Travis Makes Money

In this episode, host Travis Chappell and producer Eric react to a wild sermon clip from fundamentalist pastor Phil Kidd going off on church members about tithing, pastor lifestyles, and “God‑robbing thieves.” The conversation uses the clip as a springboard to unpack how money, ministry, and guilt-based giving often get tangled together in modern church culture.​ On this episode we talk about: Why “if you question my spending, you’re a God‑robber” is such a manipulative framing How young Travis used to automatically trust anything said from a pulpit—and what changed as an adult The real tension in pastor salaries: compensating competence vs. hiding lifestyle excess behind spiritual language Why nonprofit and church structures can quietly turn into big, expensive machines where only a tiny slice reaches the stated “cause” A more honest view: church members do fund the pastor’s life, just like taxpayers fund government salaries Why Travis prefers direct, quiet generosity to individuals over funneling everything through churches or large charities Top 3 Takeaways Guilt is a terrible financial advisor. “Give or you’re robbing God” and “you didn’t pay for my car” are emotional pressure tactics, not healthy teaching on generosity. Paying pastors well is not the problem; lack of transparency is. The issue is not income itself but how it is justified, explained, and held accountable. You can be generous without loving the institutional model. Supporting people and causes you believe in directly can often feel more aligned and impactful than blindly funding bloated structures. Notable Quotes “If you’re good at what you do, you should get paid well—pastors included—but don’t pretend the people in the seats aren’t footing the bill.” “There’s an inherent tension in nonprofit work: to tackle big problems, you need highly skilled people, and highly skilled people are not cheap.” “I’m not anti‑giving; I’m just not interested in giving to systems I don’t trust.”​ ✖️✖️✖️✖️ 🚀 Travis Makes Money is made possible by High Level – the All-In-One Sales & Marketing Platform built for agencies, by an agency.​ 🚀 Capture leads, nurture them, and close more deals—all from one powerful platform.​ 🎁 Get an extended free trial at gohighlevel.com/travis Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode, host Travis Chappell and producer Eric react to a fiery Dave Ramsey call-in segment about infinite banking and whole life insurance, breaking down what is actually happening inside these policies versus what TikTok and sales reps promise. The conversation unpacks cash value, dividends, “paid-up additions,” and why “buy term and invest the rest” still makes more sense for most people.​ On this episode we talk about: What infinite banking is supposed to be: overfunded whole life policies you borrow against as your “own bank” Why Dave insists cash value always disappears at death and how dividends really work (buying more insurance, not magically “keeping” cash value) The opportunity cost of putting thousands per year into low-yield whole life vs. a simple mutual fund or index strategy Claims that “banks use whole life” and why that talking point is so misleading for normal people The difference between true fiduciaries and commission-based insurance salespeople Why the mental gymnastics of whole life, points hacking, and complex credit schemes rarely beat straightforward saving and investing Travis’ default rule of thumb: buy term life insurance and invest the difference in simple, long-term vehicles Top 3 Takeaways Complex does not equal better. If you need a whiteboard, a 90-minute pitch, and ten buzzwords to explain your insurance “investment,” odds are high it is built to benefit the seller more than you. Cash value is not a magic extra pile of money. In most whole life structures, what looks like “keeping” your cash value is really just using dividends to buy more insurance, with weak returns compared to basic market investing. For most people, simple wins. Term life plus steady, boring investing (index funds, mutual funds, real estate you understand) almost always beats exotic products marketed as secret wealth hacks. Notable Quotes “You’re doing all this financial gymnastics to end up with way less than if you’d just put the money in a good mutual fund.” “Buy term and invest the rest is still the best non‑biased advice you will hear from real fiduciaries.” “Just because something sounds like a bank trick on TikTok doesn’t mean it beats compound interest in the market." ✖️✖️✖️✖️ 🚀 Travis Makes Money is made possible by High Level – the All-In-One Sales & Marketing Platform built for agencies, by an agency.​ 🚀 Capture leads, nurture them, and close more deals—all from one powerful platform.​ 🎁 Get an extended free trial at gohighlevel.com/travis Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode, host Travis Chappell answers a big-picture question from producer Eric: What is your current investment philosophy—and how has it changed since your first deal? He walks through hard-won lessons from real estate flips, angel bets, crypto, and his own failed startup to explain why most people should stop trying to “beat the market” and focus on boring, compounding plays instead.