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 ‘I do this with passion. I like to work hard’. Guenther Steiner, Haas’ straight-talking Team Principal, has had plenty of hard work to do this year. From finding a new driver on the eve of the 2022 season, to replacing Mick Schumacher with Nico Hulkenberg for 2023, Steiner has made big calls to help Haas make big moves. In great detail, he talks Tom Clarkson through his decisions, and how they’ll drive the team towards its goals. Guenther also gives his views on his fame, management style and even his merchandise. Plus insight into how F1’s smallest team go about their business, memories of an historic pole position in Brazil and reflections on Romain Grosjean’s Bahrain crash. Related episodes: Kevin Magnussen  Mick Schumacher  Nico Hulkenberg Guenther’s first BTG interview  This episode is sponsored by:  SmartNews: Download SmartNews for free today in the app store to get the news that matters most. Search for it in the Apple App store for your iPhone or iPad, or Google Play store for Android users. Babbel: go to, and use promo code GRID for an extra six months free.
‘I’ve thought about this so much, and it feels so right’. Sebastian Vettel is ready to say farewell to Formula 1. In a final in-depth interview with Tom Clarkson, Sebastian looks back at his entire F1 career: how he dealt with winning and losing, his rivalries and friendships with champions and teammates, and the races and moments that shaped him. He explains how ‘feeling loved’ fuelled his success, and what he’ll miss about life in F1. Sebastian also looks ahead – beyond his final chequered flag in Abu Dhabi - to what’s around the next corner. Follow, rate and review F1 Beyond The Grid on your podcast app. Share your thoughts on this episode and your memories of Sebastian Vettel’s F1 career using #F1BeyondTheGrid. Scroll through the BTG back catalogue for more interviews with stars from every era of Formula 1. Related episodes: Sebastian Vettel on Ferrari  Charles Leclerc  Kimi Raikkonen  Fernando Alonso  Mick Schumacher Mark Webber Lewis Hamilton This episode is sponsored by:  Babbel: right now, Babbel is offering our listeners six months free with a purchase of a 6-month subscription, go to and use promo code GRID Shopify: sign up for a FREE trial at and start selling online today 
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F1 was her ‘goal’ once upon a time, but she made history in IndyCar and NASCAR. Danica Patrick’s early racing career followed the course of so many F1 stars: karting championships, a teenage move to Europe, an impressive result at the prestigious Formula Ford Festival, and meetings with former F1 champions and team bosses. But it was back in the US that made her mark on motorsport, winning in IndyCar and leading the Indy500. Was racing in F1 ever a possibility? Danica tells Tom Clarkson about her life in racing: why oval racing differs from road course driving, how team orders may have denied her more success, and how she feels about Formula 1 today. Related episodes: Bobby Rahal – IndyCar + F1 driver, Danica’s former team boss NASCAR champion Jeff Gordon Susie Wolff This episode is sponsored by:  LinkedIn Jobs: find the qualified candidates you want to talk to, faster. Post your job for free at ExpressVPN: go to today and get an extra three months free on a one-year package Rocket Money: get rid of useless subscriptions with Rocket Money now. Go to Seriously, it could save you HUNDREDS per year
 A chapter is closing, but Nicholas Latifi is ready to open up. In three difficult F1 seasons, the Canadian has dealt with defeats, disappointment and being dropped by Williams. As he prepares to leave the sport at the end of 2022, Nicholas tells Tom Clarkson about the challenges and frustrations he continues to face.  In deep detail, he explains why he struggles to show his speed on the racetrack, how his ‘weaknesses’ behind the wheel have been ‘exposed’, and why he’s often unable to match the achievements of his teammates. He’s quick to praise George Russell, Alex Albon and Nyck De Vries, his one-time teammate and former F2 championship rival, as well as his Williams team for supporting him. He points to performances he’s proud of which sometimes passed unnoticed and remembers times he came close to impressive results. Now, Nicholas is looking to his future. He reveals what’s driving his decision on where to continue his race. Related episodes: Alex Albon  George Russell Nyck De Vries Jost Capito, Williams CEO This episode is sponsored by:  Rocket Money: get rid of useless subscriptions with Rocket Money now. Go to It could save you HUNDREDS per year. Santander: CountdownToZero is a global competition for startups and scale ups looking for solutions that help the motor sport world become a more sustainable place. Ideas improving logistics or transport within the sport, projects aimed Net Zero mobility or that help offset the carbon footprint.  Check out the winners at
