Goddard manipulated everyone to cover it upKathy's sister's boyfriend took notes from Kathy's perpWhy IFB can be considered a cultKathy's BIL is suspiciously announced to be starting a churchMultiple women came forward with SA allegations against Kathy's BILHow Kathy was ostracized and picked on because of her abuseTW: thoughts of suicideKathy was completely alone in her strugglesTW: thoughts of suicide 30 yrs later, Goddard continues to lie and cover up Kathy's abuseHow Kathy emotionally handled her story being brought out againHer BIL pleading guilty- not that brightInvestigators had Kathy call her perp to get a confessionKathy gets some justice almost 30 years later!When did Kathy start to see the IFB for what it really was?The court gave no mercy to her abuserHow Kathy is doing nowFind and support Kathy!Our Merch! Patreon: Patreon.com/cultstoconsciousnessVenmo @sheliseannAny donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcastWebsite CultsToConsciousness.comFind Shelise on Social media!Instagram @cultstoconsciousnessHost Instagram @sheliseannTikTok @cults.to.consciousnessTwitter @cultstoconTheme Song Produced and Composed by Christian Guevara**Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.**
*Content Warning: child sex abuse, child abuse, rape, mentions of attempted suicide* When purity culture is front and center in a strict religious organization, youth are blamed for being preyed on by adults. It creates an unsafe environment for those who don’t understand boundaries, consent, grooming, or have any s*x education at all to even have proper vocabulary for what might be happening to them. Kathy Durbin explains this harmful culture and how she was ultimately a survivor of it. She also discusses her year long sentence in an IFB all girl’s home where extreme punishments were at times fatal. Click here to watch on YouTubeClick here to watch part 2 on YouTubeFind and support KathyIG: @montanamom4 FB: Kathy Durbin Our C2C vacation where we can meet you in real life and go on adventures together has 5 spots left!  Click here to go to the official booking page The rules of the IFB (Independent Fundamental Baptists)Does the IFB have a prophet?TW: SAPatterns and blaming women"Give all your money to God"Did Kathy recognize she was growing up differently than other youth?The slow indoctrination of becoming IFB at 11Expectations on young women in the IFBIFB goes to the extreme with being fear drivenWhy Kathy got sent to an IFB boarding schoolTW: SAAfter her exposing "intake" into the girl's school- assigned a "buddy"TW: mentions of attempted suic*deTW: F*tality- Forced manual laborForced to write letters that they would censorWhat happened when Kathy finally left the girl's homeThe IFB started their own school where Kathy was targetedKathy's father figure turned predatoryTW: indecent exposure to a minor & r*peKathy's father figure turned predatoryTW: indecent exposure to a minor & r*peThe youth pastor kept her around- took her to a pastor schoolTW: r*peCalled in by the head pastor GoddardKathy was blamed and shamed for what happened to herNo matter the age, girls and women are always blamed for SALinda, ListenWhat the next episode holdsKathy was blamed and shamed for what happened to herOur Merch! Patreon: Patreon.com/cultstoconsciousnessVenmo @sheliseannAny donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcastWebsite CultsToConsciousness.comFind Shelise on Social media!Instagram @cultstoconsciousnessHost Instagram @sheliseannTikTok @cults.to.consciousnessTwitter @cultstoconTheme Song Produced and Composed by Christian Guevara**Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.**
The cult doc “Let Us Prey” on HBO, highlights the issues within the high control religious group Independent Fundamental Baptist, of which Eric was a part of. From the covering up of predatory behavior of the leaders, to extreme patriarchal control which blames victims and breeds perpetrators, Eric walks us through what his life was like being isolated in this group until his adult years. Which eventually led him and his wife to belong to another cult like group!Watch this episode on YouTube hereWatch Shelise's interview on Preacher Boys channel here:Find and support Eric!Website: preacherboyspodcast.comYouTube: @PreacherBoysFB: https://www.facebook.com/preacherboysdoc/IG: @preacherboysdoc TikTok: @preacherboyspodOur C2C vacation where we can meet you in real life and go on adventures together has 5 spots left!  Click here to go to the official booking page Overview of IFB & its rulesHow purity culture negatively affects boys/men tooModesty as a subjective topicDating or not in the IFB?What Eric's education was like at the IFB schoolHow other churches were brought up in discussion while in IFBSimilarities with IFB and MormonismReligious studies injected in schoolBible class and the Christian flagEric choose filmmaking for God over Bible collegeEric's faith was shaken because of a predatorEric's wife's feelings at the timeEric left one cult and found himself in another situationThe last time Eric was part of the churchDealing with hard topics on Eric's podcast - Preacher BoysOur Merch! Patreon: Patreon.com/cultstoconsciousnessVenmo @sheliseannAny donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcastWebsite CultsToConsciousness.comFind Shelise on Social media!Instagram @cultstoconsciousnessHost Instagram @sheliseannTikTok @cults.to.consciousnessTwitter @cultstoconTheme Song Produced and Composed by Christian Guevara**Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.**
*Content Warning: rape and sexual assault* Yoga instructor Larissa Anderson took yoga “guru” Bikram Choudhury to court for s*xual assault and blacklisting her yoga business after Larissa rejected a s*xual advance by Bikram (who had r*ped her before).  He refused to promote her studio and she was blacklisted from the Bikram Yoga community.At the time of the s*xual assault, Bikram had already personally approved her studio down to the floor plan and knew that Larissa had begun negotiating a lease, retained a contractor and took out thousands of dollars in debt to open the studio.  Larissa recounts the events that led to this court case, and the odd things that happened after. Watch the 1st part of Larissa’s interview here:  Falling Prey to BIKRAM: Yoga Guru, Founder, PredatorWatch this episode on YouTube hereCatch the full story of Bikram, featuring Larissa, in the 2019 documentary “Birkram: Yogi, Guru, Predator”    Find Larissa on SocialIG: @yoginilarissahttps://www.instagram.com/yoginilarissa/Our C2C vacation where we can meet you in real life and go on adventures together has 5 spots left!  Click here to go to the official booking page https://trovatrip.com/trip/central-america/costa-rica/costa-rica-with-shelise-sola-aug-2024TW:  Larissa is raped by BikramLarissa wanted to open up her own yoga studio, and has to go through BikramTW:  Bikram assaults and attempts to rape Larissa again in a hotel roomHaving to teach a class of 500 in extreme heat and no sleepLarissa worries she may lose her studio after not giving in to Bikram's advancesLarissa reads about another survivor and decides to come forward publiclyLarissa received backlash on social media from the cult members for speaking outLarissa ends up settling in courtBikram sends a spy to Larissa's studio, she fears for her lifeAfter everything, Bikram called LarissaThe hold that cults have on you even after you escapeEnjoying the yoga practice (without the cult)What brings Larissa joy now?Our Merch! Patreon: Patreon.com/cultstoconsciousnessVenmo @sheliseannAny donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcastWebsite CultsToConsciousness.comFind Shelise on Social media!Instagram @cultstoconsciousnessHost Instagram @sheliseannTikTok @cults.to.consciousnessTwitter @cultstoconTheme Song Produced and Composed by Christian Guevara**Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.**
“Guru” Bikram was responsible for bringing hot yoga to the states and popularizing it. Without realizing, Larissa Anderson was slowly groomed by her then boyfriend and yoga studio owner to seamlessly fall right into Bikram’s hands. He would eventually request massages from Larissa in front of hundreds of students and get more and more bold when they were alone together.Larissa underwent the intense 9 week bootcamp-style training to become an official  Bikram yoga teacher so that she could eventually open her own yoga studio.  Along with many other students, she endured ridicule from him, in the name of toughing up and being indestructible, and was later assaulted and r*ped by Bikram.  Larissa explains the depths of her grooming and brainwashing as she descended into the cult of this Guru-narcissist.Click here to watch on YouTubeClick here to watch part 2 on YouTube Catch the full story of Bikram, featuring Larissa, in the 2019 documentary “Bikram: Yogi, Guru, Predator”    Find Larissa on SocialIG: @yoginilarissaOur C2C vacation where we can meet you in real life and go on adventures together has 5 spots left!  