Law and Chaos

Liz sits down with Arizona trial lawyer Tom Ryan to discuss last week’s indictment of fake electors by Arizona Attorney General Kris Mayes. It’s indictment-thirty for Boris Epshteyn and Christina Bobb!   Links: Gag Order https://www.justsecurity.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/JustSecurityNY2016ElectionInterferenceCaseClearinghouse%E2%80%94Order-granting-State-of-New-York-motion-to-restrict-Trump-extrajudicial-statements-March-26-2024.pdf  Indictment https://www.azag.gov/sites/default/files/2024-04/Indictment%20Redacted.pdf  DM Cantor on Class 2 felonies in AZ https://dmcantor.com/class-2-felony-in-arizona# AZ Central story https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/04/24/arizona-fake-electors-indictments/73184206007/ A.R.S. 13-2310 https://www.azleg.gov/ars/13/02310.htm DM Cantor on Fraudulent Schemes https://dmcantor.com/blog/what-are-fraudulent-schemes-in-arizona   Show Links: https://www.lawandchaospod.com/ BlueSky: @LawAndChaosPod Threads: @LawAndChaosPod Twitter: @LawAndChaosPod Patreon: patreon.com/LawAndChaosPod

Liz talks to podcaster Andrew Torrez about Trump’s Manhattan prosecution and the debacle at the Supreme Court Thursday when Trump made his magical, perpetual, presidential immunity argument.   Links: Arizona v. Ward — Indictment https://www.azag.gov/sites/default/files/2024-04/Indictment.pdf  People v. Trump — Transcripts https://pdfs.nycourts.gov/PeopleVs.DTrump-71543/transcripts/  People v. Trump — Evidence https://pdfs.nycourts.gov/PeopleVs.DTrump-71543/Evidence/  Trump  v. US — SCOTUS Docket https://www.supremecourt.gov/search.aspx?filename=/docket/docketfiles/html/public/23-939.html  SCOTUS oral argument https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/audio/2023/23-939 Trump DC MTD Presidential immunity https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.258149/gov.uscourts.dcd.258149.74.0_3.pdf SCOTUS docket in US v. Trump (DC) https://www.scotusblog.com/case-files/cases/trump-v-united-states-3/ DC Circuit Opinion https://www.cadc.uscourts.gov/internet/opinions.nsf/1AC5A0E7090A350785258ABB0052D942/$file/23-3228-2039001.pdf Trump SCOTUS Brief https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/23/23-939/303418/20240319150454815_23-939%20-%20Brief%20for%20Petitioner.pdf US SCOTUS Opposition https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/23/23-939/306999/20240408191803801_United%20States%20v.%20Trump%20final%20for%20filing.pdf Trump Reply Brief https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/23/23-939/307578/20240415133854183_USSC%2023-939%20-%20Reply%20Brief%20of%20Petitioner.pdf Constitutional Scholars Amicus https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/23/23-939/306994/20240408102651774_Trump%20v.%20US%20CAC%20Scholars%20Brief%2023-929.pdf Marbury v. Madison https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/5/137/#tab-opinion-1958607   Show Links: https://www.lawandchaospod.com/ BlueSky: @LawAndChaosPod Threads: @LawAndChaosPod Twitter: @LawAndChaosPod Patreon: patreon.com/LawAndChaosPod  

Trump’s first criminal trial gets underway in Manhattan, even as he fights to get the court to accept his hinky bond in the civil fraud case.    Links:   NYAG Opposition to Trump/Knight Surety Bond https://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/nyscef/ViewDocument?docIndex=E/oR7WnxPeT2tSnZpOGlBA==    Trump Civil Trial NY, Selected Docs at Just Security https://www.justsecurity.org/89120/clearinghouse-new-york-attorney-general-corporate-fraud-case/    Trump False Business Records Case, Selected Docs at Just Security https://www.justsecurity.org/89089/clearinghouse-2016-election-interference-case-manhattan-district-attorney/    Show Links: https://www.lawandchaospod.com/ BlueSky: @LawAndChaosPod Threads: @LawAndChaosPod Twitter: @LawAndChaosPod Patreon: patreon.com/LawAndChaosPod  

