Mormon Stories Podcast

In this episode, we explore 10 common pitfalls people face during religious deconstruction. From navigating relationships and parenting outside of organized religion to the challenges of psychedelics, intellectualism, and identity loss—this is a raw, honest conversation about life after faith. Whether you're just beginning your journey or deep in it, this discussion offers insight, validation, and guidance.Key topics covered:Why opening your marriage right after leaving religion may backfireHow to provide structure for your kids without religionThe psychedelic trap & chasing spiritual highsThe “missionary phase” of ex-belief systemsFinding meaning beyond religion, without clinging to new dogmasThe lifelong process of deconstructionAnd much more, including Gen Z dating, chakras, free will, and dreamsDon’t miss her reflections on what she’s learned, what to avoid, and how to move forward with integrity and openness.Show NotesYouTube00:00:00 Introduction00:04:44 These are things she's learned to be aware of as you are in the mess of religious deconstruction; it’s not a same thing00:08:04 The first thing you should avoid: Opening your marriage soon after leaving your faith00:16:32 Second: Providing order and structure for kids00:22:37 Do kids need religion for structure and order?00:34:15 Third: Psychedelic chasing00:39:45 Four: Clinging to new beliefs00:45:32 Reality is more magical than how we view reality00:50:28 Five: Avoid the Missionary Phase. Sam Harris says: “No one is more ardent in their atheism than exMormons”00:57:01 Six: Not recognizing the good in religion 01:04:57 Seven: Underestimating the hard work it is to replace religion01:12:32 Eight: Underestimating that deconstruction is a lifelong process01:18:11 Do we have free will? 01:28:32 Nine: Avoid finding new prophets01:35:45 Ten: Overemphasis on intellectualism01:42:53 Final thoughtsMormon Stories Thanks Our Generous Donors!Help us continue to deliver quality content by becoming a donor today:One-time or recurring donation through DonorboxSupport us on PatreonPayPalVenmoOur Platforms:YouTubePatreonSpotifyApple PodcastsContact us:MormonStories@gmail.comPO Box 171085, Salt Lake City, UT 84117Social Media:Insta: @mormstoriesTikTok: @mormonstoriespodcastJoin the Discord

After nearly two centuries of strict modesty standards, the Mormon Church has made a historic change—women’s garments now allow for exposed shoulders. In this in-depth panel, Mormon women unpack the significance of this shift. From the garments' Masonic roots and historical designs to the ways they’ve shaped modesty culture, sexuality, and control over women's bodies, this conversation dives deep. The panel also explores the social media response, health concerns, and the ongoing discomfort many women still face. With personal stories, historical context, and commentary on the new designs, this is a must-watch discussion on a topic rarely spoken about so openly.Show NotesYouTube00:00:00 Introductions00:18:15 Rules around garments00:26:32 Modesty culture shaped by garments00:34:10 Church doctrine around garments00:39:50 Modesty policing among members - “garment checking”01:06:00 The effect of garments on a couple’s sex life01:25:00 Photos of the new garment designs01:32:00 How would they have received this info as an active believer?01:51:00 Nancy’s final comments02:02:35 @AndreaFausett video02:09:28 @VikaFroclieh video02:18:00 Video of woman walking into church in new garments02:25:25 Discussion on if tight fitting clothing is okay02:27:00 “Gen Z is different”02:28:10 Third @AndreaFausett video02:332:26 Sharing superchat comments02:34:54 @NicoleEversten video02:36:25 Second @VikaFroclieh video02:42:30 @Haleyrawle video02:51:20 @Exponentii_blog video (Abby’s video)02:55:32 Final thoughtsMormon Stories Thanks Our Generous Donors!Help us continue to deliver quality content by becoming a donor today:One-time or recurring donation through DonorboxSupport us on PatreonPayPalVenmoOur Platforms:YouTubePatreonSpotifyApple PodcastsContact us:MormonStories@gmail.comPO Box 171085, Salt Lake City, UT 84117Social Media:Insta: @mormstoriesTikTok: @mormonstoriespodcastJoin the Discord

In Part 2 of our story, Kyle opens up about his life growing up in the Two by Twos faith — from a childhood shaped by pressure to "uphold the family name," to navigating chronic illness and suppressing his passions for music and basketball in order to prioritize church. We talk about the expectations around professing young, the control over dating, marriage, and even parenting — including the harmful encouragement of corporal punishment.As cracks began to form during the COVID-19 pandemic, Kyle and Kari found themselves questioning everything they believed. From hidden doubts, religious trauma, and Kari’s journey of discovering her bisexuality, to the couple’s darkest moments and eventual transformation, this episode dives deep into how they began rebuilding their lives outside the 2x2 world.We also discuss the emerging abuse allegations within the Two by Twos church, the beginnings of their Ex-Two by Two support group, and the broader fight for transparency and accountability in a faith that claims to have no organization at all. This is a raw, emotional, and revealing chapter of their deconstruction journey.Show NotesYouTube00:00:00 Introduction00:04:02 Kyle’s background & upbringing as a 2x200:16:17 What happens when a child “professes”?00:29:06 Feeling immense pressure to stick to the gospel00:34:21 His views on dating at the time00:44:40 2x2 Wedding00:48:23 Were told by multiple people the needed to “break their kids” - corporal punishment very big among 2x200:56:40 How did 2x2 members look at covid/the vaccine/masks?01:12:49 Kari told Kyle she was atheist 01:26:24 Kyle had the feeling that he just ran off a cliff01:37:21 Kari realized, if it feels like the only way out is death, it is not a healthy religion - realized he was giving too much to something that was not giving back01:46:09 Kari got her ears pierced for the first time - was a very liberating experience 01:47:15 “The Ex 2x2 Support Group”01:53:38 Highly respected overseer found dead in a hotel room 02:15:25 “If there is no organization, there is no organization to sue”02:29:55 ‘How do you shut down an organization that doesn't exist?”02:35:02 How much money does the 2x2 church have? How can it be tracked?02:42:00 How do they try to gather with ex-members?02:53:15 ConclusionMormon Stories Thanks Our Generous Donors!Help us continue to deliver quality content by becoming a donor today:One-time or recurring donation through DonorboxSupport us on PatreonPayPalVenmoOur Platforms:YouTubePatreonSpotifyApple PodcastsContact us:MormonStories@gmail.comPO Box 171085, Salt Lake City, UT 84117Social Media:Insta: @mormstoriesTikTok: @mormonstoriespodcastJoin the Discord

