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LetsRun.com's weekly podcast where we go behind the scenes of the professional running, marathoning, and track and field world. If you want a second podcast every week join out Supporters Club https://www.letsrun.com/subscribe
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It's the final pod before Christmas and we've got a packed episode! Evan Jager joins us at 52:45 to put a bow on his incredible career.
The Marathon Project 2.0 results are in — Priscah Cherono wins the women's race at age 45 in a 2+ minute PB, while JP Flavin takes the men's title and Turner Wiley runs 2:09 as an unsponsored father working full-time with D2 college PRs. Ben Rosa becomes the youngest person in history to break 4:00 in the mile and 2:10 in the marathon in the same year. Plus: World Cross Country team announcements from France and Ethiopia, the Emily Venters/Evelyn Kimboy NCAA controversy and what it reveals about FERPA, and our full exit interview with Evan Jager reflecting on his incredible steeplechase career — the 2015 Paris fall, Olympic silver, the Oregon Project split, Fancy Bears, and his new job with Nomio in Sweden.
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Links:
Marathon Project Results
Marathon Project Experience Thread
Emily Venters/Evelyn Kimboy Discussion Thread
World XC Course Preview
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Timestamps:
00:00 Intro & Holiday Gift Plug
01:06 Introductions, Patriots/Ravens talk, Christmas cards
04:01 Weldon's Central Park run
08:06 Marathon Project Women's Race —
Priscah Cherono
wins at 45
12:12 Marathon Project Men's Race —
JP Flavin
,
Turner Wiley
,
Ben Rosa
18:34 Ivy League Runner of the Week: Ben Rosa
21:14 Blue Collar Runner of the Week: Turner Wiley
25:38 Marathon Project viability discussion
28:54
Paul Chelimo
marathon pr (2:10:55)
31:58
World Cross Country
Preview — France & Ethiopia teams
41:21
Emily Venters/Evelyn Kimboy
NCAA controversy
46:21 RoJo's FERPA rant
52:15
EVAN JAGER INTERVIEW START
53:28 Impact on American distance running
54:57 Reflections on retirement
59:54 Turning pro at 19 with
Jerry Schumacher
65:30 The brutal first year with Bowerman
70:23
Alberto Salazar
& Oregon Project history
75:55 Transition to steeplechase
83:42 The iconic 2015
Paris Diamond League
fall
99:49
Rio Olympics
silver medal
107:22 2018 injury and career derailment
110:45
Fancy Bears
leak response
116:58 Thoughts on
Shelby Houlihan
124:34 How he wants to be remembered
127:59 The hair evolution
131:19 Rapid fire: Best kicker (
Ezekiel Kemboi
), greatest rival (
Conseslus Kipruto
)
136:12 New job with
Nomio
in Sweden
141:29 His daughter's athletic future
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Rosario breaks down the 2025 men's and women's races for you. It's Sunday morning at 9:15 am ET.
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It's mid-December and the running news keeps coming! Grand Slam Track filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy — we dig into the creditor list, the shocking $272K owed to Citius Mag, and what it reveals about the league's spending. On Friday, we broke the news that Athing Mu has left coach Bobby Kersee and moved to Dallas — what's next for her? Plus race recaps from the Brooks XC Championships, the Kalakaua Merrie Mile in Hawaii, and European Cross Country in Portugal.
279.26 we're joined by Yared Nuguse, who previews his quest for a fourth straight Wanamaker Mile title at the Millrose Games on February 1st. Can he break the world record in the indoor mile again?
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Grad Slam Track Bankruptcy & Creditors List Article
The Athletic: Grand Slam Track Fundning Breakdown
Athing Mu Leaves Bobby Kersee Article
Brooks XC Championships Results
European Cross Country Results
Euro XC finish video that Jon got 1 million views on
Kalakaua Merrie Mile Results
The Marathon Project Info
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Timestamps:
00:00 LetsRun Holiday Merch Plug —
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01:27 Introductions
03:00 Grand Slam Track Bankruptcy — Creditor list breakdown, athletes owed money
03:23 Flashback: Jonathan Gault's question to Michael Johnson in Jamaica
05:44 Citius Mag paid $272K by Grand Slam Track — Disclosure controversy
08:07 Grand Slam's financial relationship with media outlets
11:37 Athlete Appearance Fee Analysis — Reverse engineering what stars were paid (Sydney McLaughlin, Gabby Thomas, Josh Kerr, etc.)
15:23 How much did Grand Slam actually raise and spend?
19:42 Production costs & other creditors — $3M to TV production, $690K for graphics
24:55 Athing Mu Leaves Coach Bobby Kersee — Moved to Dallas, no new coach announced
26:06 LetsRun Supporters Club plug — Emergency podcast for members
28:36 Speculation: Is Athing Mu retiring? Pregnant? Finding a new coach?
