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Author: Victor Antonio

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Today's buyer is more informed and more skeptical when it comes to buying. In this podcast, we'll discuss "Finding the Why in How Clients Buy" by using the latest studies in consumer behavior and neuromarketing to sell more effectively!
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Cost and Impact of Channel Switching Channel switching can lead to significant financial losses, with an insurance company saving $141,000 per 500,000 calls by getting just 2 out of 10 customers to self-serve on their website. A conservative estimate suggests that a company with an average deal size of $10,000 could lose $120,000 per year in revenue due to a website that's difficult to navigate. Customer Experience and Behavior Customers switching between multiple channels (website, chat, phone, email, Skype) to find information or resolve issues leads to increased frustration and lost business. Funneling customers quickly to the information they need on a website, making it easy to find and quick to access, can reduce channel switching and increase sales. Sales Strategy Reducing customer effort in finding information increases the likelihood of them reaching out to buy, potentially boosting conversion rates and revenue.
Compensation Strategy ๐Ÿ’ฐ Compensation plans directly influence salesperson behavior, with effective plans tying quotas to pocketbook to motivate salespeople to hit numbers and grow the company. ๐Ÿ“Š Quota-based commission plans can be designed to provide a bonus for exceeding quota, motivating salespeople to push beyond their targets. Psychological Factors ๐Ÿง ย Commission plans should be designed with psychological considerations in mind, as they significantly impact salesperson behavior and motivation. Performance Drivers ๐Ÿ“ˆ Commission tied to quota motivates salespeople to hit their numbers, offering a higher percentage of sales revenue when meeting or exceeding quota. ๐ŸŽฏ When salespeople aren't meeting quotas, the primary issue is often the compensation plan, not sales training, as it fails to provide adequate motivation.
Reading Strategies ๐Ÿ“š Only 8% of people read non-fiction business books, while the remaining 92% miss out on introducing new ideas and insights. ๐Ÿ†ย Implement the "100-page rule" to overcome reading hurdles: read the first 100 pages and decide whether to continue or donate the book to Goodwill. Information Extraction ๐Ÿ–Š๏ธย Mark up books with tags, underlines, and circles to highlight key information, then rescan to capture an additional 5-10% retention. Book Management ๐Ÿงนย Maintain a "Golden Bookshelf" by regularly purging books and keeping only the best of the best. Categorization ๐Ÿ“Šย Organize books into three categories: sales, influence and persuasion, and AI for efficient reference and learning.
Customer Decision-Making ๐Ÿ›’ Guiding customers through choices rather than telling them what to buy leads to a more effective sales experience and increased likelihood of purchase. ๐Ÿง  Paralysis by analysis occurs when customers face too many options, as demonstrated by a Stanford study showing only 3% approached a table with 24 flavors versus 30% for 6 flavors. Sales Techniques ๐ŸŽฏ Funneling choices from many to few (e.g., 24 to 6, then to 2-3) helps customers make decisions more easily and reduces buyer's regret. โ“ Asking qualifying questions to understand customer needs and providing 2-3 tailored options creates a more personalized and effective selling approach. Customer-Centric Approach ๐Ÿค Validating customer preferences through targeted questions and narrowing choices based on their responses enhances the overall customer experience and increases sales success.
Performance Management ๐ŸŽฏ Measure output to manage results and avoid micromanaging, but switch to measuring activities when not hitting numbers to guarantee output, as per Dr. Michael Lebau's "The Greatest Management Principle in the World" (1985). ๐Ÿ“Š To ensure output, focus on key metrics introduced by Frank B. Kern in the 1940s-50s: cold calls, call-to-meeting ratio, pipeline size, average deal size, close rate, and sales cycle length. Diagnostic Approach ๐Ÿ”ย When performance lags, zoom in on specific activities while maintaining oversight of high-level dashboard metrics like sales, new clients, and revenue. Motivation and Rewards ๐Ÿ†ย Recognize and reward desired activities through both monetary and non-monetary means (e.g., encouragement) to motivate people and drive the right behaviors. Strategic Shift ๐Ÿ”„ย Flip the equation from output measurement to activity measurement when targets are missed, ensuring that the right activities are being performed to achieve desired outcomes.
The Cycle of Success ๐Ÿ”„ Attitude leads to activity, which leads to achievement, which reinforces attitude in the "wheel of success" cycle. ๐ŸŽฏ Results guarantee a good attitude, not vice versa, as achieving goals validates one's approach and boosts self-esteem. Overcoming Procrastination ๐Ÿ‹๏ธ Jordan Peterson's strategy of "lowering the bar" involves breaking goals into smaller, manageable sub-goals to build momentum and confidence. ๐Ÿ“š Example: To read more books, start with one page a day and gradually increase, creating a habit and overcoming procrastination. Momentum and Motivation ๐Ÿš€ Getting results drives a good attitude, creating a positive feedback loop where small achievements lead to greater goals and motivation. ๐Ÿ’ช The "Peterson principle" of breaking down activities into achievable sub-goals is a powerful strategy for overcoming procrastination and achieving success.
There are three customer buying situations that dictate the approach a salesperson should take. First, for clients not currently using any solution, the presentation must create a sense of need and urgency for the product. Second, when customers are using a do-it-yourself or in-house solution, the sales strategy shifts to an advantage presentation, highlighting the superior benefits of the offered product. Finally, for clients already utilizing a competitor's product, the focus becomes a switchover presentation, emphasizing the positive outcomes and ease of transitioning to the new system. Understanding these states allows salespeople to tailor their presentations effectively, moving beyond generic pitches to address specific customer contexts.
Compensation and Motivation ๐Ÿ† The most motivated salespeople achieve a great balance between loving their product and feeling financially appreciated by their company through an effective compensation plan. ๐Ÿ’ฐ Salespeople require monetary compensation, not just gratitude and joy, to pay bills and stay motivated in delivering value-centric, customer-focused service. Sales Performance Framework ๐Ÿ“Š The "left side of the ledger" in sales represents what salespeople do for customers, while the "right side" reflects their financial rewards, forming a holistic performance framework. Management Strategy ๐Ÿ‘” Managers should prioritize creating a compensation plan that excites and motivates salespeople to provide value-centric, customer-centric service on behalf of the company. Employee Appreciation ๐ŸŒŸ Companies can demonstrate appreciation for salespeople by implementing a compensation structure that aligns with their efforts in delivering customer value and achieving sales targets.
Key Insights on Speaker Types ๐ŸŽ™๏ธ The 80/20 rule applies to speakers: 80% are descriptive, focusing on market trends, while 20% are prescriptive, providing actionable steps. ๐Ÿ” Descriptive speakers concentrate on "what's happening" in the market, detailing changes in sales processes and buyer behavior. ๐Ÿ› ๏ธ Prescriptive speakers are tactical, offering step-by-step implementation plans and focusing on behavioral changes for market success. Effective Communication Strategies ๐Ÿ”€ The most effective speakers balance description and prescription, providing both market insights and actionable advice. โš–๏ธ When communicating with customers, striking a balance between descriptive and prescriptive approaches is crucial for optimal engagement and results.
Vision vs. Mission Board A vision board displays aspirational items like a Bugatti or mansion, while a mission board breaks down daily activities to achieve those goals, such as making 27 calls per day to close 20% of deals and earn $20,000/month. Sales Pipeline Breakdown To afford a $240,000 Bugatti, one must earn $20,000/month for 12 months, requiring 4 sales per month with an average commission of $5,000 each and maintaining 20 deals in the pipeline with a 20% close rate. Achieving the Bugatti goal necessitates making 600 calls per month to get 20 deals in the pipeline, closing 4 deals monthly with a 20% close rate. Daily Sales Activities With 22 working days per month, a salesperson must make 27 calls per day to reach the required 600 calls per month for maintaining the necessary pipeline. The sales funnel breakdown shows thatย 30 calls lead to 10 meetings, resulting in 1 closed deal at $5,000, illustrating the importance of consistent daily activity to achieve long-term goals.
Compensation Structure A base plus Commission plan is optimal for long sales cycles (3-5 months), providing a motivating base salary and Commission tied to quota to encourage salespeople to accelerate revenue beyond targets. In this model, salespeople earn a percentage of base salary as Commission, with payouts starting at 50% of quota and increasing as they achieve higher percentages. Motivation and Performance Accelerators like 150% payout for sales above quota and 200% payout for exceeding 1.5 times quota create financial energy driving salespeople to sell more. A quota-based Commission plan outperforms a percentage of sales plan by tying rewards to quota achievement rather than raw sales performance. Plan Design Effective plan design involves setting aย base salary, quota, and determining the Commission structure with specific percentages and payouts for each quota level achieved. This structure creates a financial incentive that motivates salespeople to hit their numbers and accelerate revenue beyond quota, benefiting both the individual and the company.
Building Trust and Overcoming Anxiety ๐Ÿค To alleviate mental pain from bad past experiences, provide similar recent projects, video testimonials, and references to build trust. ๐Ÿ’ฐ Address budget concerns by directly asking about price range, offering options within that range, and providing payment plans to make purchases more manageable. Managing Expectations and Decision-Making โฐ Overcome timing issues by providing realistic timelines, highlighting potential delays, and tying conversations to past experiences to manage expectations. ๐Ÿ” To address overbuying or underbuying anxiety, offer good, better, best options and inquire about long-term plans to ensure selling the right solution. Demonstrating Expertise and Pricing Strategy ๐Ÿ† Demonstrate expertise through insight, information, and proof of similar jobs to help clients trust themselves and make decisions when faced with too many options.
Brent Adamson reveals why most sales reps fail to connect with buyers - and his breakthrough approach that makes customers actually want to talk to you. Grab a copy of Brentโ€™s new book โ€œThe Framemaking Sale: Sell More by Boosting Customer Confidenceโ€ (Amazon): https://geni.us/FramemakingSale Brent exposes the hidden psychology behind buyer decision-making and introduces his revolutionary "Framemaking" mindset. After analyzing thousands of B2B purchases, Adamson discovered the single factor that drives high-value, low-regret deals - and it's not what you think. You'll Learn: โ€ข The "confidence margin" that determines whether prospects buy or stay stuck โ€ข Why the "smartness arms race" killed traditional sales differentiation โ€ข His "supplier agnostic" mindset that transforms you into the rep customers seek out โ€ข The frame-making technique that helps overwhelmed buyers become confident decision-makers This isn't about product expertise or objection handling - it's about becoming the one salesperson customers trust to help them trust themselves. Discover why your humanity, not your knowledge, is your ultimate competitive edge in the AI era. โœ… A to B Insight: https://www.atobinsight.com โœ… The Framemaking Sale website: https://www.theframemakingsale.com 00:00 Welcome Brent Adamson! 04:08 Unexpected Collaboration Origin Story 09:41 High-Quality Buyer Content Feedback 10:26 Challenger Approach: Customer-Centric Insight 14:57 "Navigating Conflicting Insights Effectively" 18:54 High-Quality Purchase Drivers 20:42 Human Emotion in B2B Purchases 24:31 Decision Confidence and Uncertainty 26:25 "Feeling-Driven Business Success" 31:38 AI-Assisted Decision Making 33:12 "Capitalizing on Human-AI Sales Moments" 36:43 Customer-Centric Advisory Approach 40:16 Inspired Leadership: Customer-Centric Focus 43:00 AI vs. Human Sales Complexity 48:25 "Differentiate by Empowering Customers" 49:22 CRM Decision Impact Concerns
Sales Strategy ๐ŸŽฏ Pretending the "invisible spouse" or "invisible boss" is present during sales conversations can shorten the sales cycle and facilitate easier buying decisions. ๐Ÿค” Asking customers what their spouse or boss would think about specific features validates understanding of needs and concerns, potentially revealing more insightful information. Customer Psychology ๐Ÿ˜Š By addressing concerns as if the absent decision-maker were present, salespeople can extract more genuine thoughts from the customer and accelerate agreement. ๐Ÿšซ When customers mention needing to consult others, avoid taking it personally or attempting to sell to the higher authority directly. Communication Technique ๐Ÿ’ก Instead of directly asking about the spouse's or boss's opinion, inquire what the customer thinks their spouse or boss would think, encouraging more authentic and informative responses.
Lead Classification and Management ๐ŸŽฏ Cold, warm, and hot lead categorization enables sales teams to prioritize efforts and allocate resources more efficiently, focusing on the most qualified and interested prospects. ๐Ÿ” A lead is defined as contact information for a potential customer who might be interested in a product or service, distinct from a prospect or customer. Lead Generation Strategies ๐Ÿค Referrals are a key source of high-quality leads, which can be cold, warm, or hot depending on the source and level of qualification. Sales Effectiveness ๐Ÿ“Š Understanding lead definitions and categories is crucial for developing effective sales strategies and lead generation processes. Continuous Learning ๐ŸŽ“ The Sales Influence Podcast offers valuable insights on sales strategy and lead generation, serving as a resource for sales professionals to enhance their skills and knowledge.
15 Step Contractor Sales Process Designed specifically for contractors and businesses that serve residential customers, such as those in roofing, landscaping, or pool installation. Start with qualifying potential clients and setting appointments. The process continues with on-site preparations, initial greetings, and thorough questioning to understand the client's needs. Victor outlines a multi-stage walkthrough and debriefing process for the service area, leading to an upfront agreement that manages client expectations. Prepare and presentation of multiple quote options, securing commitment, contract signing, and scheduling the service.
Customer Profiling Essentials ๐ŸŽฏ A customer profile comprises key characteristics including demographics, psychographics, firmographics, and behavioral graphics, enabling businesses to target ideal customers effectively. ๐Ÿ‘ฅ Demographics (age, gender, location) and psychographics (religion, politics, mental disposition) provide crucial insights into individual consumer traits. B2B Sales Strategies ๐Ÿข For B2B sales, firmographics such as market segment, industry, company age, employee count, and annual revenue are essential for identifying potential clients. Data-Driven Sales Optimization ๐Ÿ“Š Utilizing a CRM system with artificial intelligence to track and analyze customer data can predict ideal customers and reduce sales cycles. Targeted Marketing Approach ๐ŸŽฏ Defining 1-3 ideal customer profiles helps businesses target the right audience and increase sales conversion rates through more effective selling strategies.
Overcoming Negative Programming ๐Ÿง  Negative self-programming, like "don't talk to strangers," can hinder sales performance by inducing fear and nervousness during interactions, impeding relationship-building. ๐Ÿ”„ To counter negative programming, delete limiting beliefs and replace them with positive alternatives, such as changing "don't talk to strangers" to "talk to strangers," fostering new opportunities and experiences. Transforming for Sales Success ๐ŸŽญ Successful salespeople must "not be themselves" by shedding negative programming and becoming open to learning new conversation and relationship-building skills. ๐Ÿง  Having the right mindset is crucial for sales success, as without it, even extensive training will be ineffective due to inability to connect and communicate effectively. Understanding Limiting Advice โš–๏ธ "Grey programming" refers to well-intentioned but limiting advice that's never absolute, biased towards risk aversion, and can restrict potential and opportunities in sales and personal growth.
Time Investment in Sales Qualification ๐Ÿ•’ Qualifying a lead can consume up to 5 hours of time without guaranteeing a sale, emphasizing the critical need for efficient lead qualification in the sales process. ๐Ÿ—“๏ธ The initial conversation and appointment scheduling alone can take 45 minutes, while subsequent steps like on-site walkthroughs, proposal development, and reviews can add up to 300 minutes in total. Strategic Qualification Approach ๐ŸŽฏ Early qualification is crucial, with Victor Antonio recommending qualifying leads both during the initial phone conversation and again during the first on-site visit to minimize time wasted on unlikely prospects. Sales Process Breakdown ๐Ÿ“Š The sales process typically involves multiple steps, including initial conversation, appointment scheduling, on-site walkthrough, proposal development and review, contract signing, and follow-up emails, each potentially consuming significant time. Efficiency Through Understanding ๐Ÿ’ก Understanding the time estimates for each step in the qualification process enables sales professionals to identify promising leads more effectively and allocate resources efficiently.
Sales Process Optimization ๐Ÿ” Sales funnels, pipelines, and processes are interconnected tools that help teams visualize, track, and optimize the customer journey from awareness to conversion. ๐Ÿ“Š Analyzing key metrics like conversion rates, drop-off rates, and average deal size enables sales teams to make data-driven decisions and improve overall performance. Customer Journey Management ๐Ÿš€ The awareness stage is crucial for building brand recognition and generating leads through strategies like content marketing and social media engagement. ๐ŸŽฏ The conversion stage focuses on addressing objections, providing value propositions, and closing sales, marking the final step in the customer's journey. Team Efficiency ๐Ÿ“ˆ A well-defined sales process ensures consistency across the team, provides clear guidelines for new members, and helps maintain quality standards throughout the sales cycle.
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World changers World changers

definitely trying these ideas out

May 15th
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Dana Torres

thank you for this fresh approach to selling. I'm looking forward to hesr how you will use this new knowledge.

Feb 4th
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Periklis Anvar

Amazing info on cold calling! Thank you!

Nov 18th
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Edwin Walker

Hey Victor A, I work in residential B2C sales. One main objection/ blockage is , โ€œwe have to get multiple estimates โ€œ, we donโ€™t make โ€œrash Decisionsโ€. I use the funnel system to find the main objection but โ€œmultiple estimates has been a struggleโ€ to overcome. My company offers a premium service / installation , in general we are sometimes 2-3x more from average company. How would you handle that objection ? I would appreciate your help! Thanks for the great content!

Aug 10th
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MerandaMedia

Hi Mr. Victor, this is Sumith from joining your podcast from Qatar. These podcasts are the real deal, they are in bite size and spot on all the time. I really do enjoy your show and may God bless you!

Apr 16th
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Pedro Bertoluci

I am from the opinion when you need to catch customers attention and therefore gain his confidence start with a story and then go to the solution. While when you want to strengthen your position go straight to the point and then tell him/her the background. Regarding pricing, I like to start with the highest, although sometimes has to start from the lowest possible. thank you for sharing your knowledge

Mar 31st
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alchemist

awesome

Feb 3rd
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Nithin M

Procrastination: Postponing something. Very Informative and Brainstorming Podcast. Why people postone tasks to be done? What are the steps taken to avoid it? This is not only for Sales guys , every one need to hear this. I've heard it 3-4 times...

Oct 28th
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alchemist

๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿป๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿป๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿป๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿป๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿป

Sep 24th
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Rakesh Singh

you're right ๐Ÿ‘

Sep 3rd
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jatin shah

Dear Sir I am following your podcast since long and quite impressed with the stuff you are teaching I would like to request your advice in my product selling scenario. I am working as product manager for technical products i.e.gearbox. My issue here is, product is highly technical and very costly as per industry standard and user base, it has very niche market. please advice,how I shoukd strategize my selling approach to increase the sale of this product Thanks in advance Jatin Shah

May 1st
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Mirella Camejo

morenita. ya esta c,onectado

Jul 20th
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Nathan Cage

Good afternoon Victor, my name is Nathan, I have been in the service industry for over 20 years...Do you know how humble you have to be to be a Servant I mean a server. I just recently got a job as a telesales manger for a plumbing supply shop. I have never had an office job. I have listened to Why people buy. Your pod cast is amazing, very helpful I am on number 54. I listen to several a day your advice has helped me feel more comfortable on the phone. So thank you!! This is my reason for this post.

Nov 27th
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