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This is a show about life and how money messes with it. Each week, Marketplace’s Reema Khrais digs in with stories about the unanticipated ways money affects relationships, shapes identities and often defines what it means to be an adult. How much money do you lend a friend? Who can afford to vote? Can you get your life back after being wrongfully convicted?
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From our sponsor: Imagine if you could ask someone anything you wanted about their finances. On “What We Spend,” people from across the country and across the financial spectrum are opening their wallets — and their lives — to tell you everything: What they make, what they want, and — for one week — what they spend.
When newlyweds Chantal and Travis Lisback started searching for their dream home in Seattle, they weren’t entirely on the same page. Chantal was eager to settle down as soon as possible, while Travis was more comfortable waiting a few years. As the search dragged on, what began as a shared dream started to feel more like a standoff. This week, a story about how a big life decision can bring to light the money and communication issues you didn’t know were there. Plus, later in the episode, Chantal and Travis sit down with financial therapist Aja Evans to unpack what’s happening beneath the surface, and how to approach money fights with more care and intention. If you liked this episode, share it with a friend!
Ever wrestled with a work problem and didn’t know where to turn? We’ve got you. In our new advice column, “Work Drama,” we try to find answers to your sticky work situations. This week, “This Is Uncomfortable” host Reema Khrais is joined by career coach and podcaster Mandi Woodruff-Santos to unpack your workplace problems -- from messy, toxic bosses to dealing with salary negotiations.Got workplace drama you need help dealing with? Shoot us an email at uncomfortable@marketplace.org to tell us about it, or call ‪(347) 746-4848‬ and leave a message. If you liked this episode, share it with a friend!
New Nun Syndrome

New Nun Syndrome

2025-05-0842:46

After decades of trying to make it as an actor and comedian in Hollywood, Claudette Powell felt deeply unfulfilled. So she set her sights on a radically different life -- one that required her to pay off nearly $150,000 of debt. When she finally wrote that last check, she took a vow of poverty and entered a convent. But leaving behind her material life wasn’t as simple as it sounded. This week: how paying off debt was only the beginning – and how money still finds a way to complicate life within convent walls.If you liked this episode, share it with a friend!
Will you be my nanny?

Will you be my nanny?

