In a truly epic episode, Kenny welcomes trailblazing artist, musician, multiple Grammy nominee, and self-proclaimed ‘hot engine’, Grace Potter, to the podcast. Known for her unbridled energy and unique blend of musical styles, Grace's journey from forming her band with The Nocturnals to her successful solo career and extensive artistic endeavors is legendary. Today, she and Kenny take a wild look into the topics of music, passion, self-worth, and navigating life's creative chaos.
Together, they also delve deeply into the topics of identity, motherhood, and the power of music. Grace reflects on her journey as an artist and a mother, the roots of apologies and forgiveness, empowerment, and the significance of language in shaping our narratives. This episode offers insights into Grace's creative process, her relationship with music as a form of therapy, and her approach to performing. Touching upon such familiar themes as teamwork and leadership, Grace displays her intriguing perspective on life here today, modeling for listeners a rock solid commitment to authenticity, family, and, of course, music.
Episode Highlights:
The first time Kenny saw Grace perform
Grace’s early love of ski outfits and being in the spotlight
The culture that Grace’s parents embraced in Vermont
Grace and Kenny on their glasses game and fashion
Grace and Kenny on the ‘switch of life’, sleeping, health, and meditation
Jessica Meir, parenthood, and Grace’s latest record, Mother Road
Grace’s identities as a person and a musician
Her early relationships
Grace’s issues with self-worth
Her experience as a mother
Jon Aronoff, Tomorrow and Tomorrow and Tomorrow, and the power of play
Grace’s parents
Grace on teamwork, leadership, and going solo
The Grand Point North music festival
Grace and Kenny’s perspectives on skiing
Grace’s home and studio in Vermont
Her work with Bernie Sanders
Grace’s thoughts on aging
The people she most identifies with
Grace on being mute, legally blind, and reading a room
Grace on learning to play piano and guitar
Nick Bockrath’s playing on Grace’s “Little Hitchhiker”
The stories behind her “Lady Vagabond” and “Masterpiece”
Where Grace’s music comes from
Words that Kenny and Grace never use
Kenny and Grace on saying, “I’m sorry”
Doing things differently in the next chapter of life
Grace on self-worth and being apologetic
Apologies and forgiveness
What music means to Grace now
Grace on rehearsing and drummers
Quotes:
"Everybody who gets into music knows that they're properly insane."
"Play and trauma are the two ways that we learn anything."
“I always think my brain is the 4th of July. But I think you're like me on steroids in a woman."
"I don't even think of it as leadership. I just think of it as being a good person."
"Saying 'I'm sorry' for anything is a premonition of asking forgiveness later from that same person."
"I’m the pinball that you could throw into a machine.”
"For me, music is kind of my binky."
Links:
Kenny Aronoff
Grace Potter
I was lucky enough to see both of Chickenfoot's shows in London - one with Chad and one with you, Kenny. Chad's obviously a fine drummer but I distinctly remember thinking at the time in Brixton Academy 'WOW - this fella is absolutely top notch'. I had heard of you but never seen you. Better than Chad. BTW - Brixton Academy is now closed after a fatal incident at an over-attended event😪.