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Bringing you up to date news, interviews and guests from around the world of UFOs, UAP & connected phenomena

Hosted by Andy McGrillen






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Pre-order my new book - https://geni.us/AtlasOfUFOs Join us in this episode as we take a deep dive into a viral video shared during a recent UAP hearing. Andy welcomes an anonymous guest, a former ammunition technician from the British Army, who shares his expertise on the explosive systems and his analysis of the video. The discussion goes through a detailed breakdown of what might actually be depicted, including the possibility of a Hellfire missile test. Despite wanting to believe in the extraordinary, our guest provides a compelling explanation that might debunk the exciting initial interpretations. Also, hear a personal UFO experience that adds a poignant touch to the conversation. Introduction and Context Expert Background and Credentials Initial Reactions to the Video Detailed Analysis of the Video Missile Strike Explanation Personal UFO Experience Final Thoughts and Conclusion 🔥 Support the show & get bonus content: 🛸 YouTube Memberships:    / @thatufopodcast   🛸 Patreon:   / thatufopodcast   🛸 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast... 🛸 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ... 🛸 Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOP... 📲 Connect with the show: Twitter: @UFOUAPAM Facebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO Podcast YouTube:    / thatufopodcast   Email: UFOUAPAM@gmail.com All links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapam Official Website: https://ThatUFOPodcast.com 👍 Don’t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review — it really helps! Thanks for listening, Andy
Pre-order my new book - https://geni.us/AtlasOfUFOs Only 24 hours after the historic UFO hearings in Washington D.C., we dive into the key moments, testimonies, and controversies that emerged. We cover the witness accounts of Dylan Borland, Chief Alexandro Wiggins, and George Knapp, analyzing what their statements could mean for the broader disclosure conversation. We also look at newly analyzed video footage presented around the hearings, and how it’s shaping public and congressional perception. Beyond the witness table, we explore the bigger themes: the protections and risks for whistleblowers, the debate around overclassification, transparency in government, and the challenges of navigating controversial figures in the UFO discussion. We also reflect on congressional questioning, political motivations, and what the future may hold for disclosure efforts. Immediate reactions to the hearing and its significance Witness testimonies and detailed statements Whistleblower protections, risks, and government response Public perception of key figures and media narratives Transparency, overclassification, and gatekeepers The role of newly analyzed video footage Reactions from social media and the disclosure community Final thoughts on what these hearings mean going forward Check out Dan's new project - https://www.tobehumanshow.com/ 🔥 Support the show & get bonus content: 🛸 YouTube Memberships: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join 🛸 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast 🛸 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397 🛸 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ 🛸 Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast 📲 Connect with the show: Twitter: @UFOUAPAM Facebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO Podcast YouTube: https://youtube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast Email: UFOUAPAM@gmail.com All links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapam Official Website: https://ThatUFOPodcast.com 👍 Don’t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review — it really helps! Thanks for listening, Andy 🎵 Music Credits: "Girl with the Saucer Eyes" – Adam Goldsack → http://bitly.ws/kvIK
Pre-order my new book - https://geni.us/AtlasOfUFOs This is my immediate reactions and initial thoughts on todays UAP hearings. Summarising the key statements from witnesses, including former Air Force and Navy personnel, and discussing the new UAP footage displayed during the hearing.  Immediate Reactions Setting the Scene: Low Expectations Key Statements and Witnesses The testimony 5th Witness Surprise Appearance Intriguing New Video Evidence 🔥 Support the show & get bonus content: 🛸 YouTube Memberships: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join 🛸 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast 🛸 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397 🛸 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ 🛸 Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast 📲 Connect with the show: Twitter: @UFOUAPAM Facebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO Podcast YouTube: https://youtube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast Email: UFOUAPAM@gmail.com All links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapam Official Website: https://ThatUFOPodcast.com 👍 Don’t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review — it really helps! Thanks for listening, Andy 🎵 Music Credits: "Girl with the Saucer Eyes" – Adam Goldsack → http://bitly.ws/kvIK