​ On this episode we talk about: Travis’ early “invest in yourself and real estate” mindset—and what he actually got right from the start How chasing deals he did not fully understand (random startups, friend projects, private loans) mostly went to zero Why even elite angel investors like Jason Calacanis expect the vast majority of deals to fail Dan Fleyshman’s rough allocation model: most into low-risk, compounding assets (index funds/blue-chip stocks), a slice into medium-risk plays (like real estate), and a small “home run” bucket for angel/venture-type bets Why Travis now sees the S&P 500 and broad market exposure as a better default than stock-picking or timing trades Regrets about selling real estate too soon and why his rule now is “never sell if humanly possible” How he currently thinks about crypto (Bitcoin/Ethereum-heavy, minimal alt-coins) and why he treats big swings as speculation, not core investing The crucial distinction between investing (long-term, compounding, boring) and speculating (fun, risky, totally optional) Top 3 Takeaways You are probably not going to beat the market. Unless investing is your full-time job, broad, diversified, long-term holdings will almost always outperform your attempts to time or outsmart the market. Real estate rewards patience, not flipping for quick cash. Selling properties early to free up a bit of short-term liquidity often means walking away from six-figure equity decades later. Speculation should be play money only. Crypto punts, angel rounds, and friend-startup checks belong in a small “casino bucket,” not in the same pile as your retirement and financial freedom money. Notable Quotes “If I had just put what I put into random companies into the S&P, it would be about double today instead of almost zero.” “Most people use 100% of their investing for play money—and then get mad when the ‘big swing’ goes to zero.” “Time in the market beats timing the market. Put it in, let it ride, and stop trying to be a wizard trader.”​ ✖️✖️✖️✖️ 🚀 Travis Makes Money is made possible by High Level – the All-In-One Sales & Marketing Platform built for agencies, by an agency.​ 🚀 Capture leads, nurture them, and close more deals—all from one powerful platform.​ 🎁 Get an extended free trial at gohighlevel.com/travis Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode, host Travis Chappell and producer Eric wrestle with one deceptively simple question: What does “enough” money actually look like? The conversation ranges from private jets and yachts to first-class flights, five-star dinners, and court-side sports experiences—and why most people wildly overestimate what it takes to live an extraordinary, but not billionaire-level, life.​ On this episode we talk about: Travis’ personal definition of “enough”: first-class flights, five-star dining, great seats at games and concerts, and rich family travel—without obsessively checking the bank app Why jets, yachts, and 17,000-square-foot mansions are not actually part of his goals How friends use money to buy unforgettable experiences (like chatting with Shohei Ohtani from behind the dugout or sitting courtside during NBA playoffs) The tradeoff between Grant Cardone/Alex Hormozi-level drive and the time cost of maintaining that lifestyle Why you must adjust either your goals or your expectations if you are not willing to work like an ultra-elite entrepreneur Data on what it really takes to be top 10% and top 1% income in the U.S.—and why that number is lower than most people guess Why an “extraordinary life” is more attainable than social media makes it seem if you define it thoughtfully Top 3 Takeaways “Enough” is personal—but it must be specific. For Travis, it is the freedom to buy high-quality experiences (travel, dining, memories with kids) without financial anxiety, not owning every luxury toy on earth. Ultra-wealth has a workload attached. If you want billionaire-style outcomes, you must be honest about whether you are truly willing to live the grind that level requires; if not, recalibrate. Extraordinary doesn’t require billions. Hitting high-six-figure or low-seven-figure income and net worth—combined with sane spending choices—can fund a rich, experience-filled life for most people. Notable Quotes “I’m not chasing a jet and a yacht. I just want to take my family to Italy for three weeks and not worry about staying in a sketchy hostel.” “If you’re not willing to work like Grant Cardone, you probably shouldn’t expect Grant Cardone’s life.” “Extraordinary is only one or two levels above where most people are now—not some impossible billionaire mountain.”​ ✖️✖️✖️✖️ 🚀 Travis Makes Money is made possible by High Level – the All-In-One Sales & Marketing Platform built for agencies, by an agency.​ 🚀 Capture leads, nurture them, and close more deals—all from one powerful platform.​ 🎁 Get an extended free trial at gohighlevel.com/travis Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode, host Travis Chappell and producer Eric dig into one of the most dangerous trends in personal finance right now: exploding consumer debt from credit cards and “buy now, pay later” services—and what it reveals about how people actually spend. Using fresh data on U.S. credit card balances and global BNPL usage, they unpack why financing sneakers and burritos is wrecking budgets and what to do instead if you are serious about building wealth.​ On this episode we talk about: Why total U.S. credit card debt has climbed to roughly $1.33 trillion and what that means for everyday households How global “buy now, pay later” balances have surged to an estimated $560 billion, mostly for low‑ticket, nonessential items The top BNPL categories: clothing/fashion, electronics, furniture, and a fast‑growing share going to groceries How big-box stores and delivery apps now let you finance everyday purchases at checkout Why using debt for shoes, hoodies, and gadgets is fundamentally different from financing an HVAC unit or medical bill The psychological impact of seeing 4,000–10,000 marketing messages per day and how that fuels overspending Why blaming the economy while financing lifestyle purchases is a losing combo Practical alternatives: thrift stores, discount retailers, and simply opting out of nonessential buys Top 3 Takeaways If you have to finance it, you probably cannot afford it. Outside of big essentials like housing, transportation, or critical repairs, using credit or BNPL for clothes, tech, or takeout is a red flag. BNPL is still debt, even if it does not hit your credit report (yet). Spreading $60 here and $120 there across Klarna and Affirm quietly piles up into a bill that kills your ability to build wealth. You cannot out-complain your way to financial freedom. The economy may be tough, but personal discipline—saying no to financed lifestyle purchases and focusing on increasing income—is nonnegotiable. Notable Quotes “If you are financing sneakers and handbags and complaining about your finances, you have no right to be complaining.” “Just because it doesn’t show up on your credit report doesn’t mean it’s free money—you still have to pay it back.” “Our parents were dealt a different hand; this is ours. Complaining about housing prices while running up BNPL on clothes is not a strategy.” ✖️✖️✖️✖️ 🚀 Travis Makes Money is made possible by High Level – the All-In-One Sales & Marketing Platform built for agencies, by an agency.