His time in F1 was brief and ‘brutal’, but he learned lessons he’s passing on to his son. Jan Magnussen, father of Haas driver Kevin, arrived in Formula 1 in the mid-1990s feeling unbeatable. His confidence came from a stunning championship-winning season in British Formula 3, in which he broke records set by the great Ayrton Senna. F1 broke that confidence. ‘I don’t think I understood the enormity of the task’ Jan tells Tom Clarkson as he honestly looks back on a difficult time with McLaren and Stewart Grand Prix. Did the early success which launched him into F1 have a downside? Did a ‘driving lesson’ from triple World Champion team boss Jackie Stewart do more harm than good? Jan remembers his sudden F1 exit, and how he rediscovered his love of racing. Today, he shares that love and the wisdom of his experience with Kevin as his father, sportscar teammate and mentor. Related episodes: Kevin Magnussen on his ‘no fear’ F1 comeback.
In September 2022, Nyck De Vries got a golden opportunity. A surprise F1 debut. He knew it was a chance to change his life. His remarkable top 10 finish was just step one of his mission. In an exclusive in-depth interview, Nyck tells Tom Clarkson what he did next: the phone calls, flights, meetings and deals which have made him a 2023 AlphaTauri Formula 1 driver. He explains how advice from his friend Max Verstappen, dinners with an F1 star-maker, a personal approach to negotiations and a decision to move away from Mercedes were so important. With championship-winning speed developed in Formula 2 and Formula E, experience driving several F1 cars and a wealth of racing knowledge to draw on, F1’s newest driver is ready for his next big opportunity. Related episodes Nyck’s 2023 AlphaTauri teammate, Yuki Tsunoda  AlphaTauri Team Principal, Franz Tost  Nyck’s fellow Formula 2 champions: George Russell  Charles Leclerc Mick Schumacher This episode is sponsored by: BetterHelp: visit today to get 10% off your first month MSC Cruises: book your unforgettable cruise vacation at Liquid IV: get 15% off when you go to and use code GRID at checkout
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Whether he’s behind the wheel of an F1 car or analysing the action for millions on TV, Karun Chandhok is driven by his passion for racing. His love for the sport grew during his childhood in India, and it remains strong despite his frustrating time in F1, where he repeatedly defied the odds. With little money to rely on and few racing opportunities at home, Karun set out on a path which took him to Europe. GP2 wins led to a Red Bull test and a spot on the F1 grid with a brand new team in 2010.  Karun tells Tom Clarkson the astonishing story of his Grand Prix debut and the struggle to even start his first race. He reflects on the deals and behind-the-scenes events at Hispania and Lotus which changed the course of his career. He sums up the experience of driving some of F1’s most legendary cars, including the ‘scary’ one, and the one that he feels is ‘a bit too perfect’. Plus, Karun explains how his love for F1 is fuelling his current work as a broadcaster, racetrack design consultant and grassroots motorsport advocate. This episode is sponsored by:  Shopify: sign up for a FREE trial at LinkedIn Jobs: find the qualified candidates you want to talk to, faster. Post your job for free at
As soon as the 2022 Mercedes F1 car hit the racetrack, the man who oversaw its creation realised it had problems. ‘We made a mistake’, admits Technical Director Mike Elliot. In finding fixes, Mike and his team of engineers have improved Mercedes’ results and learned a lot about themselves. Mike tells Tom Clarkson how they traced the car’s problems to a single design decision, how a year of not winning has helped the people at  Mercedes develop, and how he craves a return to the team’s championship-winning form. Looking back, Mike remembers why he chose a career in F1, and the remarkable day two top teams offered him a role. That led him to work in aerodynamics for McLaren, and he recalls a surprising early conversation he had with the team’s young test driver, Lewis Hamilton. McLaren’s former leader Ron Dennis, legendary car designer Adrian Newey, Mercedes boss Toto Wolff and drivers Michael Schumacher, Nico Rosberg and George Russell also feature in Mike’s story. He explains how F1 engineering has become ‘more specialised’ and has advice for anyone who aspires to work in F1 car design. More BTG interviews with F1 Technical Directors: AlphaTauri’s Jody Egginton  McLaren’s James Key  Alpine’s Pat Fry James Allison, former Mercedes TD This episode is sponsored by:  ExpressVPN: secure your online activity by visiting TODAY and get an extra three months FREE
