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On this episode of MWMH, Payton and Garrett discuss the murder of college student, Sophie Sergie. Links: Episode Sources:, “Alaska’s cold case murder of Sophie Sergie: Audio of Maine suspect played at trial,” by Associated Press, February 3, 2022, “Man found guilty 29 years after woman found dead in Alaska college dorm bathtub,” by CBS/AP, February 11, 2002   Alaska Public Media,, “Sophie Sergie cold case murder trial ends and goes to jury,” by Robyne, KUAC – Fairbanks, February 8, 2022   Alaska Public Media,, “Man sentenced to 75 years in prison for 1993 murder and sexual assault of Sophie Sergie at UAF,” by Robyne, KUAC – Fairbanks, September 27, 2022   WABI5,, “Steven Downs sentenced to 75 years for 1993 murder of Sophie Sergie in his Alaska college dorm,” by WABI News Desk, September 27, 2022, “Maine Nurse Gets 75 Years For Raping, Killing Woman in Alaska Dorm in 1993,” by Dorian Geiger, September 28, 2022, Sophie Sergie, “The Case of Sophie Sergie: Arrest in Maine,” by Kylie Low, January 17, 2022, Pitkas Point, Alaska   Fairbanks Daily News-Miner,, “Convicted Maine man gets new lawyer for murder appeal in Sophie Sergie case,” by Christopher Williams, January 4, 2023   Copper River Country Journal, “Finally, A Trial. Sophie Sergie Was Killed In a Fairbanks Dorm in 1993,” by Trooper News, 2022, pitkas point, “Who Will Get the First Bath?” by Tasha Deardorff, Rural Alaskan Village Grant Porgram Manager Posted in “Rural,” September 26, 2011, Bartlett Hall (UAF), “Death in Bartlett Hall,” by Michael Kern, no date provided, Daily Sitka Sentinel, “UAF Sets Up Hotline for Parents After Murder,” by Roseanne Pagano, April 27, 1993, Journal and Courier, “Slaying unnerves campus,” by The Associated Press, April 30, 1993, Daily Sitka Sentinel, “UAF Bids Solemn Farewell to Former Student Killed in Dorm,” by Jim Clarke, April 30, 1993, Daily Sitka Sentinel, “Students Moving Out of Dorm Following Slaying,” no author provided, April 29, 1993, Detroit Free Press, “Slaying gives college students ‘wake-up call,’” by Jim Clarke, May 2, 1993, Daily Sitka Sentinel, “Troopers Say Campus Killer ‘Very, Very Angry at Women,’” no author provided, May 10, 1993, Daily Sitka Sentinel, “UA Fairbanks Campus Made Safer After Woman Slain,” no author provided, June 14, 1993   Newspapers, com, Daily Sitka Sentinel, “Family of Woman Slain at UAF Sues for $4 Million,” no author provided, October 27, 1995, Daily Sitka Sentinel, “UA Seeks Settlement in Suit Over Campus Death,” no author provided, December 24, 1996, Daily Sitka Sentinel, “Troopers Using Internet In Murder Investigation,” December 30, 1996, “Anatomy of a cold case: A breakdown of the Steven Downs murder trial,” by Christopher Williams, February 19, 2022, updated March 1, 2022   Anchorage Daily News, “25 years after Sophie Sergie was found dead in a UAF bathtub, Maine man charged with murder,” by Madeline McGee, February 15, 2019, updated February 22, 2019, Regulatory Licensing & Permitting, Steven Harris Downs   News Center Maine,, “Maine man appeals convictions, sentences in Alaska murder,” by Associated Press, October 26, 2022   Assisted research and writing by Diane Birnholz Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
On this episode of MWMH, Payton and Garrett read listeners stories they’ve written to Daisy, the MWMH mascot. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
Trigger Warning: This case includes graphic detail of mutilation. On this episode, Payton and Garrett discuss the serial killer of Sacramento and the brutal slayings he committed. Case Sources: Vampire: The Richard Chase Murders (2015, WildBlue Press), by Kevin Sullivan A Thirst for Blood: The True Story of California's Vampire Killer (2017, Open Road Media), by Lt. Ray Biondi and Walt Hecox sources: Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
