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Robert Peston and Steph McGovern follow the money to bring you insightful stories from the world of business and finance. 


Who’s making money and who’s spending it? Who’s investing, and who’s innovating? How will AI affect the way we work and why are Saudi Arabia buying up sport? How can the UK economy recover its productivity and adapt for the future?


Steph and Robert tap their extensive business contacts to answer these questions and decode the jargon to help make sense of the financial world.

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Steph and Robert discuss Keir Starmer’s gloomy speech that set the tone for a ‘painful’ Autumn budget, look at why short selling the stock market isn’t always a bad thing and team up with The Rest Is Entertainment to discover why celebrities are launching so many alcohol brands. Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Email: restismoney@gmail.com X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney goalhangerpodcasts.com Assistant Producer: India Dunkley Producer: Ross Buchanan Head of Content: Tom Whiter Exec Producers: Neil Fearn, Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Steph is joined by economics commentator Grace Blakeley to answer your questions, including what a world without landlords would look like, how Labour might reform council tax and whether community fundraising would help improve local infrastructure. Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Email: restismoney@gmail.com X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney goalhangerpodcasts.com Assistant Producer: India Dunkley, Becki Hills Producer: Ross Buchanan Head of Content: Tom Whiter Exec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
This week Steph is joined by economics author Grace Blakeley who argues that capitalism is not what we think it is. They discuss whether we really are in a free market and what that means for the government's plans like the National Wealth Fund. Plus, whether there can ever be equality with a two tier education system. Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Email: restismoney@gmail.com X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney goalhangerpodcasts.com Assistant Producer: India Dunkley, Becki Hills Producer: Ross Buchanan Head of Content: Tom Whiter Exec Producers: Neil Fearn, Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Robert and Steph are joined by Azeem Azhar, influential tech thinker, to discuss how disruptive artificial intelligence is changing business forever, our need to rethink entire economic structures at the point of singularity and how Elon Musk went from being just another Silicon Valley geek partygoer to the most powerful billionaire in history. Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Email: restismoney@gmail.com X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney goalhangerpodcasts.com Assistant Producer: India Dunkley Producer: Ross Buchanan Head of Content: Tom Whiter Exec Producers: Neil Fearn, Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
What actually is ‘cheapflation’? Are higher rental costs anti-business? What would happen if we stopped trying to control inflation and just let it run its course? Robert and Steph answer your questions. Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Email: restismoney@gmail.com X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney goalhangerpodcasts.com Assistant Producer: India Dunkley Producer: Ross Buchanan Head of Content: Tom Whiter Exec Producers: Neil Fearn, Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
How does hate speech on X impact Elon Musk’s business and why is he suing advertisers? What do we mean when we say that the UK is a “services economy”? Should you pay less VAT in poorer areas? Robert and Steph answer your questions. Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Email: restismoney@gmail.com X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney goalhangerpodcasts.com Assistant Producer: India Dunkley Producer: Ross Buchanan Head of Content: Tom Whiter Exec Producers: Neil Fearn, Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Karen Ward, a Chief Market Strategist for EMEA at one of the world's leading financial institutions, JP Morgan Asset Management, as well as a former advisor to an ex chancellor, joins Steph and Robert to discuss turmoil in world markets, whether the US is heading for recession, where interest rates should settle and how to fix the British economy. Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Email: restismoney@gmail.com X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney goalhangerpodcasts.com Assistant Producer: India Dunkley Producer: Ross Buchanan Head of Content: Tom Whiter Exec Producers: Neil Fearn, Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Mariana Mazzucato, who created the concept of "mission-led government", talks to Robert and Steph about Labour’s five missions and whether they will work, what Rachel Reeves should have done instead of her spending audit announcement and how devolved powers can change a government’s mission. Go to Saily.com/restismoney or use the code restismoney to get an exclusive 15% off your first purchase.  Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Email: restismoney@gmail.com X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney goalhangerpodcasts.com Assistant Producer: India Dunkley Producer: Ross Buchanan Head of Content: Tom Whiter Exec Producers: Neil Fearn, Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Dan Neidle, the man described as a "tax dodger's worst enemy", joins Steph and Robert to discuss the options Rachel Reeves has to fill the £22bn black hole in the publics finances at her 30 October budget, how to reform our crazy tax system and why the cowboys who devise tax avoidance scams are rarely punished. Go to Saily.com/restismoney or use the code restismoney to get an exclusive 15% off your first purchase.  Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Email: restismoney@gmail.com X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney goalhangerpodcasts.com Assistant Producer: India Dunkley Producer: Ross Buchanan Head of Content: Tom Whiter Exec Producers: Neil Fearn, Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
The number of people who’ve left the Labour force because of mental and physical ill health is at record levels. It means employers can’t hire the people they need, the country is dependent on immigration and the costs of disability benefits are soaring. Former Labour Health Secretary Alan Milburn has a plan to fix this, which he discusses with Steph and Robert. Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Email: restismoney@gmail.com X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney goalhangerpodcasts.com Assistant Producer: India Dunkley Producer: Ross Buchanan Head of Content: Tom Whiter Exec Producers: Neil Fearn, Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
