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Team Never Quit

Author: Marcus Luttrell

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Each week join Retired Navy SEAL and Lone Survivor Marcus Luttrell, Melanie Luttrell, and Producer Hunter Juneau as they’ll take you into the "briefing room" to chat with incredible guests who share their greatest never quit stories. This humorous, heartfelt, and entertaining podcast is changing lives and has become a beacon of hope and resilience to those who are facing the impossible. One of the best ways we can support our community is to share their stories so that we might inspire others to Never Quit.
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This week’s Team Never Quit guest, Shilo Harris, has an amazing story to tell.  He speaks with Marcus about the details of his second deployment with the U.S Army’s 10th Mountain Division near Baghdad. Shilo’s armored vehicle was struck by an IED, which killed three of his fellow soldiers, injured the driver, and burned a third of his body, causing the loss of his ears, the tip of his nose and three fingers. The explosion also fractured his left collarbone and C-7 vertebrae. As a result, he spent nearly three years recovering and undergoing intensive physical therapy at the burn unit of Brook Army Medical Center in San Antonio, TX. While there, he was the first soldier to participate in regenerative stem-cell research to regrow his fingers, and later received prosthetic ears, and he has a hilarious story to share about them. Today, Shilo is a motivational speaker, raising awareness for PTSD and serving as an inspiration to fellow soldiers. “Everything in life is a gift. Sometimes it may not be the gift you want, but you realize that your challenges are a new beginning.” In this episode you will hear: • I’ve been extremely blessed. (17:53) • Me being a burn guy, I have a hard time regulating my body temperature, because the scar tissue acts like wearing a jacket all the time. It just doesn’t breathe. (18:50) • [While shopping for a hat, the girl] like a good salesperson, figured she could just size me up. She set that hat on me and popped it down. When she did, both my ears popped off, and hit the floor, bouncing around. (20:06) • I was in a van one day, and there were several wounded warriors, and everybody was missing something. One of the guys looked around and said “Damn, all of us together make like one whole man, maybe two.” (24:47) • My dad, being a veteran, we spent a lot of time at the American Legion. The American Legion out there was kind of like a bar. (25:52) • I knew what I wanted. I wanted combat arms. (33:01) • [In Bagdad] every day, there was an IED that went off in our area somewhere. (39:30) • I could see that my face was charred black, my hair was gone, my ears were gone, my nose was gone, I had blood running out of everything, and I started panicking. (50:29) • I was thinking: “I better get a day off for this.” (51:02) • I spent 48 days in a medically induced coma. (52:51) • [I had given up] and my dad said, “Are you done, soldier?” And it just washed over me, thinking holy crap, I’m a quitter before I even tried to start the fight. Where did my pride go? (55:24) • When he walked out of the room, he [my dad] literally just looked at me and said “Then get your ass up and start doing the work.” And I did. (59:59) • I was actually one of the first individuals to attempt regenerative growth. (66:00) • Faith, regardless of what it is, can get you through your worst days, your darkest moments. (75:17)
In this week’s Team Never Quit Podcast, Marcus gathers up with the legendary Billy "Soupbone" Shelton, of Willis, Texas, an Army Special Forces veteran who, for over 3 decades, has been providing intense physical and mental training for young men, producing Navy SEALS, Army Rangers and other military Special Forces soldiers. Soupbone’s approach is brutal, physically challenging and very successful.  He prepares fighting men for the harsh realities of combat. One of Soupbone’s gems is this podcasts host, Marcus Luttrell, a Navy SEAL awarded the Navy Cross and author of the bestselling book, "Lone Survivor". Billy Shelton does it because He wants to see his “sons” come home alive. (Also joining Marcus and Billy are Morgan Luttrell, Tommy & David Thornberry, who trained with Billy Shelton.)   In this episode you will hear: • Melanie: In the 13 years that we’ve been together we get asked more about you than anybody else. (5:21) • Billy: When I’d pull up and go in the front door [of the gym] they’d run out the back door. (13:07) • Tommy: The new guy’s rite of passage was that they had a harder workout because he [Billy] wanted to put the screws to ‘em to make sure they got it. (25:54) • Tommy: It’s not that we were born that way, it’s that we were made that way. (29:31) • Tommy: Billy looked out his window and this kid [after his workout] was hunched over in his car. Billy asked, “Are you ok?” The kid answered: I feel great. I just can’t lift my arms to drive. (31:02) • Morgan: No matter what shape you were in when you showed up, you’d eventually get us there. • Marcus: You didn’t wanna bring anybody, but if you did, you knew they were gonna get it. (32:55) • Morgan: If one of your buddies came down and they were struggling, it always put you in a position that you had to help them. (33:08) • Morgan: Like in the military, if there’s a weak link, you were forced to get down there and get ‘em. (33:18) • Marcus: To anyone who’s never seen a human being catapult over a wheelbarrow [full of rocks] while running… (40:58] • Billy: I don’t look at em like a Marine or Navy SEAL or a hunter, they’re my kids. I love ‘em. (44:50) • Melanie: No matter what you put Marcus or anyone through, they just wouldn’t quit. (53:09) • Billy: You CANNOT quit. (53:14) • Tommy: If there’s something wrong, you know it. There’s help out there for you. (65:27) • Tommy: I walked in there and there was 8 people. I said “what’s the party for?” They said “sir, we’d like you to have a seat.” I’m like “why? Did you guys find a tumor or something? And they’re like “Oooh” (66:14) • Tommy: Iron therapy is the way I get through stuff. (67:30) • Tommy: One of the docs that was part of the surgical team had Covid, with my skull open. (68:55) • Tommy: We don’t stop – ever. (70:32) • Tommy: Time to get back in the fight. (72:57)
In this week’s Team Never Quit Podcast, Marcus brings to the table Special Forces Officer Bryan Ray, who has both a lengthy, positive military career as well as a “dark side” military experience that shook him to his core. Bryan & Marcus take a deep dive into Bryan’s experiences which include serving in the war in Afghanistan and running the Mountain Warfare School in Colorado. It took a friend’s similar mental struggles and professional help to finally get past the emotional impact of his horrific experience. His healing journey includes working with a health and wellness company – Health Via Modern Nutrition (HVMN) – who developed a ketone supplement, Keytone IQ, which is proven to improve cognitive and physical performance to soldiers. Bryan brings hope to veterans who have kept their mental struggles to themselves, and reveals the benefits of getting help without embarrassment or shame.   