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Every Tuesday and Friday, tech journalist Kara Swisher and NYU Professor Scott Galloway offer sharp, unfiltered insights into the biggest stories in tech, business, and politics. They make bold predictions, pick winners and losers, and bicker and banter like no one else. After all, with great power comes great scrutiny. From New York Magazine and the Vox Media Podcast Network.

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Kara and Scott discuss Microsoft and Apple ditching OpenAI board seats, the proposed ban on congressional stock trading, and Tesla's EV market share dipping below 50% for the first time. Then, calls for Biden to drop out of the race are mounting, but will the president just wait out the clock? Plus, what the GOP's new platform reveals about a Trump second term, including the implications for Big Tech. Finally, a listener question on deciding where to go for college. Follow us on Instagram and Threads at @pivotpodcastofficial. Follow us on TikTok at @pivotpodcast. Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or at nymag.com/pivot. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Kara and Scott discuss Biden's decision to stay in the race, and what alternate scenarios might look like. Then, after months of negotiations, the Paramount and Skydance merger appears to be (finally) happening. Plus, Apple gets a seat on OpenAI's board, and Threads turns one. Finally, our Friend of Pivot is Brian Derrick, a political strategist, and the founder and CEO of Oath, a fundraising platform that aims to maximize campaign donations. Brian explains how donors are reacting to Biden's continued candidacy, and reveals the high-stakes statewide elections that people should be paying attention to. Follow Brian at @brianderrick_ Follow us on Instagram and Threads at @pivotpodcastofficial. Follow us on TikTok at @pivotpodcast. Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or at nymag.com/pivot. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Pivot is off for the holiday! In the meantime, we're bringing you an episode of On With Kara Swisher. Kara interviews Mira Murati, Chief Technology Officer at OpenAI, and one of the most powerful people in tech. Murati has helped the company skyrocket to the forefront of the generative AI boom, and Apple’s recent announcement that it will soon put ChatGPT in its iPhones, iPads and laptops will only help increase their reach. But there have been some issues along the way - including CEO Sam Altman's brief ouster, accusations of putting profit over safety, and the controversy over whether the company stole Scarlett Johansson's voice. Kara and Murati discuss it all. This interview was recorded live at the Johns Hopkins University Bloomberg Center in Washington, DC as part of their new Discovery Series. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Pivot’s special series on the future of travel wraps up with a last stop: planes. What exactly is happening with Boeing? How will AI play a role in aviation? And most importantly, what is everyone’s favorite, and least favorite airport? Kara and Scott discuss it all with Pete Muntean, CNN's aviation and transportation correspondent, who also happens to be a pilot and flight instructor. Follow Pete at @petemuntean. Follow us on Instagram and Threads at @pivotpodcastofficial. Follow us on TikTok at @pivotpodcast. Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or at nymag.com/pivot. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Kara and Scott discuss the Supreme Court's Trump immunity ruling, and some of the controversial opinions from this term. Then, frustrations, fears, and theories after Biden's disastrous debate. Plus, Amazon prepares to compete in the on-demand fashion arena with Shein and Temu. Can it be a contender? Finally, our Friend of Pivot is Kim Scott, a former Google and Apple executive, and the author of "Radical Respect: How To Work Together Better." Kim explains how to effectively manage employees with respect, as well as candor. Follow Kim at @kimballscott Follow us on Instagram and Threads at @pivotpodcastofficial. Follow us on TikTok at @pivotpodcast. Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or at nymag.com/pivot. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Kara and Scott discuss Nvidia’s roller coaster week, Waymo making robotaxis available for everyone in San Francisco, and what's next for Julian Assange after his release. Then, the Supreme Court rules in favor of the Biden administration in a social media content moderation case. Will that set a precedent for future social media/misinformation rulings? Plus, Volkswagen gives Rivian a $5 billion shot in the arm. Is the deal a win-win for both companies? Finally, a listener challenges Scott on whether OpenAI should really be a for-profit company. Follow us on Instagram and Threads at @pivotpodcastofficial. Follow us on TikTok at @pivotpodcast. Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or at nymag.com/pivot. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Pivot's special series on the future of travel rolls on — next stop, electric vehicles. Is the slowdown in EV sales a temporary blip, or part of a larger trend? When will individuals get a piece of charging station revenues? And what will be the ultimate gamechanger to get people to buy these cars? Kara and Scott discuss it all with Beia Spiller, an energy economist, and the Transportation Program Director for Resources for the Future. Follow Beia at @starbeia Follow us on Instagram and Threads at @pivotpodcastofficial. Follow us on TikTok at @pivotpodcast. Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or at nymag.com/pivot. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Kara and Scott roll their eyes over the latest Elon stories, including the news of his 12th child, and his criticism of Melinda French Gates’ political donations. Then, are longtime adversaries Apple and Meta putting their differences aside for a new AI partnership? Plus, with the presidential debate just a few days away, Kara and Scott share their advice for the candidates. Finally, our Friend of Pivot is Brené Brown, host of the Vox Media podcasts, "Unlocking Us" and "Dare to Lead." Brené explains why she stepped away from podcasting (and why she returned), what worries her about social media, and how people can deal with election anxiety. Follow Brené at @brenebrown Follow us on Instagram and Threads at @pivotpodcastofficial. Follow us on TikTok at @pivotpodcast. Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or at nymag.com/pivot. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Kara and Scott are live at Cannes! They discuss Elon's plan to win back advertisers, and the Surgeon General's proposal for warning labels on social media. Then, what brands are using AI most effectively right now? Plus, the EU's hard-right parties just harnessed the youth vote in recent elections. What role will the younger generation of voters play in the upcoming U.S. presidential election? Recorded on June 18th at the AdWeek House in Cannes, France DISCLAIMER/ONLY IN CANNES: Our live taping of Pivot in Cannes had some brief competition from the Olympic torch passing by. That led to some mild audio interference at the top of the show. We've minimized it as much as possible, and hope it doesn't impact your enjoyment! Follow us on Instagram and Threads at @pivotpodcastofficial. Follow us on TikTok at @pivotpodcast. Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or at nymag.com/pivot. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
All aboard for Pivot's special series on the future of travel, examining the big changes coming to the way we get around the world! Will 2024 be the year that high-speed rail becomes reality in the United States? How did the U.S. get so far behind other countries? And what cities have the best train systems? On this episode, Kara and Scott talk trains with Yonah Freemark, the principal research associate at the Urban Institute, who also writes the blog, The Transport Politic. Follow Yonah at @yfreemark Follow us on Instagram and Threads at @pivotpodcastofficial. Follow us on TikTok at @pivotpodcast. Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or at nymag.com/pivot. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Kara and Scott discuss the drama surrounding the Washington Post's new publisher and incoming editor, as well as Amazon's One Medical facing questions about its call centers. Then, Stanford's Internet Observatory, a prominent disinformation research group, is facing an uncertain future amid ongoing political attacks. Plus, OpenAI announces its newest board member, and might be moving closer to becoming a for-profit company. Finally, our Friend of Pivot is California State Senator Scott Wiener. Senator Wiener is working to pass an AI regulation bill, but not everyone in Silicon Valley is happy about it. Follow Scott at @Scott_Wiener Follow us on Instagram and Threads at @pivotpodcastofficial. Follow us on TikTok at @pivotpodcast. Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or at nymag.com/pivot. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Kara and Scott discuss North Dakota voting in favor of placing age restrictions on congressional candidates, X making likes private, and Tesla shareholders voting on Elon Musk’s pay package. Then, Apple stock is surging after the company revealed its AI plans, and Paramount’s merger talks with Skydance fall apart. Plus, a listener question on the latest drama with Justice Alito. Follow us on Instagram and Threads at @pivotpodcastofficial. Follow us on TikTok at @pivotpodcast. Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or at nymag.com/pivot. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Kara and Scott discuss Apple finally unveiling AI plans. Can it pull ahead in the AI race? Then, Sandy Hook families may finally get some of their settlement, as Alex Jones moves to liquidate his assets. Plus, AI start-up Perplexity is in hot water with news publishers, Amazon expands its robotaxi testing to more cities, and a proposed Texas Stock Exchange throws its hat in the ring. Finally, our Friends of Pivot are Wall Street Journal investigative reporter, Brody Mullins, and Politico contributing writer, Luke Mullins. The Mullin Brothers have written a new book, "The Wolves of K Street: The Secret History of How Big Money Took Over Big Government," and they explain how tech companies changed the lobbying game. Follow Brody at @BrodyMullinsDC and Luke at @LMullinsDC. Follow us on Instagram and Threads at @pivotpodcastofficial. Follow us on TikTok at @pivotpodcast. Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or at nymag.com/pivot. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Kara and Scott discuss New York's plan to regulate social media for kids, X's new rules on adult content, and Shane Smith's latest venture at Vice. Then, federal regulators move forward with antitrust investigations in the AI sector, while Nvidia surges to a $3 trillion market cap, and gets ready for a stock split. Plus, a group of current and former OpenAI employees call for transparency and whistleblower protections. Finally, a listener question about the recent ruling that blocks Fearless Fund from issuing grants to Black female entrepreneurs. Follow us on Instagram and Threads at @pivotpodcastofficial. Follow us on TikTok at @pivotpodcast. Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or at nymag.com/pivot. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Kara and Scott discuss the Paramount/Skydance merger, the Washington Post's major changes at the top, and Salesforce's worst trading day in 20 years. Then, Google is in damage control mode after a document leak raises questions about search, and its new AI Overviews feature goes viral for all the wrong reasons. Plus, Tesla shareholders are getting ready to vote on reinstating Elon Musk's multi-billion dollar pay package. Will Elon come out on top? Finally, our Friend of Pivot is CNN's Chief Legal Analyst Elie Honig. Elie discusses his New York Magazine column on why he believes the Trump hush money case was flawed, and he looks ahead to next month's sentencing. Follow Elie at @eliehonig. Follow us on Instagram and Threads at @pivotpodcastofficial. Follow us on TikTok at @pivotpodcast. Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or at nymag.com/pivot. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Kara and Scott discuss what impact the Trump hush money trial outcome could have on the election, and whether a Trump second term could include Elon Musk in an advisory role. Then, OpenAI announces a new model in the works, the formation of a safety committee, and more deals with publishers. Plus, Melinda French Gates announces a $1 billion donation to support women, families, and reproductive rights. Are the ex-wives of tech billionaires creating a new era of philanthropy? Finally, Kara and Scott take a listener question on the products and devices they can't stand. Note: This episode was recorded before former President Donald Trump was convicted on 34 felony counts. Follow us on Instagram and Threads at @pivotpodcastofficial. Follow us on TikTok at @pivotpodcast. Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or at nymag.com/pivot. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Pivot will be back on Friday! In the meantime, we're bringing you an episode of On With Kara Swisher, all about someone we just don't discuss enough – Elon Musk. Kara has assembled a panel of experts, to get their take on all things Elon: Kirsten Grind from the New York Times, Becky Peterson from The Information, and Tim Higgins, Wall Street Journal columnist, and author of "Power Play: Tesla, Elon Musk, and the Bet of the Century." The group talks Tesla, Twitter/X, SpaceX, and more. Follow and subscribe to On With Kara Swisher here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Kara and Scott discuss the Department of Justice's antitrust suit against Live Nation, News Corp's $250 million deal with OpenAI, and Nestle's new frozen food brand aimed at Ozempic users. Then, Scarlett Johansson alleges OpenAI copied her voice after she refused to license it to Sam Altman, though new reporting says a voice actress was hired months earlier. How does OpenAI move past these accusations, and regain trust? Plus, Nvidia shares blockbuster earnings, while Trump Media's numbers are lackluster. Finally, our Friend of Pivot is Julia Angwin, CEO and founder of Proof News, and a contributing opinion writer for the New York Times. Julia shares why she thinks AI hype is overblown, and why she opposes the TikTok ban. Follow Julia at @juliaangwin Follow us on Instagram and Threads at @pivotpodcastofficial. Follow us on TikTok at @pivotpodcast. Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or at nymag.com/pivot. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Kara and Scott discuss Disney character and parade performers voting to unionize, whether a global tax on billionaires could actually happen, and Supreme Court Justice Samuel Alito's wife flying an upside-down American flag. Then, the Dow passes the 40,000 mark as other markets surge. But are meme stocks creating a little too much froth for investors? Plus, OpenAI deals with another high-profile departure over safety concerns. Follow us on Instagram and Threads at @pivotpodcastofficial. Follow us on TikTok at @pivotpodcast. Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or at nymag.com/pivot. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Kara and Scott discuss the Senate's new AI "Roadmap to Legislation," the Biden administration's tariffs on Chinese EVs, and Mark Zuckerberg's 40th birthday bash. Then OpenAI and Google reveal their latest AI models and features. Should we be worried about our AI future? Plus, President Biden and former President Trump are set to face off in two debates — Kara is excited and Scott has concerns. Finally, a listener mail question on setting kids up for the financial road ahead. Follow us on Instagram and Threads at @pivotpodcastofficial. Follow us on TikTok at @pivotpodcast. Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or at nymag.com/pivot. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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we feel sad for Kara, she seems to have so much missing from her life. sad.......