Its the week of the UAP Hearings in Congress, so here is your last update before the big day on the 9th September (link to watch below) Book Launch Announcement Upcoming Historic Hearings Witnesses and Their Backgrounds Legal Implications of Lying to Congress Danny Sheen and Whistleblower Protections Garry Nolan on Joe Rogan New Paradigm Institute Film Jake Barber's Interview on Consciousness Matthew Brown's Substack Series UFO Leadership Discussion Upcoming Events and Final Thoughts Book event -  https://www.thomastosh.com/store/p/atlasufosticket Watch the UAP Hearings - http://youtube.com/live/LBKRr5OvF6E?si=ofq7Q-Q1Ackc7HFg Matthew Brown substack -  https://sunofabramelin.substack.com/p/my-journey-to-become-a-ufo-whistleblower-c49?r=5ry66z&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&triedRedirect=true 🔥 Support the show & get bonus content: 🛸 YouTube Memberships: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join 🛸 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast 🛸 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397 🛸 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ 🛸 Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast 📲 Connect with the show: Twitter: @UFOUAPAM Facebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO Podcast YouTube: https://youtube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast Email: UFOUAPAM@gmail.com All links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapam Official Website: https://ThatUFOPodcast.com 👍 Don’t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review — it really helps! Thanks for listening, Andy 🎵 Music Credits: "Girl with the Saucer Eyes" – Adam Goldsack → http://bitly.ws/kvIK
Pre-order my new book: https://geni.us/AtlasOfUFOs In this deep-dive episode, we explore the fast-moving world of UFO/UAP disclosure and the forces shaping it. From the UAP Disclosure Act and upcoming congressional hearings to the politicization of science and the role of mainstream media, we break down how legislation, testimony, and public pressure are converging on one of history’s most profound issues. We cover the challenges faced by witnesses, the recognition long overdue for UFO researchers, and the startling connections between nuclear shutdowns and UAPs. Listener questions and activist perspectives add fresh insight into what disclosure could mean for society, while speculation about non-human intelligence and global efforts point to a future where the truth can no longer be ignored. If you want to understand where the movement stands today—and where it might go next—this is a must-listen. Check out Steve's work: https://paradigmresearchgroup.org/ 🔥 Support the show & get bonus content: 🛸 YouTube Memberships: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join 🛸 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast 🛸 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397 🛸 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ 🛸 Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast 📲 Connect with the show: Twitter: @UFOUAPAM Facebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO Podcast YouTube: https://youtube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast Email: UFOUAPAM@gmail.com All links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapam Official Website: https://ThatUFOPodcast.com 👍 Don’t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review — it really helps! Thanks for listening, Andy 🎵 Music Credits: "Girl with the Saucer Eyes" – Adam Goldsack → http://bitly.ws/kvIK
Pre-order my new book: https://geni.us/AtlasOfUFOs In this episode, Andy interviews Steve Bassett, Executive Director of the Paradigm Research Group, to discuss breaking news with the witness list finally available. UAP Hearing: Witness List & Initial Reactions Venue Significance: Capitol Visitor Center Who Are the Witnesses? George Knapp’s Role & Testimony Firsthand vs. Secondhand Testimony The Truth Embargo: History & Impact The UAP Disclosure Act & Political Context Media, Social Media, and Public Perception The Role of Activism & Legacy Global Disclosure: International Perspectives Check out Steve's work: https://paradigmresearchgroup.org/ 🔥 Support the show & get bonus content: 🛸 YouTube Memberships: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join 🛸 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast 🛸 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397 🛸 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ 🛸 Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast 📲 Connect with the show: Twitter: @UFOUAPAM Facebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO Podcast YouTube: https://youtube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast Email: UFOUAPAM@gmail.com All links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapam Official Website: https://ThatUFOPodcast.com 👍 Don’t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review — it really helps! Thanks for listening, Andy 🎵 Music Credits: "Girl with the Saucer Eyes" – Adam Goldsack → http://bitly.ws/kvIK