On this episode of MWMH, Payton and Garrett discuss the ongoing investigation of Ana Walshe and how her husband is being accused of her murder., “Prosecutors detail extensive evidence in murder case against Brian Walshe, accused of killing his wife Ana Walshe. Here’s what we know,” by Kristina Sgueglia and Elizabeth Wolfe, January 19, 2023, “Brian Walshe denied bail after prosecutor says he stood to gain $2.7 million in life insurance for the death of Ana Walshe,” by Holly Yan, April 27, 2023, “A timeline of the missing Massachusetts mother Ana Walshe and her husband Brian Walshe,” by Eric Levenson, Amanda Watts and Holly Yan, May 3, 2023, “Missing Ana Walshe: Romance with Brian Walshe was ‘love at first sight,’” by Rebecca Rosenberg, Adam Sabes, Stephanie Pagones, January 13, 2023, “Prosecutors say Brian Walshe, who is charged with killing wife, suspected affair,” by Kathy McCormack, April 27, 2023   7News Boston,, “Court documents detail husband of missing woman’s rocky family history,” by Jonathan Hall, Michael Yoshida, January 10, 2023, “Mass. Mom Ana Walshe Had Months-Long Affair with Man in Washington D.C. Before She Vanished: Court Docs,” by Tristan Balagtas, May 3, 2023, “Ana and Brian Walshe’s 3 children in state custody as investigation continues,” by Brandon Truitt, January 12, 2023, “Brian Walshe accused: What we’ve learned about the alleged murder of Ana Walshe,” by Kerry Breen, April 27, 2023, “I-Team obtains Brian Walshe booking photos from 2018 arrest,” by Cheryl Fiandaca, January 14, 2023, “Missing Cohasset Woman’s Husband Was Described as Violent, Deceptive During Probate Case,” by Ryan Kath, January 10, 2023, “Here’s everything we know about what Brian Walshe did in the days, weeks, and years surrounding Ana Walshe’s disappearance,” no author provided, January 18, 2023, “Court docs confirm Ana Walshe affair, which prosecutors referenced as possible motive,” by Abby Patkin, May 3, 2023   Google maps, 516 Chief Justice Cushing Highway, “Police Spoke With Man Having Alleged Affair With Ana Walshe Before Murder: Report,” by Dan Ladden-Hall, April 28, 2023, “Husband of missing woman had business, personal ties to North Shore,” by Julie Manganis, January 10, 2023, “Who is Brian Walshe? Court records show two versions of missing Cohasset woman’s husband,” by Chris Van Buskirk, January 12, 2023, “Who is Brian Walshe, Part I? A clash over his father’s estte,” by Flint McColgan, January 10, 2023, “Brian Walshe: Court docs reveal struggles with mental health, relationship between Ana & his mother,” by Lindsey Thorpe, Boston 25 News Staff and Litsa Pappas, Boston 25 News, January 11, 2023, “’He assumed a mantle of entitlement’: Family friend describes Brian Walshe’s scheming behavior,” by Drew Karedes, January 11, 2023   Assisted research and writing by Diane Birnholz Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
On this episode of MWMH, Payton and Garrett are joined by Kendall Rae and Josh from the Mile Higher Podcast to discuss the disappearance of Matthew Leveson. Mile Higher Podcast: MWMH links and socials: Case Sources: The Sydney Morning Herald, “Murder fears for missing gay man, 20,” by John Kidman and Anthony Stavrinos, October 14, 2007   The Sydney Morning Herald, “Matthew murder mystery: lover charged,” by Arjun Ramachandran and Dylan Welch, August 6, 2008   The Sydney Morning Herald, “Matthew Leveson’s lover says he bought duct tape and mattock because he was a keen gardener,” by Melanie Kembrey, November 1, 2016   The Sydney Morning Herald, “Michael Atkins can’t recall what happened to mattock after Matthew Leveson vanished,” by AAP, November 2, 2016   The Sydney Morning Herald, “National Park remains confirmed as belonging to Matthew Leveson,” by AAP, June 5, 2017   The Sydney Morning Herald, “Why a man acquitted over Matthew Leveson’s death led police to his body,” by Ava Benny-Morrison, August 23, 2017   The Weekend Australian,, “Not guilty verdict doesn’t mean innocent, says Matthew Leveson’s family,” by Margaret Scheikowski, October 20, 2009, “Coroners Court of New South Wales, decision of Magistrate E. Truscott dated August 25, 2017   Special Broadcasting Service,, “The Lost Boy,” by Ian Cuthbertson, March 19, 2016   Special