Click here to go to the official booking page Who is Bikram?How Larissa was groomed into going to teacher trainingLarissa gets chosen to go to teacher training (has to pay a lot)Larissa's boyfriend at the time helped groom her for BikramBikram would call out Larissa in front of class to massage himWhat Larissa was made to do during the harsh teacher trainingBikram would ridcule his studentsWhat set Bikram apart?  Why did people follow him?What led to Larissa getting blacklisted by BikramLarissa hears Bikram calling to her telepathicallyLarissa goes back to BikramOur Merch! Patreon: Patreon.com/cultstoconsciousnessVenmo @sheliseannAny donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcastWebsite CultsToConsciousness.comFind Shelise on Social media!Instagram @cultstoconsciousnessHost Instagram @sheliseannTikTok @cults.to.consciousnessTwitter @cultstoconTheme Song Produced and Composed by Christian Guevara**Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.**
First, there was Guru Bhajan. A self proclaimed master of what he called Kundalini Yoga. Later known as an ab*ser on every level, he died and left a gaping hole in the Western market for the next “master” to step in as a celebrity Guru. Enter Guru Jagat. A charismatic female leader who started her own school, attracting young, enthusiastic millennials who wore all white with turbans to her classes. Filled with promises of enlightenment, abundance and more, one of her followers, Charlotte, became a very important employee of Jagat’s. Sleep deprived, over worked and underpaid, she slowly spiraled out and lost all sense of her original identity.Click here to watch on YouTube Find Charlotte on SocialTikTok: @charlotte.medlockInstagram: @charlottesface Our C2C vacation where we can meet you in real life and go on adventures together has 5 spots left!  Click here to go to the official booking page Guru Jagat, Yogi Bhajan, and Kundalini YogaHow Charlotte met Guru Jagat aka Katie GriggsThe techniques learned in Kundalini yogaThe money printing meditationCharlotte wanted to work for Guru JagatCharlotte started working full time for Guru Jagat for cheapWas Guru Jagat working with celebs and making a lot?The point it all started unravelingDid Charlotte feel like she was growing?What the work environment was like with the co workersWhat led to Charlotte quittingGuru Jagat giving Charlotte validationCharlotte was ostracized from family and friendsThe culty things that started to wake Charlotte upHow is Charlotte now that she's reset?Guru Jagat passed awayCharlotte's "consciousness" nowOur Merch! Patreon: Patreon.com/cultstoconsciousnessVenmo @sheliseannAny donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcastWebsite CultsToConsciousness.comFind Shelise on Social media!Instagram @cultstoconsciousnessHost Instagram @sheliseannTikTok @cults.to.consciousnessTwitter @cultstoconTheme Song Produced and Composed by Christian Guevara**Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.**
Is Mormonism a cult?  Jubilee’s “Middleground” had on a panel of current believing Mormons and ex-Mormons to debate this and other nuanced topics.  Join us, along with one of the ex-Mormon panelists, Dr. John Dehlin of  @mormonstories as we dive deeper into some of the more “cringeworthy” responses, and un-aired behind the scenes details, to decide who really won.Click here to watch this episode & see on screen photosCheck out Jublilee's "Can Mormons and Ex Mormons See Eye to Eye? | Middle Ground" video hereWatch Mormon Stories' reaction to Jubliee's video:"Jubilee's “Mormons vs Ex-Mormons” on Middle Ground - Ex-Mormon Cast Reacts | Ep. 186"Check out Nuancehoe's reaction to Jublilee's video:Mormons BOMB In Cringeworthy Debate | ExMo Jubilee ReactionOur interview with Nuancehoe and Dillan (from this Jublilee debate) hereA deeper dive of Dillan’s story on Nuancehoe’s channel hereFind John Dehlin on social media!YT  @mormonstories IG: @mormstoriesOur C2C vacation where we can meet you in real life and go on adventures together has 5 spots left!  Click here to go to the official booking page Is Mormonism a cult?Does John feel the Ex Mormon side won the entire debate?Were the panelists given the prompts beforehand?Is masturbation a sin?Does a Mormon have to tell their bishop every time they masturbate?Are women and men equal in the church?Is it okay for the doctrine to change?Has the Mormon church done good in the world?Footage John wishes made the cutOur Merch! Patreon: Patreon.com/cultstoconsciousnessVenmo @sheliseannAny donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcastWebsite CultsToConsciousness.comFind Shelise on Social media!Instagram @cultstoconsciousnessHost Instagram @sheliseannTikTok @cults.to.consciousnessTwitter @cultstoconTheme Song Produced and Composed by Christian Guevara**Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.**
