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The Incomparable Mothership
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The Incomparable Mothership is the flagship of the Incomparable podcast network. It’s all about geeky media we love, including movies, books, TV, and more, featuring a rotating panel of guests and hosted by Jason Snell and friends.
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It’s autumn, things are turning dark and gray, and that puts us in the mind of… (fictional) murder! Want a mystery novel, or series, to read? Our expert readers have many, many suggestions for you.
Mystery Reading List
Jason Snell with Jean MacDonald, Antony Johnston, David J. Loehr, Scott McNulty, Sandra Wong and Annette Wierstra
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Suggestions
Jean: The Crow Trap by Ann Cleeves (Vera Stanhope)
Antony: Midnight at Malabar House by Vaseem Khan (Malabar House)
David: Fortune Favors the Dead by Stephen Spottswood (Pentacost and Parker)
Scott: The Man With a Load of Mischief by Martha Grimes (Richard Jury)
Sandra: A Study in Scarlet Women by Sherry Thomas (Lady Sherlock)
Annette: Artifact by Gigi Pandian (Jaya Jones Treasure Hunt)
Jason: Strike Three, You’re Dead by R.D. Rosen (Harvey Blissberg)
Jean: A Test of Wills by Charles Todd (Inspector Ian Rutledge)
Antony: The Appeal by Janice Hallett
David: The Deep Blue Good-By by John D. McDonald (Travis McGee)
Scott: A Grim Reaper’s Guide to Catching a Killer by Maxie Dara (S.C.Y.T.H.E.)
Sandra: Hide by Tracy Clark (Detective Harriet Foster)
Annette: A Curious Beginning by Deanna Raybourn (Veronica Speedwell)
Jason: The Mimicking of Known Successes by Malka Older (Mossa and Pleiti)
Jean: The Shape of Water by Andrea Camilleri (Commissario Montalbano)
Antony: Ghosts of Belfast/The Twelve by Stuart Neville (Jack Lennon)
David: The Hot Rock by Donald E. Westlake (Dortmunder)
Scott: A Death in Door County by Annelise Ryan (Monster Hunter)
Sandra: Secret Identity by Alex Segura (Secret Identity)
Annette: The Spare Man by Mary Robinette Kowal
Jason: Witness for the Dead by Katherine Addison (Cemeteries of Amalo)
Leftover suggestions
Jean: Sue Grafton, Sarah Peretsky, Laura Lippman, Walter Mosley
Antony: Three Dahlias by Katy Watson, Man on the Street by Trevor Wood, Dark Horizon by James Swallow, In the Blink of an Eye by Jo Callaghan, City of Vengeance by D.V. Bishop (Cesare Aldo)
David: Fletch by Gregory Mcdonald, American Mystery Classics (ed. by Otto Penzler), The Dog-Sitter Detective by Antony Johnston, Suburban Dicks by Fabian Nicieza, Murder Takes a Vacation by Laura Lippman
Scott: Jack Taylor Series by Ken Bruen, Barker & Llewelyn by Will Thomas, Roma Sub Rosa by Steven Saylor, Athenian Mysteries by Gary Corby
Sandra: Death at Greenway by Lori Rader-Day, Time’s Undoing by Cheryl Head, Japantown Series by Naomi Hirahara, Tita Rosie’s Kitchen by Mia P. Manansala, Garden Squad Mysteries by Julia Henry, Like a Sister and Missing White Woman by Kelly Garrett, Her Name is Knight by Yasmin Angoe (Nena Knight), Everything by S.A. Cosby, Crime Writers of Color, Queer Crime Writers
Annette: In the Dark We Forget and Lola Starke Series by SG Wong, Die for Love by Elizabeth Peters, Magical Fortune Cookie Mysteries, Grave Expectations by Alice Bell
Jason: Titanium Noir by Nick Harkaway (Cal Sounder), The Last Policeman by Ben H. Winters (Last Policeman), Yiddish Policemen’s Union by Michael Chabon, Thursday Murder Club by Richard Osman (Thursday Murder Club)
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Grab your cyberspace deck and prepare to jack in—it’s time to discuss William Gibson’s groundbreaking classic novel, “Neuromancer.” We’ve got a panel of experts—and a first-timer!—ready to discuss how 1984’s future looks from the perspective of 2025’s present.