2025-05-0139:49

Hanna Sanborn was a single mom with newborn twins, struggling to find affordable childcare. Her best friend, Bryer Rossi, was burned out at work and looking for a way out. One day, Hanna floated an idea to him: “What if you quit your job and took care of my babies?” What started as a running joke between friends turned into a lifeline that changed their lives and the way they saw each other.If you liked this episode, share it with a friend!
“This Is Uncomfortable” returns with four brand-new episodes about life and how money messes with it.This season: Two best friends, struggling with work and unaffordable child care, come up with an unconventional solution that reshapes their relationship. A woman walks away from a Hollywood career to take a vow of poverty. Our “Money Fight” series is back, following a couple whose search for a dream home turns into a power struggle. And in our new advice series, "Work Drama," we tackle your uncomfortable work questions on toxic offices and pay discrepancies.New episodes drop starting May 1.
“This Is Uncomfortable” will be back in your feeds with brand new episodes in May, and in the meantime, we’re sharing the first episode of “Unlocking the Gates,” a series from Marketplace and APM Studios hosted by special correspondent Lee Hawkins. He tells the story of how the Minnesota suburb he grew up in went from being a place where the housing market was inaccessible to Black families to one where many Black families found economic opportunity. And it all started with a nighttime business deal.
Hard to believe, but we’re celebrating 10 seasons, and five years, of  “This Is Uncomfortable”! In this special episode, we’re pulling back the curtain to reveal the show’s origins, the biggest lessons Reema’s learned along the way and our favorite money tips from expert guests. Plus we’ll hear from you, our listeners, about the insights that have stuck with you through the years. We’ll be back with a new season in 2025! For special content and updates on what’s next, subscribe to our newsletter. 
Last spring, Jay Benedith and Ben Williams matched on a dating app and quickly hit it off. But just a few weeks into their budding romance, a Venmo request started to raise questions about their future together. What happens when your partner’s approach to money clashes with yours? Can nickel-and-diming jeopardize a connection? If you liked this episode, share it with a friend. And to get even more Uncomfortable, subscribe to our newsletter!
This week, we’re sharing an episode of another podcast we think you’ll love. “Notes From America With Kai Wright” is a show from WNYC Studios about the unfinished business of our history, and its grip on our future. In this episode, Wright interviews choreographer Bill T. Jones about his groundbreaking dance performance “Still/Here.” Jones shares his reflections on creating such an essential piece of performance art amid the AIDS epidemic and while grieving his own partner, what he learned from spending time with the “survivors” who inspired it, and how “Still/Here” has evolved for a new generation of audiences.To get even more Uncomfortable, subscribe to our newsletter!
What does it mean to make a living from death? From a young age, Joél Simone Maldonado was fascinated by mortality, leading her to a career as a funeral director, embalmer and sacred grief practitioner. In the final episode of our miniseries on grief and money, Reema Khrais talks with Joél about her profession: the tough conversations around money, the toll it takes on her mental health, and why she advocates for more cultural competency in death care. Also, Joél offers tips to financially prepare ourselves for the inevitable, and Reema reflects on the personal impact of her recent experiences with loss. If you liked this episode, share it with a friend. And to get even more Uncomfortable, subscribe to our newsletter!
In the early 90s, Mike Perry found himself in a tough spot. He was living a carefree life when he was asked to take in a black mutt named Wisdom. What began as a reluctant favor evolved into something much deeper — a bond that would reshape Mike’s financial future, even long after Wisdom was gone.This week, as part of our miniseries on grief and money, we explore how our love for pets shapes our financial decisions. Mike’s journey with Wisdom takes him from heartbreak to an unexpected windfall. And then later in the episode, we ask: is there such a thing as spending too much on our pets? Reema Khrais talks with Marketplace’s Kimberly Adams about the emotional and financial costs of caring for a beloved pet in their final days.If you liked this episode, share it with a friend. And to get even more Uncomfortable, subscribe to our newsletter!
While sorting through her father’s belongings after his death, Amanda Petteruti came across a collection of locked toolboxes. What she discovered inside made her rethink what she knew about her family’s finances and left her with unsettling questions about her dad: Why had he spent so much money on this secret hobby? Why was it now Amanda’s burden to handle? And how do you find closure with someone once they’re gone? This episode is the first of a three-part miniseries exploring the intersection of money, grief and loss. If you liked this episode, share it with a friend. And to get even more Uncomfortable, subscribe to our newsletter!
This week, we’re revisiting one of our favorite episodes and reconnecting with old friends for an update.Rebecca Danigelis never planned to stop working. She was an executive housekeeper in Boston raising two kids as a single mom, and everything she earned went to making sure they got the best education she could afford. When her son Sian-Pierre was climbing the ranks as a journalist and entrepreneur, it seemed like all the overtime, frozen dinners and sacrifice were worth it. But just as his career was taking off, hers started to crumble.We first aired this episode in 2022, and now Reema checks in with Rebecca and Sian-Pierre to see how their financial situation has unfolded.If you liked this episode, share it with a friend. And to get even more Uncomfortable,  subscribe to our newsletter!
Nikki Massie never had a reason to question her salary. After more than a decade with the same company, she’d earned awards, promotions and the trust of co-workers who felt like family. But then one day, she discovered she might have missed out on tens of thousands of dollars over the years. Nikki began to wonder: What do you do when you suspect you’ve been underpaid? And at what point do you consider walking away? If you liked this episode, share it with a friend. And to get even more Uncomfortable, subscribe to our newsletter!
As we reflect on 10 seasons of “This Is Uncomfortable,” Reema shares a snippet of a conversation with the show’s founder-producer, Hayley Hershman, about what they’ve learned from making the show and how their relationships with money have changed over the years. And we want to hear your thoughts, too!What’s something you’ve learned from listening to “TIU” over the years? You can tell us how your relationship with money or work has changed, or maybe what the show has made you think more deeply about. Record a voice memo and email it to us at uncomfortable@marketplace.org. Or you can call and leave us a message at 347-RING-TIU (347-746-4848). Either way, be sure to include your name and where you’re calling from. There’s a good chance we’ll include it on the show!
Sisters Brittany Walsh and Nicole O’Neil have always been close. But when Nicole started experiencing mysterious health problems, her turn toward alternative treatments divided them. As Nicole spent more and more money on dubious cure-alls, Brittany was faced with a question: What do you do when you’re afraid the person closest to you might be losing themselves? If you liked this episode, share it with a friend. And to get even more Uncomfortable, subscribe to our newsletter!
For our season premiere, we’re sharing a conversation with one of our favorite writers, Hanif Abdurraqib. He joins Reema for a wide-ranging conversation about the moral judgments we’re quick to make about people’s financial circumstances, notions of success and legacy, and what it means to be “good” versus “bad” in an unequal world. Hanif also reveals one of the most challenging financial moments of his life and the reasons behind his commitment to giving away so much of his income.Hanif is an award-winning poet, cultural critic and author from Columbus, Ohio. He’s written six books, several of which are bestsellers, including his most recent, “There’s Always This Year.” His work spans sports, pop culture and politics, often focusing on issues of race and class, while also delving into themes of grief, beauty and love. He’s been the recipient of a MacArthur Foundation “genius grant” and a finalist for the National Book Award, among other accolades.If you liked this episode, share it with a friend. And to get even more Uncomfortable, subscribe to our newsletter!
“This Is Uncomfortable” returns for its 10th season (you read that right: 10th!) with brand-new episodes about life and how money messes with it.In our upcoming season, we’ve got stories about advocating for fair pay and how challenging it can be to support a loved one’s bad money choices. We’ll also explore how money complicates the way we grieve, and what it’s like to receive a huge windfall from beyond the grave. We share one man’s philosophy of how to redistribute wealth to build the community he wants to live in. And we’ll take a look back at the past 10 seasons of TIU and what we’ve learned along the way. All that and more starting Aug. 22.To get even more Uncomfortable during the season, sign up for our newsletter.
An update from Hana

