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Steven and Ian begin this week's episode by talking about a big potential reunion in the rock world. Of course we're referring to... TV On The Radio! The band appears to be teasing something right now, which the guys assume is probably their first concert dates in five years (1:38). After that, they of course talk about the return of Oasis. Steven is very pumped, but will he actually pay through the nose to see them in Europe (7:06)? Maybe he will to take his mind off the disastrous state of his Fantasy Album Draft team. It looks like Ian is on the way to yet another easy victory this quarter (22:07). The guys then transition to a conversation about Nick Cave And The Bad Seeds, who release a new album, Wild God, today. Steven is yay on Cave, but what about Ian (29:57)?In the mailbag, a listener asks about the phenomenon of "rawdogging" on airplanes and whether the guys ever listen to music without doing anything else (40:00). Then they answer an email about whether they like prog rock, and Steven gives a very detailed answer (47:17).In Recommendation Corner, Ian talks up the UK act Seefeel and Steven goes for veteran singer-songwriter Ray LaMontagne (56:22).New episodes of Indiecast drop every Friday. Listen to Episode 204 here and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts. You can submit questions for Steve and Ian at indiecastmailbag@gmail.com, and make sure to follow us on Instagram and X (formerly Twitter) for all the latest news. We also recently launched a visualizer for our favorite Indiecast moments. Check those out here.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Steven and Ian open this week's episode by talking about pontoon boats -- Steven was on one this week, and he listened to Steve Winwood's "Back In The High Life Again" on a loop. Ian shares his own pontoon story about someone named Uncle Zippy (2:05). After a brief look at the Fantasy Albums Draft (5:05) -- Steven has records from Sabrina Carpenter, The Spirit Of The Beehive, and Illuminati Hotties out this week -- they talk about a recent article charting the pop culture events of the Obamacore era. Steven asks Ian for his take on artists like Tune-Yards, Chance The Rapper, and Run The Jewels -- are they Obamacore? What is Obamacore, anyway (14:47)?After that, they talk about Romance, the new album from Irish rock band Fontaines DC. Is this the record that finally gets the guys on board with a band they are otherwise indifferent about? (It is for one of them!) (36:10). In the mailbag, a listener corrects some misinformation about a recent Ween concert (46:35). Steven and Ian also answer an email about driving long distances to concerts when you live in a small town. (They also discover the Canadian hardcore band Dayglo Abortions, for better or worse.) (48:39)In Recommendation Corner, Ian talks about the latest from Magdalena Bay while Steven stumps for BBsitters Club (56:38).New episodes of Indiecast drop every Friday. Listen to Episode 203 here and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts. You can submit questions for Steve and Ian at indiecastmailbag@gmail.com, and make sure to follow us on Instagram and X (formerly Twitter) for all the latest news. We also recently launched a visualizer for our favorite Indiecast moments. Check those out here.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Steven and Ian begin today's episode with a review of Phoenix's performance at the Olympics last weekend, and the maddening idea that every band from the aughts is now being lumped into the made-up phenomenon known as "indie sleaze" (1:09). From there, they move on to the news that the proggy British post-punk band Black Midi has apparently broken up. The guys discuss their brief career and the surprisingly wide influence they have had on other acts (13:38).Then they talk about Wishy, the Indiana-based shoegaze outfit that has emerged as one of 2024's most hyped young bands. Their debut full-length, Triple Seven, is out today, and Steven loves it while Ian is more reserved in his judgement (24:49). After that, they move on to discussion about Ween, who Steven wrote about this week. He wonders whether Ian has a "yay or nay" assessment of the cult duo (39:15). In the mailbag, a listener asks about the strangest place the guys have either seen a show, and Steven talks about seeing the '90s rap group Onyx and Fleetwood Mac's Lindsey Buckingham at two different high schools (47:01).In Recommendation Corner, Ian talks up the playful pop of Porter Robinson while Steven stumps for the Georgia rock band Futurebirds (53:26).New episodes of Indiecast drop every Friday. Listen to Episode 202 here and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts. You can submit questions for Steve and Ian at indiecastmailbag@gmail.com, and make sure to follow us on Instagram and X (formerly Twitter) for all the latest news. We also recently launched a visualizer for our favorite Indiecast moments. Check those out here.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Steven and Ian open this week's episode with a quick Politics-cast about Tim Walz, the VP candidate whose life resembles a middle-aged man's version of a Hold Steady song (2:05). From there, they discuss a range of not-quite-indie topics — the retirement of Aerosmith from the road (15:30), the explosion of Chappell Roan (24:33), and whether John Mayer's "Daughters" is the worst song ever written (as suggested by St. Vincent) (34:37).In the mailbag, a reader asks for advice on which upcoming show he should see, and the guys instead end up talking about the ethics of selling a birthday present bought by your wife (48:25).In Recommendation Corner, Ian talks about the latest from Parannoul and Steven reps the new album by Oso Oso (54:53).New episodes of Indiecast drop every Friday. Listen to Episode 201 here and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts. You can submit questions for Steve and Ian at indiecastmailbag@gmail.com, and make sure to follow us on Instagram and X (formerly Twitter) for all the latest news. We also recently launched a visualizer for our favorite Indiecast moments. Check those out here.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Today's episode begins with Steven and Ian dipping into Sportscast discourse about the Olympics and Jordan Love's recent historic NFL contract (2:20). After that, they delve into the week's new releases, which include a Smashing Pumpkins album not even Steven and Ian care about (11:25) and an Ian fantasy draft pick that might have been a reach. They also talk about the recently announced American Football tribute album (17:42), and Steven's experience seeing Vampire Weekend live this week (21:23).In the mailbag, the guys answer questions about the validity of predetermined "farewell" albums (33:40) and their feelings about Father John Misty's Pure Comedy in light of a new greatest hits album for FJM (40:30).In Recommendation Corner, Ian goes the Swedish emo band I Love Your Style while Steven talks about retro country singer Charley Crockett (52:04).New episodes of Indiecast drop every Friday. Listen to Episode 200 here and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts. You can submit questions for Steve and Ian at indiecastmailbag@gmail.com, and make sure to follow us on Instagram and X (formerly Twitter) for all the latest news. We also recently launched a visualizer for our favorite Indiecast moments. Check those out here.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Today's episode begins with an extended rant from Steven about a big pet peeve: The conflation of music taste with personal morality and/or ideology. This came up multiple times this week, first with Charli XCX's apparent endorsement of Kamala Harris and the deep investigation into JD Vance's Spotify playlists (2:17). After Steven's rant, Ian shares his review of EA Sports College Football 25 and how it might impact his music writing career (17:40).The guys then talk about new albums from Jack White and Childish Gambino, and the diverging paths both artists are taking in 2024 (22:20). They also discuss two records that turned 10 this week, Joyce Manor's Never Hungover Again and Alvvays' Alvvays, and the value of song power over short-term cultural relevancy (35:45). In the mailbag, a listener asks Steven and Ian to recount their biggest musical disagreements (45:40).In Recommendation Corner, Ian talks up the latest from Ben Seratan and Sinai Vessel while Steven stumps for Wand and American Aquarium (54:45).New episodes of Indiecast drop every Friday. Listen to Episode 199 here and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts. You can submit questions for Steve and Ian at indiecastmailbag@gmail.com, and make sure to follow us on Instagram and X (formerly Twitter) for all the latest news. We also recently launched a visualizer for our favorite Indiecast moments. Check those out here.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Steven and Ian begin today's episode by reflecting on what they were doing when you-know-what happened last weekend. Then they get down to what is truly the biggest news of the week: The release of EA College Football 25, which is about to become Ian's obsession (6:00). After Video Game-cast, they pivot to a discussion about Tenacious D and their implosion over Kyle Gass' Trump comments in Australia (12:00). They also yay-or-nay the comedy-rock trio, from the perspective of another comedy-rock trio.From there, they tackle the return of Japandroids, who will release their first album in seven years, Fate And Alcohol, in October. But can they ever top Celebration Rock (20:01)? Steven also fills Ian on some jam band beef this week between Trey Anastasio and Dead & Company (28:08). In the mailbag, they answer a listener question about whether '90s-style "weird for weirdness' sake" music is still being made, with a tangent about the legacy of Tom Waits (40:35).In Recommendation Corner, Ian talks up the British emo band Los Campesinos! while Steven stumps for the rising country artist Zach Top (53:50).New episodes of Indiecast drop every Friday. Listen to Episode 198 here and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts. You can submit questions for Steve and Ian at indiecastmailbag@gmail.com, and make sure to follow us on Instagram and X (formerly Twitter) for all the latest news. We also recently launched a visualizer for our favorite Indiecast moments. Check those out here.