How much will a new US president hurt or help our economy? Where will Rachel Reeves find the money to fill an enormous hole in the public finances that she’ll reveal next week? Will her new 'Covid Czar' be able to recover billions from dodgy Covid deals and furlough fraud? Robert and Steph answer your questions Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Email: restismoney@gmail.com X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney goalhangerpodcasts.com Assistant Producer: India Dunkley Producer: Ross Buchanan Head of Content: Tom Whiter Exec Producers: Neil Fearn, Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Robert and Steph are joined by one of the most famous investors in the United Kingdom, Deborah Meaden, to hear about her conversation with Keir Starmer on the future of business, what it’s like to be an investor on Dragon’s Den, and the key criteria she looks for when backing an entrepreneur with a bright idea. Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Email: restismoney@gmail.com X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney goalhangerpodcasts.com Assistant Producer: India Dunkley Producer: Ross Buchanan Head of Content: Tom Whiter Exec Producers: Neil Fearn, Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Sir Keir Starmer says his big ambitions are to rebuild prosperity and trust. What new laws did he propose in the King’s speech? Will they work and are they enough? Robert and Steph are joined by Alastair Campbell from The Rest Is Politics on a crossover episode of The Rest Is Money. Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Email: restismoney@gmail.com X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney goalhangerpodcasts.com Assistant Producer: Fiona Douglas, India Dunkley Producer: Ross Buchanan Head of Content: Tom Whiter Exec Producers: Neil Fearn, Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Economist and external member of the Bank of England’s Monetary Policy Committee, Swati Dhingra talks to Robert and Steph about why she thinks the time has come to lower Bank Rate, the interest rate set by the Bank of England that determines the cost of borrowing and savings rates for all of us.   She discusses the heavy responsibility of deciding how much money the British public have in their pockets and discusses where interest rates are likely to settle for the next ten years or longer. The Rest Is Money also examines with her why the Bank of England was too slow to raise interest rates when the inflationary surge began and whether monetary policy can be adapted to meet the different needs of the UK’s regions Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Email: restismoney@gmail.com X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney goalhangerpodcasts.com Assistant Producer: Fiona Douglas, India Dunkley Producer: Ross Buchanan Head of Content: Tom Whiter Exec Producers: Neil Fearn, Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Does capitalism only work if people continue to be poor? How can we encourage young people to contribute to their pension? What do we know so far about Labour's economic policy? Steph and Robert answer your questions. Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Email: restismoney@gmail.com X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney goalhangerpodcasts.com Assistant Producer: Fiona Douglas Producer: Ross Buchanan Senior Producer: Dom Johnson Head of Content: Tom Whiter Exec Producers: Neil Fearn, Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Robert and Steph debrief after an incredibly dramatic week in politics, discussing the new cabinet appointments, what it’s like to ask a question at a Prime Minister’s press conference and how the markets reacted to the results of the General Election. Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Email: restismoney@gmail.com X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney goalhangerpodcasts.com Assistant Producer: Fiona Douglas, India Dunkley Producer: Ross Buchanan Senior Producer: Dom Johnson Head of Content: Tom Whiter Exec Producers: Neil Fearn, Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
How would Great British Energy actually work? Could the Lib Dems become the official opposition? What would Robert and Steph do if they were in charge of the budget? The Rest Is Money team answer the questions that matter, on our General Election special. Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Email: restismoney@gmail.com X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney goalhangerpodcasts.com Assistant Producer: Fiona Douglas, India Dunkley Producer: Ross Buchanan Senior Producer: Dom Johnson Head of Content: Tom Whiter Exec Producers: Neil Fearn, Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Robert and Steph answer your questions including, how do we measure our productivity in the UK? Why didn’t the Bank of England cut interest rates? How much of what we invest actually come back to the Exchequer? Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Email: restismoney@gmail.com X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney goalhangerpodcasts.com Assistant Producer: Fiona Douglas Producer: Ross Buchanan Senior Producer: Dom Johnson Head of Content: Tom Whiter Exec Producers: Neil Fearn, Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
How do Labour plan to grow the economy? Would Shein be allowed to float on the London Stock Exchange? Will regulating AI boost productivity without costing jobs? Robert and Steph are joined by the Shadow Secretary of State for Business and Trade, Jonathan Reynolds to find out. Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Email: restismoney@gmail.com X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney goalhangerpodcasts.com Assistant Producer: Fiona Douglas Producer: Ross Buchanan Senior Producer: Dom Johnson Head of Content: Tom Whiter Exec Producers: Neil Fearn, Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Is this the first time since Brexit that the UK has something that the EU actually needs? What would happen if capital gains tax was applicable on all property? Do we need to increase the tax burden by to get better public services? Robert and Steph answer your questions. Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Email: restismoney@gmail.com X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney goalhangerpodcasts.com Assistant Producer: Fiona Douglas Producer: Ross Buchanan Senior Producer: Dom Johnson Head of Content: Tom Whiter Exec Producers: Chris Sawyer, Neil Fearn, Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Comments (7)

Jenny Headey

the editing is broken, just listened to the Elon musk episode and the last 5 minutes repeated itself then the episode stopped abruptly!

Aug 13th
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Paul Billington

Does HMRC have telephone Helpline? I called the number that they provided and had to give up after 30 minutes!

Aug 1st
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Paul Billington

I'm still enjoying your podcast. on the subject of employee business participation, I worked for SUN Microsystems. They would issue option constrained so that we couldn't realise their value for five years. So, not only were they exposed to the market risk, but also when the company went into decline, not only did people lose their jobs but also their option were worthless. (All eggs in a leveraged basket)

Mar 9th
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Teri Barbour

Generally like this podcast but, in common with many podcasts I listen to, they do not make any distinction between the separate countries of the UK. I listened to the episode about the housing crisis- repeatedly talked about ' this country' when they mean England. Infuriating!

Feb 9th
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Dave Miller

Great podcast, thanks Steph for asking all the questions we are thinking!

Jan 24th
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