​ 🚀 Capture leads, nurture them, and close more deals—all from one powerful platform.​ 🎁 Get an extended free trial at gohighlevel.com/travis Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode, host Travis Chappell and producer Eric react to a spicy clip from personal finance expert Ramit Sethi about why most people have no business obsessing over “generational wealth” when they are still buried in debt and struggling with basic money habits. The conversation turns into a practical breakdown of whose advice to follow, when ultra‑rich guidance stops applying to you, and how Travis’ parents quietly passed him real financial advantage without ever cutting him a big check.​ On this episode we talk about: Why “generational wealth” has become a trendy TikTok buzzword—and why that’s a problem if you have credit card debt How to filter advice from billionaires, gurus, and influencers so you do not copy the wrong things at the wrong stage The difference between how wealthy people built their money versus what they say now that they are already rich Why copying Tony Robbins’ ice baths or a bodybuilder’s current routine will not get you their results How Travis’ parents taught him to tithe, save, and spend with a simple three‑slot piggy bank system Turning childhood savings into a first duplex in a rough neighborhood and what that deal taught him about delayed gratification Why dumping money on kids without money education often ruins them Practical ways Travis is teaching his own kids to connect work, math, and money (and why he makes them buy their own “extras”) Top 3 Takeaways Sequence matters. Generational wealth is a later‑stage concern; if you are in debt, can’t afford housing, or investing almost nothing, your focus should be getting stable, increasing income, and building basic assets first. Copy the early steps, not the end state. Look at what successful people did when they were two or three steps ahead of you, not what they say or do after decades of wealth and security. Knowledge is the real inheritance. Teaching kids how money works—earning, saving, investing, trade‑offs—often does more for their long‑term wealth than writing a massive check. Notable Quotes “Just because someone is 40 steps ahead of you doesn’t mean their current advice applies to where you are right now.” “My parents didn’t just give me money; they taught me what to do with the money I earned.” “You don’t get money just for existing—if you want extra stuff, you learn to earn it.”​ ✖️✖️✖️✖️ 🚀 Travis Makes Money is made possible by High Level – the All-In-One Sales & Marketing Platform built for agencies, by an agency.​ 🚀 Capture leads, nurture them, and close more deals—all from one powerful platform.​ 🎁 Get an extended free trial at gohighlevel.com/travis Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode, host Travis Chappell and producer Eric swap stories about the strangest, most unconventional ways people are making real money—from TikTok shops to doodle detanglers—and how “weird” ideas can turn into serious income. Travis also opens up about his own nontraditional paths to getting paid, from door-to-door sales to a short-lived modeling side quest. On this episode we talk about: Creators making $40–50K/month purely from TikTok Shop affiliate commissions with no physical products How an eight-figure landscaper turned his experience into “Uber for lawn care” with the GreenPal app Flea market and Facebook Marketplace flippers who drive around, buy underpriced items, and resell them on eBay for five-figure profits on single deals A niche e‑commerce brand built around a single problem: detangling doodle dog hair and scaling it to seven figures Remote “job stacking” and how one guest runs three work‑from‑home jobs for a combined multiple six‑figure salary Travis’ own unconventional income streams: podcast sponsorships, coaching days, Facebook Reels payouts, and even a paid modeling gig in college Top 3 Takeaways Weird often wins. The money is frequently in ultra-specific problems—like doodle hair detanglers or lawn-mowing logistics—rather than trendy, crowded ideas. Distribution is a cheat code. Platforms like TikTok Shop, Facebook Reels, and niche apps can turn other people’s products and systems into meaningful cash flow if you understand how to drive attention. “Unconventional” is the new normal. Door-to-door sales, stacked remote jobs, arbitrage flipping, and content monetization show there are many viable ways to earn beyond a traditional 9–5. Notable Quotes “He doesn’t even have products—it’s all affiliate. He just cranks out videos and commissions.” “You can build a seven‑figure business solving one really specific problem… even if it is just tangled doodle hair.” “Almost everything I’ve done to make money has been the nontraditional route.” ✖️✖️✖️✖️ 🚀 Travis Makes Money is made possible by High Level – the All-In-One Sales & Marketing Platform built for agencies, by an agency. 🚀 Capture leads, nurture them, and close more deals—all from one powerful platform. 🎁 Get an extended free trial at gohighlevel.com/travis Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode, host Travis Chappell and producer Eric run through ten rapid‑fire “two‑minute” money scenarios—from surprise IRS letters to flooded houses and hidden luxury spending—to reveal how Travis actually thinks under pressure. The conversation blends practical frameworks, blackjack metaphors, and relationship dynamics to show how to make saner decisions when cash gets tight or emotions run high.