He’s a survivor, who fought back from a crash which could have broken his spirit. Martin Donnelly’s racing career was cut short at the 1990 Spanish Grand Prix, when his Lotus left the track and hit a barrier at 160 miles per hour, throwing him from the car. Martin tells Tom Clarkson his memories of that fateful weekend, and the great lengths he went to as he tried to return to racing – including treatment from the doctor who had helped Niki Lauda after the Austrian’s life-changing crash. He reflects on his close friendship with Ayrton Senna, who rushed to the scene that day in Spain, and on his brotherhood with fellow racing drivers like Damon Hill and Johnny Herbert, alongside whom he rose to Formula 1. Support from his father and deals with shrewd team owner Eddie Jordan shaped his career. His time at the top of motorsport was short-lived, his potential never fully realised, but Martin never stopped racing. Related episodes: Eddie Jordan Damon Hill  Tommy Byrne Johnny Herbert  Derek Warwick This episode is sponsored by:  DoorDash: use code GRID for 50% off your first order with DoorDash. Subject to change, terms apply. Emma Sleep: save 5% on top on all offers at
It’s been a dramatic year for Red Bull Racing, from the titanic battle Max Verstappen fought with Lewis Hamilton and Mercedes for the 2021 title, to setting up their own power unit arm, before taking a commanding lead in both championships this season – with a flirtation with Porsche thrown in for good measure. Team boss Christian Horner tells host Tom Clarkson all about that incredible 2021 title fight from Red Bull’s perspective, including his thoughts on rival team boss Toto Wolff, and that intense Abu Dhabi season finale. He also reflects on whether Verstappen approaches racing Charles Leclerc differently to how he takes on Hamilton, what he makes of Daniel Ricciardo’s early McLaren exit, and why Red Bull decided now was the right time to set up their own engine division. Plus he reveals what happened to the proposed Porsche partnership, touches on some of the company’s non-F1 projects – including designing a submarine – as well as how it feels to have led the team back to the brink of championship glory once again. Related episodes: Christian Horner in 2021 and 2018 Sergio Perez This episode is sponsored by:  Babbel: go to and use promo code GRID for an extra six months free LinkedIn Jobs: post your job for free at DoorDash: for a limited time, our listeners can get 50% off and zero delivery fees on their first order of $15 or more, when you download the DoorDash app and enter code GRID
He was part of one of F1’s most dramatic finales, but there’s so much more to Timo Glock’s story than that rain-soaked lap in Brazil. A relative late-comer to racing, he quickly showed speed, made smart sponsorship deals and caught the attention of F1 teams. Timo tells Tom Clarkson about the surprise phone call which led to his points-scoring Grand Prix debut, the disappointment of dropping out of the sport, the moment he felt it was ‘game over’ for his racing career, and an all-or-nothing season which gave him a second chance at F1. With Toyota in 2008 and 2009, Timo scored podiums which proved he was worthy of a race-winning car. He reveals how agonisingly close he came to a career-transforming move in a pivotal period at the end of 2009, only to find himself racing at the back of the grid in 2010. Plus, his friendship with the Schumachers, the moment lawyers decided his F1 future and that final lap in Brazil in 2008: the ‘impossible’ action, the crazy reaction and an unlikely friendship that followed, ten years in the making.   This episode is sponsored by:  Shopify: sign up for a FREE fourteen-day trial at BetterHelp: when you want to be a better problem solver, therapy can get you there. Visit today to get 10% off your first month
