Monetary Matters with Jack Farley

Fabio Natalucci, CEO of the Anderson Institute for Finance & Economics, joins Monetary Matters to discuss his work at the IMF on the potential risks to the global financial system that the growth of private credit may pose. They also discuss the affects that tariffs will have not just on the economy but the functioning of the financial system.Learn more about the Anderson Institute: https://www.andersen.com/ Follow Jack Farley on Twitter https://x.com/JackFarley96 Follow Monetary Matters on: Apple Podcast https://rb.gy/s5qfyh Spotify https://rb.gy/x56dx5 YouTube https://rb.gy/dpwxez Timestamps: 00:00 Intro 00:48 A Regulator's View of Private Credit 12:58 Private Credit Replacing the Banking System 15:46 New Types of Private Credit Investors 19:34 Private Credit Liquidity 24:11 Private Credit Leverage 29:00 Geographical Regulatory Risks 30:23 Is Private Credit Investment Grade? 36:01 Private Capital's Entry to the Insurance Business 41:49 Derivatives in Private Credit and Collateralized Fund Obligations 45:44 Economic and Financial Implications of Tariffs 01:01:53 The Risk of Foreigners Selling US Assets 01:09:53 Taiwan Life Insurance Markets 01:12:37 Does Trump Want a Weaker Dollar? 01:15:37 Lack of Consumption Ex-US 01:20:29 The Anderson Institute

David Kotok, Co-Founder & Strategic Advisor at Cumberland Advisors, joins Monetary Matters to discuss insights from his new book, “The Fed and the Flu: Parsing Pandemic Economic Shocks.” Kotok cites data over millennia to show that pandemics typically cause natural real interest rates to decline, and productivity and inequality to rise. Kotok argues that we must prepare for the next pandemic and shares his view on the origin of the COVID virus. Part II of an interview recorded on April 4, 2025, with the first part having aired on April 7, 2025.  David Kotok’s book, “The Fed and the Flu: Parsing Pandemic Economic Shocks”:  https://www.amazon.com/Fed-Flu-Parsing-Pandemic-Economic-ebook/dp/B0DCK1ZHJT Paper, “Longer-Run Economic Consequences of Pandemics”: https://www.nber.org/system/files/working_papers/w26934/w26934.pdf Follow Jack Farley on Twitter https://x.com/JackFarley96 Follow David Kotok on Twitter https://x.com/DavidKotokGIC Follow Monetary Matters on: Apple Podcast https://rb.gy/s5qfyh Spotify https://rb.gy/x56dx5 YouTube https://rb.gy/dpwxez

Milton Berg, pioneer in technical market data analysis, explains why he thinks early April was a turning point in the U.S. stock market and why the stock market is likely headed higher. Recorded May 13, 2025 Follow Milton Berg on Twitter https://x.com/BergMilton Follow Jack Farley on Twitter https://x.com/JackFarley96 Follow Monetary Matters on: Apple Podcast https://rb.gy/s5qfyh Spotify https://rb.gy/x56dx5 YouTube https://rb.gy/dpwxez

To view the prospectus for the VanEck Merk Gold ETF (OUNZ), please visit: https://www.vaneck.com/OUNZProspectus Learn more: https://www.vaneck.com/OUNZJack/overview/ Ken Rogoff’s new book on the U.S. Dollar on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Our-Dollar-Your-Problem-Turbulent/dp/0300275315 On Publisher’s site: https://yalebooks.yale.edu/book/9780300275315/our-dollar-your-problem/ Ken Rogoff, renowned economist and author of “Our Dollar, Your Problem: An Insider's View of Seven Turbulent Decades of Global Finance, and the Road Ahead” traces the development of the U.S. Dollar’s rise to world dominance, and he connects it with the trade and capital imbalances that have recently motivated large tariff actions from the United States. Rogoff argues that he thinks the Trump tariff policy through April 30 2025 was somewhat “dumb” but that there is a chance that 10 years from now Trump will be viewed as having been right. Recorded April 30, 2025.  Follow VanEck on Twitter https://x.com/vaneck_us Follow Jack Farley on Twitter https://x.com/JackFarley96 Follow Monetary Matters on: Apple Podcast https://rb.gy/s5qfyh Spotify https://rb.gy/x56dx5 YouTube https://rb.gy/dpwxez

