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Join us in this episode as we take a deep dive into a viral video shared during a recent UAP hearing. Andy welcomes an anonymous guest, a former ammunition technician from the British Army, who shares his expertise on the explosive systems and his analysis of the video. The discussion goes through a detailed breakdown of what might actually be depicted, including the possibility of a Hellfire missile test. Despite wanting to believe in the extraordinary, our guest provides a compelling explanation that might debunk the exciting initial interpretations. Also, hear a personal UFO experience that adds a poignant touch to the conversation.
Introduction and Context
Expert Background and Credentials
Initial Reactions to the Video
Detailed Analysis of the Video
Missile Strike Explanation
Personal UFO Experience
Final Thoughts and Conclusion
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Only 24 hours after the historic UFO hearings in Washington D.C., we dive into the key moments, testimonies, and controversies that emerged.
We cover the witness accounts of Dylan Borland, Chief Alexandro Wiggins, and George Knapp, analyzing what their statements could mean for the broader disclosure conversation. We also look at newly analyzed video footage presented around the hearings, and how it’s shaping public and congressional perception.
Beyond the witness table, we explore the bigger themes: the protections and risks for whistleblowers, the debate around overclassification, transparency in government, and the challenges of navigating controversial figures in the UFO discussion. We also reflect on congressional questioning, political motivations, and what the future may hold for disclosure efforts.
Immediate reactions to the hearing and its significance
Witness testimonies and detailed statements
Whistleblower protections, risks, and government response
Public perception of key figures and media narratives
Transparency, overclassification, and gatekeepers
The role of newly analyzed video footage
Reactions from social media and the disclosure community
Final thoughts on what these hearings mean going forward
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This is my immediate reactions and initial thoughts on todays UAP hearings. Summarising the key statements from witnesses, including former Air Force and Navy personnel, and discussing the new UAP footage displayed during the hearing.
Immediate Reactions
Setting the Scene: Low Expectations
Key Statements and Witnesses
The testimony
5th Witness Surprise Appearance
Intriguing New Video Evidence
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Its the week of the UAP Hearings in Congress, so here is your last update before the big day on the 9th September (link to watch below)
Book Launch Announcement
Upcoming Historic Hearings
Witnesses and Their Backgrounds
Legal Implications of Lying to Congress
Danny Sheen and Whistleblower Protections
Garry Nolan on Joe Rogan
New Paradigm Institute Film
Jake Barber's Interview on Consciousness
Matthew Brown's Substack Series
UFO Leadership Discussion
Upcoming Events and Final Thoughts
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In this deep-dive episode, we explore the fast-moving world of UFO/UAP disclosure and the forces shaping it. From the UAP Disclosure Act and upcoming congressional hearings to the politicization of science and the role of mainstream media, we break down how legislation, testimony, and public pressure are converging on one of history’s most profound issues.
We cover the challenges faced by witnesses, the recognition long overdue for UFO researchers, and the startling connections between nuclear shutdowns and UAPs. Listener questions and activist perspectives add fresh insight into what disclosure could mean for society, while speculation about non-human intelligence and global efforts point to a future where the truth can no longer be ignored.
If you want to understand where the movement stands today—and where it might go next—this is a must-listen.
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In this episode, Andy interviews Steve Bassett, Executive Director of the Paradigm Research Group, to discuss breaking news with the witness list finally available.
UAP Hearing: Witness List & Initial Reactions
Venue Significance: Capitol Visitor Center
Who Are the Witnesses?
George Knapp’s Role & Testimony
Firsthand vs. Secondhand Testimony
The Truth Embargo: History & Impact
The UAP Disclosure Act & Political Context
Media, Social Media, and Public Perception
The Role of Activism & Legacy
Global Disclosure: International Perspectives
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**Part 2 of 2**
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With major UFO hearings set for September 9th, 2025 in the US — where military whistleblowers are expected to come forward with their experiences — now’s the perfect time to revisit the reactions to the first historic hearings (2022–2024).
In this 2-part series, I’m joined by guests including Jeremy Corbell, Alex Dietrich, Tim McMillan, Dan Zetterstrom, Graeme Rendall, and Klaus, sharing their insights and reactions to these landmark events.
Stay tuned for upcoming episodes this month previewing the hearings, reporting on the testimony, and breaking down the fallout.
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With major UFO hearings set for September 9th, 2025 in the US — where military whistleblowers are expected to come forward with their experiences — now’s the perfect time to revisit the reactions to the first historic hearings (2022–2024).