**Part 2 of 2** Pre-order my new book: https://geni.us/AtlasOfUFOs With major UFO hearings set for September 9th, 2025 in the US — where military whistleblowers are expected to come forward with their experiences — now’s the perfect time to revisit the reactions to the first historic hearings (2022–2024). In this 2-part series, I’m joined by guests including Jeremy Corbell, Alex Dietrich, Tim McMillan, Dan Zetterstrom, Graeme Rendall, and Klaus, sharing their insights and reactions to these landmark events. Stay tuned for upcoming episodes this month previewing the hearings, reporting on the testimony, and breaking down the fallout. 🔥 Support the show & get bonus content: 🛸 YouTube Memberships: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join 🛸 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast 🛸 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397 🛸 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ 🛸 Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast 📲 Connect with the show: Twitter: @UFOUAPAM Facebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO Podcast YouTube: https://youtube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast Email: UFOUAPAM@gmail.com All links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapam Official Website: https://ThatUFOPodcast.com 👍 Don’t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review — it really helps! Thanks for listening, Andy 🎵 Music Credits: "Girl with the Saucer Eyes" – Adam Goldsack → http://bitly.ws/kvIK
Pre-order my new book: https://geni.us/AtlasOfUFOs With major UFO hearings set for September 9th, 2025 in the US — where military whistleblowers are expected to come forward with their experiences — now’s the perfect time to revisit the reactions to the first historic hearings (2022–2024). In this 2-part series, I’m joined by guests including Jeremy Corbell, Alex Dietrich, Tim McMillan, Dan Zetterstrom, Graeme Rendall, and Klaus, sharing their insights and reactions to these landmark events. Stay tuned for upcoming episodes this month previewing the hearings, reporting on the testimony, and breaking down the fallout. 🔥 Support the show & get bonus content: 🛸 YouTube Memberships: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join 🛸 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast 🛸 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397 🛸 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ 🛸 Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast 📲 Connect with the show: Twitter: @UFOUAPAM Facebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO Podcast YouTube: https://youtube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast Email: UFOUAPAM@gmail.com All links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapam Official Website: https://ThatUFOPodcast.com 👍 Don’t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review — it really helps! Thanks for listening, Andy 🎵 Music Credits: "Girl with the Saucer Eyes" – Adam Goldsack → http://bitly.ws/kvIK
Pre-order my new book: https://geni.us/AtlasOfUFOs Signed Books: https://www.forumbooksshop.com/product/atlas-of-unidentified-flying-objects-and-unidentified-anomalous-phenomena-preorder-signed-dedicated-andy-mcgrillen-9781836006022/12753?cp=true&sa=false&sbp=false&q=false&category_id=36 A packed UFO news update: UAP hearing preview, Matthew Brown’s Immaculate Constellation, Skywatcher developments, the Tic-Tac manual leak, credibility questions, and more. UAP hearing preview (September 9th) Matthew Brown, Immaculate Constellation Skywatcher developments The 'Tic-Tac manual' leak Credibility questions across the UFO field And much more... Stay tuned for insights, listener questions, and updates from across the UFO world. Matthew Brown Substack - https://open.substack.com/pub/sunofabramelin/p/my-journey-to-become-a-ufo-whistleblower?r=tiifj&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&showWelcomeOnShare=false Skywatcher: https://x.com/SkywatcherHQ/status/1957534562957029440 🔥 Support the show & get bonus content: 🛸 YouTube Memberships: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join 🛸 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast 🛸 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397 🛸 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ 🛸 Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast 📲 Connect with the show: Twitter: @UFOUAPAM Facebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO Podcast YouTube: https://youtube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast Email: UFOUAPAM@gmail.com All links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapam Official Website: https://ThatUFOPodcast.com 👍 Don’t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review — it really helps! Thanks for listening, Andy 🎵 Music Credits: "Girl with the Saucer Eyes" – Adam Goldsack → http://bitly.ws/kvIK
**Part 2 of 2** Pre-order my new book: https://geni.us/AtlasOfUFOs We continue our discussion into your listener questions as Pavel, from the Psicoactivo podcast is with me to answer your questions. Civilian Researchers and Technology The Role of the Catholic Church and Secretive Organizations Fear Mongering and Scientific Investigations Psicoactivo: https://www.youtube.com/@psicoactivopodcast 🔥 Support the show & get bonus content: 🛸 YouTube Memberships: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join 🛸 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast 🛸 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397 🛸 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ 🛸 Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast 📲 Connect with the show: Twitter: @UFOUAPAM Facebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO Podcast YouTube: YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast Email: UFOUAPAM@gmail.com All links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapam Official Website: ThatUFOPodcast.com 👍 Don’t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review — it really helps! Thanks for listening, Andy 🎵 Music Credits: "Girl with the Saucer