The Mismatch

Chris Vernon is joined by The Ringer's David Jacoby as they discuss what they are looking forward to the most this NBA season (01:42). Hosts: Chris Vernon and David Jacoby Producer: Jessie Lopez Social: Keith Fujimoto Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Verno and KOC debate whether Luka Doncic really is out of shape and discuss New Balance’s new shoe endorsement deal with top prospect Cooper Flagg (01:44). Also, the guys open up the summer mailbag to answer more of your questions (11:06). Got a question for Verno and KOC? Send them an email at nbamailbag@gmail.com! Or you can send the guys a tweet @ChrisVernonShow and @KevinOConnorNBA! The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit www.rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and helplines available. Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Producer: Jessie Lopez Social: Keith Fujimoto Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Verno and KOC open up the mailbag to answer more of your questions (03:50). Is Jalen Brunson’s style of play sustainable? What are the chances the Pistons can reach the play-in? Are the Nets even worth watching? The guys answer these questions and more. Got a question for Verno and KOC? Send them an email at nbamailbag@gmail.com!Or you can send the guys a tweet @ChrisVernonShow and @KevinOConnorNBA! The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit www.rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and helplines available. Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Producer: Jessie Lopez Social: Keith Fujimoto Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Verno and KOC discuss Zion Williamson’s viral photo that shows him in great shape ahead of the season and how a healthy Zion impacts how the Pelicans are viewed (01:20). They then discuss the 76ers’ signing of Guerschon Yabusele after an impressive Olympics run for the French team, as well as the fantastic offseason the Sixers have had (11:44). Next, the guys continue to open up the mailbag to answer some of your questions (18:14). Got a question for Verno and KOC? Send them an email at nbamailbag@gmail.com! Or you can send the guys a tweet @ChrisVernonShow and @KevinOConnorNBA! The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit www.rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and helplines available. Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Producer: Jessie Lopez Social: Keith Fujimoto Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Verno and KOC react to the NBA schedule release and discuss the glaring lack of excitement around the release as well as the need for more rivalries in the NBA (01:19). Also, they debate whether the NBA is making the right call by positioning the Lakers and Warriors as the two teams on national TV the most this season despite not being true Finals contenders (12:38). Is it time for the NBA to move on from LeBron James and Steph Curry and feature the next generation of NBA stars? The guys open up the summer mailbag and answer some listener questions (27:41)! They discuss the Spurs' future with Wemby, which fan base should be the most excited after the Olympics, and the biggest question of all: Does bigfoot really exist? Got a question for Verno and KOC? Send them an email at nbamailbag@gmail.com! Or you can send the guys a tweet @ChrisVernonShow and @KevinOConnorNBA! The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit www.rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and helplines available. Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Producer: Jessie Lopez Social: Keith Fujimoto Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Verno and KOC discuss Team USA’s thrilling victory over France to secure the fifth straight men's basketball gold medal (01:10). They debate where the gold medal ranks among Steph Curry’s achievements, discuss Guerschon Yabusele's impressive performance in the Olympics, and talk about why the basketball that was showcased is good for the global game of basketball. With the U.S.’s reliance on older players to win gold this year, is the window open for a different country to claim gold in 2028 (18:01)? As the release of the NBA schedule nears, the guys discuss the handful of games that have been leaked so far (37:50). Got a question for Verno and KOC? Send them an email at nbamailbag@gmail.com! Or you can send the guys a tweet @ChrisVernonShow and @KevinOConnorNBA! The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit www.rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and helplines available. Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Producer: Jessie Lopez Social: Keith Fujimoto Got a question for Verno and KOC? Send them an email at nbamailbag@gmail.com! Or you can send the guys a tweet @ChrisVernonShow and @KevinOConnorNBA! The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit www.rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and helplines available. Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Producer: Jessie Lopez Social: Keith Fujimoto Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Verno and KOC discuss Team USA’s incredible rally against Serbia to make it to the gold medal match on Saturday against France (01:25). They dive into Steph Curry’s 36-point performance, Joel Embiid's run in the fourth quarter, how amazing it is to see the older players still able to play a pivotal role on the team, as well as where the future of Team USA stands. They then discuss France’s thrilling victory over Germany and why France’s head coach, Vincent Collet, deserves huge credit for getting the French team to the gold medal match (16:22). Next, they discuss French prospect Nolan Traore’s importance for France’s future, and delve into the extremely disappointing showing by the Canadian basketball team (31:34). Also, the guys discuss Lauri Markkanen’s contract extension with the Jazz and why Utah is on the right track to become a contender once again (42:01). Got a question for Verno and KOC? Send them an email at nbamailbag@gmail.com! Or you can send the guys a tweet @ChrisVernonShow and @KevinOConnorNBA! The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit www.rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and helplines available. Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Producer: Jessie Lopez Social: Keith Fujimoto Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Verno and KOC discuss the latest Olympic basketball play, including the respect earned by the South Sudan team, Jamal Murray’s struggles with Canada, and the strong play by the German team (01:10). They then open up the mailbag and answer more questions from the listeners (15:32). They discuss whether the Warriors should look to trade Steph Curry, how they would tweak the rules to help make expansion teams competitive from the beginning, what musical acts they would want to see perform at Sphere in Las Vegas, and more. Got a question for Verno and KOC? Send them an email at nbamailbag@gmail.com! Or you can send the guys a tweet @ChrisVernonShow and @KevinOConnorNBA! The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit www.rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and helplines available. Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Producer: Jessie Lopez Social: Keith Fujimoto Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Verno and KOC discuss the U.S. men’s basketball team defeating South Sudan and how Bam Adebayo’s strong play can carry over to the upcoming season with the Heat (01:22). They then discuss Luol Deng's personal involvement with the South Sudan team, and Verno explains why the men’s 3x3 basketball team isn’t led by current players in the NBA. Next, the guys discuss the recent news of Gordon Hayward's retirement, Jarrett Allen’s extension, and Luke Kennard returning to the Grizzlies (25:57). Lastly, the guys open up the mailbag and answer some listener questions (34:54). Got a question for Verno and KOC? Send them an email at nbamailbag@gmail.com! Or you can send the guys a tweet @ChrisVernonShow and @KevinOConnorNBA! The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit www.rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and helplines available. Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Producer: Jessie Lopez Social: Keith Fujimoto Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Verno and KOC open up the show by discussing the U.S. men’s basketball team’s win over Nikola Jokic and Serbia (03:50). They dive into why Jayson Tatum's lack of play doesn't matter, the incredible performances we’re seeing from Kevin Durant and LeBron James, why Derrick White was the right choice for this team, and a brief outlook for the promising French team that features Victor Wembanyama. Next, they discuss their excitement over the Suns' signing of Tyus Jones, why the Nuggets should be concerned about Jamal Murray, and the new NBA rights deal (30:53). Got a question for Verno and KOC? Send them an email at nbamailbag@gmail.com! Or you can send the guys a tweet @ChrisVernonShow and @KevinOConnorNBA! The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit www.rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and helplines available. Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Producer: Jessie Lopez Social: Keith Fujimoto Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Just after the Heat beat the Grizzlies in the nail-biting NBA summer league championship game (0:58), KOC and Verno convene to talk about the standout players from Vegas this summer (8:26). Then they talk about the rumors flying around that Russell Westbrook will sign with the Denver Nuggets (38:14), Team USA’s exhibition games (44:57), and the news that TNT will be submitting a matching offer to retain NBA rights (49:19). Got a question for Verno and KOC? Send them an email at nbamailbag@gmail.com! Or you can send the guys a tweet @ChrisVernonShow and @KevinOConnorNBA! The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit www.rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and helplines available. Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Producers: Sasha Ashall and Jessie Lopez Social: Keith Fujimoto Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Verno and KOC are live from Las Vegas as they recap their Vegas trip before diving into the summer league action. They discuss Reed Sheppard’s impressive debut performance, debate if Tidjane Salaun will become the best French player from this draft class, get into what DaRon Holmes's unfortunate injury means for the Nuggets, and more. Also, they discuss Jalen Brunson’s extension and why he decided to take a lot less money to stay with the Knicks. Got a question for Verno and KOC? Send them an email at nbamailbag@gmail.com!Or you can send the guys a tweet @ChrisVernonShow and @KevinOConnorNBA! The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit www.rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and helplines available. Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Producer:s Jessie Lopez and Isaiah Blakely Social: Keith Fujimoto Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Verno and KOC go through the most intriguing rookie debuts from over the weekend, starting with Jared McCain and Adem Bona with the 76ers (02:12). Next, they discuss Zach Edey’s impressive debut with the Grizzlies and why he’ll fit perfectly in Memphis alongside Ja Morant (14:40). Also, the guys discuss who they are most excited to watch at this year’s summer league in Las Vegas, why they like DeMar DeRozan signing with the Kings, and how the Spurs’ offseason has set them up for success now and into the future (25:00). Got a question for Verno and KOC? Send them an email at nbamailbag@gmail.com!Or you can send the guys a tweet @ChrisVernonShow and @KevinOConnorNBA! The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit www.rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and helplines available. Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Producer: Jessie Lopez Social: Keith Fujimoto Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Now that the free agency period has started, Verno and KOC react to all the free agent signings, extensions, and more, starting with Jayson Tatum’s record-breaking contract extension with the Celtics, as well as Paul George’s impact with the Sixers and where the Clippers go from here (01:26). They then move on to discuss the contracts of Tyrese Maxey, Immanuel Quickley, and debate why the Nuggets wouldn’t match the contract that the Magic gave to Kentavious Caldwell-Pope (20:27). Next, they discuss Klay Thompson’s departure from the Warriors as he leaves to join the Mavs (38:56). Also, the impact that Chris Paul will make on Victor Wembanyama, Stephon Castle, and the rest of the young Spurs, as well as the latest rumors on Lauri Markkanen (46:47). Got a question for Verno and KOC? Send them an email at nbamailbag@gmail.com! Or you can send the guys a tweet @ChrisVernonShow and @KevinOConnorNBA! The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit www.rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and helplines available. Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Producer: Jessie Lopez Social: Keith Fujimoto Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Verno and KOC recap the 2024 NBA draft, as they discuss picks they liked, picks they disliked, surprises, and more! They start off by discussing Zach Edey’s fit with the Grizzlies, the one big difference maker for Ron Holland’s development with the Pistons, and the importance of situation, fit, and opportunity for younger players entering the league (01:12). Next, they discuss why the Hornets taking Tidjane Salaun at no. 6 led to the Spurs trading away Rob Dillingham, Dalton Knecht’s surprising fall to the Lakers at no. 17, why Buck fans should be pissed, and the increasing value of international prospects (25:05). Also, which second-round picks have the best chance to succeed, as well as the best-case scenario for Bronny James, who was selected by the Lakers and is now teammates with his dad (50:30). Got a question for Verno and KOC? Send them an email at nbamailbag@gmail.com! Or you can send the guys a tweet @ChrisVernonShow and @KevinOConnorNBA! The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit www.rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and helplines available. Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Producer: Jessie Lopez Social: Keith Fujimoto Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

With the NBA draft this week, Verno and KOC dive into the latest draft news, including the uncertainty around the Hawks and the top overall pick and why people are suddenly high on prospect Zaccharie Risacher (01:48). As the conversation continues for who should be the top overall prospect, KOC shares which players he considers to be the safest prospects at the top of the draft, and Verno breaks down why Reed Sheppard would be a perfect fit with the Grizzlies and why the Rockets are big-name hunting (11:21). Next, they debate whether Ron Holland can be this draft’s GG Jackson and talk about the best shooting prospects in this class, Johnny Furphy’s ceiling, and Verno’s favorite college prospects (24:44). Then, KOC ranks his favorite prospect interviews (47:07). Also, what happens with Bronny James? The guys share what they thought about JJ Redick’s introductory press conference with the Lakers and the Cavs' hiring of Kenny Atkinson as their next head coach. Plus, what Scottie Barnes’s max extension means for the Raptors' future (56:19). You can read KOC’s article mentioned in this episode here, and you can find KOC’s Draft Guide here. Got a question for Verno and KOC? Send them an email at nbamailbag@gmail.com! Or you can send the guys a tweet @ChrisVernonShow and @KevinOConnorNBA! The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit www.rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and helplines available. Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Producer: Jessie Lopez Social: Keith Fujimoto Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

