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Cybersecurity guru Steve Gibson joins Leo Laporte every Tuesday. Steve and Leo break down the latest cybercrime and hacking stories, offering a deep understanding of what's happening and how to protect yourself and your business. Security Now is a must listen for security professionals every week.

Records live every Tuesday at 4:30pm Eastern / 1:30pm Pacific / 21:30 UTC.
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Steve Gibson and Leo Laporte discuss Microsoft's clarification about AI training data usage, a fascinating breakthrough in understanding autonomous vehicle vulnerabilities, and an urgent call for help from the Tor Network. The show culminates in an in-depth exploration of NASA's incredible Voyager 1 mission, which continues to communicate with Earth from nearly a light-day away despite increasing technical challenges. • Microsoft clarifies they are NOT using customer data from Office apps to train AI models • "Digital epileptic seizures" caused by flashing emergency vehicle lights can confuse automated driving systems, posing crash risks • Tor Network issues urgent call for volunteers to run new WebTunnel bridges to circumvent censorship in Russia • Zello asks its 140 million users to change passwords as a precautionary measure, hinting at a possible data breach • FTC opens broad antitrust investigation into Microsoft's business practices across software, cloud, cybersecurity, and AI • New Android scareware tactic simulates a seriously cracked and malfunctioning smartphone screen • Steve argues it's likely safe to leave Wireguard VPN ports open, but he prefers not to out of an abundance of caution • Research shows AI training on AI-generated content can lead to homogeneity and loss of diversity in outputs • Australia passes world-first law banning children under 16 from social media, with hefty fines for non-compliant platforms • NASA's Voyager 1 probe, nearly a light-day from Earth, resumes operations after a communications scare but faces mounting technical challenges as it nears the end of its life Show Notes - https://www.grc.com/sn/SN-1003-Notes.pdf Hosts: Steve Gibson and Leo Laporte Download or subscribe to Security Now at https://twit.tv/shows/security-now. Get episodes ad-free with Club TWiT at https://twit.tv/clubtwit You can submit a question to Security Now at the GRC Feedback Page. For 16kbps versions, transcripts, and notes (including fixes), visit Steve's site: grc.com, also the home of the best disk maintenance and recovery utility ever written Spinrite 6. Sponsors: Melissa.com/twit bigid.com/securitynow joindeleteme.com/twit promo code TWIT bitwarden.com/twit
What's the new "nearest neighbor" attack and how do you defend against it? Let's Encrypt just turned 10. What changes has it wrought? Now the Coast Guard is worried about Chinese built ship-to-shore cranes. Pakistan becomes the first country to block Bluesky. There's a new way to get Git repos "swatted" and removed. Who's to blame for Palo Alto Networks' serious new 0-day vulnerabilities? If you have any of these six D-Link VPN routers, unplug them immediately! It turns out that VPN apps are against Shariah Law. Who knew? The Return of Windows Recall. What are we learning now? How many of today's systems remain vulnerable to last year's most popular exploits? We share and respond to a bunch of terrific feedback from our listeners. What are Microsoft's "Connected Experience" and why might you choose to disconnect from them? Show Notes - https://www.grc.com/sn/SN-1002-Notes.pdf Hosts: Steve Gibson and Leo Laporte Download or subscribe to Security Now at https://twit.tv/shows/security-now. Get episodes ad-free with Club TWiT at https://twit.tv/clubtwit You can submit a question to Security Now at the GRC Feedback Page. For 16kbps versions, transcripts, and notes (including fixes), visit Steve's site: grc.com, also the home of the best disk maintenance and recovery utility ever written Spinrite 6. Sponsors: e-e.com/twit bitwarden.com/twit threatlocker.com for Security Now flashpoint.io