31:46 Top Coach Candidates for Athing Mu — Justin Rinaldi, Chris Catton, Chris Cappo
35:27 Training group concerns for Mu in Dallas
38:36 Brooks XC Championships Recap — Jackson Spencer wins boys, Natasha Dudek wins girls
39:54 NXN vs. Footlocker/Brooks — Do we need two national championships?
45:02 Purpose of dual national championships debate
49:25 Jakob Ingebrigtsen Skips European Cross Country — Injury concerns
53:11 European Cross Country Recap — Jimmy Gressier vs. Thierry Ndikumwenayo, Nadia Battocletti wins women's
55:31 Jonathan's viral tweet of the men's finish
57:51 Nick Griggs (Ireland) & Innes Fitzgerald (UK) — Rising young stars
61:19 Kalakaua Merrie Mile Recap — Josh Hoey wins men's (3:55), Sinclaire Johnson wins women's (4:21 American Record)
65:43 Analysis: Hoey, Hobbs Kessler, Yared Nuguse, Nico Young, Ollie Hoare
71:43 Women's Mile: Sinclaire Johnson dominates Nikki Hiltz
75:23 USA Indoors 1500m Preview — Could be one of the greatest races ever
77:08 The Marathon Project Preview — Paul Chelimo's marathon debut
79:26 Interview: Yared Nuguse
—
Wanamaker Mile
preview, going for 4th straight title
83:00 Will Yared step up to the 2-mile at Millrose?
85:13 Reflecting on the 2025 season — Highs and lows
87:40 Changing tactics for USAs
90:05 Thoughts on the World Championship 1500m Final
92:12 Was Cole Hocker's DQ fair?
95:49 Indoor Season Plans — Targeting the 1500m at World Indoors
97:53 Training dynamics with Geordie Beamish
100:26 Racing the Merrie Mile in Hawaii
102:43 Goals for the 2026 Season — 5K attempt, mile record chase
108:06 The collapse of Grand Slam Track — Yared's perspective as an athlete
115:12 Yared Nuguse on coming out publicly — Reaction from Notre Dame, Ethiopian community, and the running world
121:52 Closing & Holiday Gift Plug — Shop.LetsRun.com
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Fresh off his victory at the US Cross Country Championships, Parker Wolfe joins the LetsRun.com Track Talk podcast. The 2024 NCAA 5,000m champion and now US Cross Country champion discusses his transition to professional running with Nike's Swoosh Track Club in Flagstaff, training alongside Nico Young, his goals for World Cross Country Championships in Tallahassee, and the incredible depth of American distance running. Plus: teammate trash talk with Ethan Strand, the injury that cost him his NCAA title defense, and why he thinks Team USA can medal at World Cross.
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Timestamps:
00:00
Aletheia Run
00:20
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02:06 Introduction: Parker Wolfe, 2024 NCAA Champion & US Cross Country Champion
04:28 Training approach: Strength-based, minimal sharpening
06:08 Winning the National Title - Was he surprised?
08:51 Training with Nico Young at Swoosh Track Club
12:02 Future pro rivalries - Competing with teammates for team spots
14:57 Teammate trash talk with Ethan Strand
17:33 Life in Flagstaff - Roommates with Ethan Strand and Liam Murphy
19:23 What he didn't love about college teams
22:01 Moh Ahmed update - Training with the Canadian star
23:05 World Cross Country goals - Team medal potential
25:55 Make the case: Why fans should go to Tallahassee
28:17 The comeback: Six weeks of training to USAs
29:37 Fifth Avenue Mile - The perfect way to end the season
30:36 Physical therapy family - Both parents are PTs
32:27 The altitude-born advantage - Denver native
34:13 ACC Championship incident with Rocky Hansen
36:17 Turning pro with Nike - Why he chose Swoosh Track Club
38:21 Coach Mike Smith's creative training approach
39:21 Video games & free time - Madden, Fortnite, and movie nights
41:34 Bill Belichick at UNC
43:04 2026 Season Strategy - Millrose two-mile, fast 5K
44:02 World Ultimate Championships consideration
46:39 Depth of US distance running - Grant Fisher, Nico Young, Cole Hocker, Graham Blanks
48:22 Americans winning Diamond Leagues - The new normal
50:35
Parker Wolfe t-shirts plug
51:11
Aletheia Run outro
52:06
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We break down the massive breaking news that Olympic 800m champion Athing Mu has parted ways with coach Bobby Kersee and relocates\d to Dallas.
Plus: Stanford NCAA champion Roisin Willis turns pro early, and Weldon Johnson joins late from all the way out on the West Coast.
