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[Listen Again] Ep. 26: Tim Shanahan Shares about Strategies & Knowledge Building

2023-06-0901:03:35

We talked with the fabulously candid Tim Shanahan about his recent blog post Prior Knowledge, or He Isn't Going to Pick on the Baseball Study that garnered much attention. Should we teach reading strategies? How important is building knowledge? What are reading skills vs. strategies? How frequent should strategy instruction occur in concert with knowledge building? He also weighs in on the current crisis to share his thoughts on how families and educators can best serve students at home.

Ep. 149: Hot Topic Series: Clarifying Differences Between Reading Skills and Reading Strategies

2023-06-0201:03:34

Our conversation today illuminates a hot topic in reading - skills and strategies. What’s the difference? Peter Afflerbach, researcher and professor, shares in the podcast that he and his colleagues surveyed educators and “ten people would give us ten different answers. They were all kind of related, but all different.” Peter explains that with practice, strategies require less deliberate attention. When strategies become effortless and automatic, the reading strategy has become a reading skill. This is bound to change based on complexity of text and topic, so we learn that knowledge plays a critical role in strategy use and comprehension, too. ResourcesClarifying Differences Between Reading Skills and Reading Strategies, The Reading Teacher Teaching Readers (Not Reading): Moving Beyond Skills and Strategies to Reader-Focused Instruction by Peter AfflerbachShedding Light on Reading Skills and Strategies | Shanahan on Literacy Comprehension Skills or Strategies | What’s the difference and does it matter? Connect with usFacebook and join our Facebook Group Twitter Instagram Visit our website to stay connected with Melissa and Lori! Helping teachers learn about science of reading, knowledge building, and high quality curriculum.

[Listen Again] Episode 30: Wild about Wexler: Take 2!

2023-05-2659:41

We had the opportunity to talk (again!) with Natalie Wexler about tips for effective remote learning (read her full article located here), the current intersection of students' virtual learning and strategy-focused instruction (due to lack of knowledge-based, high quality curricula) and how parents are noticing! How can we teach strategies in context while building knowledge? Listen to find out!More recently, Wexler wrote a piece titled How Reading Instruction Oppresses Black and Brown Children, located here. She ends with this quote: "If people truly understood the needless damage being done by our schools every day, they would be out in the streets demanding change." Natalie, we hear you, and WE ARE! We are shouting from the rooftops... or more accurately, shouting from the podcast apps! :)American Educator magazine released an excerpt of The Knowledge Gap - find it here!

Ep. 148: Hot Topic Series: Should You Teach Phonemic Awareness ‘In the Dark’ or with Print?

2023-05-1945:231

What is Phonemic Awareness? It’s one component of your literacy instruction. Phonemic awareness means understanding that spoken words are made of individual sounds called phonemes. We want students to be able to isolate, blend, segment, and more. Can it be ‘done in the dark’? Or should we teach phonemic awareness with print? Listen and learn as we explore this important question (and more) in today’s episode. ResourcesThey Say You Can Do Phonemic Awareness Instruction “In the Dark”, But Should You? A Critical Evaluation of the Trend Toward Advanced Phonemic Awareness Training Ep. 142: Structured Literacy in Small Group TimeChoosing and Using Decodable Texts by Wiley BlevinsPhonemic Awareness vs. Phonics Heggerty What are Phonological Awareness and Phonemic Awareness? Heggerty Free Sample Lessons HeggertyConnect with usFacebook and join our Facebook Group Twitter Instagram Visit our website to stay connected with Melissa and Lori! Helping teachers learn about science of reading, knowledge building, and high quality curriculum.

[Listen Again] Ep. 113: Reading is Rocket Science with Louisa Moats

2023-05-1201:09:05

Why is teaching reading so important? Melissa and Lori have a conversation with Louisa Moats grounded in this article: Teaching Reading is Rocket Science: What Expert Teachers of Reading Should Know and Be Able to Do. Moats asserts that 95% of students can learn to read when taught to do so using evidence-based practices. In this episode, listen as we discuss and define the term science of reading, while connecting decades of research and theory to classroom practice.

Ep. 147: Hot Topic Series: What is Speech to Print?