He’s a Zandvoort ‘beach boy’, who became a local hero in F1. Racing in the Dutch Grand Prix was a dream come true for Jan Lammers, but he struggled to show his speed in Formula 1 and dropped out of the sport after 4 difficult seasons. He was always determined to return to motorsport’s pinnacle and waited a record 10 years for his chance. Jan tells Tom Clarkson about his rise from junior European champion to F1, the impact impatience had on his career, how bad luck repeatedly ruined his best chances of a life changing F1 result, and how a change in attitude and focus on learning helped him take Le Mans victory in 1988 and return to F1 after his decade away. Today, Jan is Sporting Director of his hometown racetrack, Zandvoort, and is working to make the Dutch Grand Prix a spectacular and sustainable event. This episode is sponsored by:  MSC Cruises: Explore MSC Cruises world of destinations and book yourself a holiday that’s going to take your breath away from start to finish on ExpressVPN: Secure your online data  by visiting and get an extra three months FREE Door Dash: For a limited time our listeners can get 50% off and zero delivery fees on their first order of $15 or more when you download the DoorDash app and enter code GRID 
He fought one of F1’s all-time greatest duels, was often untouchable in qualifying, and his victories were celebrated by entire nations. René Arnoux spent a decade racing the likes of Gilles Villeneuve, Alain Prost and Niki Lauda. He raced and won for both Renault and Ferrari, leading the Scuderia to a world title in 1983. René passionately and vividly talks Tom Clarkson through his remarkable career, remembering his epic wheel-to-wheel battle with his great friend Villeneuve in 1979, negotiations with Enzo Ferrari, his lost chance to become World Champion and his rivalry with Renault teammate Prost. Arnoux also picks the 2022 F1 driver he thinks is most like himself Related episodes Gilles Villeneuve Remembered  Racing for Enzo Ferrari  René’s pick of 2022: Lando Norris  This episode is sponsored by:  LinkedIn Jobs: find the candidates you want to talk to, faster. Post a job for free at Dave: download the Dave app from the App store right now.  Sign up for an Extra Cash account and get up to 500 dollars instantly. For terms and conditions go to Instant transfer fees apply. Banking provided by Evolve. Member FDIC. Santander: Countdown to Zero is a global competition for startups and scaleups to help the motor sport world become more sustainable. And that’s why we are looking for sustainable and innovative proposals that allow us to continue enjoying our passion while respecting the environment. Register your idea on before 8th September. 
He’s an F1 star, and he’s still getting brighter. Lando Norris is on a mission with McLaren, determined to deliver trophies and titles. He’s twice come agonisingly close to his first F1 victory. That is just fuel for his fire. Lando opens up to Tom Clarkson about the races he feels he should have already won, his moments of self-doubt, his ambitions, his attitude to life and work, and how he’s seen by the public and his fans. Lando reveals he sometimes dwells on past frustrations, but his focus is fixed on future glory. He’s honest and illuminating about things he and his team can improve. One day soon, he says, ‘there won’t be any excuses’. Working on winning will ‘make things sweeter… a much cooler story’. As you’ll hear, the hard work has already begun… Have a listen to Lando’s first F1 Beyond The Grid appearance in March 2020 Plus other related interviews from the BTG archive Daniel Ricciardo Carlos Sainz  McLaren CEO (and Lando’s golf buddy) Zak Brown  This episode is sponsored by:  Liquid IV: get 15% off ANYTHING you order when you shop better hydration today using promo code GRID at BetterHelp: our listeners get 10% off their first month at Babbel: receive six months free with a purchase of a 6-month subscription with promo code GRID at
Since South Africa 1993, Beat Zehnder has not missed a Formula 1 Grand Prix. Hungary 2022 was his 538th race weekend, and he’s spent them all with the same team. Once it was known as Sauber, today it’s Alfa Romeo. Before joining Sauber, Beat was a ship engine mechanic. He was kicked out of his first job interview with the Swiss racing team because he had no interest in motorsport. How and why, then, has he spent so long in Formula 1? Beat tells Tom Clarkson incredible stories of the tiny Sauber team’s amazing entry into F1, and its repeated struggles for survival. Schumacher, Frentzen, Raikkonen, Kubica, Vettel and Leclerc are just some of the drivers Beat has worked with, but who does he call ‘the most complete’ of them all? Beat’s love for the sport was shaken at times of tragedy, but his loyalty and love of teamwork have never faltered. This episode is sponsored by:  Harry's: make sure to support the podcast and start your own skin care journey, by redeeming a free Harry’s Trial Set at All you cover is £3.95 for delivery and your freebie will be added at checkout ExpressVPN: visit to get three extra months free