​ On this episode we talk about: What Travis would really do if he found $1,000 on the street How he’d handle a surprise $15,000 IRS back‑tax bill What happens if a relative leaves him a $50,000 windfall The first expenses he’d cut if his income went to zero overnight How he’d respond to a business cash crunch (without immediately raising money) Spotting obvious crypto scams that promise “30% monthly guaranteed” Whether he’d ever buy a luxury watch and how he’d think about resale value Why he prefers funding individuals in need over big, bloated charities What he’d do if rent was due with no emergency fund How he’d handle discovering $5,000 of unplanned luxury spending in the family budget Top 3 Takeaways Have a default plan for every major category. Knowing in advance how you’ll handle windfalls, tax surprises, medical bills, and income loss keeps you from reacting emotionally and blowing up your long‑term goals. Speculation is fine—if it is truly play money. Whether it is blackjack or alt‑coins, any high‑risk bet should be money you are fully prepared to lose, not rent or retirement funds. Money and relationships are tightly linked. From lending to family to surprise spending, clear communication, shared visibility (via tools like budgeting apps), and firm boundaries matter as much as the dollars themselves. Notable Quotes “The boring answer is I’d probably just put it in the bank. The fun answer is I’d probably go play blackjack.” “You haven’t discovered the secret 30‑percent‑a‑month investment. If it were real, every hedge fund on the planet would already be in it.” “I’ll take care of what needs to be taken care of. Anything extra you want, you need to learn how to earn.”​ ✖️✖️✖️✖️ 🚀 Travis Makes Money is made possible by High Level – the All-In-One Sales & Marketing Platform built for agencies, by an agency.​ 🚀 Capture leads, nurture them, and close more deals—all from one powerful platform.​ 🎁 Get an extended free trial at gohighlevel.com/travis Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode, host Travis Chappell and producer Eric run through a series of real‑world “curveball” scenarios—from surprise medical bills to flooded houses and lowball dream-job offers—to talk through how to respond without blowing up your finances. With a mix of humor, baseball metaphors, and practical frameworks, they show how to build decision rules that keep you calm and rational when life gets messy.​ On this episode we talk about: When to repair, replace, or go down to one car after a breakdown How to negotiate surprise medical bills and when to just pay them A $5,000 family loan request: help, enable, or say no? Whether to ever take a “dream job” that pays 30% less than you currently earn How a surprise baby would (and wouldn’t) change Travis’ budget Funding a child’s gap year vs. making them pay their own way Using an emergency fund when your home floods and insurance denies the claim Evaluating “sure thing” investment tips from strangers Turning down paid speaking gigs or opportunities that could damage your brand Top 3 Takeaways Decide your rules before the curveball hits. Knowing in advance how you handle cars, medical bills, loans, and emergencies keeps you from making emotional, expensive decisions in the moment. Help without enabling. Supporting family or kids financially is generous, but repeatedly rescuing adults from the consequences of bad decisions only keeps them stuck. Protect brand and autonomy over short-term cash. Whether it is a lower-paying dream job or a shady speaking lineup, long-term reputation and control usually matter more than the immediate paycheck. Notable Quotes “With medical bills, always negotiate first—those numbers are almost never the real numbers.” “I’ll take care of what needs to be taken care of. Anything extra you want, you need to learn how to earn.” “Brand is everything. A good name is rather to be chosen than great riches.” Connect with Travis Chappell: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/travischappell​ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/travischappell​ Website: https://travischappell.com​ ✖️✖️✖️✖️ 🚀 Travis Makes Money is made possible by High Level – the All-In-One Sales & Marketing Platform built for agencies, by an agency.​ 🚀 Capture leads, nurture them, and close more deals—all from one powerful platform.​ 🎁 Get an extended free trial at gohighlevel.com/travis Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode, host Travis Chappell and producer Eric break down missed opportunities, painful losses, and fraud-adjacent stories to show how real-world investors actually think through risk. Using everything from crypto FOMO to Shark Tank misses and Ponzi-style funds, they explore how to build a rational investing framework that can survive both wins and wipeouts.​ On this episode we talk about: Passing on early opportunities like crypto and what that really cost over time Famous “missed deals” like Ring and other Shark Tank passes that later exploded How to emotionally process investments that go to zero—even when they seemed “safe” Why trying to “beat the market” usually backfires for non-professional investors The blackjack analogy for setting clear investing rules and sticking to them Angel investing math: why most startups fail and what that means for your checks A real story of an investor-turned-felon running a quasi‑Ponzi fund How seemingly smart people slide from aggressive bets into outright fraud Why Travis shifted from big swings to boring, low‑risk, long‑term investments Top 3 Takeaways Losses are inevitable, so you need rules before you need returns. Approaching investing like blackjack—accepting losses as part of the game and sticking to a predetermined strategy—keeps you from going on emotional “tilt” after a bad beat. Most private deals will fail, even with “strong” founders. Angel and alternative investments should be treated as high‑risk, small‑allocation bets—not as the foundation of your net worth. Boring usually wins over time. For long‑term wealth, broad, diversified, low‑chance‑of‑zero investments (like major index funds) are a far more reliable base than chasing the next Uber or crypto rocket ship. Notable Quotes “You have to set rules and then stick to the rules—because losses are part of the game.” “You’re not going to beat the market. Ray Dalio can’t consistently beat the market, and he’s the best in the world.” “There’s no truly ‘no‑risk’ investment. If someone promises that, they’re either lying or they’re going to prison.”