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Today is a very packed day for album releases, ranging from acclaimed indie acts (Clairo! Cassandra Jenkins! ) (34:00) to the opposite of acclaimed indie acts (a new Eric Clapton live album!) (10:15). Steven and Ian looked at the slate and decided to play FMK (2:00), touching on albums from Cigarettes After Sex (19:50), Eminem (17:00), Sturgill Simpson (23:15), Phish (8:00), Travis (12:00), and more. Steven also asked Ian for his thoughts on the recent Zach Bryan LP, and finds that Ian isn't really on board (26:15).In the mailbag, they answer a question about whether there are "Joe Biden-esque bands" that need to retire (38:30), and then they delve deep into amorphous concept known as Odelay-core (46:55).In Recommendation Corner, Ian talks up the power pop band Macseal and Steven stumps for Detroit singer-songwriter Conor Lynch (53:40).New episodes of Indiecast drop every Friday. Listen to Episode 197 here and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts. You can submit questions for Steve and Ian at indiecastmailbag@gmail.com, and make sure to follow us on Instagram and X (formerly Twitter) for all the latest news. We also recently launched a visualizer for our favorite Indiecast moments. Check those out here.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Steven and Ian are true patriots, and they pay tribute to the ol' U.S. of A at the start of this week's episode by picking some of their favorite patio music albums of 2024 so far, as well as their picks for the greatest patio album of all time (2:29). This is the music you'll want to rock at your July 4th weekend gathering. From there, they do a quick TVcast about the controversial third season of The Bear, which Steven defends and Ian mostly dismisses (7:58). Then they get into their latest Fantasy Albums Draft, which draws on upcoming releases from July to September. Can Steven finally win one of these, or will Ian take his fourth consecutive title (20:00)?In the mailbag, they address a listener question about Hate To Love, a new Netflix documentary about Nickelback, and they also give their yay-or-nay verdicts on the polarizing post-grunge band (51:10).In Recommendation Corner, Ian goes for the singer-songwriter project Growing Stone while Steven stumps for the Minneapolis rock band Ahem (1:04:45).New episodes of Indiecast drop every Friday. Listen to Episode 196 here and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts. You can submit questions for Steve and Ian at indiecastmailbag@gmail.com, and make sure to follow us on Instagram and X (formerly Twitter) for all the latest news. We also recently launched a visualizer for our favorite Indiecast moments. Check those out here.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Steven and Ian begin today's episode by reflecting on the short-lived beef between Dave Grohl and Taylor Swift, which was initiated by a dad joke told on stage by the former about the latter (0:26). The guys also discuss the new album announcement from MJ Lenderman, and Steven tries not to be too annoying about what will likely be one of his favorite albums of the year (7:47). Then they take a hard pivot to talking about the life and passing of Crazy Town singer Shifty Shellshock (16:00) before revisiting (and resolving) last week's Donutgate in the mailbag (21:12).Finally, they get down to naming their favorite albums of 2024 so far (24:22). Each guy picked five albums, and there were no repeats. Will one of your faves be among the ten selected? Will you disagree vehemently with the choices? There's only one way to find out!New episodes of Indiecast drop every Friday. Listen to Episode 195 here and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts. You can submit questions for Steve and Ian at indiecastmailbag@gmail.com, and make sure to follow us on Instagram and X (formerly Twitter) for all the latest news. We also recently launched a visualizer for our favorite Indiecast moments. Check those out here.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Today's episode begins with Steven confronting Ian over a difficult subject: The big plate of donuts that Ian stole from Steven at his book event in Los Angeles last week (0:25). Will the guys be able to get past this? Yes, they will. But not before some serious donut shaming! After resolving the donut issue, they briefly discuss Steven's plans to see the Pixies, Modest Mouse, and Cat Power on the same bill, and the Pixies' weird status post-reunion in the 21st century (8:59).After that, they finally get down to the task of handing out their mid-year Indiecasties (16:41). Categories include: Most Valuable Album Cycle (18:13), Most Memory-Holed Album (25:19), Most Annoying Music Writer Story (32:53), Most Fun Music Writer Story (39:58), and Most Overrated Album (47:02). Remember: Everybody is a winner at the Indiecasties. It's an honor just to be nominated!In Recommendation Corner, Ian talks up the new album from Annabel while Steven raves about the latest from This Is Lorelei (53:29).New episodes of Indiecast drop every Friday. Listen to Episode 194 here and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts. You can submit questions for Steve and Ian at indiecastmailbag@gmail.com, and make sure to follow us on Instagram and X (formerly Twitter) for all the latest news. We also recently launched a visualizer for our favorite Indiecast moments. Check those out here.