George Magnus, famed economist and Associate at the China Centre Oxford, joins Monetary Matters to discuss how the global trade reset was inevitable because of unsustainable trade imbalances built up prior to the Trump administration. They also discuss the likelihood of tariffs being lowered and the relative strength of the US and China in trade negotiations. Follow George Magnus on Twitter https://x.com/georgemagnus1Follow Jack Farley on Twitter https://x.com/JackFarley96 Follow Monetary Matters on: Apple Podcast https://rb.gy/s5qfyh Spotify https://rb.gy/x56dx5 YouTube https://rb.gy/dpwxez

Jack welcomes Max Wiethe, Other People’s Money podcast host. The two discuss the May Fed meeting, in which Powell repeatedly stressed that the central bank is in a wait and see posture as it gauges how tariffs will impact inflation and growth. The two also discuss shipping volumes, tariff front running, and China’s recent monetary stimulus. Recorded May 7, 2025. Follow Max Wiethe on Twitter https://x.com/maxwiethe Follow Other People’s Money podcast on Twitter https://x.com/OPMpod Follow Jack Farley on Twitter https://x.com/JackFarley96 Follow Monetary Matters on: Apple Podcast https://rb.gy/s5qfyh Spotify https://rb.gy/x56dx5 YouTube https://rb.gy/dpwxez

Today's episode is brought to you by Teucrium. Learn more at: https://bit.ly/4gfI0fe Last Bear Standing joins Monetary Matters to explain why he thinks subpar equity returns are likely. In his words, “ The market’s current decline is not a correction, a bump in the road, or a dip to be bought. We have entered a protracted bear market.” Recorded on May 1, 2025. Follow Last Bear Standing on Twitter https://x.com/LastBearStandng Follow Teucrium on Twitter https://x.com/TeucriumETFs Follow Jack Farley on Twitter https://x.com/JackFarley96 “The Matador”: https://substack.com/@thelastbearstanding/p-162490853 Follow Monetary Matters on: Apple Podcast https://rb.gy/s5qfyh Spotify https://rb.gy/x56dx5 YouTube https://rb.gy/dpwxez

Kara Murphy, CIO of Kestra Investment Management, joins Monetary Matters to share her investment outlook at a time of great uncertainty in global financial markets. Murphy argues that investors are best served taking a long-term approach, and investors with a long-time horizon ought not to spooked by policy-induced short-term gyrations in the stock market. Recorded on May 2, 2025. Follow Kara Murphy on LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/moneywithmurphy/ Follow Jack Farley on Twitter https://x.com/JackFarley96 Follow Monetary Matters on: Apple Podcast https://rb.gy/s5qfyh Spotify https://rb.gy/x56dx5 YouTube https://rb.gy/dpwxez

The first 4 months of 2025 have been highly volatile hurting both equity and fixed income investors alike, but how has the “smart money” faired in this environment? Jack and Max breakdown the performance of hedge funds in Q1 and April of 2025 with data from Citco Fund Services and HFRI. They also discuss the recent moves by Yale and Harvard to sell some of their private equity stakes and other indicators that might signal trouble ahead for PE as an asset class. Follow Jack on X: https://x.com/JackFarley96 Follow Max on X: https://x.com/maxwiethe Follow Other People’s Money on: Apple Podcast https://bit.ly/4e7QJ1M  Spotify https://bit.ly/3Yhaazi  YouTube https://bit.ly/3C63VXR X https://x.com/opmpod