Broadcasting Service,, “Matthew Leveson’s parents take home tree his remains were found beneath,” no author provided, June 5, 2017   Special Broadcasting Service,, “’Relief, anger’: Matthew Leveson’s parents respond to coroner’s inquest open finding,” no author provided, December 5, 2017, updated December 6, 2017, “Parents’ grim three-word warning to young men about the predator who buried their son face-up in a shallow grave as he’s STILL on the prowl for lovers: ‘They need to know,’” by Candace Sutton, October 14, 2022   ABC news,, “Matthew Leveson’s family ‘have searched crime scene before’ looking for missing son,” by Jessica Kidd, November 10, 2016   ABC news,, “Matthew Leveson: Coroner visits bushland site on day six of search for body,” by Ursula Malone, November 15, 2016   ABC news,, “Matthew Leveson: Search for body south of Sydney called off after eight days,” by Ursula Malone, November 16, 2016   ABC news,, “Matthew Leveson case: Can Michael Atkins be tried for boyfriend’s murder again?” by Jessica Kidd and Lucy Carter, June 2, 2017   ABC news,, “Matthew Leveson’s parents tell of fears they would never find son’s body,” by Nicole Chettle, August 24, 2017   ABC News,, “Matthew Leveson inquest: Lies told by boyfriend Michael Atkins but no cause of death found, coroner rules,” by Nicole Chettle and Clare Blumer, December 4, 2017, updated December 5, 2017   Clip from 60 Minutes Australia   Yahoo news,, “Confronting moment Matthew Leveson’s parents show photos of their son’s bones,” by Yahoo7 and Agencies, August 25, 2017   The Daily Telegraph, “Matthew Leveson inquest: Mum breaks down after hearing son was strangled or smothered to death,” by Janet Fife-Yeomans, October 3, 2017   This Old House,, “The 5 Best Pickaxes (2023 Review), by This Old House Reviews Team, “The shrinking world of Michael Atkins,” by Candace Sutton, March 5, 2017, “Matthew Leveson: ‘You wanna know how he died?’ by Grace Tobin, July 31, 2018   New Zealand Herald,, “Ex-lover of Matthew Leveson confessed how he dies, leads police to body,” by, August 23, 2017   Assisted research and writing by Diane Birnholz Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
On this episode of MWMH, Payton and Garrett discuss the devastating kidnapping of Denise Amber Lee and how despite the suspect and victim’s whereabouts being known, it wasn’t such a happy ending. New Podcast Rise N Crime Social Media Links Case Sources: Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
On this Dear Daisy episode, Payton and Garrett read three Dear Daisy stories written in by listeners! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
On this episode of MWMH, Payton and Garrett discuss 14-year-old Daniel Bartlam’s ability to murder his own mother for fun.  Rise N Crime Podcast: Social Media links and Bonus episodes: Case Sources: BBC News, “Nottingham fire death: Boy ‘beat woman with hammer,’” no author provided, January 23, 2012   BBC News, “Nottingham fire death: Boy admits killing woman and burning body,” no author provided, January 31, 2012   BBC News, “Nottingham hammer death: Boy guilty of murder,” no author provided, February 9, 2012   BBC News, “Daniel Bartlam, 15, detained for mother’s hammer murder,” no author provided, April 2, 2012, “Coronation Street killer was ‘fascinated by horror DVDs and violent games from age eight and it was all too easy for him to get hold of them,’ says victim’s former partner,” by Andy Dolan, April 2, 2012, “Stepfather of Daniel Bartlam tells of teenager’s bizarre behavior before ‘Coronation Street’ killing,” by Ruth Styles, January 30, 2014, “Corrie copycat killer: Lad watched soap villain’s hammer murder then butchered mum the same way,” by Louie Smith, April 3, 2012, “Tragic mum beams as she’s pictured with Corrie killer son Daniel Bartlam – who would grow up to murder her,” by Ben Griffiths, February 14, 2013, “Mum of Coronation Street copycat killer could have been saved if she’d got son help,” by Martin Fricker, May 10, 2016, “The chilling story behind the Nottinghamshire boy who killed his own