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Breaking News: Athing Mu Parts Ways with Coach Bobby Kersee
Official Message Board Discussion on Athing Mu
Roisin Willis Turns Pro
Timestamps:
00:00 Introduction: Emergency Podcast
00:53 Breaking News: Mu leaves Kersee
01:50 Athing Mu's career recap: From Olympic Gold to recent struggles
03:33 Analyzing the 2024 season & "disastrous" results
05:59 The move to Dallas: Who will coach her? (Chris Kapo? Local college coaches?)
10:14 Bobby Kersee's reaction: "I loved her attitude"
13:38 Was it burnout, health, or coaching fit?
17:48 Roisin Willis turns pro early
19:30 Weldon Johnson joins the show
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What a weekend of running! Team USA for next month's World Cross Country Championships in Tallahassee is set, with Parker Wolfe and Weini Kelati your champs as Gracie Morris & Ethan Strand win too. At BU, Josh Hoey obliterated the world indoor record in the 600 meters while Jane Hedengren crushed the NCAA record in the 5,000 in her first collegiate track race. Then on Sunday, John Korir bounced back from his Chicago disappointment to win the Valencia Marathon in a massive negative split, while Joyciline Jepkosgei outlasted Peres Jepchirchir in the first race ever with two women under 2:15. Plus: Olympic triathlon champion Alex Yee ran 2:06, number two Brit ever behind only Mo Farah.
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Meetup in Tallahassee - Town Hall, 3-6 PM after World XC
USA XC results
Josh Hoey 600m World Record Interview
Jane Hedengren BU 5K Race Recap
Valencia Marathon Results
Marco Langan Interview (Warning: F-bombs)
Shelby Houlihan Post-Race Comments
CIM USA Marathon Championships Results
Timestamps:
00:00:00 - Aletheia Run: Train Smarter
00:01:18 - Introductions, Weldon's vacation, prediction contest recap
00:03:17 - Let's Run Meet Up at World XC - Town Hall, 3-6 PM
00:05:45 - Men's USA XC: Parker Wolfe wins, Rocky Hansen impressive 2nd
00:07:20 - USA Track & Field skipping World Relays - budget concerns
00:09:45 - Grant Fisher skipping USA XC discussion
00:11:28 - Team USA medal chances at World XC
00:14:08 - Men's USA XC: Biggest winners & losers - Teare, Hunter, Bosley miss out
00:17:35 - Huge run for Parker Wolfe - why we made the shirts
00:20:27 - Women's USA XC: Kelati wins, Katie Izzo impressive 2nd
00:24:30 - Valby & Tuohy miss the team - what's going on?
00:30:18 - Women's USA XC: NCAA champions struggling as pros
00:35:05 - Grant Fisher at USA XC as spectator
00:36:45 - Mixed Relay Storylines: Gracie Morris & Wes Porter make team
00:40:18 - Alistair & Amy Cragg - Coaches of the Year?
00:42:30 - Atmosphere at USA XC - crowd concerns
00:45:50 - NXN: Jackson Spencer wins, headed to BYU
00:47:38 - Niwot Colorado wins team title - genetics in running debate
00:51:00 - Addy Ritzenhein, genetics, and the nature vs. nurture discussion
00:56:32 - Valencia Marathon Women: Jepkosgei 2:14:00, Jepchirchir 2:14:43
00:58:00 - World #1 Women's Marathon debate: Jepkosgei vs. Assefa vs. Jepchirchir
01:00:15 - Valencia Marathon Men: John Korir dominates
01:02:55 - Non-African born runners & doping discussion
01:04:35 - Alex Yee runs 2:06 - Olympic triathlon champ's marathon debut
01:07:11 - Americans in Valencia: Emma Bates (hemochromatosis diagnosis), Keira D'Amato
01:09:03 - Why is 2:14 the new normal for women's marathoning?
01:13:06 - Male pacers in women's races - is it fair?
01:16:20 - Rojo & Weldon's world record pacing stories
01:19:40 - Josh Hoey obliterates 600m World Record - 1:12.84
01:21:30 - Hoey's split from coach Justin Ranaldi - what happened?
01:27:00 - Can Hoey break the 800m World Record? Heated debate
01:33:21 - Shelby Houlihan's motivation struggles post-suspension
01:40:23 - Jane Hedengren smashes NCAA 5000m Record - 14:44
01:44:40 - Phenoms & burnout - are we pushing too early?
01:48:12 - Other BU Results: Habtom Samuel vs. Marco Langan
01:51:32 - CIM Marathon Results - Molly Born wins, Sarah Hall 2nd at 41
01:54:42 - Upcoming: Brooks XC Championships, European XC Championships
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It's the biggest weekend in American XC running in a generation! The USA Cross Country Championships are Saturday in Portland, Oregon. We break down the men's and women's fields, make our picks for who makes the World XC team, and debate whether the muddy NXN course will play spoiler. Nico Young or Graham Blanks? Weini Kelati or Shelby Houlihan? What about Valby, Tuohy and Jones? Plus: the Valencia Marathon preview with Peres Jepchirchir, Joyciline Jepkosgei, and Americans Emma Bates and Keira D'Amato chasing fast times, and a quick look at the CIM US Marathon Championships in Sacramento.