Kari & Kyle Hanks share their journey of leaving the secretive 2x2 church, a religious group with no official name, written doctrine, or corporate structure. They discuss their upbringings, struggles with faith, the exclusivity of the religion, and the trauma they endured. From discovering the church’s hidden history to creating a support group for ex-members, they expose abuse scandals, strict doctrines on women, and emotional suppression within the group. Their deconstruction was influenced by the Mormon Stories Podcast, COVID-19, and personal revelations about belief, identity, and autonomy. Now, they advocate for informed consent and support those leaving high-control religions.Show NotesYouTube00:00:00 Introduction00:02:40 Kari & Kyle introduce themselves and the Two by Twos group00:14:04 They do not have a written doctrine, it is all word of mouth00:21:59 The founding of Two by Two - founded by William Irving00:28:28 It wasn’t until 1905 that the group started preaching exclusivity00:37:52 Irving is kicked out of the church, although some still stay loyal to him. Another splinter group.00:49:50 Three meetings a week01:00:46 Background of their theology/doctrine01:09:02 Discussion of Heaven & Hell01:17:04 Kari’s background in the church01:23:17 Growing up as a 2x2 girl01:30:30 How does the group refer to themselves?01:38:43 Never having the language to describe her feelings or sexuality01:42:09 Higher education was discouraged for many, especially women01:54:17 Emotional manipulation in high demand religions02:24:47 2x2s very politically conservative, but are not typically involved politically02:27:08 When did she start to think she was in a cult?Mormon Stories Thanks Our Generous Donors!Help us continue to deliver quality content by becoming a donor today:One-time or recurring donation through DonorboxSupport us on PatreonPayPalVenmoOur Platforms:YouTubePatreonSpotifyApple PodcastsContact us:MormonStories@gmail.comPO Box 171085, Salt Lake City, UT 84117Social Media:Insta: @mormstoriesTikTok: @mormonstoriespodcastJoin the Discord

After five years of reflection, Kate opens up about her journey growing up in a strict Mormon household, serving a mission in Argentina, and working for the LDS Church. She shares pivotal moments of doubt, her experiences in church administration, and the troubling realities she uncovered in the Confidential Records department. From questioning church discipline policies to witnessing firsthand how the institution handles abuse cases, Kate's story reveals the struggles and insights that ultimately led her to leave the church. Join us as she discusses faith, disillusionment, and life after Mormonism.Show NotesYouTube00:00:00 Beginning00:03:40 Kate Lyn’s Mormon story begins 00:10:20 Confessing "sins" to her bishop00:16:44 Decides to serve a mission00:30:37 Hardest parts of mission00:39:58 “Golden investigator” on mission was con man00:47:33 Started working for the church00:49:00 Worked with high level leaders01:14:25 People trying to steal from the church01:18:53 Confidential Records department01:22:46 Reading about bad things in the discipline documents 02:13:12 Becoming PIMO (physically in mentally out"02:15:56 Woman excommunicated for sleeping with her bishop at 14 years old02:24:37 “I don't think I would have left the church, if I didn’t work for the church”02:39:40 On Mormons who look down on peopleMormon Stories Thanks Our Generous Donors!Help us continue to deliver quality content by becoming a donor today:One-time or recurring donation through DonorboxSupport us on PatreonPayPalVenmoOur Platforms:YouTubePatreonSpotifyApple PodcastsContact us:MormonStories@gmail.comPO Box 171085, Salt Lake City, UT 84117Social Media:Insta: @mormstoriesTikTok: @mormonstoriespodcastJoin the Discord

On March 12, 2025, Church educator and BYU professor Jared Halverson released an Instagram short where he stated: “One of the statistics that has worried me the most of late, comes from a survey that was done in 2023 and it’s suggesting that for the first time that I can think of, more women are leaving religion than men are.” Is this true? Why are more women leaving Mormonism than men are? Join us today as we gather with Katie Rich (author of Fifty Years of Exponent II), Amy McPhie Allebest (of the Breaking Down Patriarchy YouTube channel), and Abby Maxwell Hansen (who was threatened with excommunication for her profile on Ordain Women in 2013 and an Exponent II blogger since 2019), as well as writer and columnist Jana Riess to discuss this growing phenomenon.Jared Halverson is an associate professor of Ancient Scriptures and served for over 20 years in the Church Education System. Halverson earned his BA in History and MA in Religious Education. He has been a featured speaker in devotionals as well as in academic settings. He is the host of the YouTube channel and podcast titled “Unshaken.”You can view Jared Halverson’s original video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TevsIrw1nqsShow Notes: https://www.mormonstories.org/why-are-women-leaving-the-mormon-church/