Hey guys, it’s Liz Dye, and we’ve got some big, exciting changes coming your way next week. It’s all still in process, but I can tell you now that we’ll be shifting our podcast drops from Monday/Friday to Tuesday/Friday and ramping up the written content, as well. So, heads up, the next show will be in your feed Tuesday, not Monday.    But today, I’m so excited to talk to a personal hero of mine, Marcy Wheeler. This woman is relentless! If you want to understand what’s going on with the Biden prosecution, you have got to read her site emptywheel.net. But before we get into the show I think we need to spend a bit of time discussing the cast of characters and timeline here, because if you’re not up to your eyeballs in it all the time, the details can get a little fuzzy. And I’m going to put the text of this intro in the show notes with a million links, for you to follow along if you like. So, here goes.   President Biden’s son Hunter has battled addiction for much of his adult life. He’s also done some questionable things to earn money to support his family. Those things generally fall under the category of distasteful but legal, not to say quotidian. It’s a dirty, little NOT AT ALL secret that DC runs on access, and family members routinely market themselves as conduits to their powerful relatives. E.g., Ginni Thomas, who is nutty as a fruitcake, and collects hundreds of thousands of dollars a year from people with a stake in shaping the Supreme Court.   In 2019, as Biden was emerging as a candidate to take on Trump, the Republican smear machine was looking for dirt. And so they turned to the same dirt merchants that managed to muddy up Hillary Clinton. Clinton was dogged for years with allegations that she’d “sold America’s uranium stockpiles to Russia” to benefit a donor to the Clinton Global Initiative. That story was ridiculous — she was Secretary of State at a time when the State Dept was one of eight agencies that had to approve the sale of a mining company called Uranium One to a Russian conglomerate. And the supposed CGI donor who would have benefited, had sold his shares before the deal was approved. But that didn’t matter to Peter Schweizer, a Breitbart editor and Steve Bannon ally who wrote a book called “Clinton Cash” and laundered this nonsense into the collective consciousness. And in 2018, he did the same thing with Joe Biden.    As VP, Biden had made a speech in 2015 pressing the Ukrainian government to fire a corrupt prosecutor named Viktor Shokin. It was the consensus of the entire US government, as well as the entire international establishment, that Shokin had to go if Ukraine was ever going to get its house in order. Nevertheless, Schweizer wrote a book called “Secret Empires” in which he alleged that Biden was unilaterally forcing out this prosecutor to protect a Ukrainian oil company called Burisma which employed his son as a board member. I wrote about it at the time as Ukranium One. And if you hear me shittalking NYT reporter Ken Vogel, that’s why. Because when Rudy Giuliani started flogging this nonsense about Burisma, Vogel treated it as if it might be true. And it was very clearly NEVER true. It was Uranium One all over again, and it’s been the same shit for five years now. And when Trump pressured Ukraine’s President Volodymyr Zelenskyy to “do us a favor though,” this is what he wanted. He wanted the Ukrainian government to say it was investigating this bullshit as if it were real.   So in 2019 Rudy Giuliani waddled off to Ukraine in search of proof of this concocted story, where he got fed Russian propaganda by a Russian spy named Andrey Derkach, who was later sanctioned by Trump’s own Treasury Department for using that Russian propaganda to influence the 2020 election. But Trump didn’t give a shit about that, and neither did Bill Barr, they set up Scott Brady, the US Attorney in Pittsburgh, as Rudy’s personal disinformation concierge to go chasing down his lies about Joe and Hunter Biden. Remember, Rudy was alleging that Joe and Hunter Biden had smuggled literally hundreds of millions of dollars out of the country. It was just utter nonsense. This investigation was tainted from the jump.   