Harvard graduate Joelle Tamraz, was young, enthusiastic and a perfect target for a fake yoga guru. Seeking enlightenment, purpose and peace, she came across a man who swept her off her feet and used spiritual manipulation to eventually exploit her and her family out of thousands of dollars. He told wild stories of channelling and inhabiting someone else’s body to justify cheating right in front of her face. Find out how after 18 years, despite having built a yoga studio together, she was able to see through it all and escape his clutches. IG: @joelletamraz X / LinkedIn / TikTok: @joelletamrazFB: www.facebook.com/joelletamraz1/Book: The Secret Practice: Eighteen Years on the Dark Side of Yoga: A MemoirWebsite: https://joelletamraz.com/YouTube: @elevatingvoicesOur C2C vacation where we can meet you in real life and go on adventures together has 5 spots left!  Click here to go to the official booking page https://trovatrip.com/trip/central-america/costa-rica/costa-rica-with-shelise-sola-aug-2024 Meeting the Arun right after graduating from HarvardYogic Flying, explainedWhat it was like meeting this "Guru" and falling under his spellHow Joelle was groomed by ArunWhy Arun focused in on JoelleThe long con in Arun trying to create a haremJoelle married Arun not knowing about his criminal recordJoelle's mom gets targeted tooLove-bombed and manipulatedArun pit Joelle against her parentsArun's manipulation tacticsArun explains why original yoga practices were for men Arun claimed to be 180 years old, now in a new body, and married with 5 kidsArun sealed Joelle to himArun would "channel" spiritsArun starts heavy drinking to "save the life" of Joelle's fatherArun declared he would never work again (and live off of Joelle)How Arun was using "channeling" to manipulate Joelle and othersJoelle regains her powerJoelle realizing she had been conned for 18 yearsWhat happened to Arun?How Joelle is doing nowOur Merch! Patreon: Patreon.com/cultstoconsciousnessVenmo @sheliseannAny donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcastWebsite CultsToConsciousness.comFind Shelise on Social media!Instagram @cultstoconsciousnessHost Instagram @sheliseannTikTok @cults.to.consciousnessTwitter @cultstoconTheme Song Produced and Composed by Christian Guevara**Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.**
Ben John:  "As a beginner entrepreneur/business owner in 2019, I was introduced to a book by Grant Cardone(The 10X Rule) that lured me into mentorship from him. After 3.5 years and $250k spent with Grant & his organization, I realized that I had ignored all the signs in that environment that encouraged me to idolize Grant as a God, seek him for success, disconnect with those who don’t align with him or me, chase money, deceive, & manipulate others to get what I want. I later found that Grant is being operated by the church of Scientology and after looking into that myself, it made sense why he treats people badly & why he teaches entrepreneurs to unethically scale their business.I have been publicly speaking about this consistently so that people can be aware of not only Grant, but ALL self serving entrepreneurs who prey on people’s fears to manipulate them & teach them how to deceive others. I’ve done it regularly on my instagram/FB page, Instagram lives, & interviews."Links to Ben’s book, “Misguided Mentor” and businesses on his instagram pageIG: @benjaminjohnmicFB:  Ben’s Massive ImpactOur C2C vacation where we can meet you in real life and go on adventures together has 5 spots left!  Click here to go to the official booking page Who is Cardone?Why Ben was attracted to this self help groupWhy Cardone stood out to BenCult leaders and sales menWhat it was like going to Cardone's seminarsIgnoring the red flagsWhen Ben started to notice himself changeDid Ben find the info useful?Did Ben have any buyer's remorse?What Cardone was like in personDoes Ben think Cardone was giving his money to Scientology?The similarities between Cardone's Program and ScientologyThe group wanting others to distance themselves from BenBreaking members down and calling it "care"When Ben realized he needed to get outCardone being used for this influence by ScientologyThe rise of finance gurus during the fear of 2020 Did Ben convert anyone at the time?How Ben got his daughter involvedBen's relationship with his fatherHow Ben is doing nowOur Merch! Patreon: Patreon.com/cultstoconsciousnessVenmo @sheliseannAny donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcastWebsite CultsToConsciousness.comFind Shelise on Social media!Instagram @cultstoconsciousnessHost Instagram @sheliseannTikTok @cults.to.consciousnessTwitter @cultstoconTheme Song Produced and Composed by Christian Guevara**Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.**