Jul 2nd
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baby rock

scott, listening to you talk about education is like nails on a blackboard. you're just an adjunct. you don't know anything.

Jan 30th
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baby rock

guest so lame

Jan 30th
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Gina Ruzicka

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Jan 18th
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Enea Koxhioni

Unsubbed because of disappointing takes on the labor movement by Scott as UAW and SAG strikes were building (+ his love of rightw "centrist" Bill Maher). Came back as was curious what their takes on the US' ONGOING funding of genocide of Palestine via Israeli "self-defense" was. Expectedly disappointing. Rather than educate themselves on Israeli historical whitewashing of settler violence against Palestinians for decades, they took the lazy out.😞 Out of touch liberal elite is a sad stereotype.

Dec 8th
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Carlos Barron

"Pivot" is an incredibly insightful podcast that consistently delivers thought-provoking content on navigating change and adapting to new circumstances. Hosted by experts in their respective fields, the discussions on this podcast are not only engaging but also provide practical strategies for individuals and businesses looking to thrive in an ever-evolving world. https://www.whatsyourhours.com/new-york/brooklyn/manufacturers-suppliers/cereal-boxery The depth of analysis and the diversity of topics covered, from personal development to business strategies, make "Pivot" a valuable resource for anyone seeking inspiration and guidance in times of transition. The hosts' ability to bring in diverse perspectives and share real-life examples adds a layer of authenticity that resonates with the audience. Overall, "Pivot" is a must-listen for those who appreciate well-researched insights and actionable advice. https://www.bark.com/en/us/company/cereal-boxery/bQ07d/

Dec 2nd
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Corrie Schmidt

"scott is an annoying jerk, but go ahead" - me, interrupting kara

Nov 23rd
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Aakash Amanat

I thoroughly enjoyed the latest episode of "Pivot." Kara and Scott, your deep dive into the current tech and business landscape is always insightful and thought-provoking. In this episode, your analysis of the evolving role of big tech companies in society, especially in the context of privacy, regulation, and ethical considerations, was exceptionally well-articulated. Your discussion on the recent government actions and how they might impact these companies was particularly engaging. https://www.smartmoneymatch.com/Kraft%20Paper%20Printer Furthermore, I appreciated your take on emerging trends and their potential implications. The exploration of the metaverse, the challenges posed by AI and automation, and the changing dynamics of remote work were all topics that resonated with me. https://www.startus.cc/company/kraft-paper-printer

Nov 2nd
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baby rock

so boring

Oct 11th
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baby rock

Scott, buy a microphone you cheap inaudible bastard.

