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Elon Musk accuses Apple of trying to sabotage Twitter. But after his visit with Apple’s C.E.O., Tim Cook, things are … good? Then, the New York Times reporter Paul Mozur on the tactics Chinese protesters are deploying to avoid the most sophisticated censorship apparatus in the world.Plus: S.B.F. says it’s been a “bad month.”Additional Reading:Elon Musk accused Apple of threatening to pull Twitter from its App Store and tweeted about Apple’s “secret 30 percent tax” on developers for in-app purchases. The company has again delayed the launch of Twitter Blue as it seeks a way to avoid paying Apple’s 30 percent fee for the service.Later, Musk said the “misunderstanding” with Apple had been resolved after he met with the company’s C.E.O., Tim Cook, at Apple’s headquarters.Layoffs at Twitter gutted the company’s child safety team, which is responsible for removing child exploitation.Musk offered a “general amnesty” for over 60,000 banned accounts on Twitter.Protests in China rippled throughout the country, and citizens found ways to get around the Chinese censorship apparatus.On Wednesday, Sam Bankman-Fried appeared for an interview with Andrew Ross Sorkin at the DealBook Summit.We want to hear from you. Email us at hardfork@nytimes.com. Follow “Hard Fork” on TikTok: @hardfork
The balance sheet contains an apology, the in-house coach is concerned that company executives are “undersexed” and billions in customer funds remain in jeopardy. The wreckage at FTX goes from bad to worse.Plus: Elon’s “extremely hardcore” plan for Twitter 2.0.Additional Resources:George K. Lerner, FTX’s in-house performance coach, said he was shocked by the collapse of FTX.In an interview with Matt Levine, a Bloomberg columnist, Sam Bankman-Fried described his strategy to restore faith in the crypto ecosystem.Bankman-Fried reflected on his actions as chief executive of FTX in a series of Twitter messages with Kelsey Piper, a Vox reporter.Elon Musk told Twitter employees in an email that the company would become an “extremely hardcore” operation. Employees were asked to click yes to be part of the new Twitter or take severance.Musk’s social calendar includes courting comedians and hopping on yachts.We want to hear from you. Email us at hardfork@nytimes.com. Follow “Hard Fork” on TikTok: @hardfork
This week, we go inside Elon Musk’s “dire” warnings, FTX’s spectacular collapse and Meta’s big layoffs. Has the tech industry lost its mind?“Hard Fork” listeners: We want to hear your questions about the tech industry. Send them to hardfork@nytimes.com. Also, check us out on TikTok: @hardforkpodAdditional Resources:Elon Musk told Twitter employees the company faced a bleak financial picture in a meeting with staff on Thursday and in his first companywide emails.The world’s largest crypto exchange, Binance, said it had reached a deal to buy its competitor FTX, which was on the verge of collapse. The news about FTX had left crypto investors scrambling.Is the collapse of FTX crypto’s Lehman Brothers moment?Meta announced layoffs of 11,000 employees, accounting for about 13 percent of its work force.
“We cross our fingers and hope to make it through another day.” Twitter hasn’t spoken publicly since Elon Musk bought the company a week ago. But inside, employees describe a mood of fear, chaos, stress and bizarre requests to print out code.Additional Resources:Members of Elon Musk’s inner circle, including the podcast hosts David Sacks, Jason Calacanis and Sriram Krishnan, are advising Mr. Musk on changes at Twitter.Engineers at Twitter were told to print out their most recent software code to show to Mr. Musk.Under pressure to increase revenue, Mr. Musk considered making Twitter users pay to keep their verification badges. The acclaimed horror author Stephen King was not thrilled by the idea.Twitter’s chief customer officer, Sarah Personette, and several other executives have left the company in recent days.Mr. Musk faces financial challenges in owning Twitter.
We look into the company’s weird new future with Times tech reporter Kate Conger. Plus, how Apple is single-handedly deciding the future of the digital economy, and a social media death watch. Guest today:Kate Conger, a technology reporter in the San Francisco bureau of The New York TimesAdditional resources: Elon Musk has closed the $44 billion deal to own Twitter.In the lead up to the deadline to complete the acquisition of the social media service, Elon Musk visited Twitter’s San Francisco office and sought to reassure advertisers about his plans for the platform through a Tweet.Spotify has struggled to bring audiobooks onto its platform after Apple rejected Spotify’s new app three times.The CEO of Altimeter Capital, the hedge fund and Meta shareholder, wrote a critical open letter to Meta and Mark Zuckerberg.
We sit down with the founder of Stability AI, Emad Mostaque, on the heels of his $101 million fund-raising round. His open-source Stable Diffusion image generator is the key to unlocking creativity, he says, and “one of the ultimate tools for freedom of expression” — as long as it stays out of the hands of a few censorious tech giants. So what’s this former hedge fund manager turned tech mogul thinking about how this technology could be used — or misused? Plus: A.I. Kevin and A.I. Casey stop by.On today’s episodeEmad Mostaque, the chief executive of Stability AIAdditional resources“Eshoo Urges N.S.A. & O.S.T.P. to Address Unsafe A.I. Practices” (Press Release, Representative Anna Eshoo of California)“This artist is dominating A.I.-generated art. And he’s not happy about it.” (Melissa Heikkilä, M.I.T. Technology Review)“A Coming-Out Party for Generative A.I., Silicon Valley’s New Craze” (Kevin Roose, The New York Times)
Meta is in the fight of its life — and Mark Zuckerberg hopes VR is the answer. Hmmm. Plus, an existential threat to the gig economy and the wildest news in artificial intelligence.
The $44 billion Twitter deal is back on the table — and Casey isn’t buying it. Kevin looks for friends in the Metaverse. And the “Hard Fork Transparency Report” debuts. You can read Kashmir Hill’s story here: "This Is Life in the Metaverse."
What’s a Hard Fork?

