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Twice a week, this podcast will take you on a smart, direct, sometimes scary, sometimes profane, sometimes hilarious tour of the inner workings of American power and of the impact of our leaders and their policies on our standing in the world. Hosted by noted author and commentator David Rothkopf and featuring regulars Rosa Brooks of Georgetown Law School, Kori Schake of Stanford University and Ed Luce of the Financial Times, the program will be the lively, smart dinner table conversation on the big issues of the day that you wish you were having...without the calories. Sometimes special guests will join the conversation and always the emphasis will be on providing the unvarnished perspectives others shy away from. Deep State Radio is the insider perspective on American national security and foreign policy that you can't find anywhere else.


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On the DSR Daily for Monday, we cover the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau’s stop work order, Trump ordering the Treasury to stop producing pennies, a court blocking Venezuelan immigrants from being sent to Guantanamo, and more.  Looking for More from the DSR Network? Click Here: https://linktr.ee/deepstateradio Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Rage is mounting among President Donald Trump’s allies over the losses that Trump’s agenda has suffered in court, which are clearly becoming a serious obstacle to him. It’s gotten so bad that Elon Musk shared a tweet from someone who suggested that it may be time to defy the courts. Musk also boosted Trump allies who are seething over these rulings. All that amounts to a pretty dark threat from Musk: He and MAGA appear to be steeling themselves to defy judicial rulings. We talked to Norman Eisen of Democracy Defenders Action, who is litigating against Trump, about how successful the legal resistance has been thus far, whether Trump and his allies will defy the courts, and what would happen if they did.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
On the DSR Daily for Friday, we cover Trump sanctioning the ICC, the disastrous effects of diminishing US aid, a judge pausing the deadline for Trump’s federal resignation offer, and more.  Looking for More from the DSR Network? Click Here: https://linktr.ee/deepstateradio Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
President Donald Trump unleashed an angry rant Thursday about the U.S. Agency for International Development. He falsely claimed billions of dollars had been stolen there to fund pro-Democrat media. But only hours later, CNN posted video of Secretary of State Marco Rubio repeatedly praising USAID in the past and describing foreign aid as crucial to U.S. national interests. So what position will Rubio be put in if Trump and Elon Musk continue trying to destroy USAID? We talked to Jeremy Konyndyk, a former USAID official, who explains why Rubio will inevitably clash with Trump and Musk, their dark and unstated reasons for attacking USAID, and why the humanitarian consequences of all this are terrible to contemplate.  Looking for More from the DSR Network? Click Here: https://linktr.ee/deepstateradio Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Trump and his DOGE cronies are continuing to upend and disregard traditional government procedure to illegally push their political agenda. All the while, the Democrats in Congress are asleep at the wheel. David Rothkopf and Norm Ornstein come together to discuss the real question at heart for the Democrats: what are you going to do to stop it? Looking for More from the DSR Network? Click Here: https://linktr.ee/deepstateradio Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
On the DSR Daily for Thursday, we cover a new executive order banning transgender women from women's sports, Israel beginning preparations for relocating large numbers of Palestinians from Gaza as part of President Donald Trump’s plan, and more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Stephen Miller privately worried about imposing overly aggressive tariffs on Mexico, because it could imperil Mexico’s effort to apprehend migrants traveling north to our southern border, reports the Wall Street Journal. That revelation is more striking than you think. Understood correctly, it’s an acknowledgment that Mexico had already been cracking down on migration, due to an arrangement secured by President Biden. That badly undermines Trump’s scam that his threat of tariffs forced Mexico to do his bidding on the border.  We talked to Adam Isacson, an expert on Latin America, who explains what Mexico has actually been doing on immigration, and why it undercuts Trump’s biggest claims about immigration, tariffs, Mexico, and more. Looking for More from the DSR Network? Click Here: https://linktr.ee/deepstateradio Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
The Trump administration is dismantling the government at a prodigious rate. With the near total destruction of USAID, CIA officials being offered payouts, and more, it’s clear that the administration has one goal in mind. So what happens to America? Rosa Brooks and Kori Schake join David Rothkopf to discuss this cataclysmic shift in US politics and how we can do our part to stem the tide of destruction.  Looking for More from the DSR Network? Click Here: https://linktr.ee/deepstateradio Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
On the DSR Daily for Wednesday, we break down Trump’s proposal for the US to take over the Gaza Strip, all USAID staff being placed on administrative leave, the first deportation flight to India, and more.  Looking for More from the DSR Network? Click Here: https://linktr.ee/deepstateradio Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