mum,” by Rebecca Sherdley, October 18, 2020, “Jacqueline Barlam murder: My agony over our grandson, 14, who killed his own mum,” by Nottingham Post, July 31, 2017, “When Nottingham’s most notorious criminals are due for release from prison,” by Rebecca Sherdley, August 14, 2021   The Evening Standard, “14-year-old boy charged with woman’s murder,” no author provided, April 28, 2011   The Guardian, “Teenager Daniel Bartlam jailed for killing mother with hammer,” by Sam Jones, April 2, 2012, “The Coronation Street Killer,” by Jacob Wilkins, January 7, 2021, Jacqueline Bryant Bartlam, “You were a special mum. I still miss you every day,” article by James Fielding, April 8, 2012   Crime Traveller, “Daniel Bartlam: A Teenage Boy Convicted of His Mother’s Murder,” by Fiona Guy, June 14, 2022, “Fear Coronation Street ‘copycat killer’ who murdered mum at 14 could be FREED,” by Emily Hall, April 14, 2019   Google maps   Assisted research and writing by Diane Birnholz Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
On this episode of MWMH, Payton and Garrett discuss the 2006 murder of Daniel Ott and the unusual way police were able to catch his killers. Links: Case Sources: The Morning Journal,,,, TheCinemaholic,,,, WCBE News, Riddle Funeral Home, Google maps,, the New York Post, the Orlando Sentinel,, Law & Crime, and a special acknowledgment to the Geauga County Maple Leaf who covered this case in great depth in many excellent articles. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
On this episode of mwmh, Payton and Garrett discuss the puzzling mass murder of 4 individuals at a Maine B&B. Social and Bonus episode links: World app available for apple! Sources:, “3 of 4 Maine B&B Victims Dismembered,” no author provided, September 6, 2006, “Cook charged in 4 grisly murders,” by Glenn Adams, September 6, 2006, “Murder suspect loses 55 lbs. in jail,” by David Sharp, May 4, 2007, “Former S.F. innkeeper, 3 others slain in Maine,” by Jaxon Van Derbeken, September 8, 2006   Q106.5,, “The Scary Stories of 10 Maine Multiple Murderers & Their Victims,” by Cindy Campbell, August 23, 2001, “Do you remember the Maine bed & breakfast serial killer?” by Brittany Rose, August 9, 2022   Portland Press Herald, “Suspect arrested in quadruple slayings near Maine ski resort,” by Gregory D. Kesich, September 6, 2006, “Christian Charles Nielsen”   Google maps   State of Maine v. Christian Nielsen, written opinion of the Maine Supreme Judicial Court, dated May 6, 2008   The Boston Globe,, “Rent dispute may have preceded Maine deaths,” by Michael Levenson and Raja Mishrae, September 7, 2006   The Standard-Times,, “Maine man pleads guilty to killing 4 people in Maine resort country,” by David Sharp, October 10, 2007   The Standard-Times,, “Nielsen said he bought gun and ammo on day he killed Whitehurst,” by Staff Writer, November 7, 2006, updated January 14, 2011   State of Maine Department of Corrections,, “Adult Resident Search”   Sun Journal,, “A troubled childhood,” by Scott Thistle, September 16, 2006   The Oklahoman,, “Man gets life for killings at Maine B&B,” by Clarke Canfield, October 18, 2007, “Where is Christian C. Nielsen Now?” by Noor Malhotra, August 28, 2020   U.S. Census   Arkansas Democrat Gazette, “Man accused of killing 4 in Maine deemed competent to stand trial,” by Associated Press, September 20, 2007   The Bangor Daily News, “Police say accused recounted slayings,” by the Associated Press, July 5, 2007   The Bangor Daily News, “Insanity plea entered in B&B slaying case,” by the Associated Press, May 17, 2007   The New York Times, “Man Is Charged in Killings at Maine Bed and Breakfast,” by Ariel Sabar, September 6, 2006, “Maine bed and breakfast slayings a shock,” by Shelby Bullard, September 6, 2006, “Family mourns ‘super mom,’” by Terry Karkos, September 7, 2006, “Inn’s grisly connection prompts conversion,” by Mainebiz News Staff, September 8, 2009, “Maine police investigate an apparent quadruple homicide,” by Andrew Ryan, September 5, 2006, “Murder victim remembered with memorial in remote spot,” by Clarke Canfield, October 17, 2007   Assisted research and writing by Diane Birnholz Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