Eyes" – Adam Goldsack → http://bitly.ws/kvIK
With another set of UFO hearings on the horizon for early September, there are a lot of moving parts as first hand witnesses are said to be ready to testify , Skywatcher goes through some potentially major changes & members of Congress argue online with big UFO names. To discuss this and a whole lot more I am enjoyed by Pavel Ibarra, from the Psicoactivo Podcast Current State of UFO Hearings Firsthand Witnesses and Their Impact Potential Witnesses and Their Credibility Skywatcher and Government Involvement New Whistleblower and His Claims Psicoactivo: https://www.youtube.com/@psicoactivopodcast 🔥 Support the show & get bonus content: 🛸 YouTube Memberships: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join 🛸 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast 🛸 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397 🛸 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ 🛸 Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast 📲 Connect with the show: Twitter: @UFOUAPAM Facebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO Podcast YouTube: YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast Email: UFOUAPAM@gmail.com All links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapam Official Website: ThatUFOPodcast.com 👍 Don’t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review — it really helps! Thanks for listening, Andy 🎵 Music Credits: "Girl with the Saucer Eyes" – Adam Goldsack → http://bitly.ws/kvIK
Pre-Order my new book: https://geni.us/AtlasOfUFOs In this episode Will Brown continues to discuss the Nazca mummies and answer your questions! Listener questions and final reflections Questions of authenticity, transparency, and peer review Ancient civilizations, elongated skulls, and cultural practices UFO sightings, artifacts, and potential hoaxes Challenges in academic and online discourse Will's channel: https://www.youtube.com/@incredhistory 🔥 Support the show & get bonus content: 🛸 YouTube Memberships: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join 🛸 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast 🛸 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397 🛸 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ 🛸 Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast 📲 Connect with the show: Twitter: @UFOUAPAM Facebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO Podcast YouTube: YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast Email: UFOUAPAM@gmail.com All links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapam Official Website: ThatUFOPodcast.com 👍 Don’t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review — it really helps! Thanks for listening, Andy 🎵 Music Credits: "Girl with the Saucer Eyes" – Adam Goldsack → http://bitly.ws/kvIK
(Part 1 of 2) Pre-Order my new book: https://geni.us/AtlasOfUFOs In this episode I take another look at the ongoing Nazca Mummies saga with researcher, author, and filmmaker Will Brown. Will shares his firsthand experiences and insights on the controversial Nazca mummies, weaving together tales of elongated skulls, grave robbers, and potential ancient rituals. But, is there a Non-Human explanation? Meet researcher and filmmaker Will Brown The Nazca Mummies: discovery, examination, and controversies Scientific analysis, anomalies, and red flags Historical context, petroglyphs, and the Nazca Lines David Grusch’s influence and credibility in the UFO conversation Political turmoil, speculation, and community debates Scientific investigations and future prospects Will's channel: https://www.youtube.com/@incredhistory 🔥 Support the show & get bonus content: 🛸 YouTube Memberships: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join 🛸 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast 🛸 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397 🛸 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ 🛸 Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast 📲 Connect with the show: Twitter: @UFOUAPAM Facebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO Podcast YouTube: YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast Email: UFOUAPAM@gmail.com All links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapam Official Website: ThatUFOPodcast.com 👍 Don’t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review — it really helps! Thanks for listening, Andy 🎵 Music Credits: "Girl with the Saucer Eyes" – Adam Goldsack → http://bitly.ws/kvIK
*Pre-order my new book: https://geni.us/AtlasOfUFOs * In this episode, Andy discusses the latest UFO stories including comments from Representative Anna Paulina Luna on the Joe Rogan Podcast, intriguing online exchanges between Luna and Lue Elizondo, and the hot topic of a potential alien object nearing Earth. Also included are updates on Ross Coulthart leaving 'Need to Know', the relevance of the Nazca mummies, and listener questions.  Luna on Joe Rogan Key Moments and Claims from the Interview Listener Reactions and Comments to appearance Elizondo and Luna online Exchange Ross Coulthart's Departure from 'Need to Know' Avi Loeb and the Interstellar Object Listener Questions and UFO Discussions Final Thoughts and Announcements 🔥 Support the show & get bonus content: 🛸 YouTube Memberships: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join 🛸 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast 🛸 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397 🛸 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ 🛸 Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast 📲 Connect with the show: Twitter: @UFOUAPAM Facebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO Podcast YouTube: YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast Email: UFOUAPAM@gmail.com All links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapam Official Website: ThatUFOPodcast.com 👍 Don’t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review — it really helps! Thanks for listening, Andy 🎵 Music Credits: "Girl with the Saucer Eyes" – Adam Goldsack → http://bitly.ws/kvIK