Show notes & links below.
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CIM US Marathon Championships Info
Timestamps:
00:00
Aletheia Run
Sponsor & Intro — This Friday 15 is FREE!
02:08 USA XC Preview: Overview — The most exciting US Cross Country in 33 years
08:30 Men's Contenders: Cooper Teare & Drew Hunter — Are the track studs ready for the mud?
18:26 Men's Predictions: The Favorites — Graham Blanks vs. Nico Young, who wins?
25:50 Men's Predictions: The Team — RoJo, Weldon, and Gault make their picks
30:31 USA XC Women's Preview: Favorites — Weini Kelati vs. Shelby Houlihan
39:17 Women's Contenders: The Field — Carrie Ellwood, Emma Grace Hurley, Karissa Schweizer & more
45:40 Women's Predictions: The Team — Parker Valby, Katelyn Tuohy debate
48:28 Dani Jones Debate — Former NCAA XC champ enters the 10K, is she a dark horse?
54:50 Shelby Houlihan & Burrito Track Club — Will she wear the shirt for $5,000?
56:56 Mixed Relay Preview — The 4x2K relay picks
59:03 Valencia Marathon Preview: Women's Race — Peres Jepchirchir, Joyciline Jepkosgei headline
1:01:29 The Favorites: Jepchirchir & Jepkosgei — Who takes the win?
1:02:29 Keira D'Amato & Aging — Can she still compete at 41?
1:05:11 Emma Bates Sub-2:20 Goal — Is this her breakout race?
1:07:09 Australian Record Watch — Sinead Diver's 2:21:43 in danger?
1:13:22 Valencia Marathon Preview: Men's Race — Kelvin Kiptum's course record holder status, tactical racing
1:17:50 College Football Rant — Lane Kiffin, Indiana, and why the sport needs a commissioner
1:21:22 US Marathon Championships — CIM in Sacramento, $20K prize purse, Olympic standard bonuses
1:21:50 Outro & Aletheia Run Plug — Have a great weekend!
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It's one of the busiest weeks on the running calendar! The US Cross Country Championships are just days away in Portland, Oregon, the biggest professional cross country race on American soil in decades. Nine of the top 11 American men are entered. We break down who's running, who's skipping (and whether their excuses hold up), and make our picks. Plus: Jane Hedengren's BU 5K debut and NCAA record chase, Josh Hoey's 600m world record attempt, Quincy Wilson's over-the-top college announcement, Grand Slam Track on the verge of bankruptcy, and the controversial World Athletics Athlete of the Year picks that snubbed Beatrice Chebet.
Aletheia Run is sponsoring our US Cross Country coverage this week. Developed by sports scientists in Eugene after two decades of research, it's the only device that gives you a force portrait of your running form, detecting issues invisible to the naked eye. Personalized drills, targeted feedback, and real insight into your biomechanics. Try it free & save 10% with code LETSRUN10 https://www.aletheia.run/start-my-free-trial
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US Cross Country Championships who is in & out
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Thread
Evan Jager exit interview discussion
Grand Slam Track financial news
Timestamps:
00:00
Aletheia Run
1:16 Introductions, Patriots/Ravens talk, Thanksgiving stories
05:24 Aletheia Run wearable
08:18 US Cross Country Championships Preview:
The field
10:46 Who is skipping US Cross? Grant Fisher, Cole Hocker, Dylan Jacobs
19:37 Who is running? Graham Blanks, Nico Young, Cooper Teare
25:47
Supporters Club
& Evan Jager interview plug
27:36 More US Cross entrants: Hacker, Kincaid, Bosley, etc.
33:54 Looking back at the 2019 NCAA XC freshman class (Hocker)
37:47 Wesley Kiptoo, Dan Michalski, Paul Chelimo
40:58 Women's US Cross Preview
41:32 Women skipping: Josette Andrews, Elise Cranny, Alicia Monson
44:45 Morgan Beadlescomb, Bailey Hertenstein, Taylor Roe
47:45 BU 5000m Preview: Jane Hedengren expectations
51:48 Quincy Wilson picks Maryland
58:02 Elise Cranny out
1:00:51 Parker Valby, Katelyn Tuohy in
1:02:35 Former NCAA champ Dani Jones makes a return
1:06:03 Text message of the week: NCAAs & limits on foreigners?
1:15:14 Grand Slam Track asks everyone to take 50% haircut
1:20:20 Nike Cross Nationals (NXN) aned teenage development
1:25:23 BU Season Opener & Josh Hoey's WR attempt
1:27:27 CIM USA Marathon Champs Preview
1:28:40 World Athletics Athlete of the Year Awards controversy - Sydney McLaughlin & Mondo Duplantis win, Melissa Jefferson Wooden and Beatrice Chebet snubbed.