As Elon Musk’s government takeover continues, Representative Jamie Raskin has been sounding a particularly urgent alarm. And during a Twitter fight between the two, Raskin asked Musk a simple question: As someone who supposedly works for the government now, will he submit to basic financial disclosure and conflict-of-interest rules? This got us thinking: Why are we treating the idea that Musk should submit to these rules as a fool’s errand? Let’s demand it! We talked to election law expert Andy Craig, a fellow at the Institute for Humane Studies and author of a new piece for The Unpopulist on Musk’s power grabs. He explains how lawless Musk has gotten, why it’s so important for lawmakers like Raskin to speak out, and how public resistance might have a real impact.  Looking for More from the DSR Network? Click Here: https://linktr.ee/deepstateradio Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
On this week's episode - the final episode of Above Average Intelligence - former Danish Defense Intelligence Service senior officer Jacob Kaarsbo (@jkaarsbo.bsky.social) (@JKaarsbo) joins @mpolymer to discuss “Why Greenland?”, plus how Europe must focus now on a security regime without US leadership. Always great to hear from allied intel pros, given the huge global challenges in 2025. Tune in here. Looking for More from the DSR Network? Click Here: https://linktr.ee/deepstateradio Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
On the DSR Daily for Tuesday, we discuss Trump suspending tariffs on Mexico and Canada, the nomination process for Tulsi Gabbard and RFK Jr., Trump’s proposed plan to buy TikTok, and more.  Looking for More from the DSR Network? Click Here: https://linktr.ee/deepstateradio Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
President Trump has empowered Elon Musk to undertake a gutting of the U.S. Agency for International Development that is pretty clearly illegal. And this week, on numerous fronts, this has suddenly become a much bigger scandal. First, Musk’s Department of Government Efficiency took over the agency and locked its workers out of internal systems. Then Musk confirmed that Trump had agreed with him that the agency must be shut down. On Monday, Democratic lawmakers denounced the illegality of these moves, showing up at USAID offices to protest. We talked to one of those Democrats, Representative Don Beyer, about why the Trump-Musk assault is illegal and how Democrats can resist it. Looking for More from the DSR Network? Click Here: https://linktr.ee/deepstateradio Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Artificial Intelligence doesn’t just impact Silicon Valley tech bros and college students trying to write a paper at the last minute. It has broad implications for industry, trade, international policy, and beyond. Dr. Susan Ariel Aaronson joins David Rothkopf to break down the missteps of the Biden and Trump administrations’ handling of AI and why international cooperation is the only way to create artificial intelligence that benefits everyone.  Looking for More from the DSR Network? Click Here: https://linktr.ee/deepstateradio This material is distributed by TRG Advisory Services, LLC on behalf of the Embassy of the United Arab Emirates in the U.S.. Additional information is available at the Department of Justice, Washington, DC. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
On the DSR Daily for Monday, we cover the world preparing for Trump’s promised tariffs, the administration’s crusade against USAID, Secretary Rubio’s visit to Panama, and more.  Looking for More from the DSR Network? Click Here: https://linktr.ee/deepstateradio Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
After President Donald Trump announced 25 percent tariffs on most goods from Canada and Mexico and 10 percent tariffs on China, he unleashed some angry, ranting tweets about the move, with his ire at Canada growing particularly unsettling. This comes amid new indications that many Republicans are suffering high “anxiety” about Trump’s presidency. So what is the likelihood that Trump’s allies in the GOP and the corporate world will step up and challenge this madness? We talked to Cathy Young, a staff writer at The Bulwark who’s written on these issues, about why the very fact that Trump seems so unhinged and unshackled could lead them to muzzle themselves—and why that makes this moment more perilous.  Looking for More from the DSR Network? Click Here: https://linktr.ee/deepstateradio Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Original air date: January 18, 2023 Davos may attract some of the world's wealthiest people but DSR continues to attract the best foreign policy and national security thinkers and analysis. David Rothkopf talks with David Sanger of the New York Times and Rosa Brooks of Georgetown University about Kissinger's remarks at Davos and other foreign policy issues cropping up around the world. Should Ukraine join NATO? Will Sweden and Finland actually join NATO? How should the U.S. handle the new (old) government in Israel? Find out in this wide-ranging conversation. Don't miss it. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Original air date: January 10, 2023 While there is chaos in the U.S. House of Representatives, there are real threats looming in the background. David Rothkopf talks about those threats with Max Boot of the Washington Post and Rosa Brooks of Georgetown University. How should the U.S. support Taiwan in the coming months? Is China likely to invade? What connects the riots in Brazil to January 6th? Find out during this enlightening conversation. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
This week, the Bulletin of Atomic Scientists released its annual Doomsday Clock, counting down to the estimated likelihood of human-made catastrophe - this year, the clock sits at 89 seconds. To break down the clock, how the time is chosen, and why it is the closest to catastrophe it’s ever been, Jon is joined by fellow Bulletin members Steven Miller, Daniel Holz, and Reja Younis. Tune in here:  Looking for More from the DSR Network? Click Here: https://linktr.ee/deepstateradio Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
On the DSR Daily for Friday, we break down the Kash Patel and Tulsi Gabbard hearings, Trump’s sagging approval, grim news from the Washington plane crash, and more.  Looking for More from the DSR Network? Click Here: https://linktr.ee/deepstateradio Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Comments (39)