How Microsoft lured the US Government into a far deeper and expensive dependency upon its cybersecurity solutions. Gmail to offer native throwaway email aliases like Apple and Mozilla. Russia to ban several additional hosting companies and give its big Internet disconnect switch another test. Russia uses a diabolical Windows flaw to attack Ukrainians. The value of old Security Now episodes. TrueCrypt's successor. Using Cloudflare's Tunnel service for remote network access. How to make a local server appear to be on a remote public IP. How to share an 'impossible to type' password with someone. How to find obscure previous references in the Security Now podcast. What are the parameters for the expected and widely anticipated next generation Artificial General Intelligence (AGI)? What do those in the industry and academia expect? And is OpenAI's Sam Altman completely nuts for predicting it next year? Is it just a stock ploy? Show Notes - https://www.grc.com/sn/SN-1001-Notes.pdf Hosts: Steve Gibson and Leo Laporte Download or subscribe to Security Now at https://twit.tv/shows/security-now. Get episodes ad-free with Club TWiT at https://twit.tv/clubtwit You can submit a question to Security Now at the GRC Feedback Page. For 16kbps versions, transcripts, and notes (including fixes), visit Steve's site: grc.com, also the home of the best disk maintenance and recovery utility ever written Spinrite 6. Sponsors: bigid.com/securitynow joindeleteme.com/twit promo code TWIT 1password.com/securitynow canary.tools/twit - use code: TWIT
Bitwarden reaffirms it's commitment to open source. The rights of German security researchers are clarified. Australia to impose age limits on social media. Free Windows Server 2025 anyone? UAC wasn't getting in the way enough, so they're fixing that. "From Russia with fines" -- obey or else. South Korea fines Meta over serious user privacy violations. Synology's (very) critical zero-click RCE flaw. Malicious Python packages invoked by typos. Google to enforce full MFA for all cloud service users. Mozilla Foundation lays off 30%? Is Firefox safe? Some feedback from Dave's Garage (https://grc.sc/dave) GRC email CTL: AI Debugging CTL: Chat GPT vs YouTube Shorts CTL: Update on the "Train Tracks" Pic of the Week CTL: DNS Benchmark compatibility CTL: The accuracy of AI CTL: Exposing NAS to the Internet CTL: Congrats on 1000! Show Notes - https://www.grc.com/sn/SN-1000-Notes.pdf Hosts: Steve Gibson and Leo Laporte Download or subscribe to this show at https://twit.tv/shows/security-now. Get episodes ad-free with Club TWiT at https://twit.tv/clubtwit You can submit a question to Security Now at the GRC Feedback Page. For 16kbps versions, transcripts, and notes (including fixes), visit Steve's site: grc.com, also the home of the best disk maintenance and recovery utility ever written Spinrite 6. Sponsors: bitwarden.com/twit threatlocker.com for Security Now flashpoint.io lookout.com
Google's record-breaking fine by Russia. (How many 0's is that?) RT's editor-in-chief admits that their TV hosts are AI-generated. Windows 10 security updates set to end next October... or are they? When a good Chrome extension goes bad. Windows .RDP launch config files. What could possibly go wrong? Firefox 132 just received some new features. Chinese security cameras being removed from the UK. I know YOU wouldn't fall for this social engineering attack. What's GRC's next semi-commercial product going to be? And what's the prospect for AI being used to analyze code to eliminate security vulnerabilities? Show Notes - https://www.grc.com/sn/SN-999-Notes.pdf Hosts: Steve Gibson and Leo Laporte Download or subscribe to this show at https://twit.tv/shows/security-now. Get episodes ad-free with Club TWiT at https://twit.tv/clubtwit You can submit a question to Security Now at the GRC Feedback Page. For 16kbps versions, transcripts, and notes (including fixes), visit Steve's site: grc.com, also the home of the best disk maintenance and recovery utility ever written Spinrite 6. Sponsors: joindeleteme.com/twit promo code TWIT 1password.com/securitynow bigid.com/securitynow Melissa.com/twit
Apple proposes 45-day maximum certificate life. SEC fines four companies for downplaying their SolarWinds attack severity. Google adds 5 new features to Messenger including inappropriate content. Does AI-driven local device-side filtering resolve the encryption dilemma forever? The very nice looking "Session" messenger leaves Australia for Switzerland. Another quick look at the question of the EU's software liability moves. Fake North Korean employees WERE found to install backdoor malware. How to speed up an SSD without using SpinRite. Using ChatGPT to review and suggest improvements in code. And Internet governance has been trying to move the Internet to IPv6 for the past 25 years, but the Internet just doesn't want to go. Why not? And will it ever? Show Notes - https://www.grc.com/sn/SN-998-Notes.pdf Hosts: Steve Gibson and Leo Laporte Download or subscribe to this show at https://twit.tv/shows/security-now. Get episodes ad-free with Club TWiT at https://twit.tv/clubtwit You can submit a question to Security Now at the GRC Feedback Page. For 16kbps versions, transcripts, and notes (including fixes), visit Steve's site: grc.com, also the home of the best disk maintenance and recovery utility ever written Spinrite 6. Sponsors: canary.tools/twit - use code: TWIT e-e.com/twit threatlocker.com for Security Now 1password.com/securitynow