Today we are re-introducing Sandra Tanner to a new generation of Mormons, exMormons, and never-Mormons. Both Sandra and her husband Jerald have strong Mormon backgrounds. When he was only eighteen, Jerald began to have doubts about his faith. When they began dating, Sandra Tanner also began to doubt. Throughout the 60s, 70s and 80s Jerald and Sandra Tanner were among the first to begin publishing on the problems with Mormon history and its truth claims. They opened a bookstore called the Utah Lighthouse Ministry and began publishing their research. Today we are going to talk about their discoveries on topics such as changes to the Book of Mormon, the problems with the Book of Abraham translation, the Kinderhook plates, how the Church covered up problematic parts of its history, and how they impacted hundreds of people in and out of the Mormon church. You won’t want to miss this episode!Show NotesYouTube00:04:00 Topics we are going to cover today00:05:24 Changes to the text of the Book of Mormon00:25:40 The usage of the seer stone and an “exact” translation00:32:00 The Book of Mormon as a revelation rather than a translation 00:33:45 Problems with the Book of Abraham translation00:49:12 The Church came up with the Catalyst Theory00:54:00 The Kinderhook Plates issues01:14:10 Other “Cover-ups” that the church has done01:28:00 Nephi vs. Moroni 01:31:55 Changes to D&C01:38:10 Discussion of Michelle Stone’s claims & Sandra’s response01:54:55 “We felt the obligation to set the record straight”01:59:00 How does Sandra respond to critics that say she should continue to deconstruct Christianity02:25:20 ConclusionMormon Stories Thanks Our Generous Donors!Help us continue to deliver quality content by becoming a donor today:One-time or recurring donation through DonorboxSupport us on PatreonPayPalVenmoOur Platforms:YouTubePatreonSpotifyApple PodcastsContact us:MormonStories@gmail.comPO Box 171085, Salt Lake City, UT 84117Social Media:Insta: @mormstoriesTikTok: @mormonstoriespodcastJoin the Discord

After being inspired by the Mormon Stories Paul brothers episode, Dave courageously shares his powerful journey through faith, family struggles, and self-discovery. From his upbringing in a traditional Mormon household to navigating complex questions about church history, LGBTQ+ issues, and personal loss, Dave's story is one of resilience and hope. He reflects on his brother's tragic passing, his evolving beliefs, and why he ultimately chooses to stay active in the church today. Tune in for a heartfelt conversation about faith, doubt, and finding meaning through it all.Show NotesYouTube00:03:12 Dave’s intention for coming on Mormon Stories00:08:03 Dave’s mormon story begins - explaining family background00:13:41 Story of backpacking with his brother and having an accident00:24:46 Dave’s mission to Warsaw, Poland00:34:50 Life after his mission - dating and marriage01:01:05 Dave’s experience with a Roman Catholic woman that inspired him - introduced him to interracial marriage01:13:30 Dave thought “If I remain silent now, I am a hypocrite to my own testimony” (regarding his friend leaving the church)01:21:04 Why do we call it going down the rabbit hole when it is actually coming out into the light?01:45:00 “Does God help amputees?” argument02:00:50 “There has to be recognition that what we were taught was not the truth”02:17:30 Why John Dehlin does Mormon Stories02:46:17 Elder Holland “greatest missionary of all time” experience02:59:55 Dave discusses the Book of Mormon03:36:44 Dave’s younger brother, Dan, passed away in 202303:44:19 What are the main reasons that he chooses to stay active in 2025?04:01:26 What is his response to the fact that the church does a lot of harm to people as well? How does he personally work through this04:11:30 Dave feels that there are real advancements being made in the church currently04:20:24 ConclusionMormon Stories Thanks Our Generous Donors!Help us continue to deliver quality content by becoming a donor today:One-time or recurring donation through DonorboxSupport us on PatreonPayPalVenmoOur Platforms:YouTubePatreonSpotifyApple PodcastsContact us:MormonStories@gmail.comPO Box 171085, Salt Lake City, UT 84117Social Media:Insta: @mormstoriesTikTok: @mormonstoriespodcastJoin the Discord

In this episode, we’re joined by historian and mapmaker John Hamer as he responds to Michelle Stone’s recent claims that Joseph Smith did not practice polygamy. Drawing from historical records, primary sources, and his extensive research, John offers context and analysis on one of the most debated topics in Latter-day Saint history. Join us for an insightful conversation unpacking the complexities of Joseph Smith’s involvement in early Mormon polygamy.John Hamer is an American-Canadian historian who has focused primarily on Mormon history and has published a number of books on the topic, including Scattering of the Saints: Schism Within Mormonism and House of the Lord: The Story of the Kirtland Temple. John Hamer was raised in the Mormon Church, left the religion and joined the Community of Christ Church in 2010 and now serves as a pastor in their Toronto Congregation.Show NotesYouTube00:00:50 Michelle Stone00:01:50 John Hamer has been on MSP eleven times at least00:03:35 Background for John Hamer00:11:30 Why would the Community of Christ have an interest in this topic? 00:22:07 A Golden Age of Disinformation 00:30:20 Personal Investment in Disinformation00:31:45 Why do people prefer disinformation? 00:35:35 False Equation as the Basis00:37:35 Rejection of Expertise00:43:47 Holding Beliefs in Contradiction to Evidence00:45:53 Religious Propositions - such as flat earthers00:51:41 Solomon Spaulding Theory for the Book of Mormon01:01:35 Historians regardless of affiliation conclude that Joseph Smith practiced polygamy01:04:40 Testimonies of Every Type of Witness01:09:17 Why Credit This Conspiracy Theory?01:15:30 “Lying for the Lord” Joseph didn’t think he was lying01:24:45 Lying for the Lord about Polygamy timeline01:32:10 Joseph Smith III and the story of the wedge01:37:19 Michelle Stone and the broad rejection of expertise01:42:00 Apologetic Lack of Methodology 01:48:?? Uphold Knowledge Not Truth Claims01:52:20 Questions for John Hamer on the topic of polygamy02:07:46 The text of D&C 132, it has the context of the time02:11:40 Temple Lot Case02:19:30 John Hamer’s final words for the showMormon Stories Thanks Our Generous Donors!Help us continue to deliver quality content by becoming a donor today:One-time or recurring donation through DonorboxSupport us on PatreonPayPalVenmoOur Platforms:YouTubePatreonSpotifyApple PodcastsContact us:MormonStories@gmail.comPO Box 171085, Salt Lake City, UT 84117Social Media:Insta: @mormstoriesTikTok: @mormonstoriespodcastJoin the Discord