Peter Bakes

Democrats should vote in favor of Trump and Republican policy to expose all flaws in their rhetoric and agenda. All those Republican business owners who voted for Trump should deal with the consequences of their voting behaviour by losing their lowly paid migrant workforce. Time to pay people an honest wage for dangerous work like construction stop exploiting the migrant population, Accept them as immigrants, offer them citizenship.

Dec 12th
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Adam Balogh

shits bout to get real fucky... fuckers.... fuck offs are comin.... fuck you.... 😊😊😊😊

Dec 7th
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Michael Dabo

Trump has reviewed to me personally of his good intention of bringing eternal lasting peace solution in the middle. I believe he had the technical mechanism to solve the problem and bring lasting peace and prosperity I the Middle East

Dec 4th
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Michael Dabo

Americans voted for him to do what they wanted,and he is doing just that by assembling men who would help him revive the economy and American standing in the world

Dec 4th
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Adam Balogh

only dumb ass old people take trump seriously...

Oct 21st
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Cindy Byrne

the DSR Daily team needs to discover baby goats.

Oct 16th
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Gloria Klapstein

Kim Campbell was a female Canadian Prime Minister

Jun 3rd
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Adam Balogh

marjorie trailer green... trump... republicans in general !!! can someone tell me how in the FUCK do these ass hole moron stupid people get in positions of power ??? wtf ???

Apr 13th
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Adam Balogh

does anyone honestly takes marjori e seriously??? i mean come on shes an ass clown !!!

Mar 27th
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Feb 5th
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ID23058055

Communist anti gun fake woke motherfuckers unsubscribing. The second Amendment is full blown pro gun dumbshit! Actually research history vs read political bullshit.

Mar 20th
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Roger Ballmer

what a is the "quad?"

Aug 24th
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Jared Krumm

just be upfront about your lefty bias. Put it in the title even, "what you REALLY need to know as a leftist." It's called deep state and how much time has been spent on your sides capture of the CIA, FBI, DOJ, and DOD. if you have spent less than two hours explaining how a president was impeached because of a document originating from his opponents oppo research and ONLY that then you may as well title the cast "all things vegetable" while talking about everything other than vegetables.

Jul 1st
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Shai

why does Jeff Stein say 9-1-1 as opposed to 9/11?

Sep 4th
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Gary Feldman

Fantastic show!

Sep 4th
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Joe Stutzman

This guy's voice sounds like John Malkovich.

Jun 13th
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average dinosaur

'Reach into other countries' politics'?! you mean chile, Afghanistan, Argentina and all the other countries that wanted us to fuck off and stay out of their business??

Jan 4th
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Shai

vale John le Carré

Dec 15th
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James Knight

Biden reincarnating the wonder years of the past failed Democratic rule should really get a wonderful future. Good luck, America.

Nov 23rd
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Jarred Vandenberg

this shit is propaganda. unsubscribed

Sep 8th
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