Today's episode is brought to you by Teucrium. Learn more at: https://bit.ly/4gfI0fe Learn more about Teucrium’s Model Commodity Portfolio: https://insights.teucrium.com/commodities1subscribe Golden Grain Cycle: https://insights.teucrium.com/golden-grain-cycle This Fireside Chat is a sponsored conversation with the CEO of Teucrium, Sal Gilbertie. Sal’s company offers access to agricultural commodities such as corn ($CORN), soybeans ($SOYB), wheat ($WEAT), sugar, as well as broad commodity indices ($TAGS & $TILL) and 2x levered Ripple ($XXRP).  Follow Teucrium on Twitter https://x.com/TeucriumETFs Follow Sal Gilbertie on Twitter https://x.com/GilbertieSal Follow Jake Hanley on Twitter https://x.com/MacroView_Jake Follow Jack Farley on Twitter https://x.com/JackFarley96 Follow Monetary Matters on: Apple Podcast https://rb.gy/s5qfyh Spotify https://rb.gy/x56dx5YouTube https://rb.gy/dpwxez

Marc Rubinstein, former hedge fund manager and author of Net Interest joins Monetary Matters to discuss how the financial sector is preparing itself for the risks of a recession and how they are managing tariff uncertainty during this earnings season. Rubinstein touches on the different subsectors of the financial sector, like banks, non-banks, asset managers and payments companies, as well as how financials in different geographies may benefit from the reshuffling of global trade. Read Marc’s Net Interest Substack on The Great Payments Processor Reshuffle of 2025: https://www.netinterest.co/p/partner-swap Follow Marc Rubinstein on Twitter https://x.com/MarcRuby Follow Jack Farley on Twitter https://x.com/JackFarley96 Follow Monetary Matters on: Apple Podcast https://rb.gy/s5qfyh Spotify https://rb.gy/x56dx5 YouTube https://rb.gy/dpwxez

Matt Jozoff, co-CEO, Portfolio Manager, and Head of Macro Research at Trevally Capital joins Other People’s Money, to discuss how trends like the growth in the Ginnie Mae market, low credit borrowers and non-bank originators, and other factors are affecting mortgage prepayments and creating opportunities in the mortgage market for firms like Trevally Capital. He also discusses how Trevally Capital is looking to extract alpha from these opportunities and build a world-class institutional asset manager with the backing of partners like The Raptor Group and Seaport Global Securities. Learn more about Trevally Capital: https://www.trevallycapital.com/ Follow Max on X: https://x.com/maxwiethe Follow Other People’s Money on: Apple Podcast https://bit.ly/4e7QJ1M  Spotify https://bit.ly/3Yhaazi  YouTube https://bit.ly/3C63VXR X https://x.com/opmpod Timestamps 00:00 Intro 01:33 Post-Tariff Fixed Income Market Update 06:49 Recent Mortgage Market Developments 10:45 Ginnie Mae Mortgages 12:04 Not Calling For Another Mortgage Crisis 13:42 Nobody Can Afford Refinancing 17:24 Trump Admin and Fannie & Freddie 21:08 Factors Affecting Mortgage Prepayments 28:27 Day one Institutional Quality 34:53 Prepayments Part II 39:04 Importance of Seed Investors like Raptor & Seaport Global 42:07 Hedge Fund Seed Investing is Venture Capital 43:55 Peers & Competitors in the Mortgage Market 49:36 Physics & Cincinnati Connection

Libby Cantrill, Managing Director and Head of Public Policy at PIMCO, joins Monetary Matters to explain her outlook on U.S. trade and tax policy. Cantrill argues that while Trump administration has flexibility in tariff negotiations and that the China tariffs are likely headed much lower (a prediction that already looks like it will come true), tariffs are not going away anytime soon and she views the 10% tariffs on the world as a floor, with reciprocal tariffs on top of that floor especially on China being elevated. Cantrill also shares her views on sectoral tariffs, the rumored “Mar-a-Lago Accord” (she doesn’t think it has traction), and tax cuts. Recorded the afternoon of April 22, 2025. Follow Libby Cantrill on LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/libby-cantrill-cfa-17162513b/ Most recent piece, “Overall U.S. Tariff Level Still High Despite Exemptions”: https://www.pimco.com/us/en/insights/overall-us-tariff-level-still-high-despite-exemptions Cantrill’s profile on PIMCO: https://www.pimco.com/us/en/experts/libby-cantrill Follow Monetary Matters on: Apple Podcast https://rb.gy/s5qfyh Spotify https://rb.gy/x56dx5 YouTube https://rb.gy/dpwxez