In this episode you will hear: • One of the most rewarding parts of war is seeing the culture of the people who live there. • People have it a lot harder than we do in this country. • Even in places torn by war, you can still be happy with what minimal things you have. • I’m finding myself driving around in a Toyota Corolla - man jammies on, with a freaking gun and a backpack, hoping I don’t get killed by a U.S. Army guy. • [War] is like taking an Oxford grad, and taking him to the deepest swamp in Louisiana and having a conversation. That was what my formal Arabic training was like. • I’ve now been to two combat zones where our President is on TV saying we have now stopped and all combat troops are going home - right before we go out to do a hit. • Have I seen an MRack Turbo turned into a jet for a hot tub? Yes, I have. • Mountain shit is stressful. • [With Keytone IQ] You can dual fuel now. You can take the most efficient fuel which is ketones and you can also have carbs on board for when you need it. So you get the mental clarity - all the stuff you need from the keytones, and you don’t have to have a restrictive diet. • [It’s a] Super application for the ground guys. • I want people to try it [Keytone IQ]. I want people to say it’s the real deal. • You only buy Oakley’s for so long before they show up in the supply room. • The man behind the weapons systems is always gonna be more important, and the more effective he is, the better. • Stop wasting money on shit that works a little bit and phases out immediately and invest a tenth of that into the man – make a better soldier. • There’s a lot more guys that have [mental] issues than are willing to say they have issues. • I had an event in Afghanistan that challenged me morally. I was directly responsible for the deaths of young children. Of all the things I’ve done overseas – that was really rough. • It wasn’t until somebody I trusted that told me they were feeling what I was feeling that I was willing to go get help. Links: Partner link:  20% OFF code: TNQ 
In this week’s Team Never Quit Podcast, Marcus welcomes his guest, Trevor Millar, who has a unique, proven addiction-treating specialty. Trevor details the anti-additive properties of Ibogaine, a powerful African psychedelic with a high success rate for treating heroin and opiate addiction, Parkinson’s disease, and other psychological processes and neurological disorders. Trevor discusses significant acceptance of Ibogaine in Canada, which could result in the legitimization of this medicine, and other psychedelic medicines globally. In this episode you will hear: • [I had an] un-traumatic childhood. Kudos to my parents. (13:48) • I never have to worry about what I’m going to do in life because I could always fall back to waiting tables and love it. (21:50) • The first time I ever consumed LSD I was 14 years old. (39:26) • This is what adults have forgotten that has made the world so screwed up. (42:26) • The first person I ever gave Ibogaine to was a 72 year old man who wanted to quit smoking. (47:00) • Getting addicted to opiates is not like getting addicted to other substances. A lot of other substances, it’s a psychological addiction. With opiates, it’s actually a physical addiction. (50:26) • The only true cause of death is birth. (53:53) • [Ibogaine] has this amazing quality of “reset”. (63:47) • As we live life, were seeing life through a plane of glass. Like a filter. As our hearts get broken, as we suffer traumas, that glass gets dirty. And it gets so dirty, we don’t even recognize that it’s dirty anymore. And what these psychedelic substances seem to be able to do is clean that glass from the inside out. (65:23) • Ibogaine has the potential to keep working on you and with you. (70:26) • There will be a prescription within 2-4 years within the states. (85:32) • It’s something that it does that enables you to say “Life is awesome. My purpose is everywhere. I can just be happy for no reason again.” (92:58) • It brings out the best in people. (98:32)
From enduring her husband’s life-changing, horrific war injuries to becoming a National Advocate for wounded Veterans and their Caregivers, Sarah Verardo’s relentless never quit attitude has driven her to the forefront of two separate organizations who see the needs of Veterans and Allies, which have given her the opportunity to steward resources and support where and when they are most crucially needed. Sarah’s husband, Sgt. Michael Verardo was catastrophically wounded in Afghanistan in two separate IED attacks that took his left leg, much of his left arm, and left him with polytraumatic conditions that have required over one hundred surgeries and years of speech, visual, physical, and occupational therapies. Nevertheless, Sarah speaks with Marcus about the everyday challenges she and her daughters face in the care of her husband, her involvement as the CEO of The Independence Fund, and being at the forefront of Afghan Ally inclusion within the Veteran community. In August 2021, the collapse of Afghanistan led her and three others to co-found the direct-response rescue and aid organization - Save Our Allies, who evacuated more than 17,000 US citizens, SIV holders, and wartime Allies from the country and assisted in medical and humanitarian relief efforts in Ukraine.  In this episode you will hear: • [Michael Verardo] was injured the first time.  He was riding as a gunner and hit a roadside IED. He was ejected out. (12:54) • On his very first foot patrol back in - It was 14 days to the day of the first IED, there was an old Russian land mine that had been hooked up to 2 – 15gallon drums of homemade explosives, and it was game over. His left leg was immediately blown off. Most of his left arm was blown off. They actually ended up sewing it to his back on his medical flight. He burned over 30% of his body. He had damage to his airway, his eardrums were blown out. It was significant poly trauma. (13:29) • Marcus: “He got banged up and then you all got married?” (17:02) • Marcus: You know the odds of that happening? That’s when you know you’re not behind the wheel. (17:46) • That sense of patriotism calling – That’s all he wanted to do. (18:02) • It’s been horrific. More than my worst nightmare. (18:26) • He actually handed me a Bible before he handed me an engagement ring. (20:18) • He said holiness needs to be more important than happiness. (20:37) • His only prosthetic leg broke, and I duct taped it for 57 days while I waited for someone at the VA to sign a piece of paper. (33:18) • The Navy and the Navy hospital took care of him as if he was one of their own while we waited for VA to kick in. (24:23) • I think there needs to be permanent designations for certain conditions. (26:24) • It seems that some people – not all - at VA would rather fail by following the process, than succeed by deviating from it. (27:21) • Independence Fund started out in the halls of Water Reed, wanting to give independence back to those who sacrificed theirs for us. (34:39) • If someone did not care about Afghanistan at that time, it told me everything I needed to know about them. (41:47) • I think the White House wants us to move on from Afghanistan. They’re not only not helping – I think they’re actively in the way of groups that want to do good. (52:36) • Reach out to the wounded veterans in your community and help these families. (59:15)