What’s a Hard Fork?

2022-09-2701:28

Hosts Kevin Roose and Casey Newton explore stories from the wild frontier of tech.What’s real? What’s hype? “Hard Fork” is here to help you make sense of it. Tune in on Friday, Oct. 7.
Stay tuned for “Hard Fork,” a new podcast from The New York Times that comes Friday, Oct. 7 to this feed.If you’re looking for “Sway” with Kara Swisher, you can search for older episodes in any podcast app or at nytimes.com/sway.
Best Of: Jon Stewart

Best Of: Jon Stewart

2022-07-2850:193

This month, Kara is revisiting some of her favorite episodes of Sway — including this conversation with the comedian and former Daily Show host, Jon Stewart, taped in March 2022. This episode contains strong language.You can find transcripts (posted midday) and more information for all episodes at nytimes.com/sway, and you can find Kara on Twitter @karaswisher.
This month, Kara is revisiting some of her favorite episodes of Sway — including this conversation with the actor and self-proclaimed ‘statesman-philosopher, folk-singing poet’ Matthew McConaughey, taped in October 2021.This episode contains strong language.You can find transcripts (posted midday) and more information for all episodes at nytimes.com/sway, and you can find Kara on Twitter @karaswisher.
Best Of: Stacey Abrams

Best Of: Stacey Abrams

2022-07-2145:32

This month, Kara is revisiting some of her favorite episodes of Sway — including this conversation with the Georgia gubernatorial candidate and Democratic powerhouse Stacey Abrams, taped in March 2021.You can find transcripts (posted midday) and more information for all episodes at nytimes.com/sway, and you can find Kara on Twitter @karaswisher.
Best Of: Jason Miller

Best Of: Jason Miller

2022-07-1847:19

This month, Kara is revisiting some of her favorite episodes of Sway — including this conversation with the longtime Trump adviser and C.E.O. of Gettr Jason Miller, taped in August 2021.You can find transcripts (posted midday) and more information for all episodes at nytimes.com/sway, and you can find Kara on Twitter @karaswisher.
Best Of: Fran Lebowitz