New research by PhD student Colby Townsend reveals striking connections between The Book of Mormon and Adam Clarke’s Bible Commentary, a widely used biblical resource in Joseph Smith’s time. In this episode, we explore how Smith engaged with Clarke’s insights, made textual modifications, and reframed biblical passages to fit his theological vision. Was Smith restoring lost scripture, or was he influenced by contemporary scholarship?Show NotesYouTube00:11:35 Summary of Joseph Smith using the Adam Clarke Commentary00:17:06 During this time, this is NOT considered plagiarism00:19:55 The new article by Colby Townsend00:23:24 Clip of Hayley talking about Joseph Smith using the Bible Commentary00:29:45 What were we taught about how the Book of Mormon was produced?00:30:17 Quote from David Whitmer on the translation through the seer stone00:35:00 The Expansion Theory00:40:26 Quote from Emma on the Book of Mormon translation00:42:33 Quote from Martin Harris on it being a direct translation00:44:00 There is no account from Oliver Cowdery on the translation process; Oliver was also willing to lie00:44:51 Clip of Brad Wilcox on how the Book of Mormon was translation00:48:08 Background of Colby Townsend 00:50:08 Quotes from the article00:57:55 Joseph used other Bible Commentaries01:02:00 Conclusion from Colby Townsend’s article01:07:40 Clip of the the Bible not having plain and precious things being removed01:09:25 Clip - The Book of Mormon is to bring back the things lost from the Bible01:11:20 2 Nephi 11:2 Nephi talks about the importance of Isaiah01:22:43 Quote from the Colby’s article about how Joseph was well versed in the Bible01:24:55 Dan Vogel’s theory about the presence of Isaiah in the Book of Mormon01:26:14 Colby Townsend discussing Joseph and Methodism01:29:25 Adam Clarke’s Biblical Commentary01:33:35 Joseph’s access to Clarke01:40:00 Comparing The Book of Mormon to the Adam Clarke Commentary01:49:35 Joseph copying both the KJV and then Adam Clarke’s commentary01:58:38 Next example in Isaiah 50:2 “their fish is dried up”02:12:20 The example of Isaiah 2: 12-16 “cedars and oaks” and “high mountains and lofty hills”02:18:45 Isaiah 9:3 “thou hast increased their joy”02:24:20 Gerardo found his own examples02:32:24 Examples in Isaiah 14:3 “in that day”02:38:59 Isaiah 49:1 “O ye distant lands”02:48:10 Example Isaiah 29:11 “read it, for it is sealed up”02:56:50 If this is the most correct book why was so much of it changed?Mormon Stories Thanks Our Generous Donors!Help us continue to deliver quality content by becoming a donor today:One-time or recurring donation through DonorboxSupport us on PatreonPayPalVenmoOur Platforms:YouTubePatreonSpotifyApple PodcastsContact us:MormonStories@gmail.comPO Box 171085, Salt Lake City, UT 84117Social Media:Insta: @mormstoriesTikTok: @mormonstoriespodcastJoin the Discord

In this heartfelt episode, Kevin and Jennifer share their inspiring journey through their Mormon upbringing, missions, and eventual faith transition. They discuss navigating doubts, supporting their gay and transgender children, and redefining what love and family mean. From facing church pressures to embracing authenticity, their story highlights resilience, acceptance, and the power of unconditional love. Don't miss this moving conversation about finding peace and purpose beyond organized religion.Show NotesYouTube00:05:25 Kevin’s story begins00:14:20 Kevin met with general authority Paul H. Dunn to get approved for his mission00:27:58 Jennifer’s Story begins00:36:11 They met again with Paull Dunn about getting married in the temple00:48:38 Defining their own gender roles in their marriage01:01:18 Concerns with paying tithing01:09:00 Teenage son struggling with p*rn and coming out as gay01:17:48 Their gay son decided to serve a mission; he was told his mission will “cure him of his gayness”01:30:00 Mission president refused to let him go home, and had possession of his passport01:38:00 Kevin told his son “never try to make the church work for you - it never will”01:51:55 Their gay son says that if he was not able to leave the mission he may have committed suicide02:08:50 Their daughter tells them she is done with the church; she experienced love bombing02:12:50 Kevin asks his mom, “If the church wasn't true would you want to know” - she says no02:16:50 “If there is a place in the church for my gay son, we will reconsider”02:30:40 Discussing transgender issues in the church02:40:48 Why do a lot of ex-Mormons turn to atheism after leaving the church?02:28:20 Has the way that they see “love” and “family” changed over the years? What do they mean for them now?02:56:23 Final thoughtsMormon Stories Thanks Our Generous Donors!Help us continue to deliver quality content by becoming a donor today:One-time or recurring donation through DonorboxSupport us on PatreonPayPalVenmoOur Platforms:YouTubePatreonSpotifyApple PodcastsContact us:MormonStories@gmail.comPO Box 171085, Salt Lake City, UT 84117Social Media:Insta: @mormstoriesTikTok: @mormonstoriespodcastJoin the Discord