2023-05-0501:05:44

In this episode, we’ll discuss an approach to teaching foundational skills known as speech to print. The speech to print approach consists of 4 concepts with consistent logic: Letters spell sounds (alphabetic principle) Sounds can be represented by one or more letters Sounds can be spelled different waysSpellings can be pronounced in different ways What is the difference between speech to print and a traditional print to speech approach? What does the speech to print approach look like in practice? What does the research say about this approach? ResourcesTriple R Teaching Podcast related episodes:Print to speech vs Speech to print: What’s the difference?How to add speech to print elements to your phonics instruction Reading SimplifiedPhonicBooks Evidence Based Literacy Instruction (EBLI)Phonics: Speech to Print vs Print to Speech WebinarThe Seidenberg and McClelland (1989) model of visual word recognitionInternational Dyslexia Association Fact Sheet on Phoneme Awareness The Latest Research (And Debate) on Phonological and Phonemic Awareness Instruction by Susan Brady Speech to Print or Print to Speech: What's the difference? blog, by Tami, Phonic BooksWhy Our Children Can't Read and What We Can Do About It, book, Diane McGuinnessStanislas Dehaene: Book, How the Brain Learns to Read and YouTube Video, How the Brain Learns to Read, and Twitter HandleConnect with usFacebook and join our Facebook Group

[Listen Again] Ep. 116: Sonia Cabell on the Importance of Content-Rich ELA Instruction

2023-04-2801:04:07

Dr. Sonia Cabell, Associate Professor at Florida State University, shares the importance of both oral language and content knowledge instruction. Why? Oral language skills underlie our ability to comprehend text. At the same time, the knowledge we bring to a text is THE key determinant on how much we understand that text. This episode speaks to the entirety of the reading rope!

Ep. 146: Reading Comprehension is Not a Skill with Robert Pondiscio

2023-04-2157:02

Robert Pondiscio, Senior Fellow at the American Enterprise Institute (AEI), asserts that reading comprehension is NOT a skill. Yes, good readers use reading skills and strategies to make meaning. But good readers also have a robust knowledge base. There is strong evidence to support knowledge building ELA curriculum, but we continue to wonder about what knowledge, whose knowledge, and how much? ResourcesRecht & Leslie Baseball Study Wanted: A Science of Reading Comprehension movement | The Thomas B. Fordham InstituteReading comprehension is not a “skill” | The Thomas B. Fordham Institute Why doesn’t increasing knowledge improve reading achievement? Tim Shanahan Ep. 124 Innovative Assessment with the Louisiana Assessment Team Melissa and Lori Love Literacy podcastCultural Literacy by E.D. HirschWhat Reading Does for the Mind Cunningham and Stanovich Connect with usFacebook and join our Facebook Group Twitter Instagram Visit our website to stay connected with Melissa and Lori! Helping teachers learn about science of reading, knowledge building, and high quality curriculum.

[Listen Again] Ep. 118: Rethinking Reading Comprehension with Researcher Hugh Catts

2023-04-1456:12

In this episode, researcher Hugh Catts discusses his pivotal piece titled Rethinking How to Promote Reading Comprehension | American Federation of Teachers. He asserts, “Reading comprehension is thinking with a book in your hand.” There are three factors that impact reading comprehension: the reader, the text, and the activity (task or purpose). He talks with Melissa and Lori about the role knowledge plays in reading comprehension, the interaction of the knowledge the text demands vs. the knowledge a student brings to a task, and the implications of knowledge in instruction and assessment.Resources Rethinking How to Promote Reading Comprehension | American Federation of Teachers Language and Reading Research Consortium Study Listening strategies in the L2 classroom: more practice, less studyConnect with us!Facebook and join our Facebook Group Twitter Instagram Visit our website and subscribe to our newsletter. Helping teachers learn about science of reading, knowledge building, and high quality curriculum

Ep. 145: Debunking Balanced Literacy Arguments with Pamela Snow

2023-04-0759:12

Pamela Snow, professor at Latrobe University in Australia, discusses the arguments that keep surfacing when educators are resistant to move away from balanced literacy. You might have heard a few: Systematic phonics teaching is just for Tier 2.The goal of balanced literacy is for children to love reading. Explicit teaching kills the love of reading. Give them time, they’ll catch on or catch up. Teacher should choose what they think is best. Pam’s blog post, Balanced Literacy Bingo, debunks each idea listed above and more. ResourcesThe Snow Report Blog and Balanced Literacy BingoA School Leader’s Sliding Doors Moment by Sue Knight Dear Balanced Literacy Teacher Podcast and Blog La Trobe University’s Short Courses: Introduction, Intermediate, Secondary and Masters in LinguisticsConnect with usFacebook and join our Facebook Group Twitter Instagram Visit our website to stay connected with Melissa and Lori! Helping teachers learn about science of reading, knowledge building, and high quality curriculum.