From Navy SEAL sniper with Special Operations and Intelligence Community experience to Co-Founder of Caim Technology, a counter human trafficking organization. That’s this week’s Team Never Quit Podcast guest, Jeremy Mahugh. Marcus and Jeremy get in the weeds regarding Jeremy’s involvement in the development of cell phone app technology capable of identifying potential human trafficking risks as a preventive measure against being victimized.   Caim Technology In this episode you will hear: • [While in a float tank] I thought, “I wonder what it’d feel like if I just rolled over?”. I got the salt in my nose, and eyes, and ears, and the rest of the hour was shot. (8:41) • Everybody has the ability to travel now, but some people still don’t. (15:24) • [My grandfather] was in the Army Air Corps and was shot down over Yugoslavia in World War II. He was a POW. (22:44) • I’m still not sure if they know what soccer is in Texas. (24:03) • I just wanted to be part of a team – I wanted to part of something that was gonna push me to be better. (27:26) • [Caim Technology] is focused on collecting any kind of data on human trafficking or exploitation. (57:39) • One of the things that’s been missing is having a tool to put in the hands of the consumer. So we have a mobile app that will tell you if you’re interacting with someone in the [human trafficking] database. (58:02) • You can connect a consumer with a product via smart phone. That’s also happening in the human trafficking world. (59:51) • Q: Is the app available? A: We’re probably a month or two away from being launched. We’re collecting data from a multitude of websites. (66:11) • It will go to the app store soon, and has to go through beta testing. (66:30) • Technology has gotten to the point that it is everything to us. (70:22) • It’s the Wild West. There’s never been good parameters on how [AI] can be used. (75:16) • Everybody has a need to deal with this [Caim App] and has a need for good information. (78:04) • What I love about what we’re doing now is we’re here to support all of you. Our for-profit is there to make money, but provide tools and prevention and have a huge hammer in the fight against human trafficking. (82:15) 
What a privilege it is to have the top graduate of the Air Force Top Gun School and retired U.S. Air Force F-22 and F-15 fighter pilot and squadron commander, Rob “Cujo” Teschner in the studio with Marcus for this week’s Team Never Quit Podcast. Listen in for an inspiring conversation with Cujo, whose life is an amazing success story, and whose life mission is to teach and inspire others, bridging the gap between the principles of high performance combat veterans and high performance business. His fight with Colorectal Cancer is what prompted Cujo to retire from the Air Force early. Yet his ambition led to his path of entrepreneurship, leadership and team development. Cujo is the founder and CEO of VMax Group, an international leadership training company and he has authored several books, two of which went to #1 on the Amazon bestseller list. In this episode you will hear: • I loved being part of the Air Force family. We lived all over the place. (7:57) • 1977 when Luke Skywalker wants to join some academy and then join the rebellion. That resonated with me. (9:49) • As a kid, I felt like the military was my family. It’s what I knew. (10:50) • I thought it was always cool to hop on an airplane to go someplace new. To meet new people along the way. (13:00) • My letter – the one that says “thanks for applying” never said “try again”. (18:26) • The more people told me it wasn’t gonna happen the more committed I was to proving them wrong. (20:47) • I had never flown an airplane before I went to the Air Force Academy. (23:32) • Isn’t that stunning how fast we accelerate leadership – how fast we accelerate somebody to realize their potential?  (27:07) • If there was a time period I could freeze it would be First Lieutenant to Captain, because that’s when I was out there doing the mission. (28:28) • What we need is a constant stream of warriors who are ready to go forth and do. (35:18) • The biggest honor of my military career was being called to be an instructor at our Fighter Weapons School, basically it’s the Air Force Top Gun Program. (36:49) • You can beat people up and tell them how much they suck and they can learn from that, but another alternative might be Hey Cujo, we were 2 decisions from victory today. (43:55) • I try to apply that to my kids. (44:46) • One of the huge blessings of my life was being a part of teams that mattered. (48:09) • Our family team got a whole heck of a lot better as a result of my failure with cancer. That caused us to focus where we needed to. I’m eternally grateful for it. (52:32) • One of the best 4-star bosses I ever worked for would come in every month and ask us “Hey what are you doing for the home team?” (55:33)
In this week’s Team Never Quit Podcast, we bring you Part 2 of this episode featuring Drago Dzieran. A real American – born in Poland. Drago Dzieran is a former political prisoner for his activism against Communism. After arriving in the United States unable to speak English, Drago eventually became a US citizen, enlisted in the U.S. Navy and trained to serve as a Navy SEAL for 20 years. In Iraq, he fought in over 100 combat missions as the Naval Special Warfare Lead Breacher. Drago was awarded Bronze Star with “V” for valor, Navy Commendation Medal with “V” for valor, in addition to other various awards and decorations. Following his honorable retirement after twenty years in the Navy, Dzieran began a successful career as a software engineer. Drago founded the Navy SEALs Fund, a nonprofit with the mission of providing support for all generations of current, retired, and former UDT/SEAL teammates, their immediate dependents as well as Gold Star Families. Listen in as Drago shares his amazing life journey from Poland to living life as a real American in service to others.  In this episode you will hear: • Once they take away your freedom of speech, they censor you, they put out fake news… you have no defenses. (4:08) • The law was created in the socialist state to penalize free thinking. To criminalize opposition. (4:29) • America was built on the idea of personal freedom. (7:10) • [In the Ukraine] freedom is being taken away from them slowly. (8:37) • These people [Ukranians] are fighting for their lives now - freedom. (10:16) • We have former Generals saying that the Russians – “these poor souls don’t know they’re at war. They think they are on exercises.” You have to be an imbecile to repeat something like this. You have to be an idiot. (11:32) • [Ukranians] They want to be free, and our media is lying about it. (12:53) • Ukranians were always very patriotic. (13:10) • [Navy SEALS Fund] The way we operate is different than most charities. We don’t have paid positions. The fund is run by SEALS only. (35:57) • We help the Gold Start families: the spouse, the children, parents and siblings. (43:19) • We need to do something right then. We don’t need to send it through this board of “Lets talk about it when we meet next month. (44:27) There would be no Drago if not for people like Marcus, Morgan, Rob, Tage, Taco, & Jocco. (48:09) • For the Navy SEAL fund we don’t have forms and check the box. (61:08) • [Drago’s Book} The Pledge to America. (64:44) • I’m a better American today than I was yesterday, and I want to be a better American tomorrow than I am today. (64:50) • My biggest accomplishment is becoming a U.S. citizen. (65:05)
A real American – born in Poland. In this week’s Team Never Quit Podcast, Marcus meets with Drago Dzieran, a former political prisoner for his activism against Communism. After arriving in the United States unable to speak English, Drago eventually became a US citizen, enlisted in the U.S. Navy and trained to serve as a Navy SEAL. In Iraq, he fought in over 100 combat missions as the Naval Special Warfare Lead Breacher. Drago was awarded Bronze Star with “V” for valor, Navy Commendation Medal with “V” for valor, in addition to other various awards and decorations. Following his honorable retirement after twenty years in the Navy, Dzieran began a successful career as a software engineer. Drago founded the Navy SEALs Fund, a nonprofit with the mission of providing support for all generations of current, retired, and former UDT/SEAL teammates, their immediate dependents as well as Gold Star Families. Listen in as Drago shares his amazing life journey from Poland to living life as a real American in service to others. In this episode you will hear: • I was born in communist Poland. It was actually a socialist state run by communists. My father was part of the evil system. (7:13) • When the first Persian Gulf war broke out, I thought it was my moral obligation to support my country (8:35) • I’m not Polish-American; I am not “Something”-American. There is no hyphen. I’m just American. (8:50) • I could not build a job for my fellow citizens, but I could defend them. (8:56) • I spent 20 years as a Navy SEAL. (9:22) • For my father, it was first to obey the government. (10:28) • [My grandmother] taught me how to pray, and what to pray for. (11:25) • [My grandmother told me] “[The communists] kill people and imprison people for their beliefs. (11:52) • I still remember her [grandmother’s] words: “Poland is not free. It will not be free until we get rid of these people. (12:01) • [When my father found out] I was not allowed to pray with my grandmother alone. (12:45). • Pre-war Poland had one of the strongest Navy’s in the Baltic Sea. (16:55) • Prison time for me was education. A huge education about Polish history. (27:36) • [My father] believed that we need to convince people to socialism, because it offers such great things, but if we can’t, we have the power to eliminate these people. We call them enemies of the state. (30:47) • Even today, while Poland is free, some of them are being prosecuted. (38:17) • I’ll be the best US citizen America can have. (42:11) • American is built on goodness. (47:32) • You can live in the United States without being a citizen, but I wanted to be American. (56:02) 
NOTE: Today’s TNQP episode is a rebroadcast of our episode featuring Navy SEAL Mike Day. We bring it you in his honor and memory. Navy SEALS Mike Day and Marcus Luttrell engage in the graphic details of an unbelievable event that Mike, against all odds, survived. He took 27 rounds of an AK-47 pounding while on a mission in Fallujah, and lived to tell about it. When Mike shares his unparalleled true story, you won’t stop listening till the end. It’s a totally captivating series of events, told by the man who lived it. In this episode you will hear: • Fear’s either gonna lock you up, or it’s gonna tighten you up. I’m not saying go  out and do ridiculous shit every day, but its good to do stuff that scares you,  because if its good, it’s a tiny bit past what your comfort level is, and that’s how  you build resilience, you just get out of your comfort level. • I humbly submit myself as an example. (17:00)  • The only reason anybody knows me is because I got shot too many times. (17:20) • I would make sure people were asleep before I went out; it was a lot safer. (21:54) • The worst part about being over there is not actually doing the op, it’s getting to  and from. That’s where you get all messed up. (25:50) • A door in a room means something. (26:50) • When you blow stuff up, people wake up and they want to start shooting at  you. (27:09) • It’s really hard to kill a dog with one shot. (27:40) • I’ve walked through suburban areas in Iraq, with forty dogs barking at me, and  nobody wakes up. (27:49) • It’s amazing that twenty people can see the same thing, and see something  totally different. (30:41) • Literally from the time I dropped my right foot in that room, to the time I hit the  ground, to the first guy that I killed, might have been five seconds – it seemed   like minutes to me. (31:41) • A round went through the of the foot of the magazine – blew the hand grips off  the magazine. I could feel the springs in the palms of my hands, and I cleared the malfunction and I killed those two dudes. (37:25) • I was a way better social worker than I was a SEAL. (44:25) 
While there have been veterans who have competed in the reality show: Survivor: Season 43, never has there been a non-veteran winner who gave away the entirety of the $1,000,000 prize to veteran organizations. Until now. In this week’s Team Never Quit Podcast, meet Mike Gabler who did just that. What an engaging conversation Mike and Marcus have, as Mike shares some of the behind the scenes stories related to the program. Mike, a Texas native, comes from a family of veterans, but he serves his country in a significantly different way. He is a heart valve specialist, working with top surgeons and cardiologists - a multicultural group of people with a common focus - to take care of the patient. At age 43, Mike was the oldest contestant of the season, and the second oldest competitor in the history of Survivor. The lack of food and nourishment was really getting to him, yet he excelled in individual competition. He explained that he gained strength by thinking about the military members who are currently fighting, as well as those who’ve passed, and who’ve sacrificed so much for our nation. “I’m gonna donate the entire prize – the entire million dollars – in my father’s name, Robert Gabler, who’s a Green Beret, to Veterans in need who are struggling from psychiatric problems, PTSD, and to curb the suicide epidemic.” “Lot of heroes served in our military. We do this for fun; they do this for real.” Thumbnail Image: - CBS via Getty Images In this episode you will hear: • Everybody on Survivor likes Type 2 fun, because that’s what it was. (6:33) • We all became really close. We’re friends to this day. (6:38) • I went into the game at 200 pounds, and came out at 176. (8:41) • One day Ryan came back with a 2 foot clam. There were 2 pieces as big as 12oz filet mignons, and tasted just like scallops. (10:29) • [At first] it’s a punch in the face, but after about a week you start assimilating. (19:43) • [Growing up] whatever your dad yells at the TV or cheers for is what you cheer for, so we became Steelers fans. (24:23) • In Arab culture, when you like something, they’re inclined to give it to you. (26:40) • It was really an amazing experience as a child to traverse the world. (30:40) • I stood on the great wall [of China] when I was in middle school. (30:50) • When you travel around the world, you realize what a small place it is, and how similar people are at their core. (32:01) • Crocodiles can strike half the length of their body. (41:23) • The harder you work, the luckier you get. (49:56) • In 2011, this brand new technology called TAVR (Trans Aortic Valve Replacement) came out. (51:01) • I would look to the next bend in the road and I’d tell myself to get there. (54:12) • I was on an endurance challenge where I had to hold on tight. The record for it in 22 seasons was 25 minutes. My spirit exploded, and we broke the all-time record for that at over 45 minutes. (56:15) • Man can survive (and woman) if you can find meaning in your suffering. (58:41) • “Doing something bigger than yourself” drove me to persevere. (65:32) • When you go deep into yourself, big things can happen. (81:33)
What an engaging and compelling guest Marcus brings to the table in this week’s Team Never Quit Podcast. Jordan Harbinger, one of the most successful podcasters in the world, reveals his crafty (and illegal) but brilliant, stealthy methods for tapping into land line telephone conversations, and circumventing credit card machines in his early teenage years. While working out of the country, he details the experience of being kidnapped twice. His inquisitive mind was fascinated by the internet at an early age, and later became a Wall Street lawyer, followed by launching The Jordan Harbinger Show, where he deconstructs the playbooks of the most successful people on earth and shares their strategies. These days, Jordan’s biggest motivation is to help people succeed by teaching them to think better. In this episode you will hear: • When I was a kid, I wasn’t exactly inspirational to anyone. (4:13) • I didn’t have any money and listening to phone conversations and wiretapping got really interesting. I did that with cell phones, line pairs, and the green boxes on the side of the road. (7:13) • Listening to adults talk when they don’t know kids are around is completely different experience. (7:33) • [As a kid] you learn that adults have feelings, and problems just like you do. (10:25) • Are all adults just children that are winging it? Kind of – in a lot of ways. (12:25) • I learned to convince people to do things that I probably shouldn’t have convinced them to do. (15:55) • One of the things that I did that I got caught for was to go into a cell phone store’s dumpster at night and take the duplicate receipts from a carbon printer and use that information to program phones. (21:04) • I figured out how the credit card payment system worked at a pizza chain and you could use a number that would work in their machine and the machine didn’t reconcile the transactions until Friday’s. (22:12) • If there was a girl that I liked I would figure out what she liked by hacking into her computer. (27:46) • The coolest thing that I ever did was to help the FBI catch sexual predators. (36:09) • [In Mexico City] “Am I getting kidnapped right now?” “No, that can’t be it.” “Then I thought why can’t that be it?” I couldn’t open the door. (44:55) • Later when I lived in Panama, the same thing would happen, and dudes would get in the cab and say you’re going to the bank to take out as much money as you can, or we’re gonna stab you, or shoot you. (54:10)  • Two of the most addicting and destructive things in the world are heroin and a steady paycheck. (57:43) • Now I’ve got kids and the nightmares are outsourced. (62:27) • I try to teach people how to think better. (63:17)
A man’s man. A Patriot’s Patriot. A distinguished veteran as a U.S. Navy SEAL. And now a newly elected U.S. congressman. What a resume this week’s Team Never Quit Guest brings to the table as he brings an eye-opening discussion related to the role of a Congressman. Once a co-host of this very podcast, Morgan’s conversation with his twin brother Marcus Luttrell makes for an episode you don’t want to miss. Morgan’s life has perennially been one of service to others. A 5th generation Texan raised on a horse ranch. At an early age Morgan learned the importance of hard work, discipline, and personal responsibility. He turned his strong values, deep love for his country, and his passion for helping others into a career of distinguished service.  Morgan Luttrell brings bold leadership, and a “Put America First” mentality to his role as a U.S. Congressman. In this episode you will hear: • There’s an energy that lives [in a mob situation] and if you become a part of it, you may find yourself in a situation like “I didn’t intend to be here.” (3:59) • The DC Police did an amazing job of showing restraint [at the January 6th situation]. There were situations where they were getting close to death. (4:41) • The criminal justice system [in DC] is, you could say, “broken.” (5:38) • DC is a dumpster fire. They wanted everybody that lives in DC to have the right to vote, even if you’re a Chinese citizen working for the Chinese government; if you’re a Russian citizen working for the Russian embassy. (6:27) • Another role and responsibility of the lower chamber of congress is we control the purse strings. (9:19) • Passing legislation and controlling government money is what congress men and women do. (11:18) • We’re not at the cliff edge; we’re over it. We spend more than we take in. (13:14) • I don’t care about red or blue anymore. We’re here – 31 Trillion dollars in debt. I don’t care which administration did it.  (13:49) • We, in the past decades, have been increasing our debt limit, all the way up to 31 Trillion. (14:32)  • It needs to be said that if we don’t increase the debt ceiling and we default – that’s a problem. (21:52) • There’s a point in time we’ll be paying more on the interest of our debt, than we pay on our defense budget. (23:19) • When the cameras are on, people will turn the switch on and they become actors. (24:59) • Abraham Lincoln coined the word “lobbyist” because people would hang out in the lobby of his hotel and when he’d come down, they would just bum rush him and say we this, this, and this, and this is what we’ll do for you. (30:14) • I would never complain about this job, because I fought so hard to get it. (39:03) • The border’s a dumpster fire. (42:23) • It’s very humbling to walk through the hall of the Capitol. There’s so much history. (43:33) • The best part of my job is I get to meet so many people. (63:51) • The hardest part about campaigning is that it’s 24/7. (64:37)
A life of service. That’s the best description for this week’s guest and friend of the Team Never Quit Podcast. Marcus brings to the table Sidney Blair, who has served on a SWAT Team, Gang Unit, Detective, Air Marshal for Homeland Security, then retired, and has once again returned to police work for the Walker County Texas Sheriff’s Department. If ever there was a man with a relentless heart of service to people, coupled with character and integrity, it’s Sidney Blair. In this episode you will hear: • My first paying job was as the [Piggly Wiggly] Pig in the 4th of July Parade in Huntsville, Texas. (12:53) • Troopers have great uniforms. They’re like a recruiting poster. (14:38) • In Texas, a Peace Officer, is a Peace Officer, is a Peace Officer - whether you’re a Game Warden, a State Trooper, or City Cop or County Cop. (21:42) • Your job is to protect and serve. You go out to the good citizens of your county, or city, or state, or your federal jurisdiction, and you protect from any evils that exist, including themselves. (25:52) • Al lot of police officers will become calorically challenged. (26:58) • Fear is forced. Respect is earned. (29:32) • The government is paying my salary. My job is to get out there and change your tire. (33:27) • I still have some fight left in me. I still want to serve my community. I still want to help the people that need help. (37:34) • I spent 19 of my 20 years at the Air Marshals. (44:06) • I had a retirement party from the Air Marshals that I didn’t know about. (57:18) • You should serve something larger than yourself if you have the ability to do it. (64:11) • If you have never stood before a man with a badge in handcuffs, and he held your freedom and life in his hands, and he gave you a break, and you knew what a break you got – you ain’t qualified to be a cop. (66:49) • You see someone get out of hand - I don’t care if they’re in uniform; you pull them off. You physically remove them from the scene. You save them from themselves. (68:10) • People feed off of bad news. (76:25) • The worst thing in the world that we have is the breakdown of the nucleus of the family that people don’t have upbringing where they learn to respect other people. (80:05) • Soft times build soft people. (81:37) • When you defund the police, I can tell you the very first place it comes from – training. (88:45)
What an incredible guest we have on this week’s Team Never Quit Podcast. Marcus engages in a compelling discussion with former Force Recon Marine, Chad Robichaux. With eight deployments to Afghanistan as part of a Joint Special Operations Command (JSOC) Task Force, Chad overcame his personal battles with PTSD after nearly becoming a veteran suicide statistic. Chad is the founder of the Mighty Oaks Foundation, serving the active duty, military veteran and first responder communities around the world with highly successful faith-based combat trauma and resiliency programs. He has spoken to over 450,000 active-duty troops and led life-saving programs for over 4,600 active military and veterans at four Mighty Oaks Ranches around the U.S. He has served as an advisor to former President Trump, Congress, the VA, and the Department of Defense. Another one of Chad’s personal endeavors, Save Our Allies, is focused on the evacuation and recovery of Americans, our allies and vulnerable people still trapped in Afghanistan. His original mission was to rescue his long-time friend and Afghanistan interpreter, but the mission quickly evolved because of Chad’s compassion for people and his servant heart. Since its inception, Save Our Allies has safely evacuated over 17,000 people that were trapped in Afghanistan and he is now helping in Ukraine. As if that weren’t enough, Chad is a lifelong martial artist. He holds a 4th degree Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu Black Belt and is a former Professional Mixed Martial Arts Champion having competed at the highest levels of the sport. In this episode you will hear: • My family has 84 years of military service. (11:38) • I was raised in a very dysfunctional home because my father never recovered from Vietnam. (13:26) • Our operation was compromised and I ended up being abducted. (28:52) • On the surface, everything seemed fine. Then I crashed, had an affair, filed for divorce, and attempted to take my life. The some amazing people came around me and helped us to restore my family and my faith. (32:39) • I tried to build the courage to take my life and I had my Glock 40 caliber pistol, but I was interrupted, and it was enough to pump the brakes. (33:20) • My wife asked me: “How can you do all you did in the military, but when it comes to your family, you’ll quit?” (34:19) • You’re gonna deal with anxiety, depression, and anger, but you could respond to it in a better way that could lead you to a better place. 37:36) • God’s like a centerpiece solution, because a lot of what we deal with are spiritual wounds. (38:31) • President Bush signed the Opportunity for Faith Mission in 2001, then in 2009, President Obama signed a policy to override that, and take funding away from faith-based programs. (53:14) • In Afghanistan, people couldn’t go in to help, but in Ukraine you could drive a bus across the border to do mass evacs. (55:37) • I’ve been getting a lot of heat like: Why are you going over there to help – the governments is corrupt. None of that matters. These people didn’t ask for any of this. They’re being invaded by a super power. (58:15) • Glenn Beck (Radio Show Host) raised 21 million dollars to support our mission. (77:49) • The White House said there were 100 Americans left [in Afghanistan] but without debate there were thousands of Americans still there. (80:38) • You don’t leave Americans behind. The White even promised that they wouldn’t but they did. (81:43)
In this week’s Team Never Quit Podcast, Marcus spends some time speaking with retired U.S. Army Special Forces Colonel Chris Miller, who served as the Acting Secretary of Defense under President Donald Trump. Chris also served as Director of the National Counter-Terrorism Center as well as numerous command and staff positions within the 5th Special Forces group (Airborne). He also participated in combat operations in Afghanistan & Iraq. In his role as the Secretary of Defense, Chris was overseeing military departments, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, the unified commands, as well as planning and coordinating military deployments and operations. With his vast military knowledge and experience of over 3 decades, Mr. Miller brings to the table an interesting and informative perspective to the role of the U.S military, and it’s function at every level. In this episode you will hear: • This is the book launch, officially. (9:01) • They have all this exclusive intelligence. You know how much got to the ground force? Zero.(15:44) • There were lessons learned, and we’re all about passing it on. That’s what we’re all about now. (18:07) • [Speaking to Marcus] This is the path the Lord put you on. You accept that. You are the face of the war. (21:58) • The [the military] has a structure that will take people in and form them differently and change how they view life in a good way. (25 :00) • The army makes a good man better and a bad man worse. (27:26) • It’s all about selfless service and it’s not about you (32:44) • When my heart and my mind became aligned with being a selfless servant, it was like rocket fuel. (33:28) • When you realize this is how it is might as well just embrace it. It’s a game changer. (33:42) • I was the Secretary of Defense under President Trump for the last 73 days. Not a lot went on. (37:19) • I spent like 35-36 years as a government employee or as a military person. (38:03) • If you are asked to interview for a job, always interview because you’re gonna learn something and you might get the job. (42:28) • Al Qaeda had been seriously weakened from all of our attacks. We call it mowing the grass. Just keep killing them off. Eventually there’s not going to be anybody left – and it worked. (44:32) • I know we can’t defeat terrorism - that’s a verb. We can defeat Al Quada (a noun).  (45:26) • [Marcus] If we’re fighting terrorists, we’re trained terrorists, trained to cause terror to them, so much so that there won’t be another group coming up after them. (45:57) • Special Operator: Figure out the network, figure out the incentive system, communicate, execute. (46:50) • The only person who could keep us attacking was President Trump. (47 :04) • We killed off the head of ISIS. This guy was the definition of evil. (47:38) • The President asked me if I wanted to become a political appointee. (48:36) • The purpose of the military is not only to protect and serve, but to defend the constitution and to ultimately protect the people of the United States. (51:43) • I only learn when I screw something up. (64:05) • I was really pissed about the way Afghanistan ended. (65:55) • We will fire a kid who messes up a piece of paperwork, and our generals aren’t held accountable for losing a war. (66:16) • Chris’ Book: Soldier Secretary (85:57) 
In this week’s Team Never Quit Podcast, Marcus, Melanie, Hunter & John recap the 2022 episodes. It serves as a capsule-form reminder of episodes you may be interested in listening to that you might have missed. “The Crew” is moving onward to a fabulous line-up of guests for the 2023 season. In this episode you will hear: • A big “Shout Out” and “Thank You!” to all our TNQP guests in 2022. Our 2022 guest profiles included the likes of Gold Star widows, Former Navy Seals, bull riders, a Governor, a paralytic experiencing an unbelievable recovery, Marine Corps veterans, authors, a kidnap survivor, an MMA world champion, abduction survivors, a retired Navy Captain, a Retired Green Beret, a VA claims assistance expert, former CIA agents, a Muscular Dystrophy patient, a bilateral arm amputee w bionic arms, a correspondent for The Wall Street Journal, a war correspondent, a man who trekked across Antarctica on his own power, a retired Army Ranger, a Green Beret, extreme athletes, an athlete with a disabilities, the first Arab woman to summit K2, a collegiate world record holder in wrestling, an Olympian, a man who’s goal in life is to interviewer every surviving WWII veteran, a celebrity chef and mental health advocate, a retired veteran with so many accomplishments, we had to vet him to confirm that his experiences were true – and they were, and proponents of soldiers killed while saving their comrades in battle. What an amazing line up of guests there were in 2022, and we’re working hard to make our 2023 line up even better.  THANKS TO EVERY SINGLE TNQP LISTENER!!! Gambling Problem? Call 877-8-HOPENY/text HOPENY (467369) (NY), If you or someone you know has a gambling problem, crisis counseling and referral services can be accessed by calling 1-800-GAMBLER (1-800-426-2537) (CO/IL/IN/LA/MD/MI/NJ/PA/TN/WV/WY)