Lori Vallow Daybell was interviewed on NBC/Dateline Exclusive. Keith Morrison sat down with convicted murderer and Mormon mom, Lori Vallow, to talk about her case. Her two children, Tylee and J.J. were last seen in September of 2019 and she and her new husband Chad Daybell were arrested and charged for their murder. During the Dateline interview, Lori said that she and Chad Daybell were going to be exonerated because of Jesus. “I have seen things in the future that Jesus showed me when I was in heaven.” She went on to say that “Jesus is a funny guy and a wonderful person that loves everybody and especially loves her.” Lori has long been desirous to appear on Dateline and finally got her wish. She is also charged with conspiracy in the attempted murder of her niece’s ex-husband in another case.Show NotesYouTube00:00:30 Lauren Mathias, Megan Conner, Gerardo and John00:10:00 She went in surprised, she’d heard most of it, but was surprised at Lori’s anger00:17:50 Gerardo feels the interview would have been different with someone with a cult background00:19:25 Did the interview show us the real Lori Vallow?00:29:50 Lori is trying to lay groundwork for blaming Tylee for JJ’s death00:34:00 Discussing the evidence that Tylee was killed weeks before JJ00:47:40 Lori claiming that she met Jesus00:51:25 Polling the audience about weather Lori Vallow believes this is true01:09:30 Where do Chad’s beliefs begin and end?01:12:05 Lori bringing in the spare tire and the car chair01:25:00 We didn’t see much of the 90 minute interview between Lori and Keith01:29:55 What Keith did that Lauren did not like01:37:00 Was JJ asleep or was he already dead?01:39:30 How Mormons view death and how Lori did not have a lot of grief or sadness in this01:41:50 Lori saying that Tammy loves her and she loves Tammy01:55:20 It was clearly disturbing to see Alex and Chad unloading a pickup truck02:05:55 Alex’s death - was it natural causes or a murder?02:18:00 Harmful places in Visions of Glory 02:19:55 Mormon beliefs that play into this crime 02:31:00 Other individuals who killed their children because they thought their children were possessed02:39:00 Lauren being a members of the church02:49:45 Lori saying that she’s right and “I told you so”03:18:30 Keith pointed out that Lori was giving parenting adviceMormon Stories Thanks Our Generous Donors!Help us continue to deliver quality content by becoming a donor today:One-time or recurring donation through DonorboxSupport us on PatreonPayPalVenmoOur Platforms:YouTubePatreonSpotifyApple PodcastsContact us:MormonStories@gmail.comPO Box 171085, Salt Lake City, UT 84117Social Media:Insta: @mormstoriesTikTok: @mormonstoriespodcastJoin the Discord

Dana shares her personal journey of growing up in the Mormon church, navigating mental health challenges, and eventually deconstructing her faith. From her Mormon upbringing and mission experience to questioning societal and religious expectations, Dana's story explores themes of self-discovery, the impact of religion on her life, and the search for meaning beyond traditional beliefs. After leaving the church, Dana delves into topics like mental health, fertility, relationships, and motherhood, offering a candid perspective on her path toward healing and personal growth. This channel is a space for open discussion on faith, identity, and life after Mormonism.Show NotesYouTube00:05:00 Dana’s Mormon Story begins00:17:00 What examples did she see of women in the church?00:21:34 It was out of the ordinary to see women with careers00:38:23 She was reported to the Bishop and her parents that she had experimented with cutting01:06:30 Dana’s mission experience service in Atlanta, Georgia01:12:22 She didn't love the temple experience - was “underwhelming”01:24:24 David Archuleta was at the MTC during the same time01:32:51 Dana knew very soon that she wanted to leave the mission early and she had to fight to go home01:38:27 Dana Decided to go to BYU01:56:25 Felt pressure to be married by the time she finished BYU02:02:17 Dana to tell her parents that they could not be married in the temple and her mother told her “He’s taken everything from you”02:18:07 Mormon therapist asked her to consider if she would be open to dating a non-Mormon02:29:50 Dana lists the ways the church failed her - the church makes promises it can’t keep02:41:20 Began to research severe PMS and PMDD, and learned that she suffered from it02:47:02 Dana decided to have a baby by herself - very radical in Mormonism03:08:00 Dana feels that she was a better foster parent as an ex-Mormon03:14:40 Deconstructing the idea of “motherhood” in Mormonism03:27:18 Dana focusing on her PhDMormon Stories Thanks Our Generous Donors!Help us continue to deliver quality content by becoming a donor today:One-time or recurring donation through DonorboxSupport us on PatreonPayPalVenmoOur Platforms:YouTubePatreonSpotifyApple PodcastsContact us:MormonStories@gmail.comPO Box 171085, Salt Lake City, UT 84117Social Media:Insta: @mormstoriesTikTok: @mormonstoriespodcastJoin the Discord

When vlogger Ruby Franke was arrested for child abuse in August 2023, it shocked millions who had followed her family’s seemingly perfect life on YouTube. But behind the wholesome image was a much darker reality. With counselor Jodi Hildebrandt’s influence, the Franke family spiraled into a nightmare. Now, in Devil in the Family: The Fall of Ruby Franke, the Frankes’ eldest children, Shari and Chad, and Ruby’s husband, Kevin, speak out for the first time. In this episode of Mormon Stories, we react to this gripping series, unpacking the shocking revelations and what they say about family, control, and the dangers of social media.Show NotesYouTube00:02:45 Curious Case of Judi Hildebrant 00:22:45 “Mormon Mommy Bloggers”00:30:40 Kevin is also a victim of an abuser00:48:50 Ruby thinks a happy family is an obedient family 01:10:57 Ruby’s channel was “Advancing the image of the church”01:26:00 Pressure in Mormonism to find a partner that is acceptable by church standards01:56:49 The Franke kids begin to shut down to the camera02:02:26 Ruby tells Chad: “Fake being happy right now”02:14:17 Who is the “Devil in the Family” representing?02:30:20 “The beanbag incident” with Chad’s bed being taken away02:40:42 Shari saying Chad got “beaten” and had to help him clean up blood off the walls 03:01:21 Kevin’s initial reaction to ConneXions - “This is a cult”03:23:20 Lauren’s reaction to Jodi’s house: “They had Costco inside this house”03:28:00 The LDS church could be shutting this dogma down but they don't04:04:00 When Jodi is possessed its a feature, when the kids are possessed its a bug04:31:10 Jodi Gave Ruby permission to be this way04:49:40 Shari calls the police for the first time to do a wellness check on the kids04:58:54 The younger daughter found in the closet - wasn't even able to talk05:17:50 “Takes an exceptional lack of empathy” for a mother to do this05:25:11 Assessment of how Kevin let this happen05:41:30 Sometimes families like these can be more susceptible to manipulation 06:07:00 Become cult informed! Become born again to your own intrinsic knowledge Mormon Stories Thanks Our Generous Donors!Help us continue to deliver quality content by becoming a donor today:One-time or recurring donation through DonorboxSupport us on PatreonPayPalVenmoOur Platforms:YouTubePatreonSpotifyApple PodcastsContact us:MormonStories@gmail.comPO Box 171085, Salt Lake City, UT 84117Social Media:Insta: @mormstoriesTikTok: @mormonstoriespodcastJoin the Discord