He’s the newest member of ‘The Piranha Club’ – the nickname for the ruthlessly competitive group of F1 Team Principals. Aston Martin’s Mike Krack is not a newcomer to F1, however. A former European go-kart racer, Mike earned his engineering stripes with Sauber in the early 2000s, where he moulded and mentored a young Felipe Massa. He witnessed the supreme strength and skill of Robert Kubica, and steered Sebastian Vettel through his Grand Prix debut at BMW in 2007. Vettel and Krack are now back together at Aston Martin, and Mike has illuminating insight into how the four-time champion has developed as a person and as a racing driver.  Mike tells Tom Clarkson about his life leading major manufacturers’ racing programs, including the reason he previously walked away from Formula 1. He explains how he’s ‘finding his way’ as boss of the sport’s most ambitious team, charged with fulfilling owner Lawrence Stroll’s aims of challenging for the World Championship. Related episodes from the F1 Beyond The Grid archive: Sebastian Vettel  Robert Kubica Lance Stroll  Lawrence Stroll  Felipe Massa This episode is sponsored by:  Babbel: go to and use promo code GRID for an extra six months free Calm: visit for 40% off unlimited access to Calm’s entire library Athletic Greens: get a FREE 1 year supply of immune supporting Vitamin D AND 5 FREE travel packs with your first purchase, just visit
When Marc Surer reached Formula 1 in 1979, he was a rising star: the reigning Formula 2 champion from the mountains of Switzerland, surely destined for the summit of F1 success. But two leg-breaking crashes made Marc’s climb steeper and harder. He relives those crashes with Tom Clarkson and remembers his remarkable recovery and return to racing. Amazingly, he scored points for Arrows, and almost made the switch to Ferrari after the death of Gilles Villeneuve. Marc also came close to racing for McLaren after a secret meeting with boss Ron Dennis. Later, he survived a fiery rally crash in which his co-driver was killed. Marc shares stories of racing up mountains as a child in a country where motorsport was banned, working with F1 design genius Gordon Murray, driving brutal turbocharged F1 cars armed with more than 1000 horsepower and wrestling Group B rally cars on snow and ice. This episode is sponsored by:  Dave: download the Dave app from the App store right now. Sign up for an Extra Cash account and get up to 500 dollars instantly. For terms and conditions go to Instant transfer fees apply. Banking provided by Evolve. Member FDIC Babbel: right now, Babbel is offering our listeners six months free with a purchase of a 6-month subscription with promo code GRID at BetterHelp: get 10% off your first month at
Before he started, as he puts it, ‘playing with racing cars’, Jody Egginton trained as a schoolteacher. His love of motorsport led him to Formula 1, and he worked his way up from Tyrell during the early years of computer-aided design (CAD) to Technical Director at AlphaTauri today. Along the way he helped Force India achieve a stunning result in 2009, fought to keep the brand-new Caterham team afloat in the 2010s and worked with Max Verstappen and Carlos Sainz at the very start of their F1 careers. He’s now driving AlphaTauri’s car development, pushing a team of engineers flat out to give Pierre Gasly and Yuki Tsunoda a car which can challenge for 5th in the F1 Constructors’ Championship. Jody tells Tom Clarkson about his approach to learning, communication, problem-solving and leadership, and shares advice for aspiring F1 engineers. Related episodes from the Beyond The Grid archive Pierre Gasly Yuki Tsunoda  Franz Tost, AlphaTauri Team Principal James Key, McLaren’s Technical Director John Barnard, legendary F1 technical genius This episode is sponsored by:  Calm: go to for 40% off unlimited access to Calm’s entire library Hello Fresh: visit and use code grid16 for up to 16 free meals AND 3 free gifts Babbel: go to and use promo code GRID for an extra six months free
Comments (187)