Did Chinese researchers really break RSA encryption? What did they do? What next-level terror extortion is being powered by the NPD breach data? The EU to hold software companies liable for software security? Microsoft lost weeks of security logs. How hard did the try to fix the problem? The Chinese drone company DJI has sued the DoJ over its ban on DJI's drones. The DoJ wishes to acquire "DeepFake" technology to create fake people. Microsoft has bots pretending to fall for phishing campaigns, then leading the bad guys to their honeypots. It's diabolical and brilliant. A bit of BIMI logo follow-up, then... A look at the operation of the FIDO Alliance's forthcoming Credential Exchange Protocol which promises to create passkey collection portability Show Notes - https://www.grc.com/sn/SN-997-Notes.pdf Hosts: Steve Gibson and Leo Laporte Download or subscribe to this show at https://twit.tv/shows/security-now. Get episodes ad-free with Club TWiT at https://twit.tv/clubtwit You can submit a question to Security Now at the GRC Feedback Page. For 16kbps versions, transcripts, and notes (including fixes), visit Steve's site: grc.com, also the home of the best disk maintenance and recovery utility ever written Spinrite 6. Sponsors: threatlocker.com for Security Now flashpoint.io lookout.com bitwarden.com/twit
uBlock Origin to the rescue National Public Data files for bankruptcy Will the .IO top level domain be disappearing? Patch Tuesday Firefox under attack Miscellany Sci-Fi The Sequence uBlock Origin Eero Routers Pep Link Router BIMI (up Scotty) Show Notes - https://www.grc.com/sn/SN-996-Notes.pdf Hosts: Steve Gibson and Leo Laporte Download or subscribe to this show at https://twit.tv/shows/security-now. Get episodes ad-free with Club TWiT at https://twit.tv/clubtwit You can submit a question to Security Now at the GRC Feedback Page. For 16kbps versions, transcripts, and notes (including fixes), visit Steve's site: grc.com, also the home of the best disk maintenance and recovery utility ever written Spinrite 6. Sponsors: 1password.com/securitynow threatlocker.com for Security Now joindeleteme.com/twit promo code TWIT vanta.com/SECURITYNOW
Facebook's parent Meta not hashing passwords A New, forthcoming PayPal default opts their users into merchant data sharing DDoS breaks another record Speaking of these ASUS routers Do you know who you're hiring? Vitamin D The CUPS vulnerablility Routers for normal people uBlock Origin & Manifest V3 Show Notes: https://www.grc.com/sn/SN-995-Notes.pdf Hosts: Steve Gibson and Leo Laporte Download or subscribe to this show at https://twit.tv/shows/security-now. Get episodes ad-free with Club TWiT at https://twit.tv/clubtwit You can submit a question to Security Now at the GRC Feedback Page. For 16kbps versions, transcripts, and notes (including fixes), visit Steve's site: grc.com, also the home of the best disk maintenance and recovery utility ever written Spinrite 6. Sponsors: bitwarden.com/twit Melissa.com/twit threatlocker.com for Security Now flashpoint.io
The Linux remote code execution flaw The CRUCIAL importance of Domain Control Security Roskomnadzor strikes a discordant note VLC gets a security update Tor and Tails Merge Telegram changes its long-standing "zero cooperation" policy Enshittification Bobiverse book 5 Windows 10 notifications Experian woes Nuevomailer SpinRite Peter F. Hamilton Recall's Re-Rollout Show Notes - https://www.grc.com/sn/SN-994-Notes.pdf Hosts: Steve Gibson and Leo Laporte Download or subscribe to this show at https://twit.tv/shows/security-now. Get episodes ad-free with Club TWiT at https://twit.tv/clubtwit You can submit a question to Security Now at the GRC Feedback Page. For 16kbps versions, transcripts, and notes (including fixes), visit Steve's site: grc.com, also the home of the best disk maintenance and recovery utility ever written Spinrite 6. Sponsors: vanta.com/SECURITYNOW bitwarden.com/twit joindeleteme.com/twit promo code TWIT threatlocker.com for Security Now