Best Of: Fran Lebowitz

2022-07-1438:381

This month, Kara is revisiting some of her favorite episodes of Sway — including this conversation with the humorist and famed New Yorker Fran Lebowitz, taped in February 2021.You can find transcripts (posted midday) and more information for all episodes at nytimes.com/sway, and you can find Kara on Twitter @karaswisher.
This month Kara is revisiting some of her favorite episodes — usually of Sway. But today she has another show to share with you: First Person.In this episode of the New York Times Opinion podcast, host Lulu Garcia-Navarro speaks with Jerri Ann Henry, a former leader of the Log Cabin Republicans, an outspoken group of gay conservatives. Henry used to thinkher party was moving toward accepting gay rights, but with G.O.P. legislators backing anti-L.G.T.B.Q. laws in several states and the constitutional right to same-sex marriage potentially threatened after the reversal of Roe v. Wade, she now finds herself wondering whether she still has a place in the Republican Party — or any party.You can find transcripts (posted midday) and more information for all episodes at nytimes.com/sway, and you can find Kara on Twitter @karaswisher.
Best Of: Monica Lewinsky

Best Of: Monica Lewinsky

2022-07-0747:293

This month, Kara is revisiting some of her favorite episodes of Sway — including this interview with Monica Lewinsky, the producer, activist and — yes — former White House intern. We taped this conversation in October 2021.This episode contains strong language.You can find transcripts (posted midday) and more information for all episodes at nytimes.com/sway, and you can find Kara on Twitter @karaswisher.
Best Of: Elon Musk

Best Of: Elon Musk

2022-07-0445:093

This month, Kara is revisiting some of her favorite episodes of Sway — including this conversation with the Tesla C.E.O., Elon Musk, taped in September 2020.You can find transcripts (posted midday) and more information for all episodes at nytimes.com/sway, and you can find Kara on Twitter @karaswisher.
Kara in the Hot Seat

Kara in the Hot Seat

2022-06-3047:151

As the show comes to a close, it felt fitting to save the most elusive guest for last: Kara Swisher herself.In this conversation with the senior editor of “Sway,” Nayeema Raza, Kara revisits major moments from her year and a half of interviews — from a dropped Zoom call with Nancy Pelosi to a raw interrogation of Parler’s C.E.O., John Matze, which was taped as the Jan. 6 Capitol attack unfolded. They talk about the guests who got away (like Dolly Parton), the ones they could have been harder on and how Kara thinks about her own power, or sway. And they tackle questions in an AMA, or “ask me anything,” format, fielding listeners’ questions about what start-ups were before their time and which tech titans need more scrutiny. Kara also answers questions from the former “Sway” guests Jon Stewart, Walt Mossberg and Mark Cuban.This episode contains strong language.You can find transcripts (posted midday) and more information for all episodes at nytimes.com/sway.And you can find Kara and Nayeema on Twitter — @karaswisher and @nayeema.
Stocks tumbling, inflation soaring and interest rates climbing — it’s clear America’s economy has hit some turbulence. And yet President Biden says a recession is “not inevitable.” Andrew Ross Sorkin, the founder and editor at large of DealBook at The New York Times, sat down with Kara Swisher to unpack our economic woes, predict what happens next and diagnose what Washington could have done differently.In this conversation, they discuss how the pandemic highlighted our economic dependence on China and helped pave the way for both a crypto boom and the subsequent bear market. They break down the futures of companies from Netflix and Disney to Coinbase and Twitter, and discuss whether activist employees will continue to wield power with their corporate employers. And Andrew helps explain why airfares are so damn expensive.You can find transcripts (posted midday) and more information for all episodes at nytimes.com/sway, and you can find Kara on Twitter @karaswisher.
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ncooty

Ugh, it is so tiresome to hear repetitions of failed economic orthodoxy. E.g., the guest conveyed a view that economics is mostly a matter of natural laws rather than of public policies, that economic value trickles down (flowing from capital to labor), that labor costs are what cause price increases (and the corollary, that high unemployment lowers prices), etc. That's all garbage; it's demonstrably false storytelling to justify the enrichment of the rich based on exploitation. It's a shame that no matter how many times these false stories lead to disasters, people still believe and repeat them.