this guy sucked at F1 crashed alot . as a Canadian he is literally Justin Trudeau. failure to our country

Nov 4th

Maciej Czech

Amount of useless ads is really pushing away :/

Oct 6th

Michael Carletti

this episode almost made me cry. what a legend

Sep 25th

Michael Carletti

so interesting to hear the wisdom from that era of motor racing

Sep 23rd

Michael Carletti

I know all F1 drivers have big egos. but Nico seems so arrogant

Sep 23rd

Michael Carletti

absolutely great podcast and this episode was very special. I always get nostalgic when talking about Ayrton and Prost. it was very complex battle and I'm sure a super difficult loss for everyone that day

Sep 23rd

Ben Kelly

you got to admire how much Christian believes his own crap, the bloke must fart and think it smells like perfume

Sep 21st

Paul C

Mr. Clarkson 191 episodes that is saying something. One thing I do not understand, what is your hesitation to interview the current and in all likelihood the next f1 champion. Am I missing something? You had Jos Verstappen and most of the other young drivers, even multiple times. Is it a personal thing, from you or Max?

Sep 14th

Chris Abele

2:32 Eau Rouge? Or Raidillion? 🤔

Aug 25th

Maciej Czech

Still disgusting audio quality, nobody from whole team listens to what you are releasing. You are ignoring all comments, emails

Aug 24th

Maciej Czech

Audio quality is still disgusting - nobody from whole team listens to this. Sound of nose, unsticking lips, inhaling. Nobody cares about audio after Bose got away from here.

Jul 21st


Best of luck to you, Esteban. 🤘

Jul 7th

Maciej Czech

It's impossible to listen with those breathing/inhaling noises. Nobody from your team listens to all that, I've reported it many times, nobody cares there. Years ago audio here was perfect

May 12th


fantastic to finally get Nigel. Such a great driver from one of the best eras of F1.

Apr 11th

Sina Manic

A perfect start for an amazing season to come! Smoooooooooooooth operator!

Mar 16th

Hasan Farahani

Such a humble champ. “I was going… not I… the car was so fast”. Such a humble man

Feb 14th

Inver Darroch

I’ve always loved Kimi’s determination to give the opposite answer to what one might expect. I’d like to see him being interviewed in Finnish to see if he’s more talkative. I suspect he’s still as monosyllabic.

Dec 30th


Fascinating episode, I could listen to this woman talk about F1 all day

Dec 23rd

Inver Darroch

He is a remarkable driver; both inside and outside F1. Few are as articulate or well considered in the depth of their answers.

Dec 2nd

Arman Hadi

The major reason why I watch f1 is Fernando

Nov 24th
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