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Evan Jager's officially retired & the NCAA Cross Country Championships are in the books and we break it all down.
We talk Jager’s legacy, course cutting, foreign recruiting, Hedengren vs Lemngole, OSU’s dynasty, Rocky Hansen’s breakout, Ryan Schoppe’s heroics, and more.
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00:00 Black Friday Deals and why the Supporters Club Gift Membership at 67 dollars is a no brainer
00:35 Evan Jager audio from the iconic Paris fall
01:40 Start of the show
03:00 Evan Jager’s career and the race that defined him
08:35 The impact Jager had on US distance running
14:15 Jager betting on himself as a freshman
17:45 LetsRun small talk from nationals weekend
28:45 Course cutting at NCAAs and what should have been done
44:50 Rojo’s near death driving adventure
47:29 Do runners ever get DQd in cross country
52:27 Breaking down Jane Hedengren and Doris Lemngole’s race
58:20 NC State is officially a dynasty
01:04:03 The foreigner debate
01:06:53 A team of all star Americans would have finished
01:11:09 Rojo gets to the bottom of the foreign explosion
01:23:10 Men’s race analysis
01:25:06 Simeon Birnbaum and Connor Burns
01:28:36 Ryan Schoppe fifth man of the week plus Where Your Dreams Become Reality Runner of the Week
01:31:09 Sadie Engelhardt steps up
01:34:04 Closing thoughts and upcoming events
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The NCAA Cross Country Championships are Saturday and we break them down.
Can Jane Hedengren be the first freshman to win NCAAs on the women’s side in 40 years? Is she as fit as any American ever?
Can Habtom Samuel get over the hump? What about Brian Musau and Rocky Hansen?
Will NC State and Oklahoma State climb atop the podium once again?
USATF’s books are out and we break them down.
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Thread of the Week: Will Jane Hedengren's height hold her back?
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NCAA Cross Country is RUINED – Florida Women, OSU, New Mexico thread
New NCAA ranking system
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Timestamps:
00:00 Join Us at the NCAA Cross Country Event!
00:29 Shop.letsrun.com
01:05 Enter NCAA Prediction Contest
01:52 Welcome to the Let's Run Track Talk Podcast
03:44 Faith in Humanity Restored
04:41 NCAA shirts?
09:17 Jane Hedengren Hype
15:41 As fit as any American ever?
24:48 Diljeet Taylor's comments & Jane's training
30:25 Jenny Simpson?
32:24 Thread of Week: Is Jane too tall?
34:59 Men's NCAA Cross Country Contenders: Habtom Samuel, Brian Musau, & Rocky Hansen
39:56 MacBook Air $250 off → only $749
41:34 Rocky Hansen and the Changing Landscape of NCAA Cross Country
45:46 Men's team contenders
48:16 Rocky Hansen's Potential and Performance
50:52 Impact of NIL and Scholarship Changes
54:31 Men's team title contenders
01:02:42 Women's team title
01:09:59 Coaches who don't suck
01:14:07 USATF 2024 Financials and Sponsorship Issues
01:29:57 Enter our contest
01:30:58 Shoe Deals
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Marathon standout Fiona O'Keeffe joins the Let's Run podcast to discuss her recent fourth-place finish at the New York City Marathon, where she set the fastest time ever by an American woman on the course. Fiona covers her training regimen with Puma Elite, coached by Alistair and Amy Cragg, and reflects on her experiences at the 2024 US Olympic Marathon trials and the challenges she faced during the Olympic marathon in Paris.
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US Olympic Marathon Trials champion Fiona O'Keeffe joins us at 55:03 to break down her 4th-place finish at the NYC Marathon, how she rebounded from Olympic heartbreak, and what it's like training under Amy and Alistair Cragg. She opens up about her workouts, recovery from injury, and her long-term goals for 2026 and beyond.
Before that, we dive into a wild week in track and field:
USADA quietly banned Marvin Bracy, the 2022 World 100 m silver medalist, for nearly four years after he provided "substantial assistance" in a federal doping investigation involving the AIU and the DEA. The story first broke through former sprinter Rae Edwards (RaesTake), who claimed Bracy had been serving a secret suspension and said Bracy's then-coach Dennis Mitchell tipped off the authorities after Bracy confided in him about using a PED.
The case has sparked major questions about transparency, informants, and how far USADA should go in keeping suspensions hidden.
Plus, the IOC bans males from women's sports, Conner and Kylie Mantz headline the Two Cities Marathon, Elise Cranny may be training with Keely Hodgkinson in the UK, and much more.
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0:00 Marvin Bracy Popped and Fiona O'Keeffe Teased
0:23 Introduction and Weekly Highlights
1:31 Revisiting Fiona O'Keeffe's Olympic Marathon
7:15 The Impact of Super Shoes
12:13 Olympics Ban on Males in Women's Sports
19:10 Marvin Bracy's Secret Doping Ban
20:55 Rae Edwards and Dennis Mitchell's Role
30:00 Secret Suspensions and Transparency Debate
32:39 Did USADA Let an Olympic Trials Runner Serve a Secret Ban?
36:54 Was the 2022 USA 100 m Sweep a Farce?
40:07 Public Proposals – Yay or Nay?
44:15 Conner and Kylie Mantz at the Two Cities Marathon
49:43 Elise Cranny Training with Keely Hodgkinson?
55:03 Fiona O'Keeffe Interview (NYC Marathon, Comeback, Training, Future)
59:18 Training Insights and Key Workouts
1:02:46 Transition to Marathon Training
1:03:37 Copenhagen Half Experience
1:05:44 Final Reflections and Learnings
1:06:46 Goals and Career Aspirations
1:08:57 Path to the Marathon
1:11:07 College Mileage and Progression
1:12:19 Olympic Trials Victory and Injury
1:14:37 Olympic Race Day Experience
1:19:37 Recovery from Stress Fracture
1:25:43 Future Race Selection and Priorities
1:28:30 College Development and Training Group Dynamics
1:34:21 World Road Running Championships
1:35:51 Super Shoes and Technology
1:37:56 Long-Term Career Plans
1:38:48 Join the Supporters Club
Related Links
WADA Statement: WADA says an athlete who used EPO and steroids competed at an Olympic qualifier and never had their ban announced
Erin Brown Tweet: https://x.com/TheErinBrown/status/1983401964156432668
Joanna Harper story: A Brief History of Intersex Athletes in Sport – LetsRun.com
Rae’s Take tweets (August): https://x.com/search?q=(from%3ARaestaketv)%20until%3A2025-08-18%20since%3A2025-08-01&src=typed_query&f=live
Two Cities Marathon thread: https://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=13864597#post-9
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We break down a record breaking NYC Marathon, the news Grant Fisher is skipping World Cross Country and a lot more.
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Hellen Obiri smashed the New York City Marathon record from 2003 and went sub 2:20 as Benson Kipruto became the first man to win all three major American marathons. American Fiona O'Keefe impressed in 4th as unheralded Joel Reichow was 6th for the US men.
Plus what happened with Jane Hedengren at the Big 12s, should theWorld Athletics Athlete of the Year award process be revamped, and RIP legendary coach Clyde Hart.
Show notes:
00:00 New York records & revelations, Grant Fisher OUT of World cross, Parker Valby's return
00:22 Introduction and Podcast Overview
04:28 Hellen Obiri goes sub 2:20 and gets NYC course record
10:23 American women 4 of the 5 fastest American times ever in NY
19:41 Men's race and crazy finish
24:52 Could Conner Mantz have won?
30:46 The Swiss orienteering guy
36:14 Eliud Kipchoge's Performance and Future Plans
46:49 Where your dreams become reality Joel Reichow first American
51:25 Minnesota Distance Elite impresses
53:01 Nick Thompson's Marathon
54:41 Is Parker Valby back?
59:52 Grant Fisher's skipping world cross
01:03:25 World Cross Country Championships Debate
01:09:25 Des Linden downplays the marathon and shitting yourself during a race 01:13:20 NCAA Cross Country Highlights
01:18:16 Josh Hoey's Coaching Changes
01:26:45 World Athletics AOY "controversy"
01:35:28 Tribute to Clyde Hart
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American 800 star Josh Hoey and his coach Justin Rinaldi have parted ways after Rinaldi helped transform Hoey into one of the top 800m runners in the world, but Hoey didn't make Team USA for the 2025 World Championships in Tokyo. Rojo, Wejo & Jon discuss the reasons behind the split, disagreements over training intensities, and Hoey's tendency to push himself too hard. The hosts express their surprise and disappointment, debating the consequences of this decision on Hoey's future career. Was Josh Hoey's decision wise?
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00:00 Josh Hoey & Justin Rinaldi part ways
00:22 Introduction and Exciting News Teaser
02:48 Revealing the Big News
04:47 Analyzing the Decision
07:45 Statements from Both Sides
12:22 A greek tragedy?
18:13 Alan Webb comparison?
20:03 Josh's Relentless Training Regimen
27:19 Speculations on Josh's Future
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The #1 cross country team in the country is racked by some teamwide suspensions for violations of "team rules" for the rest of the year. World record holder in the marathon Ruth Chepngetich was banned 3 years.
Agnes Ngetich, Yomif Kejelcha, and Andreas Almgren ran fast in Valencia.
Who will go fastest in New York City this weekend? Mini preview of the marathon preview at the end.