To view the prospectus for the VanEck Merk Gold ETF (OUNZ), please visit: https://www.vaneck.com/OUNZProspectus Learn more: https://www.vaneck.com/OUNZJack/overview/ What happens to Private Credit in a slowdown? Are fears of tariffs overblown? Danny Moses of “The Big Short” renown joins Monetary Matters to share his views on these important issues and more. Recorded April 17 2025. Follow Danny Moses on Twitter https://x.com/dmoses34 Follow Jack Farley on Twitter https://x.com/JackFarley96 Danny Moses’ podcast, On The Tape: https://open.spotify.com/show/1Bawg52xr2HpGeN36npyua Follow Monetary Matters on: Apple Podcast https://rb.gy/s5qfyh Spotify https://rb.gy/x56dx5 YouTube https://rb.gy/dpwxez

Freya Beamish, Chief Economist at TS Lombard, joins Jack to argue why American tariff policy is accelerating a transition to a multi-polar international monetary order. She estimates that U.S. and China will reach a deal lowering tariffs to ~30% levels and shares her views on bonds and gold. Recorded on April 14, 2025. Follow Freya Beamish on Twitter https://x.com/freyabeamish Follow Jack Farley on Twitter https://x.com/JackFarley96 Follow Monetary Matters on: Apple Podcast https://rb.gy/s5qfyh Spotify https://rb.gy/x56dx5 YouTube https://rb.gy/dpwxez

Sign up for MacroCapture by MI2 Partners today with coupon codes MM10 (for annual) and MM10Q (for quarterly) to save 10% at: https://mi2partners.com/macrocapture-landing-page/ Julian Brigden Co-Founder of MI2 Partners joins Monetary Matters to discuss why the dramatic shift in US trade policy is making non-US investors dump US assets and bring home the profits from a historic bull run in US assets. He also explains why this repatriation of profits coupled with an eventual slowdown in the flow of dollars driven by tariff policy itself spells a weaker dollar and trouble for US financial markets, even if it does result in American reindustrialization. Recorded April 15, 2025. Follow Julian Brigden on Twitter https://x.com/JulianMI2 Follow Jack Farley on Twitter https://x.com/JackFarley96 Follow Monetary Matters on: Apple Podcast https://rb.gy/s5qfyh Spotify https://rb.gy/x56dx5 YouTube https://rb.gy/dpwxez Timestamps: 00:00 Intro 01:53 The Whole World is Overweight the US 09:55 Tariffs Slow the Dollar Flow 17:54 Selling US Assets is Prudent for Foreign Investors 26:42 Who Wins in the US Domestic Economy? 29:56 MacroCapture 34:58 Tariffs Have Been a Carpet-bomb Approach 44:06 Tariffs = Stagflation 49:43 Tariff Effects on China and Europe 54:04 Are Risks Greater in the US? 01:00:13 Will Foreign Markets Outperform on US Weakness or Their Strength? 01:04:32 Bond Market Outlook 01:10:24 Gold Outlook 01:12:50 Reading the Tape to Detect Market Participants 01:18:16 Where is the Trump Put? 01:22:21 America’s Liz Truss Moment 01:25:59 Credit Trades and HYG

Måns Levin, CEO and co-founder of Ridge Capital, joins Other People’s Money, to discuss why they believe the Nordic high yield credit market provides unique opportunities for double-digit returns and insolation from tariff and trade war risks. Levin discusses the exceptional start Ridge Capital has had, both in terms of performance and asset raising, the specific features and composition of the Nordic high yield market that they find most attractive, and the flexibility in strategies required to take full advantage of the opportunities they see. Follow Ridge Capital on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/ridgecap/ Follow Max on X: https://x.com/maxwiethe Follow Other People’s Money on: Apple Podcast https://bit.ly/4e7QJ1M Spotify https://bit.ly/3Yhaazi YouTube https://bit.ly/3C63VXR X https://x.com/opmpod #credit #creditmarket #fixedincome #bonds #nordic #sweden #norway #denmark #finland #stocks #economics #economy #stockmarket #investing #hedgefunds #trading #wallstreet #ridgecapital #finance

To view the prospectus for the VanEck Merk Gold ETF (OUNZ), please visit: vaneck.com/OUNZProspectus Learn more: vaneck.com/OUNZJack Lyn Alden of Lyn Alden Investment Strategy explains the connection between the capital and financial imbalances the U.S. has with the rest of the world and its trade imbalances which are under so much scrutiny by the current U.S. administration. Alden argues that turbulence in markets, particularly U.S. assets, could continue, and warns listeners not to be exposed beyond their risk limits at a juncture that could be a historic time for markets and the global economy. Recorded April 10, 2025. Follow Lyn Alden on Twitter https://x.com/LynAldenContact Follow Jack Farley on Twitter https://x.com/JackFarley96 Lyn Alden’s book, “Broken Money”: https://www.amazon.com/Broken-Money-Financial-System-Failing/dp/B0CG8985FR Follow Monetary Matters on: Apple Podcast https://rb.gy/s5qfyh Spotify https://rb.gy/x56dx5 YouTube https://rb.gy/dpwxez ____ The material must be preceded or accompanied by a prospectus. Before investing you should carefully consider the VanEck Merk Gold ETF’s (“OUNZ” or the “Trust”) investment objectives, risks, charges and expenses. An investment in the VanEck Merk Gold ETF (“OUNZ” or the “Trust”) is subject to significant risk and may not be suitable for all investors. OUNZ is not an investment company registered under the Investment Company Act of 1940 (the “1940 Act”) and therefore is not subject to the same protections as mutual funds or ETFs registered under the 1940 Act. The request for redemption of shares for gold is subject to a number of risks including but not limited to the potential for the price of gold to decline during the time between the submission of the request and delivery. Delivery may take a considerable amount of time depending on your location. The Sponsor for the Trust is Merk Investments, LLC. The Marketing Agent for the Trust is Van Eck Securities Corporation. © Merk Investments LLC © Van Eck Associates Corporation

Wayne Himelsein, CIO and founder of Logic Capital Advisors, joins Other People’s Money, to discuss how his hedge fund is built to profit when volatility spikes in moments just like this. Everybody wants to carry crash protection but if implemented improperly the cost of carrying hedges can bleed you dry. Finding innovative ways to solve this problem is what drives Himelsein and Logica forward and in this discussion he discusses their approach to maintaining at the money long volatility exposure without relying on spread trades to fund tail hedges. This episode is brought to you by Fintool, a financial copilot tailored for institutional investors. Fintool leverages Large Language Models (LLMs) to discover financial insights beyond the reach of timely human analysis. From summarizing extensive annual reports to computing numbers and unearthing new insights by comparing years of filings, Fintool equips institutional investors like Janus Henderson, First Manhattan and companies like PWC. Learn more about how you can add AI to your investment process: https://fintool.com/?utm_source=the_opm Follow Wayne on X: https://x.com/WayneHimelsein Follow Max on X: https://x.com/maxwiethe Follow Other People’s Money on: Apple Podcast https://bit.ly/4e7QJ1M Spotify https://bit.ly/3Yhaazi YouTube https://bit.ly/3C63VXR X https://x.com/opmpod

Charles Gasparino, Fox Business Senior Correspondent, give color into the protectionist and moderate factions in the White House, and explains why he thinks that, President Trump is likely to reach a deal with major trading partners. Recorded April 8, 2025. Follow Charles Gasparino on Twitter https://x.com/CGasparino Follow Jack Farley on Twitter https://x.com/JackFarley96 Follow Monetary Matters on: Apple Podcast https://rb.gy/s5qfyh Spotify https://rb.gy/x56dx5 YouTube https://rb.gy/dpwxez