The case of the exploding pagers and walkie-talkies "Ford seeks patent for tech that listens to driver conversations to serve ads" Another large chunk of personal data exposed Passkeys takes a big step forward: Now supported by Chrome A nascent 9.9 Linux Unauthenticated RCE? Freezing Credit Credit Bureaus Drobo 5N SN email labeled as spam Public Wi-fi saftey SN for Certs Windows Defender Kaspersky exits the U.S. Show Notes - https://www.grc.com/sn/SN-993-Notes.pdf Hosts: Steve Gibson and Leo Laporte Download or subscribe to this show at https://twit.tv/shows/security-now. Get episodes ad-free with Club TWiT at https://twit.tv/clubtwit You can submit a question to Security Now at the GRC Feedback Page. For 16kbps versions, transcripts, and notes (including fixes), visit Steve's site: grc.com, also the home of the best disk maintenance and recovery utility ever written Spinrite 6. Sponsors: INFO.ACILEARNING.COM/TWIT code SN100 canary.tools/twit - use code: TWIT bigid.com/securitynow e-e.com/twit
Windows Endpoint Security Ecosystem Summit Aging storage media does NOT last forever How Navy chiefs conspired to get themselves illegal warship Wi-Fi adam:ONE named the #1 best Secure Access Service Edge (SASE) solution AI Talk Password Manager Injection Attacks Show Notes - https://www.grc.com/sn/SN-992-Notes.pdf Hosts: Steve Gibson and Mikah Sargent Download or subscribe to this show at https://twit.tv/shows/security-now. Get episodes ad-free with Club TWiT at https://twit.tv/clubtwit You can submit a question to Security Now at the GRC Feedback Page. For 16kbps versions, transcripts, and notes (including fixes), visit Steve's site: grc.com, also the home of the best disk maintenance and recovery utility ever written Spinrite 6. Sponsors: threatlocker.com for Security Now joindeleteme.com/twit promo code TWIT 1password.com/securitynow vanta.com/SECURITYNOW
Offer to uninstall Recall was a bug, not a feature YubiKeys can be cloned Miscellany Is WhatsApp secure? Telegram vs Signal French elevators Freezing your credit The Quiet Canine Unix time Bobiverse book 5 Exodus: The Achemedes Engine Watching SpinRite RAMBO Show Notes - https://www.grc.com/sn/SN-991-Notes.pdf Hosts: Steve Gibson and Mikah Sargent Download or subscribe to this show at https://twit.tv/shows/security-now. Get episodes ad-free with Club TWiT at https://twit.tv/clubtwit You can submit a question to Security Now at the GRC Feedback Page. For 16kbps versions, transcripts, and notes (including fixes), visit Steve's site: grc.com, also the home of the best disk maintenance and recovery utility ever written Spinrite 6. Sponsors: flashpoint.io bigid.com/securitynow Melissa.com/twit bitwarden.com/twit
Telegram puts End-to-End Privacy in the Crosshairs Free security logging is good for everyone CrowdStrike hemorrhaging customers Microsoft to meet privately with EDR (Endpoint Detection & Response) vendors Yelp's Unhappy with Google Telegram as the hotbed for DDoSass – DDoS as a Service Chrome grows more difficult to exploit Cox Media Group's "Active Listening" has apparently not ended Cascading Bloom Filter follow-up Closing the Loop Is Telegram an encrypted app? Show Notes - https://www.grc.com/sn/SN-990-Notes.pdf Hosts: Steve Gibson and Leo Laporte Download or subscribe to this show at https://twit.tv/shows/security-now. Get episodes ad-free with Club TWiT at https://twit.tv/clubtwit You can submit a question to Security Now at the GRC Feedback Page. For 16kbps versions, transcripts, and notes (including fixes), visit Steve's site: grc.com, also the home of the best disk maintenance and recovery utility ever written Spinrite 6. Sponsors: bigid.com/securitynow threatlocker.com for Security Now vanta.com/SECURITYNOW joindeleteme.com/twit promo code TWIT
CrowdStrike Exec's "Most Epic Fail" Award Hardware backdoors discovered in Chinese-made key cards Counterfeit CISCO networking gear SpinRite Errata NPD breach updates from listeners Looking back at old SN episodes Cascading Bloom Filters Show Notes - https://www.grc.com/sn/SN-989-Notes.pdf Hosts: Steve Gibson and Leo Laporte Download or subscribe to this show at https://twit.tv/shows/security-now. Get episodes ad-free with Club TWiT at https://twit.tv/clubtwit You can submit a question to Security Now at the GRC Feedback Page. For 16kbps versions, transcripts, and notes (including fixes), visit Steve's site: grc.com, also the home of the best disk maintenance and recovery utility ever written Spinrite 6. Sponsors: canary.tools/twit - use code: TWIT 1password.com/securitynow e-e.com/twit INFO.ACILEARNING.COM/TWIT code SN100