​ ✖️✖️✖️✖️ 🚀 Travis Makes Money is made possible by High Level – the All-In-One Sales & Marketing Platform built for agencies, by an agency.​ 🚀 Capture leads, nurture them, and close more deals—all from one powerful platform.​ 🎁 Get an extended free trial at gohighlevel.com/travis Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This episode features host Travis Chappell and producer Eric having a rapid-fire, hilarious, and surprisingly deep “Would You Rather” session built entirely around money, investing, and lifestyle tradeoffs. Using a list of AI-generated prompts, they unpack how real people should think about risk, retirement, lifestyle creep, and building wealth with their actual constraints in mind.​ On this episode we talk about: Whether to take $10 million today or $1 million a year for life Swinging for a 10x moonshot vs. locking in an 8% return forever Being “early to the next Apple” versus compounding slower, safer returns Choosing between keeping your investments or keeping your business Building one $100M company that burns you out vs. multiple smaller businesses you love Working 80-hour weeks for a few years to make work optional vs. coasting forever Unlimited VC money with no control vs. slow, bootstrapped freedom Fame with no privacy vs. quiet wealth no one sees Driving a paid-off Toyota with rentals vs. renting a house with a Lambo Taking a $250K job you hate vs. $75K doing work you love Top 3 Takeaways Safe, consistent returns beat reckless moonshots—especially early on. Travis leans toward guaranteed growth and stacking cash first, then taking bigger swings once a solid base is built. Your best wealth-building lever at first is income, not investments. Until your portfolio can support you, your business and skills are the engine that funds long-term wealth. Money decisions are really lifestyle decisions. Tradeoffs like privacy vs. fame, burnout vs. freedom, and hating a high-paying job vs. loving a lower-paying one matter more than raw dollar amounts. Notable Quotes “Get to a hundred grand, then put as much money as you can into the safe thing before you go start playing around.” “The goal isn’t retirement; the goal is to make work optional.” “There’s a massive difference between having to work to eat and choosing to work because you love what you do.”​ ✖️✖️✖️✖️ 🚀 Travis Makes Money is made possible by High Level – the All-In-One Sales & Marketing Platform built for agencies, by an agency.​ 🚀 Capture leads, nurture them, and close more deals—all from one powerful platform.​ 🎁 Get an extended free trial at gohighlevel.com/travis Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This solo-style episode features host Travis Chappell in a vulnerable, highly practical conversation with his producer Eric about how so‑called “flaws” shape your career, income, and long-term direction. Together, they explore internal validation, boredom, sales, and why entrepreneurship can be a better fit for people who crave variety and new challenges.​ On this episode we talk about: Why Travis’ biggest flaw is internalizing failure more than success How external validation and upbringing shape your “internal thermostat” for success The “flaw” of getting bored quickly and how it led Travis from sales into podcasting How bouncing between solar, alarms, water, and other products left money on the table Why commission checks are never truly “uncapped” and what pushed Travis toward online business How entrepreneurship provides new problems to solve beyond just “sell more” A simple two-part filter for deciding which feedback and advice to ignore Top 3 Takeaways Internalizing failure more than success silently caps your potential. If you only replay your mistakes and never allow yourself to own your wins, your “internal thermostat” will drag you back down the moment you start exceeding your self‑image. A trait that looks like a flaw can become a superpower in the right vehicle. Getting bored quickly hurt Travis’ sales career, but it became an advantage in podcasting and entrepreneurship, where curiosity and variety are essential. Not all advice is worth following—even from successful people. Use both gut intuition and a “would I trade lives with them?” test across business, family, and personal values before you let someone’s feedback reshape your path. Notable Quotes “I tend to downplay anything that I do well and overexaggerate anything that I do poorly.” “If you believe you’re only capable of something at a certain level, the second you push past it, your internal thermostat resets you back down.” “Never take advice from someone you wouldn’t want to trade places with—not just in business, but in every area of life.”​ ✖️✖️✖️✖️ 🚀 Travis Makes Money is made possible by High Level – the All-In-One Sales & Marketing Platform built for agencies, by an agency.​ 🚀 Capture leads, nurture them, and close more deals—all from one powerful platform.​ 🎁 Get an extended free trial at gohighlevel.com/travis Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode, Travis and his producer Eric dive into what to do when the people around you—friends, collaborators, or industry peers—start making public choices that feel off-brand, unethical, or just flat-out embarrassing. They talk through when to quietly distance yourself, when to speak up, and how to manage association risk in a space where stages, podcasts, and social feeds are all interconnected.​ On this episode we talk about: How Travis thinks about friends or peers who start associating with questionable people (e.g., certain network marketing leaders) and why proximity can change how much he intervenes.​ The practical ways he “distances” himself: fewer recommendations, less collaboration, muting/unfollowing, and quietly stepping back from certain events or lineups.