In this 2-part series, I’m joined by guests including Jeremy Corbell, Alex Dietrich, Tim McMillan, Dan Zetterstrom, Graeme Rendall, and Klaus, sharing their insights and reactions to these landmark events.
Stay tuned for upcoming episodes this month previewing the hearings, reporting on the testimony, and breaking down the fallout.
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A packed UFO news update: UAP hearing preview, Matthew Brown’s Immaculate Constellation, Skywatcher developments, the Tic-Tac manual leak, credibility questions, and more.
UAP hearing preview (September 9th)
Matthew Brown, Immaculate Constellation
Skywatcher developments
The 'Tic-Tac manual' leak
Credibility questions across the UFO field
And much more...
Stay tuned for insights, listener questions, and updates from across the UFO world.
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**Part 2 of 2**
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We continue our discussion into your listener questions as Pavel, from the Psicoactivo podcast is with me to answer your questions.
Civilian Researchers and Technology
The Role of the Catholic Church and Secretive Organizations
Fear Mongering and Scientific Investigations
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With another set of UFO hearings on the horizon for early September, there are a lot of moving parts as first hand witnesses are said to be ready to testify , Skywatcher goes through some potentially major changes & members of Congress argue online with big UFO names. To discuss this and a whole lot more I am enjoyed by Pavel Ibarra, from the Psicoactivo Podcast
Current State of UFO Hearings
Firsthand Witnesses and Their Impact
Potential Witnesses and Their Credibility
Skywatcher and Government Involvement
New Whistleblower and His Claims
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In this episode Will Brown continues to discuss the Nazca mummies and answer your questions!
Listener questions and final reflections
Questions of authenticity, transparency, and peer review
Ancient civilizations, elongated skulls, and cultural practices
UFO sightings, artifacts, and potential hoaxes
Challenges in academic and online discourse
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In this episode I take another look at the ongoing Nazca Mummies saga with researcher, author, and filmmaker Will Brown. Will shares his firsthand experiences and insights on the controversial Nazca mummies, weaving together tales of elongated skulls, grave robbers, and potential ancient rituals. But, is there a Non-Human explanation?
Meet researcher and filmmaker Will Brown
The Nazca Mummies: discovery, examination, and controversies
Scientific analysis, anomalies, and red flags
Historical context, petroglyphs, and the Nazca Lines
David Grusch’s influence and credibility in the UFO conversation
Political turmoil, speculation, and community debates
Scientific investigations and future prospects
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In this episode, Andy discusses the latest UFO stories including comments from Representative Anna Paulina Luna on the Joe Rogan Podcast, intriguing online exchanges between Luna and Lue Elizondo, and the hot topic of a potential alien object nearing Earth. Also included are updates on Ross Coulthart leaving 'Need to Know', the relevance of the Nazca mummies, and listener questions.
Luna on Joe Rogan
Key Moments and Claims from the Interview
Listener Reactions and Comments to appearance
Elizondo and Luna online Exchange
Ross Coulthart's Departure from 'Need to Know'
Avi Loeb and the Interstellar Object
Listener Questions and UFO Discussions
Final Thoughts and Announcements
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Retired F-16 pilot Chris Lehto returns to discuss the state of UFO disclosure, the role of whistleblowers, and the growing frustration within the UFO community. We explore the impact of Cmdr. Fravor’s testimony, the decentralization of UFO research, media narratives, and how Chris’s military background shapes his view of the phenomenon.
Skywatcher and UFO Phenomenon
The Impact of Non-Human Intelligence Disclosure
The Role of Governments in Disclosure
Historical Analogies and Secrecy
Pilot Reports and UAP Stigma
The State of UAP Journalism
Facing Ontological Shock
Hypotheses on the Phenomenon and the Universe
Pyramid Discoveries and Advanced Technologies
Final Thoughts
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Retired F-16 pilot Chris Lehto returns to discuss the state of UFO disclosure, the role of whistleblowers, and the growing frustration within the UFO community. We explore the impact of Cmdr. Fravor’s testimony, the decentralization of UFO research, media narratives, and how Chris’s military background shapes his view of the phenomenon.
Why disclosure feels stuck — and who might be stalling it
Chris Lehto's take on Cmdr. Fravor's testimony
The mental toll of following the UFO topic closely
Are whistleblowers being silenced or ignored?