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (LDS or Mormon Church), has long been known for their secret temple rituals that only the worthy saints can participate in. Shelise grew up in this mainstream Mormon Church, learning that going to the temple was the ultimate goal, that if she could only be worthy enough, she might even get to see Jesus himself walking the halls. The picture that is painted to it’s members (because NOTHING is disclosed ahead of time) is vastly different than what actually happens when you finally get to go. Shelise’s mom Lisa, describes the ultra secret temple rituals that happen inside the tall, castle-like walls.How I Got My Mom to Leave MormonismDoes My Mom Regret Leaving Mormonism? Official church website on temple marriage changesFind Lisa on SocialIG @spiritofottertail Our C2C vacation where we can meet you in real life and go on adventures together has 6 spots left!  Click here to go to the official booking page Quick explanation of the Mormon templeThe LDS church didn't approve of Lisa's partner choiceHow Lisa felt being denied a temple marriage Worthiness requirements to go to the templeA flip flopping bishop on Lisa's worthinessYou're given a new nameWhat actually goes on in the temple? Signs, symbols and tokensWhat happened when Lisa's friend forgot the new nameRole playing getting let into heaven through the veil with codeDoing work for the deadShelise talks about doing baptisms for the deadShelise's awkward first kiss storyThey say Jesus literally walks the hallsLisa wouldn't have gone if she knew what went on in thereTOP SECRET Mormon ritual- The Second AnointingNaked poncho touching/anointingShelise learns something shocking about Lisa's intent!Our Merch! Patreon: Patreon.com/cultstoconsciousnessVenmo @sheliseannAny donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcastWebsite CultsToConsciousness.comFind Shelise on Social media!Instagram @cultstoconsciousnessHost Instagram @sheliseannTikTok @cults.to.consciousnessTwitter @cultstoconTheme Song Produced and Composed by Christian Guevara**Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.**
Celia was a daughter of the cult leader Ervil LeBaron, who practiced a fundamentalist Mormon teaching called Blood Atonement which meant taking lives in the name of God. Things got even more out of control when he was put in prison for his crimes and a hit list he created was beginning to be carried out by some of his younger followers. Thankfully, the practice of blood atonement, by way of the LeBarons has been disavowed today, but the effects of these tragic teachings still linger in the lives of those who were affected by it. Celia describes what her life was like, growing up as a LeBaron on the run. IG: @CKLeBaron Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/cklebaronHer sister Anna’s Memoir:  The Polygamist’s Daughter: A Memoir Annas IG: @AnnaKLeBaron Hulu Documentary: Daughters of the Cult Resources for leaving Polygamy & volunteer opportunitiesShort Creek Dream Center: https://www.shortcreekdreamcenter.org/Holding Out Help: https://holdingouthelp.org/Our C2C vacation where we can meet you in real life and go on adventures together has 6 spots left!  Click here to go to the official booking page Celia's feelings after the documentary releasedThe LeBarons no longer practice blood atonementCelia was born on a kitchen tableHow they practiced PolygamyNo belongings because of constant movingCelia's experience learning about MormonismCelia went on a mission to convert mainstream LDS to fundamentalist LDSTW: mentions of murder- Indoctrinating kids to be ok with blood atonementErvil stole Celia's mom from her first husbandWere original temple rituals practiced in the LeBaron group?Did Celia have any sort of relationship with her father, Ervil?TW: Murder-Ervil put a hit on his pregnant daughter- Celia's perspectiveTheir scary living situation in Bakersfield, CACelia confronted her mother about the neglectCelia was put to work at a very young age in dangerous conditionsTW: Abuse- An unexpected harsh punishmentSent home from her mission- her shelf crackingHow Celia is doing nowOur Merch! Patreon: Patreon.com/cultstoconsciousnessVenmo @sheliseannAny donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcastWebsite CultsToConsciousness.comFind Shelise on Social media!Instagram @cultstoconsciousnessHost Instagram @sheliseannTikTok @cults.to.consciousnessTwitter @cultstoconTheme Song Produced and Composed by Christian Guevara**Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.**