In this long awaited interview, James Huntsman, a successful businessman and member of the Huntsman family, joins John Dehlin and fraud attorney Mark Pugsley to discuss his high-profile fraud lawsuit against the LDS Church—how he lost his LDS faith, why he pursued a fraud lawsuit to get a tithing refund, what he learned, and why he has no regrets.Show NotesYouTube00:00:49 Brief overview of James Huntsman's lawsuit00:07:27 Family background info00:18:50 Served a mission at 1800:22:21 Discussion of a kidnapping in their family00:36:27 Emergence of Ensign Peak & church investments 00:49:58 Cracks start developing in James’ faith01:03:03 What led to him deciding to file the suit01:09:35 The downsides of him suing01:17:00 Comparing the organized structure of his family’s business to the disorganization of the church 01:28:55 What sparked his desire to sue the church01:37:00 “It was a very personal battle for me”01:48:40 Statute of limitations for fraud01:54:00 Everyone now knows how much the church has - floodgates of awareness have been opened to the churches bad financial dealings02:07:00 James has no intention of damaging the church02:14:15 The church today does not need members tithing 02:26:00 How did they feel after they filed?02:44:20 Are churches protected from committing fraud02:58:00 James feels relieved that it is all over, and they can talk about it now03:11:29 Final thoughts & ConclusionMormon Stories Thanks Our Generous Donors!Help us continue to deliver quality content by becoming a donor today:One-time or recurring donation through DonorboxSupport us on PatreonPayPalVenmoOur Platforms:YouTubePatreonSpotifyApple PodcastsContact us:MormonStories@gmail.comPO Box 171085, Salt Lake City, UT 84117Social Media:Insta: @mormstoriesTikTok: @mormonstoriespodcastJoin the Discord

For nearly two centuries, Joseph Smith’s involvement in polygamy has been a point of controversy. Historians and more recently, LDS leaders, have affirmed that the Mormon prophet took dozens of wives. But a growing movement within the Church is challenging that narrative, arguing that Smith was a monogamist—and that polygamy was a later invention used to justify the actions of Brigham Young and other church leaders.One of the most vocal advocates of this perspective is Michelle Stone, creator of 132 Problems: Revisiting Mormon Polygamy, a YouTube channel with nearly 120,000 subscribers. A lifelong member of the LDS Church, Michelle once had a strong testimony of polygamy, believing it was divinely inspired. But everything changed ten years ago when her husband questioned whether polygamy was ever truly of God. Determined to prove him wrong, Michelle embarked on a deep dive into historical records—only to find herself questioning whether Joseph Smith practiced polygamy at all.Now, she joins Mormon Stories to share her research, her faith journey, and why she believes the Church has it wrong on one of the most controversial chapters in its history.Show NotesYouTube00:05:22 Why we want to have Michelle on00:15:48 Michelle’s great-grandfather was told by the president of the church to go to Mexico to get a second wife 00:35:07 Her grandfather was called to be a mission president in Tonga, leaving behind other wives00:48:56 She was never taught that Joseph didn’t practice polygamy 01:05:00 Things made more sense once she realized there was problems in church history01:14:00 Trauma of losing a child at the hospital in 2020 during the pandemic 01:24:00 Had an experience where she felt that she saw her daughter grown up01:56:48 Michelle was devastated by the Nov 2015 LGBTQ Policy02:04:50 Discussion of polygamy in the BOM02:14:50 Michelle had a second faith crisis in 202002:32:33 When did she start her YouTube channel “132 Problems”?02:43:34 God saying in the BoM that polygamy is an abomination02:56:01 Has she ever decided differently than what god “commanded”?03:18:15 Discussion on RLDS church and why they split from the LDS church03:19:41 Michelle is asking individuals to “hold a little space” for this new theory03:31:54 Her episode on Emma changed her mind03:49:20 “I have become more confident in my stance since I started speaking out”04:16:57 Michelle’s thoughts on Fanny Alger04:39:45 Why were there rumors of polygamy going on in the church in 1835?05:00:40 Questions on the Nauvoo Expositor05:33:00 How can the church be true if the original men made so many mistakes?05:40:50 What are her thoughts on the church maybe excommunicating her?Mormon Stories Thanks Our Generous Donors!Help us continue to deliver quality content by becoming a donor today: One-time or recurring donation through Donorbox Support us on Patreon PayPal VenmoOur Platforms: YouTube Patreon Spotify Apple PodcastsContact us:MormonStories@gmail.comPO Box 171085, Salt Lake City, UT 84117Social Media: Insta: @mormstories TikTok: @mormonstoriespodcast Join the Discord