*this case involves discussion of suicide* On this episode of MWMH, Payton and Garrett discuss the murder-suicide of mom and daughter, Pam and Helen Hargan. But was it really? Case Sources:, “Police: Daughter Kills Mom, Self in McLean; Child Safe,” July 14, 2017, updated July 15, 2017, “Victim’s Boyfriend Gives Emotional Testimony in Murder-Suicide Hoax Trial,” by Julie Carey, March 9, 2022, “Virginia Woman Found Guilty of Killing Mother, Sister to Get New Trial,” by Julie Carey, November 9, 2022, “Police investigate 2 dead bodies found in McLean home,” by Jennifer Ortiz, July 15, 2017, “McLean mother-daughter ‘murder-suicide’ may be a double murder,” by Peggy Fox, November 15, 2017, updated November 16, 2017, “Fairfax judge vacates double murder conviction of woman accused of killing mom and sister for money,” by Bruce Leshan, November 9, 2022, 48 hours, “Odd crime scene leads to conflicting theories about the shooting deaths of Pam and Helen Hargan,”by CBS News, updated on November 10, 2022, “Defense theory: Shooter used her toe to pull the trigger,” by Lauren A. White, November 10, 2022, “Woman found guilty of murder after staging 2017 murder-suicide scene in Fairfax County,” by FOX 5 DC Digital Team, March 28, 2022, “Conviction Overturned for Woman Who Allegedly Killed Mom and Sister with a Rifle and Rearranged Their Bodies in Effort to Stage Slayings as Murder-Suicide,” by Colin Kalmbacher, November 10, 2022, “Murder-Suicide or Cold-Blooded Killing? Inside a Woman’s Alleged Plot to Kill Her Mom and Sister,” by KC Baker, February 6, 2020, “Where is Megan Hargan now? Charges explored ahead of new CBS 48 Hours episode,” by Nikita Mahato, October 1, 2022, “Va. Jury sentences woman to life in prison for killing mother, sister,” by Justin Jouvenal, March 28, 2022 Abc13 news,, “Police: Woman shoots mother, then herself in McLean home in  apparent murder-suicide,” by Tom Roussey, July 14, 2017, “Virginia Woman On Trial In Mother, Sister’s Killings, Allegedy Staged Slayings as Murder-Suicide,” by Dorian Geiger, March 11, 2002, “Judge Vacates Conviction of Virginia Woman Found Guilty of Murdering Mother, Sister,” by Jax Miller, November 10, 2022, “Murder-Suicides Reach Record High,” by Khaleda Rahman, March 9, 2023, “Daughter Mad At Mom For Not Sending $400K Kills Her & Younger Sister, Stages Scene to Look Like Murder-Suicide,” by Jacquelyn Gray, March 28, 2022, “Aunt of woman who is standing trial for the murder of her mother and  sister in a staged murder-suicide says she ‘feels sick every day’ and fears her niece’s final moments were ‘horrific,’” by Erica Tempesta, March 8, 2022 Fairfax County Police Department News, “Double Murder Suspect Arrives in Virginia; Arraignment set for Wednesday,” by FCPD Public Affairs Bureau, November 19, 2018, “McLean, Virginia” U.S. Census Bureau, McLean, Virginia, “Biography, Pamela D. Hansen Hargan, Vice President for Human Resources and Communications, Sandia National Laboratories” Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
On this episode of MWMH, Payton and Garrett discuss the bizarre disappearance and murder of 67-year-old, Dexter Stefonek, while driving across the country. Case Sources: The Montana Standard, “Body identified as Wisconsin man,” March 20, 1986 The Montana Standard, “No clues in missing man case,” November 22, 1985 Ravalli Republic, “Missing man,” November 21, 1985 Kalispell Daily, “Missing Wisconsin man’s vehicle burns,” November 21, 1985 Green Bay Press-Gazette, “Missing Onedia County man on way home when car found,” by Press-Gazette The Billings Gazette, “Denver hypnotist to probe for details in death case,” by Gazette  Glendive Bureau, April 22, 1986 The Billings Gazette, “Corpse may be missing driver,” by Evelyne Donkersloot, March 10, 1986, “Dexter Stefonek,” by Gazette Staff, March 31, 2017 Wausau Daily Herald, “TV show features Rhinelander murder,” April 8, 1989, “Montana Murder