[Listen Again] Ep. 112: Kareem Weaver on Levers for Literacy Change

2023-03-3101:02:14

In this episode, Melissa and Lori have a candid discussion about change with Kareem Weaver, co-founder of FULCRUM Oakland: Full and Complete Reading is a Universal Mandate. FULCRUM’s goal is to ensure that every Oakland child is an 'on-time' reader provided with full LITERACY: a fundamental civil right, a powerful protection from the school to prison pipeline, and the cornerstone for a life of choice and fulfillment. In this episode, Kareem discusses the change he is fighting for and the elements he believes are necessary to make it happen. Related EpisodesEp. 19: Getting at the Root of the School to Prison Pipeline with NCTQ President, Kate Walsh Ep. 82: [CLEAN] Minneapolis Public School Parents: Accepting Nothing Less Than Evidence-Based Reading in Schools Ep. 100: Trauma and Reading with Dr. Steven Dykstra ResourcesFULCRUM Oakland: Full and Complete Reading is a Universal MandateConnect with usFacebook and join our Facebook Group Twitter Instagram Visit our website to stay connected with Melissa and Lori!

Episode 144: The Science of Reading as More Than a Pendulum Swing

2023-03-2457:49

We want the shift to reading science to be permanent, not perceived as another ‘educational pendulum swing.’ To do this, it’s necessary to recognize what worked and didn’t work within balanced literacy. Today’s guests, UnboundEd’s Lacey Robinson and The Right to Read Project’s Margaret Goldberg, both shifted from teaching using balanced literacy (specifically Lucy Calkins’ Workshop Model, also known as Units of Study) to structured literacy and became powerful literacy advocates in the process. ResourcesSold a Story podcast and other APM Reports by Emily HanfordThe Right to Read Project UnboundEdSeeing the Good in Balanced Literacy... and Moving On by Margaret GoldbergThe Truth About Reading Film website (and trailer)Connect with usFacebook and join our Facebook Group Twitter Instagram Visit our website to stay connected with Melissa and Lori! Helping teachers learn about science of reading, knowledge building, and high quality curriculum.

[Listen Again] Ep. 37: Placing Text at the Center of the ELA Classroom with Meredith Liben & Sue Pimentel

2023-03-1701:11:31

The article Placing Text at the Center of the Standards-Aligned ELA Classroom is a must-read before or after listening to this podcast! Meredith Liben and Sue Pimentel share the true intentions of the CCSS vs. the way they are currently interpreted. They also provide observations about how the Standards play out in classrooms and schools - within HQIM and what happens in absence of HQIM! We ask the gals some tough questions: What does this mean for assessment, especially "data-driven" instruction?What are better ways to assess and track student progress? They are hilarious and smart, and so very relatable. This one is a MUST listen!Read the article that prompted this conversation:Placing Text at the Center of the Standards-Aligned ELA ClassroomVisit our website and subscribe to our newsletter. Follow us!Facebook and join our Facebook Group Twitter Instagram

Ep. 143: Maximizing Small Group Reading Instruction

2023-03-1001:05:551

Today we’ll be talking to a team of authors about a recent article they published on small group instruction, titled Maximizing Small-Group Reading Instruction. We ask and answer important questions about small group instructional time: What is the appeal of small group reading instruction? Why has it been popular? What does the research say? What do we need to know about effective small-group reading instruction? What are some best practices? ResourcesMaximizing Small-Group Reading Instruction (published in The Reading Teacher) Dr. Neena Saha’s Reading Research Recap of this research What Should Small Group Instruction Look Like? Tim Shanahan Reinterpreting the development of reading skills Scott Paris Applying New Visions of Reading Development in Today's Classrooms Kay Stahl Text Project with Freddy Hiebert Choice Words: How Our Language Affects Our Children’s Learning by Peter JohnstonConnect with usFacebook and join our Facebook Group Twitter Instagram Visit our website to stay connected with Melissa and Lori! Helping teachers learn about science of reading, knowledge building, and high quality curriculum.