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Steven is on the road this week doing book promotion and other fun things, so it seemed like a perfect time for he and Ian to answer some listener emails. As always, our listeners stepped up with some amazing topics this week.First, the guys talk about the recent Sufjan Stevens Illinois musical and discuss other albums that might warrant the adaptation treatment (7:44). Second, they talk about the best three-year period in modern music history and why it's (probably) 2000-02 (16:01). Third, they revisit Car Seat Headrest's 2020 album Making A Door Less Open and whether it's the biggest drop-off from an acclaimed predecessor (25:22). Fourth, they talk about the run of recent jangle pop and shoegaze albums and whether it's possible for homages to be better than the originals (35:34). Finally, they discuss their favorite recent music books, and the overall state of the 33 1/3 series (44:46).New episodes of Indiecast drop every Friday. Listen to Episode 193 here and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts. You can submit questions for Steve and Ian at indiecastmailbag@gmail.com, and make sure to follow us on Instagram and X (formerly Twitter) for all the latest news. We also recently launched a visualizer for our favorite Indiecast moments. Check those out here.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

After a brief Sportscast on the media meltdown over Caitlin Clark’s early stint in the WNBA (0:30), Steven and Ian have perhaps the least likely conversation in Indiecast history about Ian going to a Sarah McLachlan concert (!) and seeing a fight almost break out (!!) (7:21). They also talk about Steven’s upcoming book event on June 11 at Book Soup in LA that Ian is hosting (19:25).From there, they talk about the new album from Texas band Good Looks, Lived Here For A While, which is one of 2024’s best indie rock records along with being one of the easiest to root for (22:54). They also talk about Brat, the new album by Charli XCX, as well as a larger conversation about how “indie pop” became known as “middle class pop” (32:54). Finally, they conclude with a discussion of The Killers’ Hot Fuss, which turns 20 this week (42:51).In Recommendation Corner, Ian talks up the emo band Southtowne Lanes while Steven recommends the Indianapolis band Everything, Now! (53:47).New episodes of Indiecast drop every Friday. Listen to Episode 192 here and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts. You can submit questions for Steve and Ian at indiecastmailbag@gmail.com, and make sure to follow us on Instagram and X (formerly Twitter) for all the latest news. We also recently launched a visualizer for our favorite Indiecast moments. Check those out here.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This week's episode begins with Steven talking about his visit to Brooklyn as part of the promotional tour for his new book, There Was Nothing You Could Do: Bruce Springsteen's "Born In The U.S.A." And The End Of The Heartland (7:15). They also commence a quick Sportscast to talk about the state of jinxes and reverse-jinxes concerning the Minnesota Timberwolves (10:59).From there, they talk about how the Black Keys announced a change in tour plans from playing arenas to more "intimate" venues in light of weak ticket sales. Is this a sign of bigger changes in the live concert business (20:26)? They also discuss a recent article about the so-called "end of merch" and their respective feelings about band t-shirts (34:13). (Ian is indifferent, Steven has passionate opinions.) Then they address the recent soundtrack to the 2024 cult film I Saw The TV Glow, and how the album comments on the glory days of movie soundtracks from the 1990s (47:40).In Recommendation Corner, Ian talks up the latest release from shoegaze band Draag while Steven stumps for a box set from The Waterboys documenting the making of an '80s alternative classic (57:36).New episodes of Indiecast drop every Friday. Listen to Episode 191 here and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts. You can submit questions for Steve and Ian at indiecastmailbag@gmail.com, and make sure to follow us on Instagram and Twitter for all the latest news. We also recently launched a visualizer for our favorite Indiecast moments. Check those out here.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Steven and Ian open this week's episode by recapping Ian's epic technical fail that canceled last week's episode (0:26). They also revisit last week's lost Kings Of Leon conversation and this year's wealth of memory-holed albums (2:43). Finally, Steven expresses gratitude that his Sportscast rant about jinxing the Timberwolves in the lost episode never aired (9:41).Then the guys address Apple Music's list of the 100 Best Albums, which prompted a lot of conversation this week (20:34). For instance: Is 1989 (Taylor's Version) really the 18th best album of all time? Steven forwards the idea that 60 years might be too wide of a time span for one list when it comes to assessing music. From there, they review the new album by DIIV, Frog In Boiling Water, which Steven might like more than Ian (38:29).In Recommendation Corner, Ian hypes up the latest from Young Jesus while Steven stumps for From Indian Lakes (56:17).New episodes of Indiecast drop every Friday. Listen to Episode 190 here and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts. You can submit questions for Steve and Ian at indiecastmailbag@gmail.com, and make sure to follow us on Instagram and Twitter for all the latest news.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