With the Finals now behind us, Verno and KOC dive fully into the offseason, starting off with the Lakers' hiring of JJ Redick as their next head coach (02:34) and the Pistons’ firing of Monty Williams (23:44). Next, the guys discuss the surprising trade between the Thunder and Bulls that sends Alex Caruso to OKC and Josh Giddey to Chicago (31:01). They also discuss the latest news around the league, including Pascal Siakam re-signing with the Pacers, Sixers free agent rumors, and more (41:17). With the draft next week, the guys discuss the latest with Bronny James and KOC’s latest mock draft (48:11). Got a question for Verno and KOC? Send them an email at nbamailbag@gmail.com! Or you can send the guys a tweet @ChrisVernonShow and @KevinOConnorNBA! The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit www.rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and helplines available. Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Producer: Jessie Lopez Social: Keith Fujimoto Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Verno and KOC congratulate the Boston Celtics on winning the 2024 NBA Finals! They discuss their dominant playoff run as well as their dominant play all season long en route to an NBA record 18th NBA championship (01:22). Where does this Celtics team rank among the all-time great teams? The guys also applaud Brad Stevens for making the necessary moves to win it all, what lessons owners can take from this year's Finals, as well as the redemption arc for Jayson Tatum and Jaylen Brown. Next, KOC shares some undervalued players he believes teams should target going into free agency, and what Luka Doncic and the Mavs need to do to not only make it back to the Finals, but to win it all (42:35). Got a question for Verno and KOC? Send them an email at nbamailbag@gmail.com! Or you can send the guys a tweet @ChrisVernonShow and @KevinOConnorNBA! The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit www.rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and helplines available. Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Producer: Jessie Lopez Social: Keith Fujimoto Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Verno and KOC discuss their frustration with Luka Doncic, who fouled out in Game 3, and the ripple effect his fouling out caused (01:25). Would the Mavs have won if he didn’t foul out? Would a Mavs Game 3 win have completely flipped the series? They also discuss how Jaylen Brown’s impressive improvement should be a blueprint for Luka to get better, give credit to Brad Stevens for building out this type of roster, and share their hope for a Game 5 on Monday night. Next, Verno shares his experience working with Jerry West during his time with the Grizzlies and explains how his tortured Finals losses helped shape the NBA during successful runs in NBA front offices (49:48). Lastly, the guys debate whether JJ Redick will be the next Lakers head coach and get into some brief draft talk (59:14). Got a question for Verno and KOC? Send them an email at nbamailbag@gmail.com! Or you can send the guys a tweet @ChrisVernonShow and @KevinOConnorNBA! The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit www.rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and helplines available. Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Producer: Jessie Lopez Social: Keith Fujimoto Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

As the Finals shift to Dallas for Game 3, Verno and KOC discuss how the Celtics have been able to exploit the Mavericks' defensive weaknesses, as well as limit their offensive production en route to a 2-0 series lead (01:24). They also discuss the impact of Kristaps Porzingis, Kyrie Irving's struggles, Luka Doncic's need to produce some of his signature magic, as well as Jayson Tatum’s poor shooting but effective playmaking and defense. Next, the guys debate whether Dan Hurley just used the Lakers' offer as leverage and the undesirable position Hurley's rejection has put the Lakers in (44:26). The guys finish off the show by discussing the odd athletic measurables of the potential top pick, Zaccharie Risacher (57:26). Got a question for Verno and KOC? Send them an email at nbamailbag@gmail.com! Or you can send the guys a tweet @ChrisVernonShow and @KevinOConnorNBA! The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit www.rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and helplines available. Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor Producer: Jessie Lopez Social: Keith Fujimoto Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices