That's Messed Up: An SVU Podcast

On today’s episode Liza and Kara recap the all-too-real “Real Fake News” (Season 18, Episode 17), analyze the bizarre events around PizzaGate, and speak to the delightful Kevin Carolan (Can You Ever Forgive Me?).SOURCES:The New York Times 1The New York Times 2TimeWikipedia - Pizzagate conspiracy theoryWikipedia - Jack PosobiecSouthern Poverty Law CenterEsquireWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:‘How Americans can help stop fake news’ by Emily Gersemahttps://news.usc.edu/179176/how-to-help-stop-fake-news-misinformation-usc-experts/Next week’s episode will be “Shaken” (Season 5, Episode 10).See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This week Kara and Liza cover “Abomination” (Season 5, Episode 8), investigate the horrific practices of the Westboro Baptist Church, and have a fantastic convo with the wonderful Michael Boatman (Spin City, The Good Fight).SOURCES:The New York Times 1The New York Times 2The New York Times 3MatthewShepard.comHistory.comNPR 1NPR 2NPR 3Southern Poverty Law Center 1Southern Poverty Law Center 2The Press and JournalThe Westboro Baptist Church WebsiteCNN​​JohnAvlon.comTimePoliticoThe Washington PostWNYCEsquireWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:PFLAGhttps://pflag.org/Next week’s episode will be “Real Fake News” (Season 18, Episode 17).See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Hosted by Ash Kelley and Alaina Urquhart from the hit show Morbid.When 90-year-old Laurence Pilgeram drops dead on the sidewalk outside his condo, you might think that’s the end of his story. But, really, it’s just the beginning. Because Laurence and others like him have signed up to be frozen and brought back to life in the future. And that belief will pull multiple generations of the Pilgeram family into a cryonics soap opera filled with dead pets, gold coins, grenades, fist fights, mysterious packages, family feuds, Hall of Fame baseball legends, and frozen heads — lots of frozen heads. From Wondery, comes a story about life, death, and what comes next.Follow Frozen Head on Amazon Music or wherever you get your podcasts. Binge early and ad-free by subscribing to Wondery+ in Apple Podcasts or the Wondery App.  Listen to Frozen Head: Wondery.fm/FH_TMUSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This week Kara and Liza go over the episode “Tangled Strands of Justice” (Season 23, Episode 19), untangle a Jane Doe case whose DNA was inappropriately utilized, and have a fantastic conversation with the fabulous Orfeh.SOURCES:NPR 1NPR 2NPR 3Davis VanguardSan Francisco Chronicle 1San Francisco Chronicle 2San Francisco Chronicle 3San Francisco Chronicle 4​​California Legislative InformationFastDemocracyNew York Times 1New York Times 2New York Times 3Electronic Frontier FoundationWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:Black Women Revolthttps://blackwomenrevolt.org/Next week’s episode will be “Abomination” (Season 5, Episode 8).See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This is a historic episode. This week, Liza and Kara break down “Home Invasions” (Season 13, Episode 14) and discuss the disturbing case of Jennifer Pan. Plus, they speak to the legend, the one and only Kelli Giddish aka Detective Amanda Rollins.SOURCES:Wikipedia - Stacey LannertWikipedia - Jennifer PanToronto LifeCBC 1CBC 2Northwest Asian WeeklyCrime TravellerWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:A Daughter's Deadly Deception: The Jennifer Pan Storyhttps://www.dundurn.com/books_/t22117/a9781459735248-a-daughter-s-deadly-deceptionNext week’s episode will be “Tangled Strands of Justice” (Season 23, Episode 19).See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

On today’s episode Liza and Kara recap the haunting “Persona” (Season 10, Episode 8). They discuss the lives of three separate women who inspired this episode - Leslie Crocker Snyder, Marie Dean Arrington, and Kiranjit Ahluwalia. And they have a chat with the iconic Clea DuVall.SOURCES:The New YorkerWikipedia - Leslie Crocker SnyderWikipedia - Marie Dean ArringtonWikipedia - Kiranjit AhluwaliaWe’re HistoryMurderpediaCrimeReadsThe GuardianSouthall Black SistersWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:DomesticShelters.orghttps://www.domesticshelters.org/Next week’s episode will be “Home Invasions” (Season 13, Episode 14).See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This week Kara and Liza do the unthinkable and recap two episodes - “Intersecting Lives” & “Heartfelt Passages” (Season 17, Episodes 22 & 23), they dissect the horrific crimes of former police officer Daniel Holtzclaw, and they have a riveting chat with Andy Karl aka Sergeant Mike Dodds aka “Baby Dodds.”SOURCES:The OklahomanBuzzfeed NewsThe New York TimesThe Washington Post 1The Washington Post 2The Washington Post 3ReutersThe Daily BeastCNNWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:Women’s Prison Associationhttps://www.wpaonline.org/Next week’s episode will be “Persona” (Season 10, Episode 8).See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This week Liza and Kara discuss the iconic episode “Zebras” (Season 10, Episode 22), examine the tragic murder of Kendra Webdale, and chat with the legendary Mike Doyle aka Forensics Tech Ryan O'Halloran. SOURCES:The New York Times 1The New York Times 2The New York Times 3The New York Times 4The New York Daily NewsWikipedia - Kendra's LawNew York MagazineGothamistWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:Treatment Advocacy Centerhttps://www.treatmentadvocacycenter.org/Next week’s episodes will be “Intersecting Lives” & “Heartfelt Passages” (Season 17, Episodes 22 & 23).See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