[Listen Again] Ep. 80: A Primary Teacher's Perspective on Science of Reading, Small Group Instruction, and Sound Walls

2023-03-0344:011

In this episode, Lindsay Kemeny, 2nd grade teacher, gives a deep dive into her evidence-based, small group instruction time. Her journey to the science of reading was necessary and life altering. It led her to clarity on structured, systematic approaches to teaching reading. She discusses informal and formal assessments, how she uses data to determine small groups, and center options for practicing reading and writing. Her best advice? KEEP. IT. SIMPLE! After reading this recent blog by Tim Shanahan, we couldn’t resist asking her about sound walls and how her students use them in her classroom. She shares, “The sound wall is not the main event in my classroom… structured literacy is the main event. The sound wall is a reflection of what’s happening in the classroom.” We discussed the following resources: Epic Books Lindsay’s blog post Sink or Swim: The Appearance of ReadingLinnea Ehri’s work, such as this research The Reading League

Ep. 142: Structured Literacy in Small Group Time

2023-02-2457:37

In today’s episode, we discuss the structure and content of the literacy block. How can we teach using structured literacy in small groups? Kinder teacher Casey Jergens and author Natalie Wexler join us to connect theory and practice. Casey previously taught using a guided (leveled) reading approach with lots of small group time. In recent years, he’s switched to focus on Tier 1 instruction aligned to structured literacy, which supports access for all students. ResourcesElementary Classrooms Are Too Noisy For Kids To Learn by Natalie Wexler Casey’s Twitter HandleNatalie Wexler’s Twitter Handle Connect with usFacebook and join our Facebook Group Twitter Instagram Visit our website to stay connected with Melissa and Lori! Helping teachers learn about science of reading, knowledge building, and high quality curriculum.

[Listen Again] Ep. 22: Leading Urgent Change in Baltimore with Dr. Sonja Santelises

2023-02-1744:54

Ep. 22: Dr. Sonja Santelises joined us to discuss why she saw the urgent need for change in Baltimore City Public Schools, how she set and supported a clear literacy focus through the Blueprint for Success and high-quality curricula, and the ongoing next steps that prevail. She is witty and sharp, but most of all, we appreciate her vision and boundless energy in this admittedly difficult work. Visit OUR WEBSITE to subscribe to our newsletter and podcast! https://www.literacypodcast.com/Connect with Melissa & Lori:TwitterInstagramFacebook

Ep. 141: Literacy Leaders as Agents of Change

2023-02-1059:36

What does it take to disrupt the "way it has always been done"? Dr. Ernie Ortiz, Senior Literacy Engagement Specialist with AIM Institute for Learning and Research, joins us to discuss this important question. As a former teacher, school leader, and current national leader, he realizes that leaders play a critical role in student achievement. The approach leaders take often make or break systems and change within classrooms, schools, and districts. How can a side by side approach with leaders as learners (rather than top down with leaders as managers) be more supportive of schools achieving greatness for students? ResourcesAIM Institute: https://institute.aimpa.org/ Dr. Ernesto Ortiz TwitterWhat is the Science of Reading?, The Reading League Knowledge Matters Campaign Connect with usFacebook and join our Facebook Group Twitter Instagram Visit our website to stay connected with Melissa and Lori! Helping teachers learn about science of reading, knowledge building, and high quality curriculum.

[Listen Again] Ep 92: Talking About the Literacy Block with Two Early Elementary Teachers

2023-02-0356:03

We are honored to talk with two early grade veteran teachers from Vista Peak Exploratory in Aurora, CO. Vista Peak is in Year 4 of Great Minds’ Wit & Wisdom ELA, Geodes, and Wilson Language Fundations… the trifecta! April Evans, grade 1, and Danielle Hunter, grade 3, discuss the transition from piecemeal, low quality curricula materials to high quality materials that focus on building both skills and knowledge. They share how their materials support engagement and excitement in creating a classroom community of learners. What does the literacy block look like in grades 1 and 3? How are knowledge and skills aligned through grade bands? Listen to find out. Decodable Readers Protocol from Student Achievement Partners Visit our website and subscribe to our newsletter. Follow us!Facebook and join our Facebook Group Twitter Instagram

Ep. 140: K-2 Literacy Block Deep Dive

2023-01-2754:521

In today’s episode, we talk with a teacher and interventionist from Blount County, TN, Erin Metz. She provides an in depth walkthrough of her district’s K-2 instructional block time. She’ll share her strategic approach to working with students and teachers during small group instructional time - modeling how to use this time to reinforce accuracy, automaticity, build vocabulary and knowledge in order to solidify comprehension, and more. ResourcesErin Metz Small Group Time YouTube VideoBeverly Tyner’s Lesson PlansGreat Minds Wit & Wisdom ELA and GeodesWilson Language FundationsHeggerty Phonemic Awareness ILA Maximizing Small Group Reading Instruction Connect with usFacebook and join our Facebook Group Twitter Instagram Visit our website to stay connected with Melissa and Lori! Helping teachers learn about science of reading, knowledge building, and high quality curriculum.

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