** Pre-order my new book: https://geni.us/AtlasOfUFOs ** Retired F-16 pilot Chris Lehto returns to discuss the state of UFO disclosure, the role of whistleblowers, and the growing frustration within the UFO community. We explore the impact of Cmdr. Fravor’s testimony, the decentralization of UFO research, media narratives, and how Chris’s military background shapes his view of the phenomenon. Skywatcher and UFO Phenomenon The Impact of Non-Human Intelligence Disclosure The Role of Governments in Disclosure Historical Analogies and Secrecy Pilot Reports and UAP Stigma The State of UAP Journalism Facing Ontological Shock Hypotheses on the Phenomenon and the Universe Pyramid Discoveries and Advanced Technologies Final Thoughts https://www.youtube.com/@ChrisLehtoF16 🔥 Support the show & get bonus content: 🛸 YouTube Memberships: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join 🛸 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast 🛸 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397 🛸 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ 🛸 Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast 📲 Connect with the show: Twitter: @UFOUAPAM Facebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO Podcast YouTube: YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast Email: UFOUAPAM@gmail.com All links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapam Official Website: ThatUFOPodcast.com 👍 Don’t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review — it really helps! Thanks for listening, Andy 🎵 Music Credits: "Girl with the Saucer Eyes" – Adam Goldsack → http://bitly.ws/kvIK "Goblin Problems" – Sean Cahill → http://bitly.ws/kvIL
** Pre-order my new book: https://geni.us/AtlasOfUFOs ** Retired F-16 pilot Chris Lehto returns to discuss the state of UFO disclosure, the role of whistleblowers, and the growing frustration within the UFO community. We explore the impact of Cmdr. Fravor’s testimony, the decentralization of UFO research, media narratives, and how Chris’s military background shapes his view of the phenomenon. Why disclosure feels stuck — and who might be stalling it Chris Lehto's take on Cmdr. Fravor's testimony The mental toll of following the UFO topic closely Are whistleblowers being silenced or ignored? What decentralised UFO research gets right — and wrong How media narratives shape public perception of the phenomenon Is the stigma around pilots reporting UAPs finally shifting? What disclosure could actually look like — and what it might mean Chris’s thoughts on ancient tech, pyramids, and the universe itself https://www.youtube.com/@ChrisLehtoF16 🔥 Support the show & get bonus content: 🛸 YouTube Memberships: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join 🛸 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast 🛸 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397 🛸 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ 🛸 Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast 📲 Connect with the show: Twitter: @UFOUAPAM Facebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO Podcast YouTube: YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast Email: UFOUAPAM@gmail.com All links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapam Official Website: ThatUFOPodcast.com 👍 Don’t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review — it really helps! Thanks for listening, Andy 🎵 Music Credits: "Girl with the Saucer Eyes" – Adam Goldsack → http://bitly.ws/kvIK "Goblin Problems" – Sean Cahill → http://bitly.ws/kvIL
** Pre-order my new book: https://geni.us/AtlasOfUFOs ** In this episode, returning guest Karen Alexander, a Crop Circle researcher of over 30 years joins me to look at this years new Circles & get into a bit of the history of the subject: Karen Alexander’s Background in Crop Circles What Are Crop Circles Really? Scientific Investigations & Surprising Findings Are Crop Circles a Message or a Mystery? Guidelines for Visiting Crop Circles Can AI Decode Crop Circle Patterns? Doug & Dave: Debunkers or Distraction? Crop Circles, Geometry & Human Consciousness The Truth Behind the Crabwood Alien Circle Are Crop Circles Vanishing — and Why? Links in show: TemporaryTemples.co.uk https://temporarytemples.