Brady was the one who kicked up Alexander Smirnov, the FBI informant who suddenly remembered in 2020 that Burisma executives had bragged to him in 2017 about bribing Joe and Hunter Biden. This was an obvious lie, for a whole bunch of reasons, but in 2023, Republicans in Congress get wind of it, and they decide that they’ve finally found the one true witness who will make all of Rudy’s lies about Joe Biden true. Instead Smirnov was indicted earlier this year for lying to the FBI.   Barr also tapped a second US Attorney, David Weiss, in Delaware, to investigate Hunter Biden with the unstated goal of trying to dirty up Joe Biden. Weiss was largely focused on Biden’s failure to pay taxes in 2018 and 2019 when he was in the throes of addiction. He also investigated Biden for having lied on a gun application where he checked the box that said “I swear I’m not a drug addict.”   At the same time, there was a legally blind computer repair dude in Delaware named John Paul Mac Isaac who claimed to have Hunter Biden’s laptop. He says that Biden abandoned three devices in his store and never came back for them, and so Mac Isaac had a right to open up them up and look at what was inside. And because Biden’s phones were autosaving to his hard drive, it was basically his whole sad and sordid life. Pictures of his brother Beau dying of cancer. Pictures of Hunter descending into addiction. Pictures of Hunter doing drugs and having sex. Plus every text and email and bank statement he’d sent for years. And Mac Isaac turned the thing over to Rudy Giuliani and his lawyer Robert Costello, who tried to weaponize it somehow against Joe Biden.   I think we all know a fair bit about the laptop, to the extent that there’s “one” laptop. But as Marcy has pointed out, the chain of custody on this stuff is totally murky, and it’s basically useless as evidence.   So, during much of the first half of 2023, Hunter Biden’s lawyers are negotiating with David Weiss to get a global deal to shut the investigation down. Hunter Biden had paid all his taxes, he was sober and in recovery and he just wanted to be done. But at the same time, political pressure was ratcheting up like crazy from Republicans in Congress, particularly after these two supposed IRS whistleblowers came forward claiming that the investigation had been slow walked. Those two guys are named Gary Shapley and Joseph Zeigler, and their testimony, like that of Scott Brady, who also testified before Congress, was highly problematic.    But at some point last summer, the pressure on Weiss seems to have overwhelmed him, and he backed away from the plea deal he’d already negotiated with Biden’s lawyers. And in a dramatic hearing in July of 2023, the whole thing imploded.    Hunter Biden has now been indicted in California on tax charges, and in Delaware on the gun charges. He’s claimed that he has a right to enforce the original plea deal which would shield him from prosecution. And he claims that the prosecution was tainted from the beginning by political bias, which … clearly it was. He’s also filed lawsuits against the IRS and various figures in this case, including Giuliani and Costello, in an attempt to both stop them constantly slandering him and to shake loose information which would help his case.   Look, it’s a whole lot. And I guess the most important thing to understand, even if you can’t follow every strand of this story, is that the entire case had its genesis in Trump’s efforts to stop Joe Biden from becoming president, and we’re here now because Republicans in Congress wanted to impeach Biden, or at least make sure he didn’t get a second term in office.    Show Links: https://www.lawandchaospod.com/ BlueSky: @LawAndChaosPod Threads: @LawAndChaosPod Twitter: @LawAndChaosPod Patreon: patreon.com/LawAndChaosPod  

