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Journalists from The Atlantic document the first 15 months of the coronavirus pandemic through regular phone calls. Listen in as Dr. Jim Hamblin, the producer Katherine Wells, and the comedian and the writer Maeve Higgins ask journalists, experts, and friends about the news and science behind the pandemic, get some advice, and learn how to apply it. 

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On The Review, The Atlantic's writers and guests discuss how we entertain ourselves and how that shapes the way we understand the world. Please subscribe and enjoy! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Hello Social Distance listeners! We'd like to introduce you to a new show. In this series, host Arthur Brooks digs into research and offers tools to help you live more joyfully. Join us for deep conversations with psychologists, experts, and friends of The Atlantic's Chief Happiness Correspondent. For more info, visit www.theatlantic.com/happy, or search for How to Build a Happy Life on your podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Is It Over?

Is It Over?

2021-06-1030:562

Though the pandemic continues around the world, the end appears in sight in the United States. At the same time, this episode will mark the last one for Social Distance. Jim, Maeve, and returning host Katherine Wells gather to say goodbye to the show, listen to voicemails from past expert guests, and reflect on what we’ve learned these last fifteen months. Support all of The Atlantic’s journalism by becoming a subscriber at theatlantic.com/supportus. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
While case counts in the U.S. continue to drop, there are still headlines about variants and "breakthrough" infections that might worry you. Fortunately, The Atlantic staff writer Katherine Wu explains to James Hamblin and Maeve Higgins why these shouldn't alarm us just yet. And staff writer Sarah Zhang drops in to help figure out how to keep pandemic puppies from being too anxious as people return to pre-pandemic routines. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
It's Time to Tango

It's Time to Tango

2021-05-2633:312

Now that Jim's "Quite Possibly Wonderful Summer" is coming to fruition, a lot of listeners have been considering the present and future. Can you go to a tango festival? What should parents be watching for? And why, exactly, is the Surgeon General wearing that uniform? Hit play for answers and a short history lesson from historian and listener Ruth Fairbanks. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
We've all been suffering during the COVID-19 pandemic in one way or another, and as the U.S. starts to emerge, we'll need to reckon with that. The Atlantic's Ed Yong discusses his piece on pandemic trauma, how to think about it, and what he's learned in talking to psychiatrists and other experts. We want to hear from you! Email your questions or concerns to socialdistance@theatlantic.com or leave a voicemail at 202-642-6487. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
When the Biden administration announced support for waiving COVID vaccine patents last week, it was met with praise, relief, skepticism, and alarm among different groups—but surprise all around. Pharmaceutical giants have long fought efforts to have their intellectual property released to meet international needs. And they’ve backed it up with immense political muscle. Could this time be different? Would it disincentivize future research, as critics like Bill Gates claim? And how much (and how quickly) could it help? To understand the issue, Jim and Maeve are joined by Julie Rovner, the Chief Washington Correspondent for Kaiser Health News and host of the podcast “What The Health?” Support this show and all of The Atlantic’s journalism by becoming a subscriber at theatlantic.com/supportus. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Writer F.T. Kola returns to recount her experience with long COVID. What explains its strange constellation of symptoms? Will it ever go away? And why does vaccination seem to help? F.T., Jim, and Maeve are joined by Dr. Akiko Iwasaki, an immunologist investigating long COVID at her Yale lab. She explains what we know about the condition — and how two theories about its root cause mean the difference between a cure and no clear end in sight. Jim's piece on herd immunity: How Herd Immunity Happens Support this show and all of The Atlantic’s journalism by becoming a subscriber at theatlantic.com/supportus. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
While wealthier countries reopen, India and the rest of the world face a terrifying new peak in the pandemic. How did it come to this? What can be done? And with new variants and limited supplies, how does the global vaccine strategy need to change to prevent more coronavirus spikes? Staff writer Yasmeen Serhan joins Jim and Maeve to explain. Jim’s piece:  One Vaccine to Rule Them All Yasmeen’s piece: India's COVID-19 Crisis Is the World's Crisis Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
The pandemic has led to “hygiene theater,” which gives a false sense of security. As vaccination continues, people should feel able to abandon many precautions—while continuing to focus on what really matters. How do we thread the needle between being too cautious and too cavalier? Staff writer Derek Thompson joins to help us understand public messaging.  Support this show and all of The Atlantic’s journalism by becoming a subscriber at theatlantic.com/supportus. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Should the ‘pause’ in Johnson & Johnson vaccine worry us? Also, Jim got his first shot! But with so many people experiencing strong reactions to their second doses, what should he — and maybe you — expect?  Atlantic staff writer Katherine Wu joins to explain (and stays to talk cicadas!) Support this show and all of The Atlantic’s journalism by becoming a subscriber at theatlantic.com/supportus. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Children may have been largely spared the worst of COVID-19, but many kids have still gotten seriously ill and died. Despite promising news this week, most likely won’t have access to the vaccines for months. So as adults get vaccinated, how high are the stakes for kids? And how high are the stakes for everyone waiting on herd immunity? Jim and Maeve ask Dr. Jill Foster, a professor and pediatric-infectious-disease specialist at the University of Minnesota Medical School. Also, with a pediatrician on the show, they take the opportunity to ask a few listener questions from parents. Support this show and all of The Atlantic’s journalism by becoming a subscriber at theatlantic.com/supportus. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Vaccine passports are almost certainly in our near future. But what are they exactly? And with concerns about vaccine equity now complicated by partisan fearmongering, how should they be implemented? Art Caplan, a bioethicist with NYU’s Grossman School of Medicine who’s spent years thinking about vaccine ethics, joins Jim and Maeve to explain. Support this show and all of The Atlantic’s journalism by becoming a subscriber at theatlantic.com/supportus. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
The recent shootings in Atlanta highlighted a surge of anti-Asian violence in the United States throughout the pandemic. Disease stigma and racism have together shaped pandemic response and policy for centuries. And so to better understand this history, Jim and Maeve speak with Alexandre White, a sociologist and medical historian at Johns Hopkins University. He shares his views on how a legacy of prejudice tied to disease should lead us to reexamine how we respond when outbreaks occur. Support this show and all of The Atlantic’s journalism by becoming a subscriber at theatlantic.com/supportus. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Jim and Maeve answer listener vaccine questions and are joined by Alexis Madrigal, who explains the apparent plateau in cases (and why he’s begun to worry despite his longer-term optimism). With the COVID Tracking Project winding down, Madrigal also offers insight about where to get the best data. Support this show and all of The Atlantic’s journalism by becoming a subscriber at theatlantic.com/supportus. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
It’s Been A Year

It’s Been A Year

2021-03-1143:261

Jim and Katherine look back on a year of this pandemic podcast to what we’ve learned, what we haven’t, and what we can look forward to. (Also, Jim talks with Anthony Fauci!) Support this show and all of The Atlantic’s journalism by becoming a subscriber at theatlantic.com/supportus. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
With three vaccines now approved and news that the U.S. will have enough shots for every adult by the end of May, it feels like the country is turning a corner. But, even after getting vaccinated, Americans still have to mask and distance. Why is that? Can you still spread it? And with lots of efficacy numbers out there, is one vaccine ‘better’ than another? James Hamblin and Maeve Higgins ask virologist Angela Rasmussen. Support this show and all of The Atlantic’s journalism by becoming a subscriber at theatlantic.com/supportus. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Listeners with mild COVID-19 cases call with their questions. Jim explains why he thinks the summer could be wonderful. And Maeve shares nun news from Ireland. Support this show and all of The Atlantic’s journalism by becoming a subscriber at theatlantic.com/supportus. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Nearly a year ago, The Atlantic staff writer Helen Lewis predicted the pandemic would be “a disaster for feminism” and far too many of her predictions have proven true. With women leaving the workforce at unprecedented rates, why has the pandemic’s burden fallen so much harder on them? And what can we, as a society, do about it? Also: Jim and Maeve answer listener questions about the virus (and discuss chickens). Please fill out our listener survey! theatlantic.com/socialdistancesurvey Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
A Forever Pandemic

A Forever Pandemic

2021-02-1238:412

Vaccines are a public good. And if we don’t make a lot more of them, COVID-19 may never really go away.  Gregg Gonsalves, an epidemiology professor at Yale’s School of Public Health who joined the show in May to talk about his career as an AIDS activist, explains to Jim and Maeve how our moral failure to help vaccinate the rest of the world may come back to haunt us — and what big steps we’d need to take to prevent that. Please fill out our listener survey at theatlantic.com/socialdistancesurvey. It helps us understand who we’re making this show for and how we can keep improving it. (And it helps us to make new shows that suit what you like!) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Comments (7)

Fiery&Fitz

One of the best explanations of the new mutation of COVID-19 that I have heard so far. Knowledge puts my mind at ease, and after listening to this episode I felt much more informed and much less anxious. Thank you.

Jan 18th
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Yasmine C

The county next to mine has a huge outbreak. The highest in the state. And they refuse to close down or delay reopening. So no, neighbor, I won't merge with you! Stay in your own fn county.

Jun 27th
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Carla Bolton

I LOL when I heard you describe the Imagine song as "trash". I'm absolutely stoked the celebrity ship is sinking 🙌🏻 🛳️

Apr 25th
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Mark Powelson

Hmm, six clinical trials are underway across the globe, verdict isnt really in. Front line MDs often make clinical decisions w imperfect data. The fact that chloroquine is 1) based on an 'old' drug is utterly irrelevant (aspirin is ancient; 2) 'mechanism is unknown' also totally irrelevant to effectiveness of to even an FDA approval as surely you both know. Vitamins C and D also being investigated as many antivirals. But practitioners are well acquainted w counterindications and dosage issues of chloroquine and so apparently hundreds of docs have used this relatively safe therapeutic around the world following published reports from China of possible effectiveness in symptomatic relief. Clinical medicine cannot be essarily wait for double-blind controlled studies in a deadly global pandemic, again as you surely know but failed to note. Let's tell the plain truth in a crisis regardless of the obnoxiousness of occupant 1600 Penn Ave, ok?

Apr 10th
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Dre

This host is terrible and has the worst voice. Not every white journalist should make a podcast. Blah

Apr 5th
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Lee

I really love the Atlantic and had high expectations for this podcast. The woman seems totally unprepared and has clearly done no prep work or reading prior to these casts. She asks questions of the guy as if he’s her only source of info. She contributes nothing as the guy even calls her out on in a later cast. Really disappointing from such an esteemed magazine. Listeners would be wise to spend their time catching up on the pandemic with a different cast.

Mar 29th
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