In December 2024, the Mormon Church released a new chapter in the children’s Doctrine and Covenants Stories on the topic of polygamy. In that chapter they discuss how God sometimes commands his people to live polygamy and how hard it was for Joseph Smith to obey. The chapter also discusses how Joseph’s wife Emma did not want her husband to marry other women. Children were even taught that some of the brethren were arrested and put in prison for living polygamy.After the release of that chapter many people spoke up, criticizing the church for this new content. Many believed these stories were too heavy for children and that by releasing this chapter the Mormon Church was actively teaching a story of sexual assault and grooming.Today we learned that the church changed this chapter. Certain phrasing was removed as well as entire sections of the chapter. Is this due to online criticism of the church teaching children polygamy? Does the Mormon Church cave under pressure? Join us today as John, Julia (from Analyzing Mormonism), and Alyssa Witbeck discuss these changes.YouTubeShow Notes00:07:55 Clip - Criticism forces the church to change00:25:36 Clip - Nathan Hinckley talking about them using the word “hard”00:26:15 Comparing the original and the new version00:35:20 Clip - Is God okay with forced polygamy?00:36:55 Comparing the changes on the second image00:42:20 Clip - “The Mormon church is participating in sexual assault”00:53:46 Clip - Michelle Stone on Emma Smith00:56:10 In the new version this section has been completely taken out01:01:58 Clip - “How did this get through the review process?”01:15:22 Clip - Mormon leaders went to prison01:19:24 The last panel did not change on Woodruff’s manifesto01:26:08 Polygamy is still hard on women today in an eternal aspect01:36:25 What was the 2015 Exclusion Policy and how the church rolled it back01:32:40 Answers from the Church History Survey01:48:17 The story of Zina Huntington01:50:30 Clip - Can consent be given in a Mormon context?01:54:55 This is a positive change overall02:03:10 What is it that causes people to question their faith?02:06:11 Clip - “A faith that blinds you is problematic”02:08:25 Final thoughts___________________At Mormon Stories we explore, celebrate, and challenge Mormon culture through in-depth stories told by members and former members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints as well as scholars, authors, LDS apologists, and other professionals.  Our overall mission is to: 1. Facilitate informed consent amongst LDS Church members, investigators, and non-members regarding Mormon history, doctrine, and theology2. Support Mormons (and members of other high-demand religions) who are experiencing a religious faith crisis3. Promote healing, growth and community for those who choose to leave the LDS Church or other high demand religionsWant to create live streams like this? Check out StreamYard: https://streamyard.com/pal/d/4530951114981376🤝Help us continue to deliver quality content by becoming a donor todayOne-time or recurring donations: https://donorbox.org/mormon-stories?default_interval=m Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/mormonstories Venmo: https://account.venmo.com/u/mormonstories Paypal: https://paypal.me/mormonstories Join this channel to get access to perks:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCx6OgmoqJbOVRq-Lv1P7SzA/joinOur Platforms:🌐Mormon Stories Blog: https://www.mormonstories.org/episodes 🎙️Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/mormonstories ✳️Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4sDzk7dRjODTSEqzZKZJzk?si=148b0efc1ccc4404&nd=1 🍎Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/mormon-stories-lds/id312094772 🖼️Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mormstories 📱TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@mormonstoriespodcast 🎮Discord: https://discord.com/invite/kuX5p6yyjF Contact us:📧 MormonStories@gmail.com📬PO Box 171085, Salt Lake City, UT 84117#MormonStories #Mormon #lds

A 15 question quiz has been designed to facilitate healthy discussions about factual LDS Church history, and LDS Church historical transparency. It should take less than 5 minutes to complete.Audience: This quiz is for anyone who has ever been an LDS Church member, including active and inactive LDS Church members, and former LDS. Please take this quiz yourself, and then please invite family, friends, and (most importantly) LDS church leaders and missionaries to take the quiz as well.We are hopeful that the survey can serve as a way for you and others to healthily discuss factual LDS Church history, as well as the LDS Church's overall record of historical transparency. NOTE: All of the historical facts below have been recognized by the LDS church as valid, to the best of our understanding. References have been included for discussion.We will be awarding a modest number of cash awards to those who complete the survey in its entirety, and who are willing to share compelling insights or experiences - which might include coming on the podcast to discuss their experiences.  We are also considering the option of administering this survey as a scientific, random survey.  If you are interested in supporting such a project, feel free to donate at the link below.Enjoy! And please email us with any feedback or experiences you'd like to share.Survey link: https://forms.gle/3o7Tr6ZHKzoEBpMs8To donate to this project: https://donorbox.org/ldschurchresearchYouTubeShow Notes00:08:30 Going over the survey together, email, etc.00:12:00 Question one - Were you taught about Joseph Smith’s 1826 Treasure digging trial?00:14:10 Question two: What were you taught regarding the Book of Mormon translation?00:15:50 Question three: What were you taught about the priesthood restoration?00:17:18 Question four: Were you taught that Joseph Smith had over thirty wives?00:18:20 Question five: Were you taught that Joseph Smith hid his first marriages from his wife Emma?00:22:20 Question six: Were you taught about the different accounts of the First Vision 00:24:55 Question seven: Were you taught that Joseph Smith allowed black men to have the priesthood? 00:27:44 Question eight: Were you taught that Joseph Smith was a Freemason?00:29:40 Question nine: Where you taught that the Book of Abraham is a false translation?00:32:10 Question ten: Were you taught about Joseph Smith destroying the Nauvoo Expositor?00:35:00 Question eleven: Do you feel like the Church has been fully honest?00:35:35 Question twelve: Do you feel like the truth claims are important? 00:36:55 Question thirteen: Would you have made different decisions had you known?00:38:29 Question fourteen: Did the church intentionally withhold this information?00:58:40 Why did the church even release the Gospel Topics Essays?01:30:00 Share this survey with friends and familyMormon Stories Thanks Our Generous Donors!Help us continue to deliver quality content by becoming a donor today: ⁠One-time or recurring donation through Donorbox⁠ ⁠Support us on Patreon⁠ ⁠PayPal⁠ ⁠Venmo⁠Our Platforms: ⁠YouTube⁠ ⁠Patreon⁠ ⁠Spotify⁠ ⁠Apple Podcasts⁠Contact us: MormonStories@gmail.com PO Box 171085, Salt Lake City, UT 84117Social Media: ⁠Insta: @mormstories⁠ ⁠TikTok: @mormonstoriespodcast⁠ ⁠Join the Discord