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Show notes:
00:00 College doping scandal?, Valencia half, 7th American sub 2:09, New York City Marathon week 00:24 Introduction and Podcast Overview
01:53 Special Announcements and Supporters Club
07:15 Jon's thoughts on Ruth Chepngetich suspension
15:15 Iowa State scandal?
22:36 Florida, Arkansas cases
25:36 Duane Ross & Balco
30:55 Texas Tech won NCAA title with Divine Oduduru who later was popped for doping
36:41 Valencia Half Marathon: World record given a scare by Agnes Ngetich
40:58 Andreas Almgren European record
44:04 Jakob Kiplimo record not ratified, but neither was Grant Fisher's 5000m
50:24 Handling Rumors and Speculations
53:23 Keely Hodgkinson's see through dress gets write-up in Daily Mail
54:37 Kenya's World Cross Country Trials in the books and the team is...
01:03:09 Jakob Ingebrigtsen says he wants 1500, mile & 5k world records
01:06:34 USC Cross Country team's gets beats by a bunch of little girls
01:12:13 USAs Daniel Mesfin wins Dublin Marathon in 2:08:51, 7th American under 2:09 this year
01:20:34 New York City Marathon mini preview
01:21:38 Boston Red Sox's Alex Cora running New York
01:26:14 Sifan Hassan vs Obiri vs Lokedi on women's side
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Nick Thompson, CEO of The Atlantic, former editor-in-chief of Wired, 2:29 marathoner, and daily LetsRun visitor, joins this week’s LetsRun.com Track Talk Podcast to talk about his new book, The Running Ground: A Father, a Son, and the Simplest of Sports (buy it here).
Thompson shares how he went from a decent high school runner to running 2:29 in his 40s and setting the American record for 50K in the 45–49 age group. He opens up about the mental breakthrough that unlocked his improvement, lessons from surviving thyroid cancer, and how running helped him understand his complicated relationship with his father.
Nick talks about why we run, how it fits in our life, and also he tells wild stories about getting fired from 60 Minutes after 59 minutes and being kidnapped in Morocco. Plus some business advice for LetsRun.com, and his thoughts on today’s top track stars.
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00:00 Get The Running Ground for free by joining the LetsRun.com Supporters Club
02:00 Introducing Nick Thompson
03:56 What inspired The Running Ground
05:57 Nick’s realization and running breakthrough
09:31 His complicated relationship with his father
19:32 Balancing running with life and career
23:00 Training and staying injury-free with the Alexander Technique
30:42 Reflecting on Stanford and early running years
34:00 Moving to ultras and the joy of trail running
36:58 Getting kidnapped in Morocco
40:38 Fired from 60 Minutes after 59 minutes
46:20 Nick’s thoughts on today’s track and field stars
54:04 Nick’s advice for LetsRun.com and navigating the AI era
1:00:18 Wrapping up and how to get the book free
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Jane Hedengren blew her NCAA debut out of the park? Could she be the favorite at NCAA cross country?
Joshua Cheptegei's improved in marahton #3 in Amsterdam, but is he even better than Conner Mantz? What about Mo Farah?marathon performances and questions whether he's cut out for the distance, comparing him to other marathoners like Connor Mantz and Mo Farah.
Parker Valby and Katelyn Tuohy are entered in the NYRR 5k. Does that mean they'll do US cross? What about Nico Young, Grant Fisher, and Cole Hocker?
Plus, should they debate Keely Hodgkinson's instagram post?
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00:00 Jane Hedengren debut, Parker Valby & Katelyn Tuohy return, Joshua Cheptegei vs Conner Mantz + Keely Hodgkinson
00:22 Welcome to Track Talk: Introduction and Hosts
02:36 Jonathan Gault's Soccer Pilgrimage
05:26 Jane Hedengren's Collegiate Debut
09:13 Is she the favorite for NCAAs?
14:38 History isn't kind to top hs 5000m runners
16:09 Joshua Cheptegei marathon #3 2:04:52 in Amsterdam
29:09 Conner Mantz vs Joshua Cheptegei
32:42 Cole Hocker at US Cross?
40:24 Who will be ready in December?
41:06 Debate on Cross Country Team Selection
44:54 Katelyn Tuohy and Parker Valby for NYRR 5k
49:28 Who are favorites?
56:01 Supporters Club and upcoming news tease
59:01 Keely Hodgkinson's instagram post
01:07:47 Final Thoughts and Sign-Off
Links: Weekt That Was: Hedengren and Cheptegei
Hedengren's debut
Keely's outfit
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The 2025 Chicago Marathon delivered: Jacob Kiplimo flirted with the world record, Conner Mantz smashed Khalid Khannouchi’s 23-year-old American record with a 2:04:43., and we got to put Ruth Chepngetich’s world record another year in the rear view mirror.
Mantz' joins the show at 1:56:41 to speak with Jonathan Gault about his American record.