"Neuromancer"
Jason Snell with Antony Johnston, Lisa Schmeiser, Glenn Fleishman and Erika Ensign
Referenced Works
Neuromancer
[Amazon] [Apple]
Show Notes & Links
Dead Channel: Music Inspired by William Gibson's Neuromancer by Silencaeon (Antony)
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We always knew Daniel Dae Kim would accomplish something after “Crusade!” (Kids, ask your “Babylon 5”-loving parents.) Our panel looks back over the three-month phenomenon that has been Netflix’s “KPop Demon Hunters” and gives you reasons to watch it if you’re dispositionally averse to KPop, youth-friendly animation, or popular things. Behind the Spoiler Horn, we dive into how well the story and songs work together, whether it’s an animation breakthrough, the future of the wait-is-this-a-franchise, and what could have been better. (John Siracusa: “NOW you’re singing MY song!”)
"KPop Demon Hunters"
Chip Sudderth with James Thomson, Shannon Sudderth, John Siracusa and Lisa Schmeiser
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KPop Demon Hunters
Show Notes & Links
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The Summer of Submarines reaches crush depth with Disney’s 1954 epic “20,000 Leagues Under the Sea.” Captain Nemo of the Nautilus has met his match in an uncharismatic French professor, his strangely familiar associate, and their sidekick, a violent harpoonist and occasional cabaret performer. Also there’s a giant squid. Everyone remembers the giant squid—and for good reason!
"20,000 Leagues Under the Sea"
Jason Snell with Monty Ashley, Erika Ensign, Shelly Brisbin, Philip Michaels and David J. Loehr
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20,000 Leagues Under the Sea
Submarines
Show Notes & Links
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Our Summer of Submarines floats on with “U-571”, a 21st centry-style action movie that manages to hit most of the squares on the submarine bingo card. McConaughey is a disgruntled XO! Depth charges terrify! A surprising twist if you didn’t think about the title! Turns out, submarine movies aren’t a genre—they’re a format that lets filmmakers explore genres.
"U-571"
Jason Snell with Erika Ensign, Casey Liss and Moisés Chiullán
Referenced Works
Submarines
U-571
Show Notes & Links
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We dive beneath the sea again with “K-19: The Widowmaker,” in which Harrison Ford and Liam Neeson star as… wait a second… Soviet naval officers? It’s a film about a horrible nuclear accident assembled from pieces of other submarine movies, as well as possibly several “Star Trek” movies, and we can’t decide if the screenplay or the casting is more of a problem. But finally we’ll get to the bottom of the real question: if most of the crewmen aren’t married, can K-19 really be a widowmaker?
"K-19: The Widowmaker"
Jason Snell with Erika Ensign, Philip Michaels, Steven Schapansky, Brian Warren and Tony Sindelar
Referenced Works
K-19: The Widowmaker
Submarines
Show Notes & Links
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The Summer of Submarines resurfaces with James Garner going on a secret mission to an enemy island in 1959’s “Up Periscope.” The Skipper is not a skipper, but he’s got some interesting romantic ideas. Some scenes are impressively bad from multiple angles. And we realize that we’re starting to get good at this submarine-movie business, maybe?
Up Periscope (1959)
Jason Snell with Philip Michaels, Shelly Brisbin, David J. Loehr and Erika Ensign
Referenced Works
Up Periscope (1959)
Submarines
Show Notes & Links
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We return to 1995 not to hack into the Net but to wander, Netless, around Vienna with Ethan Hawke and Julie Delpy. Palm readers! Street poets! Plays featuring cows! It’s “Before Sunrise,” a movie in which nothing happens… except maybe the most extraordinary thing in two people’s lives.
"Before Sunrise" (1995)
Jason Snell with Brian Hamilton, Erika Ensign, Annette Wierstra and Steven Schapansky
Referenced Works
Before Sunrise
Show Notes & Links
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Our Awards Book Club closes up shop for 2025 with a final set of rankings, the presentation of an award we made up, and an overview of all the Hugo-nominated short fiction.
Awards Book Club final rankings and Hugo short fiction
Jason Snell with Erika Ensign, Scott McNulty, Aleen Simms and Heather Berberet
Show Notes & Links
What Are We Reading?