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/Guide-To-Visiting-Crop-Circles.pdf https://www.cropcirclecenter.com/ https://www.ukcropcircles.co.uk/ 🔥 Support the show & get bonus content: 🛸 YouTube Memberships: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join 🛸 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast 🛸 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397 🛸 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ 🛸 Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast 📲 Connect with the show: Twitter: @UFOUAPAM Facebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO Podcast YouTube: YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast Email: UFOUAPAM@gmail.com All links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapam Official Website: ThatUFOPodcast.com 👍 Don’t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review — it really helps! Thanks for listening, Andy 🎵 Music Credits: "Girl with the Saucer Eyes" – Adam Goldsack → http://bitly.ws/kvIK "Goblin Problems" – Sean Cahill → http://bitly.ws/kvIL
** Pre-order my new book: https://geni.us/AtlasOfUFOs ** In this episode, I sit down with James Hodgkins, one of Skywatchers' psionic assets. We dive deep into the topics of consciousness, psionic phenomena, UFOs, and much more. James shares his personal experiences and thoughts on these subjects as well as his involvement with Sky Watcher. Whistleblowers and Public Disclosure Managing UFO Information Like a PR Campaign David Grusch's Impact and Media Coverage Challenges and Dangers for Whistleblowers Citizen Disclosure and Skywatcher's Role Dr. Beatriz Villaroel and Transient Objects Listener Questions: Craft, Abilities, and Ethics Personal Experiences and Family Impact Ethical Conflicts and Skywatcher's Mission https://x.com/jdhodgkins 🔥 Support the show & get bonus content: 🛸 YouTube Memberships: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join 🛸 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast 🛸 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397 🛸 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ 🛸 Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast 📲 Connect with the show: Twitter: @UFOUAPAM Facebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO Podcast YouTube: YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast Email: UFOUAPAM@gmail.com All links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapam Official Website: ThatUFOPodcast.com 👍 Don’t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review — it really helps! Thanks for listening, Andy 🎵 Music Credits: "Girl with the Saucer Eyes" – Adam Goldsack → http://bitly.ws/kvIK "Goblin Problems" – Sean Cahill → http://bitly.ws/kvIL
** Pre-order my new book: https://geni.us/AtlasOfUFOs ** In this episode, I sit down with James Hodgkins, one of Skywatchers' psionic assets. We dive deep into the topics of consciousness, psionic phenomena, UFOs, and much more. James shares his personal experiences and thoughts on these subjects as well as his involvement with Sky Watcher. 👇 Timestamps: 00:00 Welcome and Guest Introduction 01:00:00 Welcome and Guest Introduction 01:10 Early Psi Experiences & Family UFO Encounters 03:10 Major Contact at 19 & Joining Skywatcher 06:40 Consciousness, Folklore & the Phenomena 15:09 Skywatcher's Journey, Challenges & Transparency 36:47 Psionic Abilities, Inner Voices & Daily Life 48:00 The Nature of UAPs: Craft, Orbs & Thought Forms 01:05:33 Intent, Psychic Phenomena & Manifestation End of Part 1 🔥 Support the show & get bonus content: 🛸 YouTube Memberships: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join 🛸 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast 🛸 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397 🛸 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ 🛸 Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast 📲 Connect with the show: Twitter: @UFOUAPAM Facebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO Podcast YouTube: YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast Email: UFOUAPAM@gmail.com All links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapam Official Website: ThatUFOPodcast.com 👍 Don’t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review — it really helps! Thanks for listening, Andy 🎵 Music Credits: "Girl with the Saucer Eyes" – Adam Goldsack → http://bitly.ws/kvIK "Goblin Problems" – Sean Cahill → http://bitly.ws/kvIL
🎙️ Pre-order Andy’s new book Atlas of UFOs now: https://geni.us/AtlasOfUFOs In this fascinating deep dive, I’m joined by Ivan Hannel — best known as the lawyer representing Luis “Lue” Elizondo, former head of AATIP — for a nearly two-hour conversation that explores the legal, political, and human sides of UFO disclosure. We cover everything from the New York Times article that changed the game, to Ivan’s professional relationship with Elizondo, legal insights into congressional briefings, government secrecy, and… a tease of a potential new whistleblower coming forward. Ivan's Journey: From Law to UFOs Meeting Lue Elizondo The Controversial Congressional Briefing Mistakes in public Suspicion Around UAP Disclosure Act Concerns Over Controlled Disclosure Legal Perspectives on UFO Evidence Government Accountability and Ufology 🔥 Support the show & get bonus content: 🛸 YouTube Memberships: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join 🛸 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast 🛸 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397 🛸 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ 🛸 Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast 📲 Connect with the show: Twitter: @UFOUAPAM Facebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO Podcast YouTube: YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast Email: UFOUAPAM@gmail.com All links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapam Official Website: ThatUFOPodcast.com 👍 Don’t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review — it really helps! Thanks for listening,  Andy 🎵 Music Credits: "Girl with the Saucer Eyes" – Adam Goldsack → http://bitly.ws/kvIK "Goblin Problems" – Sean Cahill → http://bitly.ws/kvIL
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Comments (51)