Plus, the 2nd Athlos meet in NYC, Femke Bol’s shocking move to the 800 meters, and Wesley Kiptoo’s new U.S. citizenship.
Show notes below.
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0:00 Chicago: Conner Mantz American Record (Guest) +
0:24 Introduction and Episode Overview
4:08 Chicago Marathon 2025: Jacob Kiplimo gives World Record a scare
11:41 What happened to Korir?
16:40 Kiplimo's training
21:49 Conner Mantz's American Record
23:31 Odds of winning a major?
30:03 HOKA NAZ Elite's Alex Masai beat Conner Mantz. How?
40:14 Wesley Kiptoo a U.S. citizen
43:35 Other Americans
47:00 Wesley Kiptoo vs Alex Masai's Future
50:12 Galen Rupp's Comeback
52:04 Women's race: Hawi Feysa goes 2:14:56
54:26 Ruth Chepngetich's world record and positive test
56:23 Should the Rosas have to pay back their commissions?
1:00:34 Jon's question to Kiplimo & his camp's physical reaction
1:07:47 Crazy Marcell Jacobs story
1:12:04 Was Kipchoge not a generational talent in the marathon? Is Kiplimo?
1:19:38 Athlos NYC Track Meet #2 entertains
1:33:28 Comparing Athlos to Other Sports Ventures
1:44:32 Diplo's 5k
1:48:26 Femke Bol's Move to the 800 Meters
1:52:13 Athing Mu's Potential in the 400 Meter Hurdles
1:56:41 Conner Mantz speaks on American recor
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Chicago and Athlos are here.
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In this episode of the Let'sRun Track Talk podcast, the Rojo, Wejo & Jon discuss the upcoming Chicago Marathon featuring Connor Mantz's attempt at breaking Khalid Khannouchi's American record of 2:05:38. Defending champion John Korir and world half marathon record holder Jacob Kiplimo will be competing in a highly anticipated men's field. Could Kelvin Kiptum's world record go down?
The episode also covers the Athlos women's meet in New York, highlighting the middle-distance events with stars like Keely Hodgkinson, Faith Kipyegon and Nikki Hiltz. Additionally, the team recaps their pre-Worlds fantasy draft and debates whether Cole Hocker is the greatest American distance runner ever. They also promote their upcoming bonus episode with Nick Thompson, CEO of The Atlantic, about his memoir and running experiences.
Show notes:
00:00 Music
00:23 Welcome to Let's Run Track Talk Podcast
04:50 Athlos Meet Thursday & Friday in NYC
19:16 Chicago Marathon Preview
22:02 Chicago Marathon Weather & world record talk
30:07 Conner Mantz American Record Discussion
36:02 2:03 for Mantz?
38:15 Rojo's realism
43:49 Galen Rupp's Current Form
6:21 Galen Rupp's Olympic Prospects
49:06 Other notable Americans
56:15 Women's Race: Ruth Chepngetich not back to defend her WR
01:01:18 Ejgayehu Taye debut
01:04:21 Looking back at USA only getting 1 distance medal at Worlds
01:12:51 Greatest American Distance Runner Debate *64 runner bracket
01:30:18 Upcoming Events and Final Thoughts
*64 runner American GOAT bracket
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Chicago and Athlos are here.
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In this episode of the Let'sRun Track Talk podcast, the Rojo, Wejo & Jon discuss the upcoming Chicago Marathon featuring Connor Mantz's attempt at breaking Khalid Khannouchi's American record of 2:05:38. Defending champion John Korir and world half marathon record holder Jacob Kiplimo will be competing in a highly anticipated men's field. Could Kelvin Kiptum's world record go down?
The episode also covers the Athlos women's meet in New York, highlighting the middle-distance events with stars like Keely Hodgkinson, Faith Kipyegon and Nikki Hiltz. Additionally, the team recaps their pre-Worlds fantasy draft and debates whether Cole Hocker is the greatest American distance runner ever. They also promote their upcoming bonus episode with Nick Thompson, CEO of The Atlantic, about his memoir and running experiences.
Show notes:
00:00 Music
00:23 Welcome to Let's Run Track Talk Podcast
04:50 Athlos Meet Thursday & Friday in NYC
19:16 Chicago Marathon Preview
22:02 Chicago Marathon Weather & world record talk
30:07 Conner Mantz American Record Discussion
36:02 2:03 for Mantz?
38:15 Rojo's realism
43:49 Galen Rupp's Current Form
6:21 Galen Rupp's Olympic Prospects
49:06 Other notable Americans
56:15 Women's Race: Ruth Chepngetich not back to defend her WR
01:01:18 Ejgayehu Taye debut
01:04:21 Looking back at USA only getting 1 distance medal at Worlds
01:12:51 Greatest American Distance Runner Debate *64 runner bracket
01:30:18 Upcoming Events and Final Thoughts
*64 runner American GOAT bracket
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