An update from Hana

2024-06-2828:22

When we last heard from Hana Albaioumy, she was grappling with an agonizing decision. She wanted to escape Israel’s ongoing assault on Gaza, but it would cost her $10,000, most of her savings, to cross the border into Egypt. Hana shares a complicated update with Reema: She managed to evacuate Gaza and flee to Cairo, but the decision came with a steep financial and emotional cost. Hana explains what it was like saying goodbye to her family, shares the challenges of navigating a new life in Egypt without legal status and recounts a surprising moment when she felt like her old self. We’re currently working on Season 10, which will launch in August. In the meantime, we hope you listen to this intimate conversation about how Hana is grappling with an uncertain future. If you liked this episode, share it with a friend. And to get even more Uncomfortable, subscribe to our newsletter!
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Feb 5th
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Joe A. Finley II

She couldn't understand why her mom had bad vibes about husband-to-be #2??!! Uh, he wasn't contributing to the relationship FROM THE BEGINNING!! Red flag you could see from Jupiter!! HUGE shocker he just drove them further into debt post-wedding vows.

Aug 25th
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Lori Freetage

The story is well done and evokes some of the feelings around financial infidelity, but this is a soft version that hardly qualifies as financial infidelity, rather some sins of ignorance and irresponsibility, which she then corrects on her own. A romanticized, warm fuzzy version of "financial infidelity" with a straightforward problem and a simple happy ending. A much more uncomfortable topic would have been to discuss the (often marital) financial infidelity involves lying, cheating, sneaking, breaking the other person's trust repeatedly. The half ass attempts to "get better" and "fix" the debts that assuage the situation temporarily, only degrade again months or years down the road, worse than they were before. Arguing about not incurring new debt or not buying this thing and the other person secretly sneaking around and doing it anyway, and refusing to be honest about what's going on. Or maybe thinking everything is fine and then one day waking up and finding up that your spouse ha

Jun 15th
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Billy Weinheimer

Two people spending and saving responsibly, and no stupid drugs or crimes. How refreshing.

Jan 9th
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YOUSIFDOTUS

Loved it! Thank you for your great work 👍

Jun 23rd
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Vicki J

This episode almost brought tears to my eyes. I understand the feeling of trying to "save" her brother. My brother died as well. It's a shame they didn't have information for her. This was somebody's baby boy. And just because people don't have the finances. The deceased should be valued and loved just as if they were their own. I pray she finds peace. There's nothing worse than not having peace about the deceased.

Jun 7th
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Anna

the whole episode I was waiting for the part of the story where she gets an ADHD diagnosis...

Nov 7th
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Vicki J

Ibby. You are a true saint to be willing to spend that much money to have a child. Also, I wish that doctor was honest with you and told you she had to remove so much!!!! What an ass!!! I would need answers from her. Did she feel it was necessary to not have you have anymore pain?? Were there cysts all over the Fallopian tubes?? I would need answers from her.

Oct 24th
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Vicki J

glad you're back!!

Oct 15th
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Amanda de Boer

ugh, this guy is a big whiny baby coward!

Jun 25th
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Adeline Francois

I'm glad one partner was able to rescue another. Can they copy & paste that google spread sheet to my email. Better yet, sell it! I'd buy it. Great story! both partners in debt is just sad. I should know that is my current situation.

Mar 2nd
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Morgan Watson

This is an episode of marketplace?

Feb 27th
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Jeremy Einhorn

Is anyone else’s “In sickness and in fraud” episode a different podcast?

Feb 26th
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Beauregard Throckmorton

Every time I listen, I think "This IS uncomfortable." Then I smile. Nice work. Love the podcast.

Nov 22nd
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I Hope Someone Relates

So strange to have Venmo be such a big part of a romantic relationship.

Oct 2nd
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Ari Christine

Its my opinion that people feel they need to share all aspects of their lives to others. while I understand the young man's reservation about sharing the details of his inheritance with his friends - I don't feel he was "lying." Money matters are private. He wasn't lying.

Aug 29th
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Maher Hajarat

Great podcast

Aug 17th
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Kristin Chong

Gosh I wish they did a story when both people are in debt.

Aug 17th
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T

great podcast, really relatable.

Jul 20th
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The premise of this show is false. Money doesn't mess with people. People mess with people.

Jun 30th
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