Scott: How to Solve Your Own Murder
Erika: Swordheart, Throne of Glass series specifically Heir of Fire
Heather: Dungeon Crawler Carl
Aleen: When Women Were Dragons, Lake of Souls
Jason: The Fourth Consort by Edward Ashton, Automatic Noodle by Annalee Newitz
The Incomparable Award
Service Model (4 first-place votes, 2.0 average placement)
The Tainted Cup (3.4)
Someone You Can Build a Nest In (1, 4.0)
A Sorceress Comes to Call (4.4)
Alien Clay (5.0)
The Ministry of Time (5.8)
Asunder / The Book of Love (tie) (6.4)
Rakesfall (8.6)
Sleeping Worlds Have No Memory (9)
The Short Fiction
Novella
“The Brides of High Hill” by Nghi Vo (Tordotcom)
“The Butcher of the Forest” by Premee Mohamed (Tordotcom)
“Navigational Entanglements” by Aliette de Bodard (Tordotcom)
“The Practice, the Horizon, and the Chain” by Sofia Samatar (Tordotcom)
“The Tusks of Extinction” by Ray Nayler (Tordotcom)
“What Feasts at Night” by T. Kingfisher (Nightfire)
Novelette
“The Brotherhood of Montague St. Video” by Thomas Ha (Clarkesworld)
“By Salt, By Sea, By Light of Stars” by Premee Mohamed (Strange Horizons)
“The Four Sisters Overlooking the Sea” by Naomi Kritzer (Asimov’s)
“Lake of Souls” by Ann Leckie (in Lake of Souls)
“Loneliness Universe” by Eugenia Triantafyllou (Uncanny)
“Signs of Life” by Sarah Pinsker (Uncanny)
Short Story
“Five Views of the Planet Tartarus” by Rachael K. Jones (Lightspeed)
“Marginalia” by Mary Robinette Kowal (Uncanny)
“Stitched to Skin Like Family Is” by Nghi Vo (Uncanny)
“Three Faces of a Beheading” by Arkady Martine (Uncanny)
“We Will Teach You How to Read | We Will Teach You How to Read” by Caroline M Yoachim (Lightspeed)
“Why Don’t We Just Kill the Kid in the Omelas Hole” by Isabel J Kim (Clarkesworld)
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We celebrate the tenth anniversary of our Summer Superhero Spectacular tournament with something slightly different: A draft of our favorite superhero movies.
Superhero Movie Draft
Jason Snell with Andy Ihnatko, Chip Sudderth, James Thomson, Annette Wierstra, Tony Sindelar, Moisés Chiullán and David J. Loehr
Show Notes & Links
Tony - Batman Begins (2005)
James - Birds of Prey: And the Fantabulous Emancipation of One Harley Quinn (2020)
David - The LEGO Batman Movie (2017)
Annette - Wonder Woman (2017)
Moises - Superman (2025)
Andy - The Incredibles (2004)
Chip - Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse (2018)
Jason - Unbreakable (2000)
Tony - Iron Man (2008)
James - Dredd (2012)
David - The Shadow (1994)
Annette - Batman (1989)
Moises - Blade (1998)
Andy - Watchmen (2009)
Chip - Guardians of the Galaxy (2014)
Jason - Megamind (2010)
Tony - Hellboy (2004)
James - Captain Marvel (2019)
David - The Rocketeer (1991)
Annette - The Marvels (2023)
Moises - Roger Corman’s Fantastic Four (1994)
Andy - Nine Superman Fleisher Shorts (1941)
Chip - Black Panther (2018)
Jason - Captain America: The First Avenger (2011)
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2025 Awards Book Club nears the end with award nominees “Asunder,” “The Ministry of Time,” and “The Tainted Cup.” Plus: What else are we reading?
2025 Awards Book Club, part 3
Jason Snell with Scott McNulty, Erika Ensign, Aleen Simms and Heather Berberet
Referenced Works
Asunder
[Amazon] [Apple]
The Ministry of Time
[Amazon] [Apple]
The Tainted Cup
[Amazon] [Apple]
Show Notes & Links
What are we reading?
Aleen: Sounds Like Love and Saint Death’s Daughter
Erika: The Assassin’s Blade and Moonstorm
Heather: When Women Were Dragons and Atmosphere
Scott: Shroud
Jason: Shroud, and also the Barker & Llewellyn series
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We went to the theater to see James Gunn’s “Superman” (2025) and are back to report about the pleasant experience. Gunn sets a new direction for DC superheroes, and fans of Zack Snyder may want to look elsewhere. From Krypto the Superdog to a surprising squirrel save, from The Marvelous Miss Lane to that Elemento guy, we’ll break the whole thing down.
"Superman" (2025)
Jason Snell with Tony Sindelar, Dan Moren, Shannon Sudderth, Chip Sudderth and Brian Warren
Referenced Works
Superman (2025)
Show Notes & Links
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We remain submerged for a very long time to watch a very long film, 1981’s “Das Boot.” This certifiable classic is certainly long and German, encompassing almost everything you might expect in the genre. There’s action, suspense, a lot of character moments, and long periods of tedium spent listening for bad sounds, punctuated by moments of terror as the boat goes to eleven (and beyond).