Polygamist, Fundamentalist Mormon (FLDS) leader, Warren Jeffs, is currently serving a life sentence in prison for CSA which he claims was revelation from God. He currently still has a few thousand members of his church who believe he was wrongly convicted and completely innocent. A man God being”persecuted” because he’s a true prophet, they would say. Years and years have gone by and he continues to give dangerous "revelations" to his followers including telling his own daughters to stop eating. Find out what else he is saying or commanding from prison with this exclusive insider information given to us by the amazing husband and wife team Sam and Melissa from   @GrowingUpinPolygamy Watch the episode we did on their channel hereYouTube: @growingupinpolygamyWebsite: https://www.growingupinpolygamy.com/Instagram: @growing_up_in_polygamyEmail: growingupinpolygamy@gmail.comResources for leaving Polygamy & volunteer opportunitiesIf you or someone you love has left polygamy and needs assistance, please reach out to "Holding Out HELP" at 801-548-3492 or visit their website at www.holdingouthelp.orgShort Creek Dream Center: https://www.shortcreekdreamcenter.org/Our C2C vacation where we can meet you in real life and go on adventures together has 6 spots left!  Click here to go to the official booking page Our Merch! Patreon: Patreon.com/cultstoconsciousnessVenmo @sheliseannAny donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcastWebsite CultsToConsciousness.comFind Shelise on Social media!Instagram @cultstoconsciousnessHost Instagram @sheliseannTikTok @cults.to.consciousnessTwitter @cultstoconTheme Song Produced and Composed by Christian Guevara**Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.**
Narrowly escaping out of her window where she was held prisoner, Briell, the 65th wife of FLDS cult leader Warren Jeffs, continued to be on the run from her family who wanted to k*ll her. Warren was in prison and he knew she would testify against him, so he ordered people to take her down. After years of seeking safety and peace of mind, she returned to the hometown of the cult and was able to claim Warren’s 45 bedroom mansion. This is what she decided to do with it…Watch pt 1 with Briel hereFind Briell on social media!Website: https://www.brielldecker.com/IG: @BriellDeckerFacebook:  Briell Decker Blanchart Resources for leaving Polygamy & volunteer opportunitiesShort Creek Dream Center: https://www.shortcreekdreamcenter.org/Holding Out Help: https://holdingouthelp.org/Our C2C vacation where we can meet you in real life and go on adventures together has 6 spots left!  Click here to go to the official booking page Briell's brother was told to lock her up in solitary confinementBriell's escapeBriell went to her first shelterBriell's family hunts her downBriell started having psychosis spellsThe trials of reacquainting with life after the escapeBriell gets adopted as an adult, and changes her nameBriell finds out about the Warren Jeffs houseBriell re-marriesBriell gives the mansion she was awarded to the recovery Dream CenterWhat it's like for Briell living in the same place where everything happenedHow is Briell's mental state working at the center that used to be Jeffs' home?Briell’s coping mechanism strategiesWhat brings Briell peace nowOur Merch! Patreon: Patreon.com/cultstoconsciousnessVenmo @sheliseannAny donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcastWebsite CultsToConsciousness.comFind Shelise on Social media!Instagram @cultstoconsciousnessHost Instagram @sheliseannTikTok @cults.to.consciousnessTwitter @cultstoconTheme Song Produced and Composed by Christian Guevara**Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.**