Mysteries: Bad Route Rest Stop Killing,” article and video, by ABC FOX Montana News Staff, September 23, 2019, updated January 8, 2021, “stefonek photo,” September 25, 2019, Dexter Stefonek, “Unsolved Montana Murders,” by Joseph Shelton, October 3, 2022, “1985 Montana rest stop murder still puzzles law enforcement,” by Tom  Lutey, August 27, 2018, “Sign to Bad Route in eastern Montana Along I-94”, Vivian Stefonek The Billings Gazette, “Sheriff checks leads in Glendive slaying, “ by Jill Sundby, April 25,  1989, published in True Crime Addiction, “Bad Route Rest Stop Murder,” by Lisa Marie Fuqua, January 22, 2021, “Bad Route Road”, “Dexter William Stefonek” google maps, “Cold Case Homicide Statistics” Glendive Ranger,, “Thirty-year-old Bad Route Rest Are Murder  Case Remains Unsolved,” by Jason Stuart, November 30, 2015 Assisted research and writing by Diane Birnholz Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
On this episode of MWMH, Payton and Garrett discuss Candra and Julio Torres’ Anniversary trip from back in 1976 that took a turn for the worst. Case Sources: Forensic Files, episode: "Head Games," aired July 22, 2004 on TruTV Empty Promises and Other True Cases (2001, Pocket Books), by Ann Rule sources: The Capital Journal, "Kidnapped Oregon Girl Found Unhurt," 28 October 1961, archived (, citing print edition, p.1 Tony Burton, New York Daily News, "Fatal encounter with a stranger," 27 May 1979, archived, citing print edition, p.113 Links: Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
On this episode of MWMH, Payton and Garrett discuss the murders of Marilyn Green and Jerry Hillard. Case Sources: The Chicago Tribune, The Chicago Sun Times,,,,,,,, The State Journal-Register, The Seattle Times,, Wikipedia,,, and, The Atavist Magazine by Matthew Shaer Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
On this episode of MWMH, Payton and Garrett discuss the tragic murder of father and husband, Cipriano Garcia. New Merch and other links here: Case Sources:, "Cipriano Garcia remembered as family man, military hero," by Gina Czark, November 11, 2033, "Daughter accused of moving Hobart man's body blames others," by Ruthann Robinson, November 23, 2003, "Barbara Garcia wanted to give husband 'Viking funeral'," by Ruthann Robinson, October 1. 2005 Deadly Wives, episode: "The Liar's Club," aired April 3, 2014 on Lifetime sources: Lauri Harvey, The Times of Northwest Indiana, "Homicide victim wrapped in tarp," 5 November 2003, archived (, citing print edition, pp. B1, B4 Lauri Harvey, The Times of Northwest Indiana, "Family IDs body of Hobart resident," 7 November 2003, archived (, citing print edition, pp. A1, A7 Gina Czark, The Times of Northwest Indiana, "Wife Charged in Bizarre Killing of Hobart Man," 11 November 2003, archived (, citing print edition, pp. A1, A4, A12 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
On this episode of Murder With My Husband, Payton and Garrett discuss the murder of Mandy Stavik and how the case was uniquely cracked by civilians. Links: Case Sources: 48 Hours on ID,  episode: “Mandy Stavik: The Case No One Could Forget,” aired June 3, 2020 on Investigation Discovery sources: Carol Ferm, The Bellingham Herald, "Grief for Mandy reflected love and fear, say friends," 10 December 1989, archived (, citing print edition, p.B1 Associated Press, Kitsap Sun, "Student's brother, step-brother died tragically," 30 November 1989, archived (, citing print edition, p.B2 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
On this episode of MWMH, Payton and Garrett discuss the known and potential victims of possible serial killer, Charlie Brandt. Links: Case Sources: Invisible Killer: The Monster Behind the Mask (2013, Titletown Publishing, LLC), by Diana Montane, Charlie_Brandt, Hurricane_Andrew Florida Keys Missing and Unsolved (Facebook group) sources: Associated Press, Palladium-Item, "Psychiatric Test Ordered For Boy Who Shot Mother," 6 January 1971, archived (, citing print edition, p.4 United Press International, Muncie Evening Press, "Fort Wayne Boy Faces Exam in Mother Slaying," 6 January 1971, archived (, citing print edition, p.28 The Miami Herald, "Murder mystery missing key element," 28 November 1995, archived (, citing print edition, p.2B Wanda J. DeMarzo, The Miami Herald, "Lurid case hangs on dog-hair tests," 3 February 2007, archived (, citing print edition, p.1B Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