America owes a great debt of gratitude to this week’s Team Never Quit Podcast guest, Yousef Sediq. Side by side with elite U.S. Special Forces, and as a commander in Task Force-241, Yousef was involved in countless raids, assisted in the capture of thousands of Taliban terrorists, and helped save the lives of innocent Afghan civilians. When Afghanistan fell once again to the Taliban, Yousef helped secure the Kabul Airport in an effort to evacuate Americans from the country. After a suicide bomber killed hundreds, including thirteen U.S. service members at the airport’s entrance, Yousef and his family were airlifted to the United States, where he was forced to start a new life.  In this episode you will hear: I lost 2 of my younger sisters when they were little to starvation. We didn’t have enough food. Every part of [Afghanistan] has their own leader, because of the different cultures and languages. There were Afghans killing other Afghans. They would shoot at you for fun. It was their mentality to fight like pirates, sometimes shooting random people walking down the street. They don’t want their people to be educated. Schools are locked down.  There is much religious manipulation (i.e. Holy wars; If you fight, you will go to heaven with 42 (or 72) virgins awaiting you. I have studied it and nowhere in Islam does it say that if women have bare feet they should die. But people are uneducated, and nobody’s fighting them, and starvation is rampant.   There are people with no brains running the country. I found work at 16 years old when I got a military job using a fake ID saying I was 18. Intel is always taken seriously, even if it’s information from nowhere. One of the main issues between Coalition forces and local Turks is a lack of trust. I was blown up while working with the Canadians. We hit a roadside IED and I suffered a brain injury, resulting in lifelong brain seizures. When that happened, I see the Angel of Death for a second, then I came back. I wanted to stay in the fight. Assign me wherever you want to assign me, send me to whatever base you want to send me, just give me good food and it doesn’t matter where you want to send me. The media gives you what they want you to hear.  Yousef’s Book: 5,000 Days of War  Support Yousuf Pre-Order 5,000 Days of War  Support TNQ
In this week's episode, we learn the vivid details of the events leading up to the courage, love, and self-sacrifice made by Medal of Honor recipient, Corporal Jason L. Dunham of Kilo Company, 3rd Battalion, 7th Marines in Karabilah, Iraq. What a leader by example Jason was - to the point of throwing himself onto a grenade in an effort to save his comrades. Marcus' guests, David Kniess (Veteran & Producer) and Lieutenant Colonel Trent Gibson (Dunham’s Company Commander), not only bring Jason's story to life, but discuss the compelling and engaging upcoming documentary - The Gift. The Gift documentary is a personal project for David, who had a chance to meet with Corporal Dunham. That chance meeting led to lifelong friendships with the Dunham family and a core group of Marines from Kilo Company. David is actively involved in the Veteran community and has volunteered his time, producing content for Veteran Organizations such as Beteran, Stop Soldier Suicide, John Preston Music, and The Boot Campaign. David also served in the United States Navy aboard the USS Normandy (CG-60), a guided missile cruiser.   In this episode you will hear: Having the Dunham’s in my life has enriched my life. It’s not just about Jason; it’s about everything that has affected all of you all those years. Our generation and the younger generation is standing up and saying, “I’m not gonna wait for anyone. I’m gonna jump out there and teach guys how to surf, how to sing with dogs, start a podcast, and we’re talking about our shit. [With regard to this film], all I care about is what Marines, Sailors, Airmen and Soldiers think. For veterans who are still struggling, I want them to watch it and say “if these kid can do it, maybe I can do it too.” I want civilians to know what it’s like for young men & women to go to war. [Marcus] If somebody threw one of those “Thank you for service” lines at you – even if you haven’t done something – it’s coming…” I believe in 3 things as a Marine. I believe in leadership by example; I believe in self-sacrifice for the greater good; and one man can make a difference. Jason had the leadership qualities to lead a rifle squad of American sons. Dunham was a big boy. He’s not someone I would choose to grapple with. Any leader who inspires his subordinates through personal example, to then return the favor and take care of him – that’s a true leader. Jason took off his Kevlar helmet, placed in on the grenade, and then laid down on it. Knowing what I know of him now, he loved his marines so much. He didn’t just take care of them, he practiced taking care of them. Who f*cking practices covering a live grenade with their helmet? Support The Gift Support TNQ
If ever there was a man with more military experience than almost anybody, Keith Nightingale is the one. What an incredible military resume he shares with Marcus in this week’s Team Never Quit Podcast. From serving in the U.S. Army for almost 3 decades to serving in 2 tours in Vietnam, to serving as the Director of the Department of Defense (DOD) Counter-drug Task Force in Latin America, which was able to apprehend Pablo Escobar. He developed the present Army Ranger Training Program and initiated the Snowcap Model Training Program for DEA personnel assigned to operational missions in Latin America. His experiences included the liberation of Grenada and Panama and a variety of special operations missions.  All of the above doesn’t even touch the surface of Mr. Nightingale’s military experience, not to mention a myriad of awards and honors. Listen in as he and Marcus engage in a lively discussion about all of his military experiences. In this episode you will hear: My family has had some association with the military since the pilgrims, literally. I’m an only child. My parents were old and had arguments. We would give the enemy the maximum opportunity to give his life for his country. [In Vietnam] in the course of less than 24 hours, we went from 450 people to 32 people. [In battle] you don’t fear, you focus. Life is luck and timing. There’s nothing that I did that was planned for before it occurred. Normandy is kinda the Arkansas of France – there hasn’t been a lot of development going on there. We created a task force specifically focused to bring U.S. assets to support the Columbian government in getting [Pablo] Escobar. You don’t think about what might happen you just do what you have to do. It’s later that you get into reflection. In life, if something is gonna happen, it’s gonna happen. There’s nothing you can do to control it. Do your best when you have a chance to do something. You can put 4 people on the same battle sight fighting the same fight, less than 20 meters apart, and they’ve got 4 different views of what actually happened - and every one of them is true. My legacy is the bridge between what the vet said and what the active duty sees and appreciates. Be good to people. Do the best you can when you get a chance to do it, because you may not have another chance. 
Comments (74)