Sep 22nd
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Enea Koxhioni

Had to pause at 23:30 to rant. You don't think attacking corporations messages well in our current economic climate? When both income disparity and corporate profits are at record highs? And companies have the power of nation states but none of the incentives to help everyday people? Is that why Bernie was the more popular candidate when the DNC stole his 2016 nomination and gave it to sociopathic smiling puppet (who I can only imagine you would have loved) that then proceeded to lose to a more honest sociopath demogoging as a populist? Because Bernie's policies were unpopular? I can see how anyone may be a tad myopic given that worldview is always somewhat predetermined by SES, but how much of your own colon have you inhaled at this point? This is is such MSNBC centrist bootstrapping horseshit. Wake the fuck up dude. 2001 is over. Rampant capitalism had its shot. And Biden didn't bring everyone together. Not once did you underscore a federally mandated minimum wage increase as a solut

Sep 10th
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Aakash Amanat

It's fascinating to see how businesses and individuals alike often find themselves at a crossroads where they need to pivot. A pivot can be both a challenging and an exciting prospect. It requires careful consideration, a deep understanding of the current situation, and a willingness to adapt to new circumstances. https://trueen.com/business/listing/prime-butcher-wrap/341030 When a company pivots, it's essentially a testament to its resilience and willingness to evolve. It's not about giving up on the original vision, but rather about acknowledging the need for change in order to stay relevant and meet the evolving needs of the market. https://www.merchantcircle.com/prime-butcher-wrap-chicago-il

Aug 19th
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Karluigi Marie

College changed my life when I was a single parent. No monumental greatness but from a non living wages to now as a woman in my family I own a house and I never have to worry about food or gas. I work for the state and 10,000 of my loans were discharged at age 59. i never complained about those loans once. My son has a masters and paid off his loans before he had children. Good government did that! I add value to my country because my country valued me. I am very fortunate.

Jul 30th
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Enea Koxhioni

guys these links have been broken for weeks now. what's up?

Jul 29th
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Karluigi Marie

First time listener. Loved it!

Jul 22nd
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Enea Koxhioni

CNN *hard* left? 🤣 Are you even alive boss? I guess it's a foregone conclusion to Scott that to even be on the US political spectrum you have to be hardcore capitalist. The centre between fascistic antidemocracy and anti-tax anti-worker "social" progressives is not "the left". It is indeed facism light which is what we see in America today. This is why "centrist" news is dying and the appetite for actual european style socialist policies is satisfied by youtube pundits rather than these dying for-profit legacy hacks. Because their business models prevent them from calling a spade a spade. Also being anti Trump doesn't make someone a leftist lol. It just means that more people in America (barely) would like to keep trying to make democracy work and not hand it over to a likely autocrat.

Jun 11th
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vaness

I love how you guys think people in Toronto are nice lmfao. -canadian girl.

May 6th
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Enea Koxhioni

LOL. 😆 Scott instantly personalizing this as an attack and going on defense. She was an amazing and v well prepared guest.

May 3rd
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Enea Koxhioni

One of the few times Scott seems more awake than Kara. Dickriding Biden as a progressive when he's basically a moderate corporate Republican c 2001 in the midst of a fascist rise is nonsense. Looking at his actions he fought against rail workers while preaching unions, let the child tax credit lapse, ignores the min wage, wants to 'fund the police', funds apartheid in Palestine while backing Israel, and has yet to meet his own promise on student debt. A bit of Bernie Sanders? Gimme a break. The man is a career politician and is so afraid to offend either "side" he'll never be as effective as the moment demands. The bulk of one "side" are literal fascists that threaten every (poor) minority's peaceful existence through legislative persecution. How do you reach out to bipartisan w that? Do not let their clownishness obscure the very real threat and power they weild.

Feb 12th
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vaness

PLEASE stop talking about Elon Musk and Twitter!

Dec 31st
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