On the eve of Trump’s first criminal trial, Liz sits down with Forbes reporter Zach Everson for a trip down memory lane, recounting the breathtaking corruption of Trump’s first term. Plus, Texas AG Ken Paxton loses a round in DC against Media Matters.   Links: Zach Everson’s Substack on the Trump Hotel https://www.1100pennsylvania.com/  How a Nigerian Presidential Candidate Hired a Trump Lobbyist and Ended Up in Trump’s Lobby https://www.wnycstudios.org/podcasts/trumpinc/episodes/trump-inc-nigerian-presidential-candidate-hired-trump-lobbyist-trumps-lobby  Previously Obscure Attorney Lands Big Payday Representing Trump In High-Profile Lawsuits https://www.forbes.com/sites/zacheverson/2024/03/24/previously-obscure-attorney-lands-big-payday-representing-trump-in-high-profile-lawsuits/?sh=289be08523dd  MMFA v. Paxton [Docket via Court Listener] https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/68166936/media-matters-for-america-v-paxton/    Show Links: https://www.lawandchaospod.com/ BlueSky: @LawAndChaosPod Threads: @LawAndChaosPod Twitter: @LawAndChaosPod Patreon: patreon.com/LawAndChaosPod

Liz talks to journalist Chris Geidner about the lawless Fifth Circuit, which is now snatching cases back from other Circuits — and even from their own District Courts — in a mad rush to stop the Biden administration from protecting workers and consumers.    Links: https://www.lawdork.com/ The Fifth Circuit's lawlessness is now spreading from California to D.C. https://www.lawdork.com/p/fifth-circuit-venue-nlrb-spacex-cfpb-chamber  Chamber of Commerce v. CFPB (Fifth Circuit Docket via Court Listener) https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/68371345/chamber-of-commerce-v-cfpb/ Chamber of Commerce v. CFPB (Trial Docket via Court Listener) https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/68319595/chamber-of-commerce-of-the-united-states-of-america-v-consumer-financial/  In re: Space Exploration Technologies (Fifth Circuit Docket via Court Listener) https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/68274955/in-re-space-exploration-technologies/ Space Exploration Technologies Corp. v. NLRB (Trial Docket via Court Listener) https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/68136196/space-exploration-technologies-corp-v-national-labor-relations-board/    Show Links: https://www.lawandchaospod.com/ BlueSky: @LawAndChaosPod Threads: @LawAndChaosPod Twitter: @LawAndChaosPod Patreon: patreon.com/LawAndChaosPod  

This weekend Donald Trump compared himself to Nelson Mandela. Liz talks with Lawfare’s Anna Bower, who lives out of a suitcase covering the Trump trials beat, to see if she agrees. Plus, WTF is going on with Trump’s bond in the New York civil fraud trial?   Links:   Trump’s Lawyers Told the Court That No One Would Give Him a Bond. Then He Got a Lifeline, but They Didn’t Tell the Judges. https://www.propublica.org/article/trump-bond-disclosure-appeals-court-hankey    Businessman behind Trump's NY bond says he charged him a 'low fee'  https://www.reuters.com/legal/businessman-behind-trumps-ny-bond-says-he-charged-him-low-fee-2024-04-05/   US v. Trump [SDFL Docket via Court Listener] https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/67490069/united-states-v-trump/    People of NY v. Trump [Court docs via Just Security] https://www.justsecurity.org/89089/clearinghouse-2016-election-interference-case-manhattan-district-attorney/    State of GA v. Trump [Court docs via Just Security] https://www.justsecurity.org/89123/clearinghouse-georgia-election-interference-case/    Special Counsel Threatens To Go To 11th Circuit, Reminds Judge Cannon What Happened The Last Time She Tried This Shit https://abovethelaw.com/2024/04/special-counsel-threatens-to-go-to-11th-circuit-reminds-judge-cannon-what-happened-the-last-time-she-tried-this-shit/    Trump NY Bond Just As Kosher As His Financial Statements https://abovethelaw.com/2024/04/trump-ny-bond-just-as-kosher-as-his-financial-statements/  Show Links: https://www.lawandchaospod.com/ BlueSky: @LawAndChaosPod Threads: @LawAndChaosPod Twitter: @LawAndChaosPod Patreon: patreon.com/LawAndChaosPod  

Liz talks to veteran legal journalist Mike Sacks about the Supreme Court and the decades-old plan to enshrine minority rule into law. How did the Chief Justice wind up frantically tapping the brakes as his own conservative colleagues are going pedal to the metal? And WTF is going on with Judge Cannon in the Trump docs case?   Links: US v. Trump [SDFL Docket via Court Listener] https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/67490069/united-states-v-trump/    Special Counsel Threatens To Go To 11th Circuit, Reminds Judge Cannon What Happened The Last Time She Tried This Shit https://abovethelaw.com/2024/04/special-counsel-threatens-to-go-to-11th-circuit-reminds-judge-cannon-what-happened-the-last-time-she-tried-this-shit/    Show Links: https://www.lawandchaospod.com/ BlueSky: @LawAndChaosPod Threads: @LawAndChaosPod Twitter: @LawAndChaosPod Patreon: patreon.com/LawAndChaosPod  