Ulrike Minecraft

In which the host will say "folks" every single minute.

Jul 20th
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Sound Out

I live in the back arse of Ireland and what I've experienced ain't no US tech. Ross is a funnel for BS like most "jurnos" 😔

Jul 8th
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Sound Out

Thanks Andy for all the great work, always delighted to see a new episode.

Jun 23rd
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kevin

BS

Jun 18th
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Sound Out

So glad to hear Dan again! you guys are the best.

Mar 29th
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SH

love the podcast but I find the sound of it very low - even with the volume full, every other one I listen to is fine.

Jan 3rd
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SH

enjoy the podcast but the volume is so low if you're out and about you can just about hear it even at full volume.

Dec 22nd
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S Gill

is there a youtube version of this podcast?

Jun 6th
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james mcgrew

I'm sorry I think this guy's story is fiction. Toby with bloodshot eyes? Typical stereotype.

Jan 18th
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Jonny Ward

Best podcast on the topic. honest, objective and thoughtful.

Nov 25th
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Rusdin Sobell

this is your worst guest so far

Aug 4th
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r8z77

This guy lost all credibility the moment he mentioned that X15 pilots were to briefed to look for UFOs......those guys were piloting a hypersonic rocket sled and had their attention pretty much focused on keping that amazing machine under control and thus staying alive. Their missions were minutes long.....not hours.

Apr 17th
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Dave S

Interesting guest and episode. I completely agree with the host about the Daily Record- I dislike them too, for similar reasons. Watp.

Mar 18th
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Mark Bentley

Wow Andy, that was one hell of a cliff hanger question lol. Can't wait for the second part! Absolutely fascinating and superb interview 👏 #UAP #UFO #AlienAbduction

Feb 1st
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Farhad Rad

#Mahsa_Amini #Nika_Shakarami #Sarina_Smailzade #Dictator_Governance #Protest #Iran #مهسا_امینی #نیکا_شاکرمی #سارینا_اسماعیل_زاده ✌️✌️✌️

Oct 8th
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Rocky Mountain

What is that cool song?

Oct 8th
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Jenet's Yellin'

is the past really fixed. look up the experiments on retro causality

Aug 21st
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Justin Sforza

John Goat Greenewald Jr is the greatest of all time. Hence his middle name

Aug 17th
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r8z77

I felt tainted after listening to this guest - he struck me as a sniper. I kept getting images of Frank Burns from MASH in my head and I dont know why..... Please change my mind?

Apr 17th
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Mark Bentley

Fantastic interview, a very respectable guest 👏

Mar 16th
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