Travis Tripp

this is such an awesome interview

Oct 6th


God Bless

Sep 10th


Love the way you guys encourage her!

Mar 3rd


This was a beautiful episode. Thank you for sharing all of these wonderful heart-warming stories. From the jokes that Taya likes to play on others, to the tears that you two shared during the talks. 💗

Sep 15th


sorry Marcus. Love your show but cant stand jj watts views and what he promotes. Your too great a dude to have a AntiAmerican lefty like him on your show. Trump 2020

Aug 19th

Clancy Ortmann

this is one off very few podcasts I've actively gone back and listened to again.

Jul 17th

sakib tanvir


Jul 3rd


Mike Day... cause even Chuck Norris needs someone to fear.

Jun 30th


Just listened to the mamma. Great great interview. She is the bad ass in that family but as sweet as apple pie. Get well Mamma. Loved the stories and look forward to hearing more from you.

Apr 26th

Adrianne Kuch

Thank you for this episode! She is definitely a badass and such a great message of "I Can and I Will!" I needed this today, thanks!

Apr 9th

Casey J

Ever wonder where the baddest men on the planet come from? The baddest women on the planet.✌

Feb 11th

Travis Tripp

What a moving story!!!!

Nov 25th
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Travis Tripp

One of the best shows

Nov 23rd
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Brian Fish

just lost some respect for this show after seeing a mike pence intvw. fuck that war mongering Israeli cuck

Nov 13th
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God bless

Nov 13th
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Love ya brother Gary

Oct 17th


amazing leadership and heroism

Oct 11th

Estevan Cavazos

One of the most motivating and amazing interviews! i couldn't stop listening!!

Oct 8th


Asian pussies

Sep 20th

Johnathan Pitcock

The legitimate American Badass!! Goggiiinnnsss, Goggggiinnnssss!!!

Sep 17th
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