Have anti-choice astroturf groups gone too far? Will SCOTUS save medication abortion from the loons at the Fifth Circuit? Liz discusses the arguments in FDA v. Alliance for Hippocratic Medicine with reproductive rights reporter Susan Rinkunas.    Links: FDA v. Alliance Hippocratic Medicine, Transcript and Audio of Oral Arguments https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/audio/2023/23-235  The ‘WTF Is Happening’ Guide to the Supreme Court Abortion Pill Case, by Susan Rinkunas https://www.jezebel.com/the-wtf-is-happening-guide-to-the-supreme-court-abortion-pill-case How Hobby Lobby Could Be Trump’s Reproductive Rights Wrecking Ball, by Susan Rinkunas https://newrepublic.com/article/179622/hobby-lobby-comstock-alito-contraception  Alliance for Hippocratic Medicine v. FDA  [District Court Docket via Court Listener] https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/65768749/alliance-for-hippocratic-medicine-v-us-food-and-drug-administration/  Alliance Hippocratic Medicine v. FDA [5th Circuit Docket via Court Listener] https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/67164167/alliance-hippocratic-medicine-v-fda/  Alliance for Hippocratic Medicine v. FDA [SCOTUS Docket] https://www.supremecourt.gov/search.aspx?filename=/docket/docketfiles/html/public/23-235.html  Comstock Act, 18 USC § 461 https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1461?quicksearch=18&quicksearch=461    Show Links: https://www.lawandchaospod.com/ BlueSky: @LawAndChaosPod Threads: @LawAndChaosPod Twitter: @LawAndChaosPod Patreon: patreon.com/LawAndChaosPod  

States are banning it, employers are blocking it, and now the US government is trying to steal it. What’s with all the noise around TikTok? TechFreedom’s Corbin Barthold explains why politicians need to take several giant steps back and stop trying to tell kids how to do the internet.    Links: A Breakdown of the Bizarre Factions Fighting Over the TikTok Ban Bill, by Corbin Barthold https://plus.thebulwark.com/p/tiktok-ban-bizarre-factions-strange-bedfellows   H.R.7521 - Protecting Americans from Foreign Adversary Controlled Applications Act https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/7521    TikTok v. Knudson [Trial Docket, MT ban case] https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/67413418/tiktok-inc-v-knudsen/    MT SB419 https://leg.mt.gov/bills/2023/billhtml/SB0419.htm    Show Links: https://www.lawandchaospod.com/ BlueSky: @LawAndChaosPod Threads: @LawAndChaosPod Twitter: @LawAndChaosPod Patreon: patreon.com/LawAndChaosPod  

Liz discusses all the Trump civil and criminal trials with New York litigator Mitchell Epner. Will Trump be able to pay that $454 million bond with the proceeds from taking Truth Social public? We’ll break it down.   Links:   Carroll v. Trump (I) [Docket via Court Listener] https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/18418220/carroll-v-trump/   Carroll v. Trump (I) — Denial of Rule 59 Motion https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.590045/gov.uscourts.nysd.590045.212.0_1.pdf    US v. Trump [SDFL Docket via Court Listener] https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/18418220/carroll-v-trump/    SDFL — Order re Jury Instructions https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.flsd.648652/gov.uscourts.flsd.648652.407.0.pdf   Trump v. ABC [Docket via Court Listener] https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/68351681/trump-v-american-broadcasting-companies-inc/    Trump SPAC Disclosure to SEC https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1849635/000119312524036093/d408563ds4a.htm    Show Links: https://www.lawandchaospod.com/ BlueSky: @LawAndChaosPod Threads: @LawAndChaosPod Twitter: @LawAndChaosPod Patreon: patreon.com/LawAndChaosPod  

Recent revelations have shone a spotlight on the Supreme Court’s broken ethics rules, and boy are the justices mad about it. We talk to Gabe Roth, executive director of Fix the Court about the problem and what to do about it. But first, a breakdown of Trump’s appeal of Judge McAfee’s denial of the motion to disqualify DA Fani Willis in Georgia.   Links:   Fix the Court https://fixthecourt.com/    O.C.G.A. § 5-6-34 https://law.justia.com/codes/georgia/2020/title-5/chapter-6/article-2/section-5-6-34/   Motion for Certificate of Immediate Review https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/24485326/trump_motioncertificateimmediatereview.pdf   Certificate of Immediate Review https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/24489448/mcafee_certificateimmediatereview.pdf   Show Links: https://www.lawandchaospod.com/ BlueSky: @LawAndChaosPod Threads: @LawAndChaosPod Twitter: @LawAndChaosPod Patreon: patreon.com/LawAndChaosPod  

Liz talks to voting rights expert Jamie Lynn Crofts about the court order which forced Republicans in Wisconsin to surrender their stranglehold gerrymander. How will fair maps affect the Badger State? And what lessons can we learn for the country as a whole?   Links:   All Voting Is Local https://allvotingislocal.org/    Clarke v. Wisconsin Election Commission, OPINION https://www.wicourts.gov/sc/opinion/DisplayDocument.pdf?content=pdf&seqNo=745249    US v. Trump [SDFL Docket via Court Listener] https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/67490070/united-states-v-trump/   State of Georgia v. Trump [Court Docs via Just Security] https://www.justsecurity.org/89123/clearinghouse-georgia-election-interference-case/    State of New York v. Trump [Court Docs via Just Security] https://www.justsecurity.org/89089/clearinghouse-2016-election-interference-case-manhattan-district-attorney/    Show Links: https://www.lawandchaospod.com/ BlueSky: @LawAndChaosPod Threads: @LawAndChaosPod Twitter: @LawAndChaosPod Patreon: patreon.com/LawAndChaosPod  

Liz talks to Diana Florence, a litigator in New York who spent 24 years in the Manhattan District Attorney’s Office. They break down the upcoming Trump trial for creating false business records as part of the scheme to disguise the Stormy Daniels hush money payment as legal fees. What should you expect in the first Trump criminal trial? Tune in for a former NY prosecutor’s take!   Links:   Trump Notice Regarding Advice of Counsel Defense https://www.justsecurity.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/Just-Security-NY-2016-Election-Interference-Trump-Clearinghouse-%E2%80%94-Trump-notice-concerning-his-intent-to-rely-on-an-advice-of-counsel-defense-March-11-2024.pdf    Trump Motion to Exclude Evidence and Adjourn Case Based on Presidential Immunity https://www.justsecurity.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/Just-Security-NY-2016-Election-Interference-Trump-Clearinghouse-%E2%80%94Trump-motions-to-exclude-evidence-and-for-an-adjournment-based-on-Presidential-Immunity-March-11-2024.pdf    People’s Notice Regarding the Production of Records from the US Attorney’s Office and Consent to Adjournment https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/24481447/20240314-peoples-notice.pdf    Show Links: https://www.lawandchaospod.com/ BlueSky: @LawAndChaosPod Threads: @LawAndChaosPod Twitter: @LawAndChaosPod Patreon: patreon.com/LawAndChaosPod  

Liz talks to Arizona litigator Tom Ryan about how his state’s GOP learned to stop worrying and love the loon. We’ll cover all Kari Lake’s litigation — she’s having no luck as a plaintiff, and even less as a defendant. And we’ll talk about what’s next for Democrats and Republicans in the Grand Canyon State.   Links: Richer v. Lake Complaint https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/23858088-richer-v-lake  Petersen v. Fontes Case Docs (via Democracy Docket) https://www.democracydocket.com/cases/arizona-2023-election-procedures-manual-challenge/ US v. Trump (SDFL Docket via Court Listener) https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/67490069/united-states-v-trump/  GOVERNMENT’S OPPOSITION TO DONALD J. TRUMP’S MOTION TO DISMISS COUNTS 1-32 BASED ON PRESIDENTIAL IMMUNITY   https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.flsd.648652/gov.uscourts.flsd.648652.376.0_1.pdf  Jonathan Nez for Congress https://www.jonathannezforaz.com/ Kirsten Engel for Arizona https://www.engelforarizona.com/    Show Links: https://www.lawandchaospod.com/ BlueSky: @LawAndChaosPod Threads: @LawAndChaosPod Twitter: @LawAndChaosPod Patreon: patreon.com/LawAndChaosPod  

On the eve of Ken Paxton’s trial for securities fraud — a mere nine years after he got indicted — Liz talks to Texas Monthly reporter Dan Solomon about the state’s embattled Attorney General. How much worse has he gotten since surviving impeachment? Will he play a role in a future Trump administration? And is this literally hell we are living in now?   Links: Carroll Bond Ruling https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.543790/gov.uscourts.nysd.543790.315.0.pdf  Ken Paxton Argues That Ken Paxton Has Violated Ken Paxton’s Right to a Speedy Trial, by Dan Solomon https://www.texasmonthly.com/news-politics/ken-paxton-securities-fraud-trial-delays/ Show Links: https://www.lawandchaospod.com/ BlueSky: @LawAndChaosPod Threads: @LawAndChaosPod Twitter: @LawAndChaosPod Patreon: patreon.com/LawAndChaosPod  