​ Why he almost never publicly “calls people out,” and how he uses a sleep-on-it rule to avoid drama-driven content that doesn’t match who he wants to be.​ The responsibility that comes with doing exposé-style or investigative content, and why putting your real name behind accusations matters.​ How event panels could be more interesting if hosts deliberately surface disagreement instead of running a string of safe mini–TED Talks.​ Top 3 Takeaways Your level of involvement should match your level of relationship: close friends may warrant a direct, private conversation; distant acquaintances usually just warrant distance.​ Quietly stepping back—stop recommending, stop collaborating, mute or unfollow—is often more productive than jumping into public call-out culture.​ If you’re going to publicly challenge someone’s character or business practices, you owe it to everyone involved to fact-check, seek multiple perspectives, and be willing to put your own name on the line.​ Notable Quotes “It’s not up to me to decide whether someone should use their platform for something just because I wouldn’t—but I can decide how close I want to be to it.”​ “You can’t shake off that filth as quickly as you’d like to; who you share a stage with matters.”​ “Don’t completely write people off; if the relationship matters, at least try to understand their perspective before you walk away.”​ ✖️✖️✖️✖️ 🚀 Travis Makes Money is made possible by High Level – the All-In-One Sales & Marketing Platform built for agencies, by an agency.​ 🚀 Capture leads, nurture them, and close more deals—all from one powerful platform.​ 🎁 Get an extended free trial at gohighlevel.com/travis Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode, Travis and his producer Eric unpack how seemingly tiny decisions—good and bad—quietly compound into massive outcomes over time. Using the classic “tortoise and the hare” story as a metaphor, they talk through why consistent, boring actions often beat flashy sprints, especially in business and wealth-building.​ On this episode we talk about: The “tortoise vs. hare” mindset and why consistency beats short bursts of unsustainable effort in entrepreneurship.​ Why starting to create content early in his journey is one of the smallest but highest-leverage decisions Travis ever made.​ How old podcast episodes and clips continue to generate leads, sales, and brand equity years after they were created.​ The hidden cost of splitting focus too early—spinning up new offers, platforms, and projects instead of scaling what’s already working.​ Why “small leaks” in systems (like weak onboarding or poor follow-up) become major problems once you start to scale.​ Top 3 Takeaways Creating content consistently is a tiny, repeatable decision that can produce outsized returns for years, especially as platforms and AI keep indexing and resurfacing your work.​ The fastest path to growth is usually doubling and tripling down on what’s already working, not constantly chasing new offers, channels, or “shiny objects.”​ Small operational problems—like sloppy onboarding or neglected client communication—may look minor at low volume but can become business-threatening cracks in the dam once you scale.​ Notable Quotes “Content works for you while you sleep; it’s still one of the most underrated, highest-leverage activities a business owner can do.”​ “Most of the time you are not tapped out on what’s working—you just got bored and started looking for new stuff.”​ “Every action compounds over time; small good decisions compound positively, and small bad ones compound negatively.”​ ✖️✖️✖️✖️ 🚀 Travis Makes Money is made possible by High Level – the All-In-One Sales & Marketing Platform built for agencies, by an agency.​ 🚀 Capture leads, nurture them, and close more deals—all from one powerful platform.​ 🎁 Get an extended free trial at gohighlevel.com/travis Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode, Travis and his producer Eric have fun with icebreaker prompts (“What would you do if you had to double $10,000 in 30 days?”) before diving into how better questions shape better decisions, careers, and relationships. They break down the most powerful questions to ask yourself, to ask mentors, and to ask before you jump into any new opportunity.​ On this episode we talk about: Why Travis likes to ask himself, “This sucks, but what’s the alternative?” and how that reframes hard seasons, workouts, parenting, and business grind without needing fake positivity.​ The importance of accepting that every meaningful path has its own kind of “suck,” and why trying to escape all discomfort leads to purposeless, unfulfilling stretches of life.​ The key mentor question: “Who do you know that I should know?”—and how that opens doors to new people, books, and resources beyond the mentor’s own answers.​ The opportunity filter: asking “What is the absolute worst-case scenario?” and actually writing it out so fear shrinks to its real size instead of staying vague and paralyzing.​ Why Travis dislikes questions like “How can I add value to you?” and “What should I be asking you?” when they’re lazy stand-ins for preparation or self-aware strategy.​ Top 3 Takeaways The quality of your life and results is closely tied to the quality of the questions you ask yourself and others.​ Before saying yes to new opportunities, force yourself to define the true worst-case scenario; most of the time, it’s survivable and not nearly as catastrophic as your fear suggests.​ Great mentors are often most valuable as connectors; asking who they know that you should know can compound your network and knowledge far beyond one conversation.​ Notable Quotes “This sucks, but what’s the alternative?”​ “If you’re asking the wrong questions, you’re probably going to end up with the wrong answers.”​ “That ‘how can I add value to you?’ question is often a self-serving question disguised as an others-serving question.”​ ✖️✖️✖️✖️ 🚀 Travis Makes Money is made possible by High Level – the All-In-One Sales & Marketing Platform built for agencies, by an agency.