In this episode, Liza and Kara break down “Perverted” (Season 11, Episode 9). Then they take on faking DNA, the scientific cons of Fred Zain, and the wild world of biker gangs. Plus, they have a great conversation with the wonderful Emma Myles (Orange Is the New Black).SOURCES:GrungeInternational Journal of Motorcycle StudiesHells-angels.comThe New York Times 1The New York Times 2Forensic Science InternationalWikipedia - Fred ZainThe Herald-DispatchWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:One Simple Wishhttps://www.onesimplewish.org/Next week’s episode will be “Zebras” (Season 10, Episode 22).See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This week Kara and Liza recap “Dominance” (Season 4, Episode 20), analyze the horrific Wichita Massacre, and chop it up with the delightful Caren Browning aka CSU Captain Judith Siper.SOURCES:The New York TimesOxygenWichita-massacre.comNewsweekUS NewsThe Topeka Capital-JournalLawrence Journal-World 1Lawrence Journal-World 2Wichita State UniversityForgottenvictims.comCNNThe Washington TimesCBS NewsKAKEKansas State University FoundationJason Befort Memorial TournamentMental FlossWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:‘Sibling Bullying and Abuse: The Hidden Epidemic’ by Darlene Lancer, JD, LMFThttps://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/toxic-relationships/202002/sibling-bullying-and-abuse-the-hidden-epidemicNext week’s episode will be “Perverted” (Season 11, Episode 9).See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Today Liza and Kara break down the much-requested “Secrets Exhumed” (Season 14, Episode 14), recount the unbelievable story behind the murder of Sherri Rasmussen, and have a chat with the iconic Roscoe Orman (Sesame Street).SOURCES:Vanity FairWikipedia - Murder of Sherri RasmussenThe Huffington PostAll That’s InterestingThe New York Times 1The New York Times 2JCS - Criminal Psychology - The Interrogation of Stephanie LazarusThe Daily NewsThe AtlanticDeadlineWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:‘Matthew McGough: The Lazarus Files’ on the Wicked Words podcast:https://podcasts.apple.com/in/podcast/matthew-mcgough-the-lazarus-files/id1538204210?i=1000570277307Next week’s episode will be “Dominance” (Season 4, Episode 20).See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

