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Every Tuesday and Friday, tech journalist Kara Swisher and NYU Professor Scott Galloway offer sharp, unfiltered insights into the biggest stories in tech, business, and politics. They make bold predictions, pick winners and losers, and bicker and banter like no one else. After all, with great power comes great scrutiny. From New York Magazine and the Vox Media Podcast Network.

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Kara and Scott are back in your feeds for a special series on the basics of Artificial Intelligence. What should you use it for? What tools are right for you? And what privacy issues should you watch out for? Kylie Robison, Senior AI Reporter for The Verge, joins Pivot with a primer on how to integrate AI into your life. Follow us on Instagram and Threads at @pivotpodcastofficial. Follow us on TikTok at @pivotpodcast. Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or at nymag.com/pivot. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Kara and Scott discuss Disney's succession plans, and Netflix's latest blockbuster earnings. Then, a new report details tensions between Microsoft and OpenAI. But could the two companies realistically walk away from their partnership? Plus, Donald Trump's closing argument takes a vulgar turn, and Elon Musk's million dollar giveaway faces legal scrutiny. Our Friends of Pivot are Chantal Fernandez from The Cut, and Lauren Sherman from Puck. Chantal and Lauren have teamed up to write the new book, "Selling Sexy: Victoria’s Secret and the Unraveling of an American Icon." Follow Chantal at @chantalfdez and Lauren at @lapresmidi. Follow us on Instagram and Threads at @pivotpodcastofficial. Follow us on TikTok at @pivotpodcast. Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or at nymag.com/pivot. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Kara and Scott discuss the latest from the campaign trail: VP Kamala Harris’s potential Joe Rogan appearance, former President Trump’s musical rally, and Elon Musk’s $75 million donation to his pro-Trump Super PAC. Plus, Elon’s big Cybercab reveal, Big Tech's nuclear energy buy-in, and a listener question on financial planning with a parent. Also, answer our listener poll on Threads, here! Follow us on Instagram and Threads at @pivotpodcastofficial. Follow us on TikTok at @pivotpodcast. Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or at nymag.com/pivot. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Pivot is off for the holiday! In the meantime, we're bringing you an episode of On With Kara Swisher. Kara is chatting with Bill Gates, the co-founder and former CEO of Microsoft, and the co-chair of the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation. Bill has been one of the richest people in the world for decades, and he's also spent decades giving away his fortune and working on some of humanity’s most vexing challenges. That’s the focus of his Netflix docuseries What’s Next? The Future with Bill Gates, where he dives into AI, misinformation, global warming, inequality, and disease. Kara pushes him on the issues, his proposed solutions, and the always tricky details — plus, she finds out who Bill wants to win the presidential election.  This interview was recorded in front of a live audience in New York City. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Kara and Scott discuss the highlights of VP Kamala Harris’s press blitz, TikTok being sued by 14 states, and the much-anticipated Tesla robotaxi event. Plus, the DOJ is considering breaking up Google to address its monopoly power on search. Also, a conversation about the danger of hurricane conspiracy theories. Then, our Friends of Pivot Susanne Craig and Russ Buettner join to talk about their new book, “Lucky Loser: How Donald Trump Squandered His Father’s Fortune and Created the Illusion of Success.” You can find Susanne on Threads at @susannecraig, and Russ on X at @russbuettner. Follow us on Instagram and Threads at @pivotpodcastofficial. Follow us on TikTok at @pivotpodcast. Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or at nymag.com/pivot. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Kara and Scott discuss Kamala Harris's big media blitz, and the podcast (aside from Pivot) that she should really appear on. Then, Elon Musk leapt into the air at Donald Trump's weekend rally in Pennsylvania, and a lot of people had thoughts. Plus, Google is finally facing some real competition when it comes to the $300 billion search advertising business. Our Friend of Pivot is Chris Urmson, founder and CEO of Aurora, a start-up focusing on autonomous trucking. Chris explains how Aurora is getting driverless trucks on the road, and why the technology could be good for the economy. Follow Chris at @chris_urmson Follow us on Instagram and Threads at @pivotpodcastofficial. Follow us on TikTok at @pivotpodcast. Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or at nymag.com/pivot. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Kara and Scott discuss OpenAI’s huge new valuation, and Elon Musk’s “corporate puffery.” Then, in election news, a civil VP debate, and newly revealed evidence in the Trump federal election case. Also, Elon Musk has been a Republican donor for far longer than we knew. Plus, the political and economics impacts of Hurricane Helene. Stay tuned for listener mail to hear Kara and Scott’s dating advice! Vote for us as Best Co-Host Team in the Signal Awards here! Follow us on Instagram and Threads at @pivotpodcastofficial. Follow us on TikTok at @pivotpodcast. Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or at nymag.com/pivot. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Kara and Scott discuss California governor Gavin Newsom's veto of the AI bill that divided Big Tech, and Trump Media co-founders dumping $100 million worth of stock. Then, JD Vance and Tim Walz face off, Donald Trump's latest comments hit new lows, and is Kamala Harris leaning into crypto? Plus, a peek at OpenAI's financials reveals massive gains, but bigger losses. Will that be a problem for investors? Our Friend of Pivot is Mike Maples Jr., co-founder of the VC firm, Floodgate, and author of the new book, "Pattern Breakers: Why Some Start-Ups Change the Future." Mike talks about what makes for a successful start-up, and shares the story behind one of his biggest misses. Follow Mike at @m2jr Follow us on Instagram and Threads at @pivotpodcastofficial. Follow us on TikTok at @pivotpodcast. Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or at nymag.com/pivot. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Kara and Scott discuss the biggest announcements from Meta’s Connect conference, and...that shirt. Then, OpenAI executives are jumping ship while the company attempts to go for-profit. Plus, VP Harris has laid out her “pragmatic” economic plans, and former President Trump keeps talking tariffs. Then, a listener question on the role of private equity. Follow us on Instagram and Threads at @pivotpodcastofficial. Follow us on TikTok at @pivotpodcast. Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or at nymag.com/pivot. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Kara and Scott discuss Microsoft's plan to reopen Three Mile Island to power its data centers, and Qualcomm's potential takeover of Intel. Then, Nike gets a new CEO, but will the corporate shake-up get Nike back in the game? Plus, Trump's bizarre messaging around abortion, and Kamala Harris's attempt to get another debate on the calendar. Our Friends of Pivot are New York Times reporters Kate Conger and Ryan Mac, who are out with a new book, "Character Limit: How Elon Musk Destroyed Twitter." Kate and Ryan share behind-the-scenes stories from Elon's Twitter takeover, and weigh in on the latest chaos in Elon-land. Follow Kate at @KateConger and Ryan at @RMac18. Follow us on Instagram and Threads at @pivotpodcastofficial. Follow us on TikTok at @pivotpodcast. Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or at nymag.com/pivot. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Kara and Scott discuss Donald Trump's crypto plans, and Melania's bizarre promotional videos for her book. Then, Instagram is rolling out teen accounts, with default privacy for users under 18, messaging restrictions, and more. Will these changes do some actual good, or will they just help Instagram avoid scrutiny and regulation? Plus, the Fed makes a major rate cut – what does that mean for consumers and investors? Finally, our Friend of Pivot is actor and writer, Justin Theroux. Justin chats about his new movie, "Beetlejuice Beetlejuice," how he's experimenting with AI, and why he's a Pivot superfan. Follow us on Instagram and Threads at @pivotpodcastofficial. Follow us on TikTok at @pivotpodcast. Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or at nymag.com/pivot. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Kara and Scott discuss the apparent assassination attempt on Donald Trump, and what impact (if any) this will have on the election. Then, Tiktok has its day in court, the Biden administration cracks down on Shein and Temu, and what we're learning about OpenAI's future plans. Our Friend of Pivot is longtime tech journalist Evan Ratliff, who embarked on AI experiment with his new podcast, "Shell Game." Plus, Kara and Scott share some fun stories from the big birthday weekend in Scotland. Follow Evan at @ev_rat Follow us on Instagram and Threads at @pivotpodcastofficial. Follow us on TikTok at @pivotpodcast. Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or at nymag.com/pivot. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Kara and Scott discuss the highs and lows of the presidential debate, the potential power of Taylor Swift's endorsement, and Elon's creepy offer. Then, Kara shares what she saw at Apple's big "Glowtime" event, and what to expect from the newest AI products. Plus, a listener mail question on the role of parents when it comes to keeping kids safe online. Follow us on Instagram and Threads at @pivotpodcastofficial. Follow us on TikTok at @pivotpodcast. Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or at nymag.com/pivot. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Kara and Scott discuss the court battle over Rupert Murdoch's empire set to get underway this week. Then, Google and the DOJ are facing off for another major trial, this time Google is facing antitrust claims about its ad business. Plus, predictions on the presidential debate. Finally, our Friends of Pivot are sports icons, Sue Bird and Megan Rapinoe, who are now offering expert analysis every week on their podcast, "A Touch More." Sue and Megan talk about how women's sports has become a booming business, the pros and cons of athletes using social media, and the importance of being politically engaged. Check out Vox Media's "A Touch More: The Podcast" weekly on Wednesdays on YouTube, Apple, and Spotify. Follow Megan at @mrapinoe and Sue at @sbird10. Follow us on Instagram and Threads at @pivotpodcastofficial. Follow us on TikTok at @pivotpodcast. Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or at nymag.com/pivot. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Kara and Scott are reunited and it feels so good! They talk about the latest election polls, tech stocks continuing to struggle, and Apple's role in child safety legislation. Then, after Brazil blocks X, will other countries take on Elon Musk? Plus, what the heck is founder mode and why is everyone in Silicon Valley talking about it? Finally, a listener mail question about the future of Trump Media, as the stock plummets to new lows. Follow us on Instagram and Threads at @pivotpodcastofficial. Follow us on TikTok at @pivotpodcast. Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or at nymag.com/pivot. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
There’s a major internet speech regulation currently making its way through Congress, and it has a really good chance of becoming law. It’s called KOSPA: the Kids Online Safety and Privacy Act, which passed in the Senate with overwhelming bipartisan support late last month. At a high level, KOSPA could radically change how tech platforms handle speech in an effort to try and make the internet safer for minors.  Nilay Patel talks with Verge senior policy reporter Lauren Feiner, who’s been covering these bills for months now, to explain what’s happening, what these bills actually do, and what the path forward for this legislation looks like. Listen to more from Decoder from Nilay Patel here. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Kara is joined by her brother Jeff Swisher, her son Louie Swisher, and best friend of Pivot George Hahn! They discuss the upcoming debate rules and the state of the race, Mark Zuckerberg saying he felt “pressured” to “censor” Covid-19 content, and burnout among teachers and parents. Also a new COVID-19 vaccine is here – when should you get it? Then, a discussion on rawdogging flights… because why not? Follow us on Instagram and Threads at @pivotpodcastofficial. Follow us on TikTok at @pivotpodcast. Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or at nymag.com/pivot. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Kara and guest host Adam Grant discuss whether Democrats can keep running on the politics of joy, the contrasting types of masculinity on the ballot, and the effective leadership tactics that everyone can learn from this election cycle. Plus, what the arrest of Telegram CEO Pavel Durov means for social media platforms and tech execs. Then, our Friend of Pivot is Anupreeta Das, a New York Times journalist, and the author of the new book, "Billionaire, Nerd, Savior, King: Bill Gates and His Quest to Shape Our World." Anupreeta explains how Bill Gates has shape-shifted for better and for worse over the years. Follow Adam at @AdamMGrant Follow Anupreeta at @PreetaTweets Follow us on Instagram and Threads at @pivotpodcastofficial. Follow us on TikTok at @pivotpodcast. Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or at nymag.com/pivot. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Laura Coates joins Kara as co-host to discuss all things DNC! Top speakers, funny moments, and better vibes than the RNC. And of course, Tim Walz’s pep talk for the country. Plus, the latest on the race: RFK Jr. plans to drop out and endorse former President Trump. Then we’re joined by Friend of Pivot and Governor of New Mexico, Michelle Lujan Grisham. Watch Kara and Scott’s interviews with Congressman Maxwell Frost, and Senators Michael Bennet, Mark Kelly and Amy Klobuchar on our YouTube channel here. You can follow Laura on X at @thelauracoates. You can find Gov. Michelle Lujan Grisham on threads at @govmlg. Follow us on Instagram and Threads at @pivotpodcastofficial. Follow us on TikTok at @pivotpodcast. Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or at nymag.com/pivot. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Pivot is at the Democratic National Convention in Chicago! Scott is stuck outside the security perimeter, but you'll still hear from him. Meanwhile, Kara sits down with CNN'S Audie Cornish and Politico's Eli Stokols to break down what Harris and the Democrats need to accomplish this week, and whether it matters that Harris hasn't done an interview since becoming the Democratic candidate. Plus, Governor Tim Walz joins TikTok with his signature dad humor. Can a TikTok ticket translate into actual votes? Follow Audie at @audiecornish and Eli at @EliStokols Follow us on Instagram and Threads at @pivotpodcastofficial. Follow us on TikTok at @pivotpodcast. Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or at nymag.com/pivot. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Comments (111)

Brian Cunningham

I'm pro nuclear but that bumper sticker is wrong. 3 US army operators were killed by a reactor spike in the 1950s. It may have been intentional by one of the operators as a suicide.

Oct 22nd
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thedre

Israel and Iran on the brink of war and you still can't utter the word Israel? What's going on here? you talk about every other major world event.

Oct 5th
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thedre

Ive watched a ton of episodes. Kara does a great job at planning the topics and asking the questions. Scott does great at saying interesting things about those topics and questions. Stick to that!

Sep 30th
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thedre

shot every time Kara says ANYWAY

Sep 30th
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Ted Moran

Listening to Kara engage in a very juvenile and emotional anti Elon discussion has not been interesting, it hasn’t been for some time. Ironically, Kara seems to be dragged down to Elon’s level when she speaks about him. It’d be totally tolerable if she could speak on these topics without supercharged emotions. Passion is good. Having to listen to childish playground insults directed at Musk basically every episode is extremely tiresome. - Not a Musk Fan

Sep 25th
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thedre

If Scott isn't on, I don't listen. he has good insight. Kara does a good job of hosting, but her thoughts are usually off, uninteresting. stop interrupting Scott's thoughts. it feels like Kara doesn't really like Scott, lots of fake laughs going around. to be fair, he has a weird awkward sense of humor. also annoying how she ends sentences with a little whisper and then says "Anyways!"

Sep 22nd
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baby rock

who is fbis guy and what's in his mouth?

Sep 3rd
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Jay D. Gelman

I find myself listening less and less. There is too much politics and hate.

Aug 16th
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Jayne Steuland

if she picked shapiro, she would have to watch her back for 4 years

Aug 6th
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Jessie Ross

I've been tuning into ‘Pivot’ for a while now, and I must say it consistently delivers insightful and thought-provoking content. Scott Galloway and Kara Swisher bring such a unique and balanced perspective to the latest in business, tech, and culture. Their conversations are both engaging and enlightening, making complex topics accessible and interesting. https://www.spreaker.com/episode/custom-packaging-design-trends-of-2024--60837954

Aug 3rd
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Mona Peterson

Pivot never fails to deliver insightful and thought-provoking discussions on the latest in tech, business, and culture. Kara and Scott have such a dynamic rapport, balancing sharp analysis with humor and candidness. https://www.spreaker.com/episode/successful-bakery-packaging-strategies--60715457

Aug 1st
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P

we feel sad for Kara, she seems to have so much missing from her life. sad.......

Jul 2nd
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baby rock

scott, listening to you talk about education is like nails on a blackboard. you're just an adjunct. you don't know anything.

Jan 30th
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baby rock

guest so lame

Jan 30th
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Gina Ruzicka

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Jan 18th
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Enea Koxhioni

Unsubbed because of disappointing takes on the labor movement by Scott as UAW and SAG strikes were building (+ his love of rightw "centrist" Bill Maher). Came back as was curious what their takes on the US' ONGOING funding of genocide of Palestine via Israeli "self-defense" was. Expectedly disappointing. Rather than educate themselves on Israeli historical whitewashing of settler violence against Palestinians for decades, they took the lazy out.😞 Out of touch liberal elite is a sad stereotype.

Dec 8th
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Carlos Barron

"Pivot" is an incredibly insightful podcast that consistently delivers thought-provoking content on navigating change and adapting to new circumstances. Hosted by experts in their respective fields, the discussions on this podcast are not only engaging but also provide practical strategies for individuals and businesses looking to thrive in an ever-evolving world. https://www.whatsyourhours.com/new-york/brooklyn/manufacturers-suppliers/cereal-boxery The depth of analysis and the diversity of topics covered, from personal development to business strategies, make "Pivot" a valuable resource for anyone seeking inspiration and guidance in times of transition. The hosts' ability to bring in diverse perspectives and share real-life examples adds a layer of authenticity that resonates with the audience. Overall, "Pivot" is a must-listen for those who appreciate well-researched insights and actionable advice. https://www.bark.com/en/us/company/cereal-boxery/bQ07d/

Dec 2nd
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Corrie Schmidt

"scott is an annoying jerk, but go ahead" - me, interrupting kara

Nov 23rd
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Aakash Amanat

I thoroughly enjoyed the latest episode of "Pivot." Kara and Scott, your deep dive into the current tech and business landscape is always insightful and thought-provoking. In this episode, your analysis of the evolving role of big tech companies in society, especially in the context of privacy, regulation, and ethical considerations, was exceptionally well-articulated. Your discussion on the recent government actions and how they might impact these companies was particularly engaging. https://www.smartmoneymatch.com/Kraft%20Paper%20Printer Furthermore, I appreciated your take on emerging trends and their potential implications. The exploration of the metaverse, the challenges posed by AI and automation, and the changing dynamics of remote work were all topics that resonated with me. https://www.startus.cc/company/kraft-paper-printer

Nov 2nd
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baby rock

so boring

Oct 11th
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