A short explanation from Steve about why there's no episode this week. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Steven and Ian begin today's episode with a quick recap of the seemingly on-pause rap battle between Kendrick Lamar and Drake (0:25), as well as a Sportscast segment on Steven's bandwagon-jumping with the Minnesota Timberwolves (3:39). After that, they address the sad news about the death of Steve Albini at the age of 61 (16:11). They recap the musician/producer's illustrious career, and wonder whether his death marks the end of an era in indie music. Then the guys delve into a recent interview with a member of the shoegaze band Whirr and Ian's run-in with them back in the 2010s (38:02).In the mailbag, a listener comes up with a new term — Poochie band, after the famous Simpsons episode — to describe acts that have one song so good that it makes it impossible to hear any other song they have ever made (46:46). What bands apply as "Poochie" material?In Recommendation Corner, Ian talks about the latest effort from hardcore band Knocked Loose while Steven backs the new album by Amen Dunes (55:19).New episodes of Indiecast drop every Friday. Listen to Episode 188 here and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts. You can submit questions for Steve and Ian at indiecastmailbag@gmail.com, and make sure to follow us on Instagram and Twitter for all the latest news.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Steven and Ian begin today's episode by catching up with "Euphoria," the diss track that Kendrick Lamar unleashed on Drake this week. Did Kendrick really confuse The Sixth Sense star Haley Joel Osment with Texas televangelist Joel Osteen? Looks like it! (0:30) They also check in with the buzzy Sabrina Carpenter pop hit "Espresso," which has signaled the annual (tiresome) conversation about the song of the summer. (11:14)Then they transition to a conversation about Local Natives, the LA band who recently lost one of their founding members. Steven and Ian recap the group's career and comment on the enduring popularity of early 2010s indie stars. (17:26) From there, they discuss three artists who Steven's Fantasy Albums team — Jessica Pratt, Mdou Moctar, and Kamasi Washington — who put out new albums today. (30:25)In the mailbag, they give the yay-or-nay treatment to Amen Dunes (41:54), and also engage in more Lake Mendota/Hovvdy talk. (48:03)For Recommendation Corner, Ian talks up the Swedish band Rain Recordings while Steven catches with the British group English Teacher. (53:31)New episodes of Indiecast drop every Friday. Listen to Episode 187 here and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts. You can submit questions for Steve and Ian at indiecastmailbag@gmail.com, and make sure to follow us on Instagram and Twitter for all the latest news.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Steven begins this episode like he has many other installments of Indiecast — by complaining to Ian about the performance of his Fantasy Albums team. In this instance, he thought he had a sure thing — a new Taylor Swift album — but after a predictable wave of early raves, Taylor’s Metacritic score has tumbled amid a critical backlash. What happened? (0:30) Steven and Ian also recap their recent experiences at two very different concerts, Phish at Sphere and Cindy Lee in San Diego. (16:08)After that, Steven proceeds to rant about Oasis not get inducted into the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame this year, and how this underlines once again the Rock Hall’s bias against alt and indie bands of the 1980s and ’90s. (25:24) He also compares Foreigner and Peter Frampton to former NFL quarterback Trent Dilfer. and it definitely makes sense. Then the guys review the new album by the charming Austin indie-pop duo Hovvdy, who make very good patio music. (36:23) In the mailbag, a listener brings up new music from Menomena and if it’s ever bad to sound too much like yourself. (45:07)In Recommendation Corner, Ian talks about the “sasscore” band SeeYouSpaceCowboy while Steven goes for a classic rec with the ’80s band Love And Rockets. (52:57)New episodes of Indiecast drop every Friday. Listen to Episode 186 here and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts. You can submit questions for Steve and Ian at indiecastmailbag@gmail.com, and make sure to follow us on Instagram and Twitter for all the latest news.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Steven and Ian begin this week’s episode by talking about shows they plan on seeing this weekend — Ian is going to check out the buzzy retro-pop master Cindy Lee (3:56) while Steven is venturing to Las Vegas to see Phish play the Sphere (0:29). They also briefly touch on the iffy-looking Taylor Swift album out today, The Tortured Poets Department, which has high “unintentional comedy” potential (12:16).From there they follow up on last week’s Coachella discussion to cover some of the festival’s viral performances, which also happen to be the biggest trainwrecks of the opening weekend: Blur’s indifferently received spot and Grimes’ glitch-filled DJ set (18:07). Then they review two albums out today by veteran rock acts: Pearl Jam’s Dark Matter (25:36)and Cloud Nothings’ Final Summer (39.18). Do they still have the juice? The guys hash it out.In Recommendation Corner, Ian recommends Chanel Beads and Steven raves about the new single by Ben Seratan (50:06).New episodes of Indiecast drop every Friday. Listen to Episode 185 here and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts. You can submit questions for Steve and Ian at indiecastmailbag@gmail.com, and make sure to follow us on Instagram and Twitter for all the latest news. We also recently launched a visualizer for our favorite Indiecast moments. Check those out here.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.