On today’s episode, Liza and Kara recap “Unorthodox” (Season 9, Episode 13), discuss the crimes of Yehuda Kolko and what happened at an Allentown, PA elementary school in 2007. Plus they have a fun chat with the multi-talented Zoe Lister-Jones (Life in Pieces, The Craft: Legacy).SOURCES:The New York Times 1The New York Times 2The New York PostWikipedia - Yeshiva Torah TemimahAsbury Park PressNew York MagazineNBC NewsThe United States Department of JusticePocono RecordThe Morning CallWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:ZA’AKAH - Dedicated to advocating for survivors of child sexual abuse in the Orthodox Jewish community.https://www.zaakah.org/Next week’s episode will be “Secrets Exhumed” (Season 14, Episode 14).See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Today Kara and Liza dive into the unsettling episode “Harm” (Season 9, Episode 5), dissect the horrors of Abu Ghraib, and speak to the wonderful Steven Weber (Wings, Chicago Med).SOURCES:The New Yorker 1The New Yorker 2NPRThe New York TimesThe Washington PostCNNWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:‘The Ballad of Abu Ghraib’ by Philip Gourevitch and Errol Morrishttps://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/301042/the-ballad-of-abu-ghraib-by-philip-gourevitch/Next week’s episode will be “Unorthodox” (Season 9, Episode 13).See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This week, Liza and Kara follow the wild twists of “Bullseye” (Season 12, Episode 2), discuss the heartbreaking case of Kim Sa-rang, and have an inspiring chat with the legend, Stephen Tobolowsky (Groundhog Day, Silicon Valley).SOURCES:CNN 1CNN 2Kotaku 1Kotaku 2The Daily BeastThought MaybeNBC NewsPsychiatric NewsAmerican Psychiatric AssociationWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:‘What are the Signs of Video Game Addiction?’https://www.healthygamer.gg/blog/what-are-the-signs-of-video-game-addictionNext week’s episode will be “Harm” (Season 9, Episode 5).See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Episode 100! This week Kara and Liza recap “Paternity” (Season 9, Episode 9), discuss the tragic case of Christina Long, and speak to the one and only Isabel Gillies AKA Kathy Stabler!SOURCES:CBS NewsLA TimesFindLawThe News-TimesNY Times 1NY Times 2Westchester MagazineWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:‘Online Dating and Dating App Safety Tips’https://www.rainn.org/articles/online-dating-and-dating-app-safety-tipsNext week’s episode will be “Bullseye” (Season 12, Episode 2).See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Liza and Kara break down the seminal episode “Alta Kockers” (Season 20, Episode 10), unearth the story of the fabled Collyer brothers, and talk to the gregarious thespian and teacher Michael Kostroff (The Wire, Billions).SOURCES:Wikipedia - Murder of Angie ZapataGlaad.orgThe Denver PostWikipedia - JT LeRoyVanity FairWikipedia - Collyer brothersNew York Daily NewsAmusing PlanetAll That's InterestingNY TimesWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:The Angie Zapata Murder: Violence Against Transgender People Resource Kithttps://www.glaad.org/resourcekits/angiezapataNext week’s episode will be “Paternity” (Season 9, Episode 9).See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Kara and Liza discuss “Svengali” (Season 9, Episode 6), explore the astonishing case of Veronica Compton and her love for “The Hillside Strangler,” and have a wonderful chat with the super talented Shannon Woodward (Westworld, Raising Hope).SOURCES:Buffalo NewsUnited Press InternationalAP News9News - DenverCriminal Minds WikiObserver-ReporterWikipedia - Kenneth BianchiA&EGrungeThe Seattle TimesWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:‘Women Who Love Men Who Kill: 35 True Stories of Prison Passion, The 21st Century Edition, Updated with New Cases’ by Sheila Isenberghttps://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/women-who-love-men-who-kill-sheila-isenberg/1140178649Next week’s episode will be “Alta Kockers” (Season 20, Episode 10).See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

In this episode, Kara and Liza recap “Maternal Instincts” (Season 17, Episode 6), discuss the strange case of violinist Stefan Arzberger, and have a phenomenal chat with cool dad, Zach McGowan (Shameless, Black Sails).SOURCES:New York Times 1New York Times 2New York PostPeopleLimelight MagazineNewsdayWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:‘5 Strategies to Cope With Toxic Family Members’ by Abigail Brenner M.D.https://www.psychologytoday.com/intl/blog/in-flux/202204/5-strategies-cope-toxic-family-membersNext week’s episode will be “Svengali” (Season 9, Episode 6).See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

The ladies recap the infamous episode “Double Strands” (Season 13, Episode 4) and discuss the bizarre case of Darrin Fernandez, as well as the crimes of the "The East Coast Rapist." Plus, Kara and Liza sit down with an SVU regular, the wonderful Karen Tsen Lee.SOURCES:Mental FlossSouth Coast TodayWCVBNews 24Wikipedia - East Coast RapistWashington Post 1Washington Post 2Washington Post 3WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:‘One Twin Committed the Crime — but Which One? A New DNA Test Can Finger the Culprit’ by Carl Zimmerhttps://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/01/science/twins-dna-crime-paternity.htmlNext week’s episode will be “Maternal Instincts” (Season 17, Episode 6).See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Kara and Liza recount the episode “Plastic” (Season 20, Episode 11), explore the unsettling crimes of Grant Robicheaux and Cerissa Riley, and chop it up with the magnificent Mark Feuerstein (Royal Pains, Wet Hot American Summer: Ten Years Later).SOURCES:LA Times 1LA Times 2LA Times 3LA Times 4DeadlineCBS News 1CBS News 2Wikipedia - Grant RobicheauxBuzzfeedHeySoCalMyNewsLA.comWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:Date Rape Drugs - Office on Women’s Healthhttps://www.womenshealth.gov/a-z-topics/date-rape-drugsNext week’s episode will be “Double Strands” (Season 13, Episode 4).See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.