**TW:  CSA, Suicide, threats of murder** Born into the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (FLDS/Mormon), Briell was groomed at a very early age to one day become a plural wife to the prophet Warren Jeffs. Her parents wept when they found out the prophet’s plans, but had no choice but to give her, at 18, to the over 50 year old man as his 65th wife. When Briell saw what Warren was doing with his 12 year old wives in Texas, she was mortified and resisted Warren’s attention to which she would be severely punished for. Watch pt 2 with Briell hereDocumentary: Prisoner of the Prophet (HBO & Discovery +)Find Briell on social media!Website: https://www.brielldecker.com/IG: @BriellDecker Facebook:  Briell Decker Blanchart  Resources for leaving Polygamy & volunteer opportunitiesShort Creek Dream Center: https://www.shortcreekdreamcenter.org/Holding Out Help: https://holdingouthelp.org/Our C2C vacation where we can meet you in real life and go on adventures together has 6 spots left!  Click here to go to the official booking page The difference between Mormonism and Warren Jeffs' FLDSWhat it was like for Briell when power shifted from Rulon to WarrenWhen Briell married WarrenWarren taking over Rulon's wives without the wives' consentStill practicing Blood AtonementOn the way to get married to WarrenWarren asked Briell if she had any revelations from God after they marriedBriell didn't have proper sex educationDuring the marriage ceremony Briell was terrified of WarrenWhat Warren revealed to his wives during a secret meetingWhat was happening at the Texas compound Warren builtThe clothes Briell was forced to wearHow Warren Jeffs tricked his wivesBriell filling a case against WarrenBriell kept escaping, only to be brought backTW: threats of murderBriell transferring to her brother's homeOur Merch! Patreon: Patreon.com/cultstoconsciousnessVenmo @sheliseannAny donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcastWebsite CultsToConsciousness.comFind Shelise on Social media!Instagram @cultstoconsciousnessHost Instagram @sheliseannTikTok @cults.to.consciousnessTwitter @cultstoconTheme Song Produced and Composed by Christian Guevara**Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.**
As seen in the new and popular Hulu documentary “Daughters of the Cult”, Anna LeBaron shares with us stories the documentary missed as well as some additional details to her story as Ervil LeBaron’s daughter. We discuss blood atonement, her childhood being moved from place to place with little money for food, shelter or clothing among the plural wives and their kids, as well as conspiracy theories for how her father Ervil actually died in prison.Book: The Polygamist’s Daughter: A MemoirIG: @AnnaKLeBaronCelia IG: @CKLeBaronHyrum IG: @hyrumlebaronHulu Documentary: Daughters of the CultOur C2C vacation where we can meet you in real life and go on adventures together has 6 spots left!  Click here to go to the official booking page Chapter Markers:Anna's book "The Polygamist's Daughter"Brief overview of the fundamentalist Mormon break off How her relations go back to Joseph Smith!Her father, Ervil, took out a competing leaderNone of Ervil's descendants still believe in blood atonement or his teachingsSomething the documentary missedAnna's early memories as a child & meeting her fatherThey loved the safety and security of schoolThey learned things about each other during filmingWhat was Anna's experience with the Fundamentalist Mormon theology?Did Anna also get militia training?How young Anna was when she started working full time in a warehouseWhat was going on around the time Anna decided to escape?Remembering not to compare traumaAnna's theory about how her father died in prisonAnna makes the decision to escapeHow Anna could survive after running awayAnna discovers that she was in a cult as a teenTriggering moments that led Anna to seek therapyHow Anna is doing nowOur Merch! Patreon: Patreon.com/cultstoconsciousnessVenmo @sheliseannAny donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcastWebsite CultsToConsciousness.comFind Shelise on Social media!Instagram @cultstoconsciousnessHost Instagram @sheliseannTikTok @cults.to.consciousnessTwitter @cultstoconTheme Song Produced and Composed by Christian Guevara**Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.**
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Daniel Cole

you're mom is a You're beautiful. women wow

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Daniel Cole

I am so glad I'm atheist And I'm glad I've been this way since I was about 11. And my parents never made me go to church. I think the universe Proud to be atheist.

Apr 3rd
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stephanie kendell

can't hear the person you're interviewing

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