On this episode of MWMH, Payton and Garrett discuss the murders of almost all off the Rogers Family while on vacation back in 1989. Links: Case Sources: Death Cruise (2007, St. Martin's True Crime), by Donald A. Davis Tourist Trap (2018, Bay Media LLC), by Fred Shrum Forensic Files, episode: "Water Logged," aired January 28, 2011 on TruTV, Oba_Chandler, "Handwriting on billboard led to suspect's arrest,' by Carol A. Marbin, Monica Davey, David Ballingrud, Alicia Caldwell, Chuck Murphy, Bob Port, and Marty Rosen, September 26, 1992, “‘I don’t need any closure.’ Hal Rogers rebuilds his life. Oba Chandler is about to lose his,” by Jamal Thalji, June 5, 2019 sources: Carlos Moncada, The Tampa Tribune, "3 bodies found in Bay," 5 June 1989, archived (, citing print edition, pp. 1A, 3A J.D. Callaway, The Tampa Tribune, "Police believe bodies those of Ohio family," 9 June 1989, archived (, citing print edition, pp. 1A, 12A Bob Andelman, The Orlando Sentinel, "A Deadly Stranger," 26 September 1993, archived (, citing print edition, Florida Magazine pp. 9-11, 16 Wayne K. Roustan, The Sun-Sentinel, "1990 slaying solved," 25 February 2014, archived (, citing print edition, pp. 1A, 9A Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
On this episode of MWMH, Payton and Garrett discuss the abrupt disappearance of mother, Brenda Heist whose case ends with an unforeseen twist. Links: Case Sources:, author: Pam Cunningham, May 2, 2013, author: Laura Smith-Spark, May 4, 2013, author: Cindy Stauffer, January 10, 2014 sources: John M. Hoober III, Lancaster New Era, "Woman missing, police seek clues," 12 February 2002, archived (, citing print edition, p.A12 Cindy Stauffer, Lancaster New Era, "Police, family wonder, worry about missing Lititz mom," 20 February 2002, archived (, citing print edition, pp. A1, A12 Lancaster New Era, "Lititz woman is still missing," 7 March 2002, archived (, citing print edition, p. A14 Cindy Stauffer, Lancaster New Era, "Without a trace," 5 February 2003, archived (, citing print edition, pp. A1, A5 Lancaster New Era, "Group offers reward in case of Lititz missing mom," 27 June 2002, archived (, citing print edition, pp. B1, B10 Cindy Stauffer and Susan Baldridge, Lancaster New Era, "Lititz mom still missing," 12 July 2003, archived (, citing print edition, pp. A1, A5 Jon Butter, LNP Sunday News, "A reward and a prayer," 13 July 2003, archived (, citing print edition. pp. A1, A5 Cindy Stauffer, Lancaster New Era, "7 years without a trace," 5 June 2009, archived (, citing print edition, pp. A1, A6 Jack Brubaker, LNP Sunday News, "Still missing," 9 October 2011, archived (, citing print edition. pp. A1, A8 Mark Scolforo, The Paducah Sun, 1 May 2013, archived (, citing print edition, p.6A Cindy Stauffer, Intelligencer Journal/Lancaster New Era, 2 May 2013, archived (, citing print edition, pp. A1, A4-A5 Tom Knapp, Intelligencer Journal/Lancaster New Era, 12 June 2013, archived (, citing print edition, pp. A1, A4-A5 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
On this episode of MWMH, Payton and Garrett discuss the insane murder of Girly Chew. NEW MERCH DROP AND NEW PODCAST HERE > Case sources: September Sacrifice (2004, Pinnacle Books), by Mark Homer Mommy No. 13: A Child of A Murderer and His Adoptive Mother (2021), by Melinda Miles-Lindberg sources: Scott Sandlin, Albuquerque Journal, "Odd Twists At Heart Of Murder Trial," 30 September 2022, archived (, citing print edition, pp. A1, A4 Scott Sandlin, Albuquerque Journal, "Two Tales Told of Hossencofft Death," 2 October 2022, archived (, citing print edition, pp. A1, A3 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
Comments (151)