What decentralised UFO research gets right — and wrong
How media narratives shape public perception of the phenomenon
Is the stigma around pilots reporting UAPs finally shifting?
What disclosure could actually look like — and what it might mean
Chris’s thoughts on ancient tech, pyramids, and the universe itself
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In this episode, returning guest Karen Alexander, a Crop Circle researcher of over 30 years joins me to look at this years new Circles & get into a bit of the history of the subject:
Karen Alexander’s Background in Crop Circles
What Are Crop Circles Really?
Scientific Investigations & Surprising Findings
Are Crop Circles a Message or a Mystery?
Guidelines for Visiting Crop Circles
Can AI Decode Crop Circle Patterns?
Doug & Dave: Debunkers or Distraction?
Crop Circles, Geometry & Human Consciousness
The Truth Behind the Crabwood Alien Circle
Are Crop Circles Vanishing — and Why?
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In this episode, I sit down with James Hodgkins, one of Skywatchers' psionic assets. We dive deep into the topics of consciousness, psionic phenomena, UFOs, and much more. James shares his personal experiences and thoughts on these subjects as well as his involvement with Sky Watcher.
Whistleblowers and Public Disclosure
Managing UFO Information Like a PR Campaign
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Dr. Beatriz Villaroel and Transient Objects
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In this episode, I sit down with James Hodgkins, one of Skywatchers' psionic assets. We dive deep into the topics of consciousness, psionic phenomena, UFOs, and much more. James shares his personal experiences and thoughts on these subjects as well as his involvement with Sky Watcher.
👇 Timestamps:
00:00 Welcome and Guest Introduction
01:00:00 Welcome and Guest Introduction
01:10 Early Psi Experiences & Family UFO Encounters
03:10 Major Contact at 19 & Joining Skywatcher
06:40 Consciousness, Folklore & the Phenomena
15:09 Skywatcher's Journey, Challenges & Transparency
36:47 Psionic Abilities, Inner Voices & Daily Life
48:00 The Nature of UAPs: Craft, Orbs & Thought Forms
01:05:33 Intent, Psychic Phenomena & Manifestation
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In this fascinating deep dive, I’m joined by Ivan Hannel — best known as the lawyer representing Luis “Lue” Elizondo, former head of AATIP — for a nearly two-hour conversation that explores the legal, political, and human sides of UFO disclosure.
We cover everything from the New York Times article that changed the game, to Ivan’s professional relationship with Elizondo, legal insights into congressional briefings, government secrecy, and… a tease of a potential new whistleblower coming forward.
Ivan's Journey: From Law to UFOs
Meeting Lue Elizondo
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Suspicion Around UAP Disclosure Act
Concerns Over Controlled Disclosure
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In which the host will say "folks" every single minute.
I live in the back arse of Ireland and what I've experienced ain't no US tech. Ross is a funnel for BS like most "jurnos" 😔
Thanks Andy for all the great work, always delighted to see a new episode.
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So glad to hear Dan again! you guys are the best.
love the podcast but I find the sound of it very low - even with the volume full, every other one I listen to is fine.
enjoy the podcast but the volume is so low if you're out and about you can just about hear it even at full volume.
is there a youtube version of this podcast?
I'm sorry I think this guy's story is fiction. Toby with bloodshot eyes? Typical stereotype.
Best podcast on the topic. honest, objective and thoughtful.
this is your worst guest so far
This guy lost all credibility the moment he mentioned that X15 pilots were to briefed to look for UFOs......those guys were piloting a hypersonic rocket sled and had their attention pretty much focused on keping that amazing machine under control and thus staying alive. Their missions were minutes long.....not hours.
Interesting guest and episode. I completely agree with the host about the Daily Record- I dislike them too, for similar reasons. Watp.
Wow Andy, that was one hell of a cliff hanger question lol. Can't wait for the second part! Absolutely fascinating and superb interview 👏 #UAP #UFO #AlienAbduction
#Mahsa_Amini #Nika_Shakarami #Sarina_Smailzade #Dictator_Governance #Protest #Iran #مهسا_امینی #نیکا_شاکرمی #سارینا_اسماعیل_زاده ✌️✌️✌️
What is that cool song?
is the past really fixed. look up the experiments on retro causality
John Goat Greenewald Jr is the greatest of all time. Hence his middle name
I felt tainted after listening to this guest - he struck me as a sniper. I kept getting images of Frank Burns from MASH in my head and I dont know why..... Please change my mind?
Fantastic interview, a very respectable guest 👏