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A little show about big ideas. From the people who make Planet Money, The Indicator helps you make sense of what's happening today. It's a quick hit of insight into work, business, the economy, and everything else. Listen weekday afternoons.

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On this Indicators of the Week, we take you to a Manhattan bar to watch NVIDIA's latest earnings reports. Plus, how publishers are trying to keep their books in Florida school libraries and what private equity is doing in Football. Related episodes:The tower of NVIDIA (Apple / Spotify) What do private equity firms actually do? For sponsor-free episodes of The Indicator from Planet Money, subscribe to Planet Money+ via Apple Podcasts or at plus.npr.org. Music by Drop Electric. Find us: TikTok, Instagram, Facebook, Newsletter. Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy
While the 2024 Paris Olympics are over for some athletes, many competitors are still seeking to capitalize on their fame back on their college campuses. Thanks to the NCAA's 2021 rule changes for Name, Image and Likeness, college athletes are now able to leverage their stardom to maximize their earning potential. Today on the show, we talk to University of Michigan men's gymnastics star and Olympic medalist Frederick Richard about how he's playing the business game for the long term. Related episodes:Why the Olympics cost so much (Apple / Spotify)You can't spell Olympics without IP (Apple / Spotify)The monetization of college sports (Apple / Spotify)For sponsor-free episodes of The Indicator from Planet Money, subscribe to Planet Money+ via Apple Podcasts or at plus.npr.org.Music by Drop Electric. Find us: TikTok, Instagram, Facebook, Newsletter. Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy
Even with falling interest rates in recent weeks, mortgage rates are still higher than you'd expect. Mortgage interest rates are usually a little less than two percentage points higher than what you would get on a 10-year Treasury bond. But for the last couple of years that difference has been noticeably higher: 2.6% at the moment. New borrowers have been paying potentially thousands of dollars extra each year on their mortgages. Today on the show, how mortgage interest rates work and why they're currently out of whack ... with new borrowers footing the bill. Related Episodes: Are both rents AND interest rates too dang high? How mortgage rates get made The rat under the Fed's hat AP Macro gets a makeover For sponsor-free episodes of The Indicator from Planet Money, subscribe to Planet Money+ via Apple Podcasts or at plus.npr.org. Music by Drop Electric. Find us: TikTok, Instagram, Facebook, Newsletter. Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy
When Shi Zhengrong started making solar panels at the turn of the century, there was basically no solar industry in China. But in the decades that followed, the nation started heavily investing in renewables. Today, we dig into how China became a leader in solar power while following the story of one man: the Sun King.Related episodes:Rooftop solar's dark side (Apple / Spotify) The debate at the heart of new electricity transmission (Apple / Spotify) For sponsor-free episodes of The Indicator from Planet Money, subscribe to Planet Money+ via Apple Podcasts or at plus.npr.org. Music by Drop Electric. Find us: TikTok, Instagram, Facebook, Newsletter. Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy
The ascendance of Democratic vice presidential candidate Tim Walz has made the topic of free school lunch a political flashpoint. Over the past several years, several states—including Walz's home state of Minnesota—have created free school lunch programs, to the dismay of some House Republicans who believe government subsidies should go only to needy students.Today on the show, we break down the economics of school lunch and explore whether universal programs are more effective than targeted programs.For sponsor-free episodes of The Indicator from Planet Money, subscribe to Planet Money+ via Apple Podcasts or at plus.npr.org.Music by Drop Electric. Find us: TikTok, Instagram, Facebook, Newsletter. Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy
Welcome to another edition of Indicators of the Week! On today's show, the large downward revision to jobs numbers, the awkward release of that news and a survey that asks U.S. workers for the minimum salary they would accept a new job for. Related listening: Getting more men into so-called pink collar jobs (Apple / Spotify) Do I need a four-year degree? (Apple / Spotify) Indicator exploder: jobs and inflation Our 2023 Valentines For sponsor-free episodes of The Indicator from Planet Money, subscribe to Planet Money+ via Apple Podcasts or at plus.npr.org. Music by Drop Electric. Find us: TikTok, Instagram, Facebook, Newsletter. Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy
Earlier this month, the White House unveiled a new initiative aimed at trying to serve and protect American consumers: Time is Money.It's an array of actions the Biden Harris administration is taking to stomp out business processes that waste consumers time and money, like, for example, making it unnecessarily difficult to cancel a subscription, get an airline ticket refund, or file an insurance claim.On today's episode: In a competitive market, companies want to treat their customers well or else they'll lose their customers to competitors ... so why does the White House want to intervene in this area of the free market?Related Episode:Junk fees, unfilled jobs, jackpotFor sponsor-free episodes of The Indicator from Planet Money, subscribe to Planet Money+ via Apple Podcasts or at plus.npr.org. Music by Drop Electric. Find us: TikTok, Instagram, Facebook, Newsletter. Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy
Like several aspects of the travel economy, renting a car is more expensive than it was before the pandemic. Today on the show, we explore the great reset happening in the U.S. rental car industry that's kept prices elevated, left fleets leaner, and customers frustrated.Related episodes:The semiconductor shortage (still) Offloading EVs, vacating offices and reaping windfallsFor sponsor-free episodes of The Indicator from Planet Money, subscribe to Planet Money+ via Apple Podcasts or at plus.npr.org. Music by Drop Electric. Find us: TikTok, Instagram, Facebook, Newsletter.Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy
By now, you've probably heard a lot from both presidential nominees about getting rid of taxes on tips.The idea may sound good on first go, but it has its detractors, namely economists and tax experts. Their fears include unfairness and people gaming the system. On today's episode, how to put in place guardrails for a policy that many economists believe is likely to go off the rails. Related episode: Why Americans Can't Quit TippingFor sponsor-free episodes of The Indicator from Planet Money, subscribe to Planet Money+ via Apple Podcasts or at plus.npr.org.Music by Drop Electric. Find us: TikTok, Instagram, Facebook, Newsletter. Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy
Unlimited paid time off may sound like a nice perk, but it's not always what it appears. Employers aren't typically obligated to pay out unused vacation balances when a worker leaves, and it can be hard for workers to understand just how much time they can actually take off. And yet ... endless leave?? It doesn't sound so bad.Today on the show, is unlimited paid time off really a benefit? We try to figure out whether it works. Related episodes: Vacation, and why the U.S. takes so little of it (Apple / Spotify) The 28-Hour Work Week For sponsor-free episodes of The Indicator from Planet Money, subscribe to Planet Money+ via Apple Podcasts or at plus.npr.org. Music by Drop Electric. Find us: TikTok, Instagram, Facebook, Newsletter. Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy
It's ... Indicators of the Week! We cover the numbers in the news that you should know about. This week, we cover mortgage applications increasing, China's home prices decreasing, and Carrie Bradshaw ... Indices-ing? Related Episodes:When mortgage rates are too low to give upAre both rents AND interest rates too dang high?The highs and lows of US rentsThe mess at the heart of China's economyFor sponsor-free episodes of The Indicator from Planet Money, subscribe to Planet Money+ via Apple Podcasts or at plus.npr.org. Music by Drop Electric. Find us: TikTok, Instagram, Facebook, Newsletter. Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy
Some bank customers are jumping to high-yield savings accounts to escape the shockingly low interest rates of personal savings accounts at big banks. So why aren't these banks raising their rates to attract more customers? Today on the show, we explore why big banks may not care about your savings account anymore.Related episodes:The dangers of money market funds (Apple / Spotify) Interest rates up, but not on your savings account (Apple / Spotify)Bad Form, Wells Fargo For sponsor-free episodes of The Indicator from Planet Money, subscribe to Planet Money+ via Apple Podcasts or at plus.npr.org.Music by Drop Electric. Find us: TikTok, Instagram, Facebook, Newsletter. Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy
Former President Donald Trump recently suggested that if elected in this year's presidential election he would want more say on decisions made by the Federal Reserve. Presidents taking a more active role in monetary policy would mark an extraordinary shift in U.S. economic institutions, and mark the end of central bank independence. Today on the show, why the Federal Reserve insulates itself from day-to-day politics, and what it looks like when central banks are influenced by politicians. Related Episodes:Happy Fed Independence Day (Update) Arthur Burns: shorthand for Fed failure?How the Fed got so powerfulFor sponsor-free episodes of The Indicator from Planet Money, subscribe to Planet Money+ via Apple Podcasts or at plus.npr.org. Music by Drop Electric. Find us: TikTok, Instagram, Facebook, Newsletter. Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy
Homelessness is a pervasive issue that cities across the country struggle to address. This led an entrepreneur to team up with researchers and local foundations for an experiment called the Denver Basic Income Project. The goal was to see how different variations of a basic income program would impact the local homeless population. What the researchers found could become a guide for how localities in the United States could address the problem of homelessness.For sponsor-free episodes of The Indicator from Planet Money, subscribe to Planet Money+ via Apple Podcasts or at plus.npr.org.Music by Drop Electric. Find us: TikTok, Instagram, Facebook, Newsletter. Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy
It's that time of year when we want to lie on a beach and lose ourselves in a good book. Today on the show, three summer reading recs that got our hosts thinking about economics. Remember, anything read on the beach is, in fact, a "beach read." Books recommended in this episode: • Exit West by Mohsin Hamid (B&N, Bookshop) • Everything Is Predictable: How Bayesian Statistics Explain Our World by Tom Chivers (B&N, Bookshop) • Range: Why Generalist Triumph in a Specialized World by David Epstein (B&N, Bookshop) Related episodes: How Asimov's 'Foundation' has inspired economists (Apple / Spotify) The carbon coin: A novel idea Beach reads for econ nerdsFor sponsor-free episodes of The Indicator from Planet Money, subscribe to Planet Money+ via Apple Podcasts or at plus.npr.org. Music by Drop Electric. Find us: TikTok, Instagram, Facebook, Newsletter. Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy
Indicators of the Week is a show dedicated to highlighting some of the most interesting numbers in the news. Today, we break down our favorite indicators in Google's antitrust defeat, the currency trade in Japan that jolted global markets and another way of creating an Olympic medal tally. Related episodes: Is Google search getting worse? (Apple / Spotify) Why the Olympics cost so much (Apple / Spotify) For sponsor-free episodes of The Indicator from Planet Money, subscribe to Planet Money+ via Apple Podcasts or at plus.npr.org. Music by Drop Electric. Find us: TikTok, Instagram, Facebook, Newsletter. Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy
The International Olympic Committee has developed a reputation over the years for stringently enforcing its trademarks during the summer games. It has good reason to, with brands like Coca-Cola and Visa paying top dollar for exclusive sponsorship rights. Today on the show, the lengths the IOC will go to protect its trademarks and how smaller brands try to avoid their dragnet. Related episodes:Why the Olympics cost so much (Apple / Spotify) Peacock, potassium and other Paris Olympics Indicators (Apple / Spotify) For sponsor-free episodes of The Indicator from Planet Money, subscribe to Planet Money+ via Apple Podcasts or at plus.npr.org. Music by Drop Electric. Find us: TikTok, Instagram, Facebook, Newsletter. Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy
Globalization, as we once knew it, is dead ... well, that's according to the UK's new Chancellor of the Exchequer, Rachel Reeves. Chancellor Reeves has run the UK Treasury since July 2024. She's facing an economic backdrop familiar to many countries: hollowed-out industrial towns; climate change; global wars and conflicts. Today on the show: Our conversation with Chancellor Reeves on her visit this week to the US. What she thinks went wrong with globalization, and the new economic map she's coursing. Related Episodes:From Brexit to RegrexitFor sponsor-free episodes of The Indicator from Planet Money, subscribe to Planet Money+ via Apple Podcasts or at plus.npr.org. Music by Drop Electric. Find us: TikTok, Instagram, Facebook, Newsletter. Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy
The U.S. wants to become a net-zero emissions economy by 2050. That will mean a lot of new generation from renewable energy. It also means more transmission networks are needed to bring it onto the grid. But there's a debate over how that new transmission should be built — between a competitive or monopoly approach. Today, we look at why competition is so divisive and why each side thinks they should build the next generation of transmission infrastructure. Related Listening: Texas' new power grid problem (Apple / Spotify) Green energy gridlock (Apple / Spotify) For sponsor-free episodes of The Indicator from Planet Money, subscribe to Planet Money+ via Apple Podcasts or at plus.npr.org. Music by Drop Electric. Find us: TikTok, Instagram, Facebook, Newsletter. Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy
It's been a turbulent couple of days for financial markets around the world. Japan's biggest stock market saw its worst day in decades. Corporate earnings disappointed investors. And last week's jobs report here in the US showed disappointing numbers. Is this a sign of a recession or just some temporary turbulence? Today, we speak with two economic analysts to make sense of what's really going on.Related:Matt Klein's newsletter "The Overshoot"Why are we so bummed about the economy? (Apple / Spotify) The Sahm Rule With The Eponymous Economist For sponsor-free episodes of The Indicator from Planet Money, subscribe to Planet Money+ via Apple Podcasts or at plus.npr.org.Music by Drop Electric. Find us: TikTok, Instagram, Facebook, Newsletter.Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy
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Patrick Neal