Melissa Seddon

arrest the GF who lied.

Jun 1st

Holli Nelsen Watkins

LOVE this couple, their energy together and the victim compassion they ALWAYS honor!

May 26th

Sulaiman Zahid

hey guys this is second time some one follow u plz get gun lol to carry but hidden

May 15th
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Jackie Hinkley

There's a Cheesecake Factory in Boise!

May 8th

Mike H

Helter Skelter is a type of slide at amusement parks (British)

May 1st

Melissa Seddon

wow my home town, never heard of this before. very sad.

Apr 26th

Brandy E

"Girls screaming and wailing when they find out the news about their mom and sister..(yelling)"Try it free for 30 days" What?!? I hate how the commercials always cut right into the story.

Apr 10th

Amber Diercks

tv show for you is the watchful eye! so good!

Apr 3rd


too many "like" out of context (like: I'm like going... he's like opening... we're like running... )

Mar 31st


Bad things about prison there’s lots of gambling behind the wall she’ll probably get her self in trouble and prison for gambling

Mar 10th

Jaret Gilbert

I know your pup has been named by the time I am listening, but Dahlia would be a cool "Murder-y" name lol

Mar 6th

Michelle Ebanks

If I saw my dad just kill his wife im doing whatever he asks because he would have no problems killing me.

Mar 2nd

Holli Nelsen Watkins

Love all of your podcasts!

Feb 20th

Jaret Gilbert

wonder if an employee was involved.... who watches the cameras?? security??

Feb 17th

Jaret Gilbert

A yr and a half late, buuuut have you watched The Umbrella Acadamy?

Feb 16th

Brandy E

Move his disgraceful remains! #Derickmoncada

Feb 9th

Hana Krestt

dose anyone else feel like she was being trafficked

Feb 7th

Claire Cantwell

I fully recommend the book 'Dark Heart' for a great deep dive on this case.

Feb 5th

Brandy E

Utterly horrific!

Feb 2nd

Elaine Rue

Amazing Miracle!!!!!! HIPPA rules deal with health information, though, and is a law here in the US. I think you meant infection control. Love your show!!!!!!!

Jan 17th
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