Nov 24th
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ncooty

@42:20: This is an impressively knuckle-headed theory that suggests the hosts have a very poor understanding of finance. It's as if the hosts don't understand the difference between debt and equity. If Elon or Twitter (e.g., via an LBO) have secured debts, the value of the debt doesn't decrease just because the collateral/ securitization loses value. It might make sense if the issue were of equity held by investors rather than debts held by creditors. The only other way this makes sense is if the debts are unsecured (unlikely) or there's an implied threat of bankruptcy. People are just so deceived by Elon that they're blind to the obvious--i.e., he's an insecure, rash, dim child--and choose instead to concoct stories about he's actually playing n-dimensional chess. He's not even playing tic-tac-toe.

Nov 23rd
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ncooty

Elina is more interested in performing for his fan-boys than in running any companies. He's just a jackass who got rich from a lucky bet on PayPal and has since gotten rich off of engineers who try to make sense of his nonsense. He's a deeply insecure, immature moron whose identity is wrapped up in trolling.

Nov 23rd
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Douglas Wray

Awesome. I’m very glad this podcast does its thing. Thank you everybody for your hard work.

Nov 19th
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Maciej Czech

We never signed up for this podcast. Now you are making fun how unprepared you are for CNN interviews - that is why you have to SPAM this show to us

Nov 16th
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Golden boy

Delusional lefties

Sep 20th
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squogg

This was such a wonderful interview. I'm officially subscribing to first person. Thanks for the recommendation!

Jul 12th
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Chris Abele

On the discovery channel, the "American Chopper"-show gave everyone a clue how easy it is to build a "one of", a prototype. :)

Jul 8th
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Maciej Czech

Finally somebody strong who can stand up to Kara's pushed statements

Jul 2nd
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Black Mirror

If Dalio thinks the solution to income inequality is to "increase productivity," why doesn't he pick up his soft doughy ass and get a real job? This man provides absolutely nothing to anyone

May 3rd
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Cami Decker

"We don't talk about Trump-o" -- haha! Encanto is everywhere.

Feb 4th
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Carlton _

I've never heard anyone call themselves honest as many times in my life as Katie Couric just called herself in 43 minutes.

Nov 1st
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Kathleen Marcove

I usually love Kara's interviews... this one made me uncomfortable... the questions were tough, I felt Katie was honest, but put on the defense which took away from the interview. I especially did not appreciate at all the line of questioning about why she didn't rat out Matt Lauer... she worked with him 15 years ago... it WAS a different time, she was his peer (likely competitor) on the show. She stated no one came to her with specific complaints, it was not keeping her from doing her job, it seemed gossip was rampant in the Today Show's workplace... what was Katie supposed to do? Why was it her responsibility given the situation she described and her position. Not to mention it has been found that the executives at NBC knew all along, paid people off to keep them quiet, put a button on his desk to lock the door so people like Katie didn't walk in on him doing bad deeds... if she has said anything without a specific complaint, something she saw or something someone else had reported to her she would have looked like she was after his job--you know that is how she would have been regarded...Kara, would you have drilled down like this if you were interviewing Al Roker...a man in the same work place?

Nov 1st
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Bea Kiddo

I love Adam Schiff. I wish he could be president. He’s one of the rare honest men in our government.

Oct 15th
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AJB

Getr- Where facts, science and truth goes to die

Aug 19th
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Thomas Albert

Few actors who start at an early age turn into really good actors. Levitt drops all the usual bombs about "being grateful" and oh-so-lucky to have all the opportunities he has had. By the way, did you know he is the father of two. In the end, it's all more disillusioning than hopeful. Buzz words indeed. Let's talk I 20 years, Levitt, because at 40 you sound as canned as Campbell's soup.

Aug 19th
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cse

greedy capitalist pig.

Aug 12th
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Mike Zieper

love the new photo

Jun 21st
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Rik Landon

Swisher-I almost solely wrote you off as a political in your face militant, same-sex married, gay rights advocate. I'm glad I didn't! you are clearly one of the smartest persons in the room and although I don't see eye to eye with you on the gay rights issue you are clearly one of the best at landing great interviews, asking tough questions, and cut through the b*******.

Jun 3rd
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Bea Kiddo

Desus and Mero is one of my favorite shows, I can’t wait for their new episodes every week.

May 11th
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