​ 🚀 Capture leads, nurture them, and close more deals—all from one powerful platform.​ 🎁 Get an extended free trial at gohighlevel.com/travis Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this solo-style episode, Travis and his producer Eric react to a viral Dave Ramsey clip where Dave flexes having a zero credit score while owning a campus worth roughly $500 million—and use it to unpack how “no credit, no debt ever” advice lands for people who aren’t billionaires. The conversation explores the tension between hating the credit system, still needing to function inside it, and the practical realities of renting apartments, buying cars, and getting mortgages in the real world.​ On this episode we talk about: Dave Ramsey’s “my FICO score is zero” flex, why it’s objectively impressive, and why it doesn’t translate cleanly to normal earners.​ How the credit system actually works in practice—hard inquiries, utilization, and why Travis once saw his score drop to the high 500s despite never missing a payment.​ The difference between disagreeing with how the game is set up and refusing to play it at all when you still need housing, transportation, or business funding.​ Why obsessing over cutting every $10 expense is usually less productive than figuring out how to earn more so gas prices and coupon clipping stop running your life.​ The line between using credit as a tool (responsibly) and using “points hacking” as an excuse for financial gymnastics that don’t move the needle.​ Top 3 Takeaways The credit system is deeply flawed, but pretending it doesn’t exist usually hurts regular people far more than it hurts multimillionaires who can just write checks.​ A strong credit profile—on-time payments, low utilization, limited hard inquiries—gives you options: better rates, easier approvals, and real emergency flexibility.​ It’s more powerful to focus on making more money and using the system intelligently than to chase the moral high ground of having no credit score at all.​ Notable Quotes “I agree the system is dumb—but also, it’s the system that’s there.”​ “It’s objectively better to have a good credit score than to have no credit score or a bad one.”​ “You’re doing more mental gymnastics to brag that you have no credit score than you would be just managing a couple of cards responsibly.”​ ✖️✖️✖️✖️ 🚀 Travis Makes Money is made possible by High Level – the All-In-One Sales & Marketing Platform built for agencies, by an agency.​ 🚀 Capture leads, nurture them, and close more deals—all from one powerful platform.​ 🎁 Get an extended free trial at gohighlevel.com/travis Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Dr. Michael Breus—known worldwide as “The Sleep Doctor”—is a clinical psychologist, board-certified sleep specialist, bestselling author, and one of the ten most influential people in sleep. He’s appeared on The Dr. Oz Show around 40 times, was named the top sleep specialist in California by Reader’s Digest, and has spent over 25 years helping executives, entrepreneurs, and high performers use sleep as a true performance enhancer instead of treating it like a weakness.​ On this episode we talk about: Why “sleep is for the weak” is terrible advice for entrepreneurs, and how poor sleep quietly wrecks resilience, safety, creativity, and business performance.​ The truth about “how many hours you really need,” why 8 hours is a myth, and why consistently needing 9–10 hours is actually a red flag.​ How stress (physical, emotional, spiritual, and business-related) changes your sleep needs, and why waking up feeling good is the real metric that matters.​ The reality of wearables like Whoop and Oura: what data is useful, what’s inaccurate, and how to avoid letting your sleep score hijack your day.​ Chronotypes (night owl vs. morning lark), why they’re genetic, and how aligning your schedule with your type can dramatically increase productivity.​ Top 3 Takeaways Eight hours is not a universal rule—sleep need is individual, but less than six hours consistently hurts reaction time, decision-making, and creativity, all of which are crucial for making money.​ Most wearables are decent at telling you when you slept and woke up, but bad at sleep stages; use them to spot trends, not to obsess over nightly scores.​ Aligning your work, workout, and wind-down times with your chronotype (your genetic sleep–wake preference) can make you more productive without forcing “5 a.m. hustle” that fights your biology.​ Notable Quotes “Eight hours is a myth—not everybody in the universe needs eight hours of sleep.”​ “If you’re getting less than six hours, that’s when reaction time drops and things become highly problematic.”​ “There’s no universe where your wearable is accurate, but it can be consistently inaccurate—and that’s still useful if you look for trends.”​ Connect with Dr. Michael Breus: Website: thesleepdoctor.com​ Chronotype quiz: chronoquiz.com ✖️✖️✖️✖️ 🚀 Travis Makes Money is made possible by High Level – the All-In-One Sales & Marketing Platform built for agencies, by an agency.​ 🚀 Capture leads, nurture them, and close more deals—all from one powerful platform.​ 🎁 Get an extended free trial at gohighlevel.com/travis Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode, Travis and his producer Eric break down how to think about relationships in business—from early-stage networking, to picking partners, to knowing when it’s time to walk away. Using personal stories (including a near “bridge-burning” moment that later turned into a restored friendship and new deals), Travis lays out a practical framework for building a network that actually supports your goals without turning you into a ruthless opportunist. On this episode we talk about: Why, early on, you should say “yes” a lot, go to events, and focus on volume and exposure instead of over‑filtering people too soon. How to distinguish between true business partners (like a marriage) and looser collaborations or joint ventures—and why the standards are different. What to look for in deeper partnerships: aligned values, shared vision, complementary skills, and genuine trust. When and how