Revocation Update GRC's next experiment Patch Tuesday "The Famous Computer Café" IsBootSecure GRC Email Working through WiFi Firewalls Transferring DNS OCSP attestation vs. TLS expiration Platform key expiration National Public Data Show Notes - https://www.grc.com/sn/SN-988-Notes.pdf Hosts: Steve Gibson and Leo Laporte Download or subscribe to this show at https://twit.tv/shows/security-now. Get episodes ad-free with Club TWiT at https://twit.tv/clubtwit You can submit a question to Security Now at the GRC Feedback Page. For 16kbps versions, transcripts, and notes (including fixes), visit Steve's site: grc.com, also the home of the best disk maintenance and recovery utility ever written Spinrite 6. Sponsors: bitwarden.com/twit vanta.com/SECURITYNOW threatlocker.com for Security Now joindeleteme.com/twit promo code TWIT
Sitting Ducks DNS attack A Bad RCE in another Microsoft server SinkClose The CLFS.SYS BSoD IsBootSecure Rethinking Revocation Show Notes - https://www.grc.com/sn/SN-987-Notes.pdf Hosts: Steve Gibson and Leo Laporte Download or subscribe to this show at https://twit.tv/shows/security-now. Get episodes ad-free with Club TWiT at https://twit.tv/clubtwit You can submit a question to Security Now at the GRC Feedback Page. For 16kbps versions, transcripts, and notes (including fixes), visit Steve's site: grc.com, also the home of the best disk maintenance and recovery utility ever written Spinrite 6. Sponsors: joindeleteme.com/twit promo code TWIT bigid.com/securitynow vanta.com/SECURITYNOW 1password.com/securitynow
Platform Key Disclosure Firefox's 3rd-party Cookie mess The W3C Finally Weighs-in CrowdStrike Damages. GRC's Email How Revoking! Show Notes - https://www.grc.com/sn/SN-986-Notes.pdf Hosts: Steve Gibson and Leo Laporte Download or subscribe to this show at https://twit.tv/shows/security-now. Get episodes ad-free with Club TWiT at https://twit.tv/clubtwit You can submit a question to Security Now at the GRC Feedback Page. For 16kbps versions, transcripts, and notes (including fixes), visit Steve's site: grc.com, also the home of the best disk maintenance and recovery utility ever written Spinrite 6. Sponsors: threatlocker.com for Security Now joindeleteme.com/twit promo code TWIT bigid.com/securitynow vanta.com/SECURITYNOW
Crowdstrike post-mortem PiDP-11 What Crowdstrike is fixing Marcus Hutchins on who is to blame Entrust's Updated Info 3rd-Party Cookie Surprise Security training firm mistakenly hires a North Korean attacker Google and 3rd party cookies Google's influence The auto industry and data brokers DNS Benchmark on Mac Platform Key Disclosure Show Notes - https://www.grc.com/sn/SN-985-Notes.pdf Hosts: Steve Gibson and Leo Laporte Download or subscribe to this show at https://twit.tv/shows/security-now. Get episodes ad-free with Club TWiT at https://twit.tv/clubtwit You can submit a question to Security Now at the GRC Feedback Page. For 16kbps versions, transcripts, and notes (including fixes), visit Steve's site: grc.com, also the home of the best disk maintenance and recovery utility ever written Spinrite 6. Sponsors: lookout.com GO.ACILEARNING.COM/TWIT code SN100 panoptica.app bitwarden.com/twit
Cellebrite unlocks Trump's would-be assassin's phone. Cisco reported on a CVSS of 10.0 Entrust drops the other shoe Google gives up on removing 3rd-party cookies Miscellany Snowflake and data warehouse applications CDK auto dealership outage Polyfill.io and resource hashes MITM Blocking Copilot Blocking incoming connections via IP CrowdStruck Show Notes - https://www.grc.com/sn/SN-984-Notes.pdf Hosts: Steve Gibson and Leo Laporte Download or subscribe to this show at https://twit.tv/shows/security-now. Get episodes ad-free with Club TWiT at https://twit.tv/clubtwit You can submit a question to Security Now at the GRC Feedback Page. For 16kbps versions, transcripts, and notes (including fixes), visit Steve's site: grc.com, also the home of the best disk maintenance and recovery utility ever written Spinrite 6. Sponsors: panoptica.app canary.tools/twit - use code: TWIT vanta.com/SECURITYNOW bigid.com/securitynow
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Denial Brown

Thank you for this podcast, it was useful to know. It seems to me that this messenger is very promising and has a high audience activity. I read the post about telegram eds in the article https://propellerads.com/blog/adv-telegram-ads/ to find out more information about it

Nov 25th
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Esher (T3k 'n' 5tuff)

Ok, ok, I get it Leo. You fixed it. I'll be back in the club soon. (Email server issues).

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Apr 27th
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Esher (T3k 'n' 5tuff)

I don't really like Micah much to begin with but his take on the web thing wow yikes. also Steve I'm very disappointed in you man. you're basically throwing your hands up and saying well to hell with it let the bad guys win. you're basically saying that we shouldn't even try. the internet is not free it's cost is our sovereignty our freedom and our future. if it continues the direction it's going it's going to do more damage to humanity than it will ever help. This is the worst take ever.

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Oliver Bleckmann

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Jun 1st
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Maryam Kamali

I really love listening to your podcasts and I love how enthusiastic Steve gets over some news and his voice is really cute 😍 I just wish you guys would give a short definitions of some acronyms or techniques you're talking about, so I won't need to pause and Google, specially when the room is dark 😀

Jan 14th
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Neal Shaver

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Aug 18th
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Ron King

Listen to this podcast, if you want to be entertained and updated on important Cybersecurity news

Aug 5th
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David Kraft

I love you Steve but PISS OFF on the vaccine proof. not happening. you didn't do voting did you ?

Jun 2nd
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Chris Abele

Seagate label: Koolhovenlaan is a street in the city of Tilburg, the Netherlands

Oct 2nd
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David Kraft

I'm offended by the ignorance displayed in the thumbnail with the masq. now I'm wondering how ignorant the rest of the information is installing a petry dish in your airway is irresponsible and dangerous.

Sep 15th
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Chris Abele

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May 14th
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Tracking is ridiculous and turning off your phone or factory resetting it defeats efforts which are not needed. Deaths while under the treatment of respirators should not be counted as this virus steals iron from the blood, it does not fill your lungs with fluids I am reading from doctors, which is necessary to use a ventilator! They give you paralyzing drugs and if your lungs are dry that machine has a 50% it will kill you, and your body will immediately cremated, nothing for trial lawyers to exhume? Epidemiological experts say this is just another flu, do not let these political hacks kill you as they ignore warnings mitigation efforts prolong the virus? That is why the bat lady from China on day one said try malaria drugs, they open a channel into the virus so zinc or something else can bind instead of oxygen robbing iron stolen from your body? Would you help politicians round up people to put them in killing machines they could blame on a virus? I don't think so. You delay respi

Apr 15th
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Sahil Bisht

stop taking long breakkkkkk

Dec 24th
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Richard Smith

I used to enjoy this show. Now it's become the "I like to insert my politics into everything - Leo" show. Stick to the core subject! Even Steve sounds uncomfortable.

Nov 9th
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