"Das Boot" (1981)
Jason Snell with Erika Ensign, Brian Warren, Casey Liss, Dan Moren and Philip Michaels
Referenced Works
Das Boot
Submarines
Show Notes & Links
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The Summer of Submarines joins forces with Old Movie Club to take on 1958’s “Run Silent, Run Deep,” starring Clark Gable and Burt Lancaster. It’s a tense thriller that has inspired sub and sci-fi movies for many decades. Erika’s gleeful reaction to the film’s abrupt ending may surprise you!
"Run Silent, Run Deep" (1958)
Jason Snell with Erika Ensign, Philip Michaels, Shelly Brisbin, Dan Moren and Casey Liss
Referenced Works
Run Silent, Run Deep
Submarines
Show Notes & Links
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The summer of submarines kicks off with 1995’s “Crimson Tide,” a taut character drama that pits a captain (Gene Hackman) against his XO (Denzel Washington) in a conflict that escalates as global tensions rise outside their nuclear submarine.
"Crimson Tide"
Jason Snell with Philip Michaels, Lisa Schmeiser, Dan Moren, Casey Liss and Erika Ensign
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Referenced Works
Crimson Tide
Submarines
Show Notes & Links
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With the guiding hand of Prof. Siracusa choosing the curriculum, we watch select animated shorts from the Netflix series “Love, Death + Robots.” John’s quest to find the perfect photorealistic CGI animation continues. Tony does his companions a solid if he’s ever killed on a moon. The others debate if they represent love, death, or robots. We try to reconnect with our inner pool-polishing robots. It’s a real team effort.
"Love, Death + Robots"
Jason Snell with John Siracusa, Annette Wierstra, Brian Hamilton and Tony Sindelar
Referenced Works
Love, Death and Robots
Show Notes & Links
Here’s the viewing list for the Love, Death & Robots episode of The Incomparable.
“Sonnie’s Edge” (Season 1, Episode 1) 17m
“Lucky 13” (Season 1, Episode 13) 15m
“Zima Blue” (Season 1, Episode 14) 11m
“Bad Travelling” (Season 3, Episode 2) 22m
“The Very Pulse of the Machine” (Season 3, Episode 3) 17m
“Swarm” (Season 3, Episode 6) 17m
“Golgotha” (Season 4, Episode 6) 10m
Plus one (optional) upsetting bonus episode:
“Jibaro” (Season 3, Episode 9) 17m
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The second (and final?) season of the BBC/Disney+ collaboration era of “Doctor Who” is at an end, and so our crew of fans is here to pick up the pieces and ponder what went right and (unfortunately) what went wrong. Where does this franchise go from here?
"Doctor Who" season 2 wrap-up
Jason Snell with Steven Schapansky, Erika Ensign, Chip Sudderth, Annette Wierstra and Heather Berberet
Referenced Works
Doctor Who
[Amazon]
Show Notes & Links
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We conclude (for now?) our coverage of the TV adaptation of The Wheel of Time, which was just canceled by Amazon. Three seasons in, we cover whether we think it is still worth watching despite cancellation (we do) and how well the show’s third (and final?) season fulfills the promise of it coming into its power.
"The Wheel of Time" season 3
Moisés Chiullán with Sarah Hendrica Bickerton, Heather Berberet, Bryan Guffey and Kathy Campbell
Referenced Works
The Wheel of Time
Show Notes & Links
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Our Awards Book Club continues its run through the roses with a tougher than expected review of Vajra Chandrasekera’s “Rakesfall,” Adrian Tchaikovsky’s “Alien Clay,” and Kelly Link’s “The Book of Love.”
2025 Awards Book Club, part 2
Jason Snell with Scott McNulty, Aleen Simms and Erika Ensign
Referenced Works
Rakesfall
[Amazon]
Alien Clay
[Amazon]
The Book of Love
[Amazon]
Show Notes & Links
What are we reading?
Scott: Strong Female Character by Fern Brady, The Melancholy of Untold History by Minsu Kang, Making History by KJ Parker
Aleen: Dauntless Path series by Intisar Khanani
Erika: Clockwork Boys by T. Kingfisher
Jason: The Thursday Murder Club by Richard Osman, Termination Shock by Neal Stephenson
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Guillermo del Toro’s career started small, with the small-scale vampire (sort of) horror (sort of?) movie “Cronos,” in which an old man finds a mechanical object containing a magical bug that gives him eternal life in the bad way. Meanwhile, young Ron Perlman hates his evil uncle but continues to do his bidding! It’s a fun 1992 throwback that is still recognizeably del Toro.
"Cronos" (1992)
Jason Snell with Steve Lutz, Moisés Chiullán and Tony Sindelar
Referenced Works
Cronos
Show Notes & Links
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