Should the government be able to order social media platforms to host political speech? Does the First Amendment even exist any more? And do we really have to side with Justice Kavanaugh on this one? Liz talks to TechFreedom’s Corbin Barthold about the Netchoice cases.    Links: Tech Policy Podcast ​​https://podcast.techfreedom.org/  Moody v. Netchoice (Texas Docket) https://www.supremecourt.gov/search.aspx?filename=/docket/docketfiles/html/public/22-555.html Moody v. Netchoice (Florida Docket) https://www.supremecourt.gov/search.aspx?filename=/docket/docketfiles/html/public/22-277.html  TechFreedom’s Amicus Brief in Netchoice https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/22/22-555/292534/20231207074245073_TechFreedom%20VIDED%20amicus%20brief%2022-277%2022-555.pdf Oral Argument Moody v. Netchoice (Florida case) https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/audio/2023/22-277 Oral Argument Moody v. Netchoice (Texas case) https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/audio/2023/22-555    Show Links: https://www.lawandchaospod.com/ BlueSky: @LawAndChaosPod Threads: @LawAndChaosPod Twitter: @LawAndChaosPod Patreon: patreon.com/LawAndChaosPod  

Liz talks to national security law expert Kel McClanahan about the Trump documents case in Florida and how he could use classified materials to derail the trial until after the election.   Links: SCOTUS Order Granting Cert on Trump Immunity Claim https://www.supremecourt.gov/orders/courtorders/022824zr3_febh.pdf US v. Trump [SDFL Docket via Court Listener] https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/67490070/united-states-v-trump/  Classified Information Procedures Act https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?path=/prelim@title18/title18a/node16&edition=prelim   Show Links: https://www.lawandchaospod.com/ BlueSky: @LawAndChaosPod Threads: @LawAndChaosPod Twitter: @LawAndChaosPod Patreon: patreon.com/LawAndChaosPod  

Liz talks to repro law expert Ellen Trachman, host of the podcast “I Want to Put a Baby in You” about the recent Alabama decision which functionally outlaws in vitro fertilization. Is this the beginning of a trend, or will Republicans course correct out of fear of the wrath of women voters?   Links: Ellen Trachman at Above the Law https://abovethelaw.com/author/ellentrachman/ The “I Want to Put a Baby In You” Podcast https://iwanttoputababyinyou.com/ Alabama IVF ruling https://publicportal-api.alappeals.gov/courts/68f021c4-6a44-4735-9a76-5360b2e8af13/cms/case/343d203a-b13d-463a-8176-c46e3ae4f695/docketentrydocuments/e3d95592-3cbe-4384-afa6-063d4595aa1d  Ala. Code § 26-23H-3 https://casetext.com/statute/code-of-alabama/title-26-infants-and-incompetents/chapter-23h-the-alabama-human-life-protection-act/section-26-23h-3-definitions  Resolve Advocacy Day May 14 for the National Infertility Association https://resolve.org/events/advocacy-day/  Trump Civil Fraud Judgment https://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/nyscef/ViewDocument?docIndex=nXeA3RG/pYddgehBHovUPw== Carroll v. Trump, Docket via Court Listener https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/18418220/carroll-v-trump/  Show Links: https://www.lawandchaospod.com/ BlueSky: @LawAndChaosPod Threads: @LawAndChaosPod Twitter: @LawAndChaosPod Patreon: patreon.com/LawAndChaosPod

Liz talks to reporter Brandi Buchman about the prosecutions of the Proud Boys and the Oath Keepers for seditious conspiracy and how those prosecutions paved the way for Trump’s election interference case.    Links: In Re: Lindell Management LLC Litigation [Docket via Court Listener] https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/67410449/in-re-lindell-management-llc-litigation/ Brandi Buchman at Law and Crime https://lawandcrime.com/author/brandi-buchman/ US v. Trump [District DC Docket via Court Listener] https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/67891889/united-states-v-donald-trump/  US v. Trump [SDFL Docket via Court Listener] https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/67490069/united-states-v-trump/  Links: https://www.lawandchaospod.com/ BlueSky: @LawAndChaosPod Threads: @LawAndChaosPod Twitter: @LawAndChaosPod Patreon: patreon.com/LawAndChaosPod