Anna shares her personal journey growing up as a Pentecostal Charismatic in Utah, detailing her experiences within the Assemblies of God (AG) church, and the struggles and beliefs that shaped her faith. Although she has never been Mormon, Anna has a unique perspective of the LDS church as she grew up surrounded by Mormonism in Utah. Anna also delves into her time as a missionary in Mozambique, her eventual questioning of her beliefs, and the emotional journey of leaving the church. The conversation touches on the challenges of leaving a high-demand religion and finding new paths to healing and authenticity.Show NotesYouTube00:04:14 Anna’s intention00:15:35 “Gift of Tongues” vs “Speaking in Tongues”00:25:43 Both of Anna’s parents are pastors00:40:00 The belief in “healing” abilities in Assemblies of God00:56:00 Anna diagnosed with cancer around age two, they thought religion could heal her01:19:20 Why do “mainstream” Christians not see Mormons as Christians?01:33:18 Anna was conditioned to believe that expressing emotion shows closeness to God01:52:08 Anna talks about what it was like to have Mormon parents not want their kids to be around her02:01:17 Speaking in tongues for the first time02:16:50 Creating false memories02:26:45 How are sexual transgressions seen in evangelicalism vs mormonism?02:38:05 Anna stopped attending church and school because she felt so ashamed02:40:50 Anna’s connections with the Latter Day Church of Christ or the polygamist Kingston Group 02:52:41 Anna’s time in Mozambique 03:02:45 It took Anna years to adjust back to normal after her work on her mission03:10:20 Anna felt like God was calling her home to “save the Mormons”03:21:10 Anna voicing: “I have created an image of myself that isn't real”03:38:30 Questioning what to do with her life after leaving that mission03:47:20 Anna began to see red flags in her pastor -he was not financially transparent and sexist03:52:15 Anna’s pastor gives sermon called “Four Bad Reasons that People Leave the Church”04:12:04 Anna feels extremely alone now after leaving04:25:00 Her parents are still not very willing to view things that are critical of the church04:45:13 Watched Margi’s “Coming home to myself” THRIVE presentation04:50:08 What are her moments where she taps into beauty or pleasure?04:53:46 Final questions for AnnaMormon Stories Thanks Our Generous Donors!Help us continue to deliver quality content by becoming a donor today: One-time or recurring donation through Donorbox Support us on Patreon PayPal VenmoOur Platforms: YouTube Patreon Spotify Apple PodcastsContact us:MormonStories@gmail.comPO Box 171085, Salt Lake City, UT 84117Social Media: Insta: @mormstories TikTok: @mormonstoriespodcast Join the Discord

Many have asked the question: Did Mormon Prophet Joseph Smith have sex with his polygamous wives? During his lifetime, Joseph Smith engaged in polygamy (which was illegal in the state of Illinois) and his wives consisted of women who were underage, women who were single, women who were widowed, and women who were already legally married. What is the evidence for his sexual relations with them? Additionally a number of the brethren were also commanded to live polygamy, what is the evidence for sexual relations in those unions? Were any children born in polygamy during the prophet’s life? Join us for a unique LDS Discussions episode where we explore these topics and answer these questions.Show NotesYouTube00:10:50 The purpose of polygamy from the scriptures - Book of Mormon Jacob 2:27-3000:14:05 List of all 35 of Joseph Smith’s wives00:19:45 Color coded list of the wives and sexual relations with Joseph Smith00:26:55 Fanny Alger was Joseph Smith’s first “polygamous” wife00:32:45 Lucinda Pendleton Harris was the first polyandrous wife00:38:20 Zina Huntington was already married and was seven months pregnant00:45:30 Presendia Buell didn’t know if her son was Joseph’s son00:49:42 Levirate Marriage with Agnes Smith, Joseph Smith’s sister-in-law00:58:44 Sylvia Sessions Lyon thought her daughter was actually Joseph Smith’s01:01:15 How can the Mormon polygamy deniers explain this away?01:12:40 Elizabeth Durfee helped Joseph arrange new plural marriages01:19:00 Did Emma Smith push Eliza R. Snow down the stairs?01:22:26 Clip - Emma Smith did not attend Relief Society through all of 184301:30:06 Sarah Ann Whitney had a fake or “front husband” after she married Joseph Smith01:38:00 Joseph Smith visited Flora Ann Woodworth often01:54:50 Lucy Walker answers the question of why Joseph Smith didn’t have children in polygamy02:05:36 Helen Mar Kimball was only fourteen years old02:25:50 Desdemona Fullmer dreamed that Emma was going to poison her02:36:40 Malissa Lott’s testimony that she slept with Joseph Smith02:46:10 Human Trafficking in Mormon history03:03:10 Children born into polygamy03:08:52 The final count for who Joseph Smith had sex with and who he did notMormon Stories Thanks Our Generous Donors!Help us continue to deliver quality content by becoming a donor today:One-time or recurring donation through DonorboxSupport us on PatreonPayPalVenmoOur Platforms:YouTubePatreonSpotifyApple PodcastsContact us:MormonStories@gmail.comPO Box 171085, Salt Lake City, UT 84117Social Media:Insta: @mormstoriesTikTok: @mormonstoriespodcastJoin the Discord