More than 10 minutes into an 11 minute. podcasts we finally get to "in other studies the results are mixed." indeed.

Aug 14th
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Jejj

You mean we can't indefinitely continue to squeeze the average person with high interest rates and ever increasing prices? Shocking!

Aug 6th
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TH3N0RTHSID3

Tariffs? Embargos? COVID checks?

Jul 11th
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Patrick Neal

Liberal NPR does not once say the word "illegal" in their entire discussion.

Jun 12th
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Gil Gurevich

It wasn't a civil war! Arabs attacked the jews and didn't agree to the 2 states solutions That was a really biased episode by my opinion

Jun 7th
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Alex McNaughton

did they speed up the audio? it sounds off

Apr 7th
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jeff stude

"older white Republican" mmmmm ok then

Mar 28th
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G

I think we should not give the government more Social Security money simply because they mishandled the money we already gave them. Putting more money in the hands of those who will waste it will not solve the problem, and me paying 7.65% going up to 9.65% isn't fair to me and limits my investing power. I believe people can invest their money better than the govt can.

Mar 21st
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steve

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Mar 12th
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steve

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Khalid Shamlan

Couple of points. 1. MBS didn't agree to sport washing accusations. He clearly said, if you named as such then it is fine as long as it adds to GDP😁 2. No normalization with Israel. This week announcement is as clear as Neom shores😂. We talk when Un resolutions are implemented based on '67 boarders. Final thought, US politicians push when their accounts are going down. We have seen change of harts when they are seeing benefits in Saudi Arabia. Seems that they haven't yet.

Feb 9th
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Feb 5th
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Alex McNaughton

audio doubles up at around 7:30

Oct 12th
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G

It’s really sad how woke NPR is. I’m highly conservative and I love NPR, but when they say things like they don’t like a song because they’re confused by the “conservative lyrics”…come on guys. These lyrics aren’t complicated. The lyrics voice frustration about high taxes, corrupt politicians, and no one caring about minors (you know, kids). What’s so confusing about that you leftist self-righteous paranoid democrats? The song referred to is Rich Men North of Richmond.

Oct 3rd
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Matevz Groboljsek

Broken audio :(

Sep 17th
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TH3N0RTHSID3

whoops forgot to include Darian's file

Sep 16th
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Alex McNaughton

so bizarre, it's like they only recorded on one mic

Sep 16th
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Aakash Amanat

I absolutely love "The Indicator from Planet Money"! This podcast has been a game-changer for me in terms of understanding complex economic concepts in a fun and engaging way. The hosts have a remarkable talent for breaking down intricate topics into easily digestible segments, which makes economics accessible to a wider audience. https://hubpages.com/@customise-sticker One thing I appreciate is how the show covers a wide range of subjects, from global trade and monetary policy to quirky and unexpected economic phenomena. The diverse range of topics keeps me coming back for more, as there's always something new and interesting to learn. https://www.behance.net/customise-sticker

Aug 21st
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Cathy Muste

next time pick me for a guest!

Jul 12th
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Alex McNaughton

one of the best episodes! great questions!

Jul 9th
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