to end client or partner relationships that are technically profitable but are destroying your mental energy. The danger of “covert contracts” in friendships and business—unspoken expectations that, when violated, lead to resentment and broken relationships. Top 3 Takeaways Early in your career, prioritize exposure and reps: go places, meet people, and let real‑world interactions teach you what you actually value in partners and peers. Ending a partnership isn’t just about money; it’s about whether the relationship still serves both parties without draining your time, energy, and integrity. Before burning a bridge, ask what part you played in the breakdown, own your side, and rebuild your half of the bridge—you might recover a valuable relationship later. Notable Quotes “You don’t want all your time taken up by people who have no goals—but that doesn’t make them bad people. It just means you need to go find others who share your ambitions.” “Your job in sales and business is not to ‘win’ against people; if only you win, that’s a problem.” “Most broken partnerships are fueled by covert contracts—agreements you wrote in your head that the other person never actually signed.” ✖️✖️✖️✖️ 🚀 Travis Makes Money is made possible by High Level – the All-In-One Sales & Marketing Platform built for agencies, by an agency. 🚀 Capture leads, nurture them, and close more deals—all from one powerful platform. 🎁 Get an extended free trial at gohighlevel.com/travis Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

PGA Tour veteran Jay Delsing is a nationally syndicated host of Golf with Jay Delsing, a member of the Missouri Sports Hall of Fame, and author of You Wouldn’t Believe Me If I Told You: An Unforgettable Memoir of Golf, Grit, and a Blue-Collar Kid on the PGA Tour. From a modest, sports-obsessed upbringing in St. Louis to earning his PGA Tour card and building a hospitality business around pro-ams, Jay brings rare behind-the-scenes stories and practical wisdom on relationships, mindset, and money.​ On this episode we talk about: How a blue-collar kid from St. Louis earned a scholarship to UCLA and eventually a PGA Tour card Why caddying as a teenager became Jay’s masterclass in soft skills, networking, and dealing with high achievers Wild stories from the course with Sean Connery, George Lucas, Steven Spielberg, Arnold Palmer, and Jack Nicklaus How Jay turned pro-am rounds into a multi-decade hospitality and entertainment business using simple follow-up tactics The mindset, gratitude practices, and “soft skills” he believes will separate winners in the next generation of business Top 3 Takeaways Deep competence in anything (golf, guitar, business, whatever) combined with soft skills and respect will open doors you can’t predict. Small, “old school” touches like handwritten notes, genuine gratitude, and being great at the bottom rung of the ladder still massively differentiate you. You get more of whatever you focus on—shifting from excuses and victimhood to ownership and opportunity is a non‑negotiable money and life skill. Notable Quotes “You get what you think the most about.” “Write handwritten notes to people. Nobody does that now—and that’s exactly why it works.” “You don’t have to be good at golf, just don’t be an ass. People do business with people they enjoy being around.” Connect with Jay Delsing: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jay-delsing-83142914​ Twitter/X: https://x.com/JayDelsing​ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jaydelsinggolf​ Other: https://jaydelsinggolf.com​ ✖️✖️✖️✖️ 🚀 Travis Makes Money is made possible by High Level – the All-In-One Sales & Marketing Platform built for agencies, by an agency. 🚀 Capture leads, nurture them, and close more deals—all from one powerful platform. 🎁 Get an extended free trial at gohighlevel.com/travis Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Producer Eric joins Travis for a door-to-door sales deep dive, pulling from years of real-world canvassing experience in security, solar, and church outreach. From getting chased by dogs and dealing with “ostrich” homeowners to dissecting viral sales clips, this episode turns war stories into a practical masterclass on how to sell at the door without being sleazy or burning out.​ On this episode we talk about: Why door-to-door is still one of the fastest skill-building & income-boosting paths for young hustlers The fine line between having fun at the doors and sabotaging your own pitch Why “I know you hate door-to-door guys” is a terrible opener—and what to say instead How to reframe objections (“That’s exactly why I’m here…”) and handle competitors without trash-talking them Ethics and strategy around “No Soliciting” signs, and how being older, a parent, and a homeowner changes the way you see canvassing Why pest control can be a sleeper-hit business model with strong recurring revenue and scalable door-to-door teams​ Top 3 Takeaways Never lead with shame or apology at the door; if you act like you’re a nuisance, the prospect will believe you and treat you that way. Reframe objections as openings: “That’s exactly why I’m here” keeps the conversation going and gives you time to build trust instead of slamming the door on yourself. Long term, the real money in door-to-door is often in owning the recurring-revenue business (like pest control) and building commission-only sales teams to feed it.​ Notable Quotes “Half your job as a door-to-door guy is just to get them to talk to you longer so you have time to earn trust.” “When you start telling people you’re annoying them, you eventually believe it—and you start selling like it.” “There are unlimited doors; you don’t need to win the ones that literally put a sign up saying they don’t want you there.”​ ✖️✖️✖️✖️ 🚀 Travis Makes Money is made possible by High Level – the All-In-One Sales & Marketing Platform built for agencies, by an agency. 🚀 Capture leads, nurture them, and close more deals—all from one powerful platform. 🎁 Get an extended free trial at gohighlevel.com/travis Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices