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Welcome to Until Saturday, The Athletic's NEW college football podcast. This is your home for everything college football. Join Ari Wasserman, David Ubben, Nicole Auerbach, Max Olson, Chris Vannini, Sam Khan Jr., and The Athletic's CFB staff as they break down the game we all love.

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The wait is finally over. After a decade-long absence, EA Sports' next installment of their college football franchise is here! Chris Vannini and Ari Wasserman share their early review of EA College Football 25. The duo dissect the gameplay, graphics, playbooks, Dynasty Mode, Road to Glory, recruiting and much, much more! Later in the show, former West Virginia quarterback and NCAA video game cheat code, Pat White, joins the show along with The Athletic's Chris Kamrani! Pat voices his thoughts on the game's cultural impact, and how he fits into that picture. Plus, a look back at some of his favorite moments as a Mountaineer. Read Chris Kamrani's Pat White/WVU story: https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5622408/2024/07/08/college-football-25-west-virginia-top-teams/ Watch the review on YouTube: https://youtu.be/e99aNwH3_-4 Rundown: - Our early review of EA Sports College Football 25! (:15) - One big takeaway (2:15) - Gamplay, graphics and playbooks (4:45) - Dynasty Mode + recruiting realism (17:00) - Road to Glory and more (30:30) - Criticisms (39:15) - Pat White joins the show! (46:45) Call/text the Until Saturday phone and leave us a question for a future mailbag and/or Sunday Sound-Off podcast: (316) 462-9852 Subscribe to the FREE Until Saturday newletter:: https://theathletic.com/newsletters/until-saturday Host: Chris Vannini (@ChrisVannini) With: Ari Wasserman, Chris Kamrani & Pat White (@AriWasserman, @chriskamrani, @patcwhite) Executive producer (audio + video): Cam Molina (@commentatorcam) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
How does one coach's decision affect over 400 people? Ari Wasserman, Max Olson and Sam Khan Jr. explain how Nick Saban's retirement caused hundreds of staffers, coaches, analysts, and familes' lives to change. From Alabama to Nebraska Kearney and Washington to Fernandina Beach HS the ripple effects are expansive. Brett Yormark preached innovation and growth for the Big 12 conference at media days, and went as far as to say his league is third best in the nation. Are they ahead of the ACC? Who will emerge as the league's alpha dog? Plus, EA CFB 25 player ratings and final countdown! Read Chris' story about Big 12 marketing: https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5628106/2024/07/10/brett-yormark-big-12-pac-12/ Read Justin's story about the need for a Big 12 powerhouse: https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5629665/2024/07/11/big-12-football-parity-brand-name/ Rundown: - Nick Saban Butterfly Effect (3:15) - Second chances for coaches + how fast things move (17:00) - The Big 12 needs an alpha dog (27:30) - Big 12 vs ACC health (41:30) - Mike Gundy & consequences (56:00) - EA Sports CFB 25 ratings + final countdown (1:01:00) Call/text the Until Saturday phone and leave us a question for a future mailbag and/or Sunday Sound-Off podcast: (316) 462-9852 Subscribe to the FREE Until Saturday newletter:: https://theathletic.com/newsletters/until-saturday Host: Ari Wasserman (@AriWasserman) With: Max Olson & Sam Khan Jr. (@max_olson @skhanjr) Executive producer: Cam Molina (@commentatorcam) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
In the final installment of Until Saturday's conference X-factors, Ari Wasserman, Max Olson, and Justin Williams (as well as Sam Khan Jr., whose internet lost the battle against Hurricane Beryl) list their X-factors for each Big 12 program ahead of media days in Las Vegas. Can a trio of young receivers in the state of Texas help their programs to a big year? Will Kansas' newest addition keep Jalon Daniels healthy? Plus, Ari explains the Fast Food Triple Crown while the crew attempts to solve a Skyline Chili mystery. Check out Justin's Big 12 recruiting story: https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5612669/2024/07/05/big-12-recruiting-update-official-visits/ Rundown: - Big 12 preseason poll (3:30) - X-factors: Arizona St., Baylor, West Virginia (15:00) - Colorado, Houston, Kansas St. (20:00) - Iowa St., TCU, Cincinnati (34:30) - Kansas, Texas Tech, UCF (46:30) - Utah, Arizona, BYU, Oklahoma St. (1:05:00) Call/text the Until Saturday phone and leave us a question for a future mailbag and/or Sunday Sound-Off podcast: (316) 462-9852 Subscribe to the FREE Until Saturday newletter:: https://theathletic.com/newsletters/until-saturday Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
As of July 1st, Texas and Oklahoma are official members of the SEC. Ari Wasserman and our SEC pundits at The Athletic, Seth Emerson and Kennington Smith III, list x-factors for every program in the new-look conference. Will a player moving position at Georgia change the complexion of the Bulldogs' defense? Does Alabama have the nation's best OL, and can a true Freshman wide receiver elevate Auburn's offense? Plus, Oklahoma AD Joe Castiglione embraces SEC culture by lobbing a granade at a certain someone in LA. Before then, EA Sports Dynasty Mode mega update! Read Seth's story about how a Supreme Court case impacted CFB TV deals and realignment: https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5600962/2024/07/01/ncaa-college-football-supreme-court-1984/ Rundown: - EA Sports Dynasty Mode deep dive (3:45) - SEC X-factors: Georgia, Tennessee, South Carolina (8:30) - Florida and a Percy Harvin percentage (16:15) - Kentucky & Missouri (20:45) - Alabama & Ole Miss (27:00) - Oklahoma & Lincoln can't catch a break (32:00) - LSU & Vanderbilt (36:45) - Texas, Auburn & Miss St. (43:00) - Texas A&M + Arkansas (49:00) Call/text the Until Saturday phone and leave us a question for a future mailbag and/or Sunday Sound-Off podcast: (316) 462-9852 Subscribe to the FREE Until Saturday newletter:: https://theathletic.com/newsletters/until-saturday Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
We continue our Until Saturday X-factors series with the newly minted 17-team ACC. Our Atlantic Coast Conferece guru, Manny Navarro, jumps on the mic with Ari Wasserman to share his list of impact players this season. Before then, EA Sports revealed their team rankings for the upcoming college football video game. Where did EA Sports get it right and wrong? Plus, Ari compares his pre-season top-10 teams against EA's. Check out our ACC x-factors story: https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5608807/2024/07/02/acc-football-x-factors-damien-martinez-maalik-murphy/ Rundown: - EA Sports CFB 25 team rankings + Ari's top-10 teams vs EA (2:00) - ACC X-factors: Boston College, Cal & Clemson (10:00) - Duke, Florida State & Georgia Tech (16:45) - Louisville, Miami & North Carolina (24:15) - NC State, Pittsburgh & SMU (33:00) - Stanford, Syracuse & Virginia (39:30) - Virginia Tech and Wake Forest (42:45) Call/text the Until Saturday phone and leave us a question for a future mailbag and/or Sunday Sound-Off podcast: (316) 462-9852 Subscribe to the FREE Until Saturday newletter:: https://theathletic.com/newsletters/until-saturday Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Colorado Twitter is EA Sports' #1 fan. College Football 25 is only a few weeks away, and the gracious folks at EA Sports gave us A LOT to talk about, as they published their offensive and defensive rankings on Thursday. Ari Wasserman, Chris Vannini, and Scott Dochterman react to the top-25 lists, and then they share where EA got it wrong. Afterward, who is the x-factor on each Big Ten team? The guys explain each of their picks. Before we roll out, rolling it up is now legal in CFB. Plus, other rule changes. Read about Austin Mock's top-ranked offenses, defenses: https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5595576/2024/06/27/college-football-25-best-defenses-projections/?partner=slack&smid=sl-share Rundown: - EA Sports offensive/defensive rankings (2:30) - Our top-10 teams on offense (13:00) - Defensive rankings (17:30) - Big Ten X-factors (25:30) - Cannabis, unlimited coaches, and more news (1:08:00) Call/text the Until Saturday phone and leave us a question for a future mailbag and/or Sunday Sound-Off podcast: (316) 462-9852 Subscribe to the Until Saturday newletter & join in answering the Question of the Day!: https://theathletic.com/newsletters/until-saturday Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
The dead period has arrived, which presents a great opportunity for Ari Wasserman, Mitch Light, and Manny Navarro to fill you in on everything you need to know about college football recruiting in 2024 through June. From Kalen DeBoer's impressive start enlisting high school talent into the Alabama ranks to Rutgers' and Memphis' hot starts (and USC's cold spell), we have you covered. Read Bruce Feldman's Elite 11 takeaways story: https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5582196/2024/06/22/elite-11-takeaways-jaron-sagapolutele-tavien-st-clair/ Rundown: - Major recruiting storylines (3:00) - Alabama hasn't skipped a beat without Saban...right? (10:00) - What to make of Brent Venables' contract extension (19:00) - Recruiting rankings top-10 teams (25:00) - Hot/cold teams on the recruiting trail: USC, Notre Dame + more (45:30) Call/text the Until Saturday phone and leave us a question for a future mailbag and/or Sunday Sound-Off podcast: (316) 462-9852 Subscribe to the Until Saturday newletter & join in answering the Question of the Day!: https://theathletic.com/newsletters/until-saturday Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
A sleep deprived, but exuberant, David Ubben returns to Until Saturday! He joins Ari Wasserman and Chris Vannini in New York while in New York for a company event. David has been champing at the bit to share his thoughts about recent college football news and developments since being on paternity leave, including EA Sports College Football 25, the best head coaching hires this cycle, hype train teams, private equity, and more! Rundown: - David takes a break from Bluey to talk EA Sports CFB 25! (2:00) - Will CFB 25 be a good tool to learn about players? (9:00) - CFB needs a portal fix (16:00) - The shortsightedness of private equity (23:00) - Are coaches overreacting to future roster limits? (31:00) - The Pac-2's media deal trumps the Pac-12's (44:00) - Best coaching hire of this cycle (49:00) - Hype train teams (58:00) Call/text the Until Saturday phone and leave us a question for a future mailbag and/or Sunday Sound-Off podcast: (316) 462-9852 Subscribe to the Until Saturday newletter & join in answering the Question of the Day!: https://theathletic.com/newsletters/until-saturday Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
What are reasonable and unreasonable expectations for fanbases of some of college football's most interesting teams? Ari Wasserman is joined by The Athletic's Kennington Smith III and Ralph Russo of the Associated Press to solve what rational, and irrational, benchmarks Alabama, Michigan, Colorado, Clemson, and more should hit this season. Kenny and Ralph are subjected to an expectations lightning round before the triumvirate reveal which fanbases are the most irrational. Listen to Ralph on the AP Top 25 College Football Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ap-top-25-college-football-podcast/id1138957862 Read Kenny's SEC schedule breakdown: https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5556938/2024/06/12/sec-football-2024-tv/ Rundown: - Reasonable/unreasonable expectations: Alabama (3:00) - Texas to the moon? (13:00) - Notre Dame standard in '24 (22:30) - Is Ole Miss a National Championship contender? (30:15) - We're the "Michael Jordan of being wrong about Texas A&M" (39:15) - Colorado fans, let's be real (47:00) - Miami boom or bust (52:30) - Clemson, Dabo need to "stand on buisness" (59:30) - Can Michigan win The Game? (1:06:00) - Lightning Round: FSU, Penn State, LSU + more (1:09:30) - Most irrational fanbases (1:12:30) Call/text the Until Saturday phone and leave us a question for a future mailbag and/or Sunday Sound-Off podcast: (316) 462-9852 Subscribe to the Until Saturday newletter & join in answering the Question of the Day!: https://theathletic.com/newsletters/until-saturday Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Chris Vannini and Ari Wasserman discuss reports of the Big 12 and CUSA, among other conferences, exploring private equity investment and selling the naming rights to their conferences. Does the Allstate 12 roll off the tongue? Later, special guest Jessica Smetana, co-host of The Dan Le Betard Show and Notre Dame alumnus, hops on Until Saturday to share her takes on the vibes in South Bend. Afterward, Chris and Jessica nominate major trap games this season. From UCF-Florida to Clemson-App St., where do these look-ahead matchups rank on the "Trap Scale"? Lastly, Jessica faces a round of Notre Dame trivia unlike any other. Check out Jessica on The Dan Le Betard Show: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-dan-le-batard-show-with-stugotz/id934820588 Read more on the Big 12 exploring private equity, sale of naming rights: https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5562395/2024/06/13/big-12-private-equity-naming-rights/ Rundown: - Big 12 (and others) exploring private equity investment & sale of naming rights (:30) - Notre Dame vibe check with Jessica Smetana (11:30) - Trap Games & Trap Scale! -- Colorado vs NDSU (32:30) - Notre Dame-Louisville (38:30) - Florida-UCF (43:30) - Clemson-App St. (47:00) - USF-Miami (52:00) - Notre Dame trivia! (58:00) Call/text the Until Saturday phone and leave us a question for a future mailbag and/or Sunday Sound-Off podcast: (316) 462-9852 Subscribe to the Until Saturday newletter & join in answering the Question of the Day!: https://theathletic.com/newsletters/until-saturday Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
We are less than 100 days from the start of the college football season! Ari Wasserman and Chris Vannini pinpoint the year's biggest 'pressure cooker games', or the matchups that will draw the strongest overreactions from either fanbase and send supporters into a tizzy. Would the losing party in LSU-USC lose faith in their head coach after a season of heavy investment in the defensive staff? Which programs are the guys dying to play as in Dynasty Mode in the upcoming EA Sports College Football 25 video game? Plus, Nebraska AD Troy Dannen spoke candidly about his perception of the direciton of the sport, and Huskers' NIL coffers. Can a team like Nebraska compete in the new world of CFB? Troy Dannen video: https://www.tiktok.com/@247.huskers/video/7377540168561069355?is_from_webapp=1 Listen to our 'Secrets of NIL and the transfer portal' episode: https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/podcast/83-the-andy-staples-show/episode-1117/ Rundown: - Troy Dannen on Nebraska's NIL war chest + future of the sport (3:00) - 2024's Pressure Cooker Games: Miami vs Florida (14:00) - USC vs LSU (23:30) - Nebraska vs Colorado (28:15) - Tennessee vs Oklahoma (38:30) - Texas vs Texas A&M + The Game (43:00) - Top 5 Dynasty Mode teams (54:00) Call/text the Until Saturday phone and leave us a question for a future mailbag and/or Sunday Sound-Off podcast: (316) 462-9852 Subscribe to the Until Saturday newletter & join in answering the Question of the Day!: https://theathletic.com/newsletters/until-saturday Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Which national championship model is harder to emulate: Georgia's or Michigan's? Ari Wasserman and Max Olson thoroughly mull over Rodrigo A's fan-submitted question. Which programs could model themselves after either champions? Max went through the arduous task of re-ranking the 2020 recruiting class in an effort to see who REALLY won it. What did he learn from Ohio State, Michigan, Tulane, Georgia, and more? Read Max's 2020 re-ranking: https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5510780/2024/05/28/college-football-recruiting-2020-class-rankings-revisited/ Rundown: - Re-ranking the 2020 recruiting class (2:30) - Michigan and Missour's talent development (10:00) - Ohio State's misses on defense (17:30) - Rounding out the top-10 (22:30) - Texas eeks out a top-10 finish (29:00) - Is Georgia or Michigan's championship blueprint harder to replicate? (35:00) - Playoff schedule dropped (52:30) Sign up for our FREE newsletter to answer future Questions of the Day: https://theathletic.com/newsletters/until-saturday Call/text the Until Saturday phone and leave us a question for a future mailbag and/or Sunday Sound-Off podcast: (316) 462-9852 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Chris Del Conte, athletic director at the University of Texas, gave the college football world a gem last week while on the Paul Finebaum Show. There he exclaimed just how great the Red River Shootout is compared to its new conference mates' rivalry games. So, is Texas-Oklahoma the BEST SEC rivalry game? Ari Wasserman, Max Olson, and Scott Dochterman share their thoughts on the matter as well as their favorite rivalry game experiences. We now have kick-off times for games in weeks 1-3. (We can finally start to smell the new season!) The guys place the top matchups from the first few weeks in a tier list of "A" through "F", though, there are no F-tier games - we love all of CFB! Where will games like Georgia-Clemson, Florida-Miami, Arizona-Kansas State and more rank? Plus, cliff notes from last week's SEC Spring Meetings. Read more about a 9-game SEC conf schedule: https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5529284/2024/05/30/sec-football-schedule-nine-games/ Read more about scholarship limits and the death of walk-ons: https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5525379/2024/05/28/sec-football-coaches-roster-limits/ Private equity, injury reports, and more: https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5530740/2024/05/30/sec-meetings-greg-sankey/ Big Ten schedule analysis: https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5530629/2024/05/30/big-ten-football-tv-schedule-analysis/ Rundown: A 9-game SEC conference schedule? (1:45) Roster limits + the end of walk-ons? (8:30) Is Red River the BEST SEC rivalry? (16:15) Our most memorable rivalry game experiences (31:30) Tier list of weeks 1-3 games (39:30) Call/text the Until Saturday phone and leave us a question for a future mailbag and/or Sunday Sound-Off podcast: (316) 462-9852 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Former stud Alabama running back and NFL vet Damien Harris joins Chris Vannini on today's show! Damien opens up about how his family and newborn son have helped him weather his difficult transition out of the NFL following a scary injury last season with the Buffalo Bills. He also weaves some hilarious and insightful stories about Nick Saban, his former coach. Damien opines on NIL, the transfer portal, EA Sports College Football 25, the NFL and Bill Belichick and more. Lastly, Chris tests Damien's knowledge of his career in a game of trivia. Who's the Big Ten dark horse? Sign up for our FREE newsletter to answer future Questions of the Day: https://theathletic.com/newsletters/until-saturday Rundown: - Damien Harris on the end of his NFL career and family (1:00) - What was Damien's reaction to Saban's retirement? (4:00) - Crimson Tide's epic RB room with Derrick Henry, Josh Jacobs, et. al (12:00) - Why didn't you transfer? (14:00) - Kalen DeBoer & expectations in Tuscaloosa (17:00) - Clemson battles & hate (23:00) - Favorite memory from college (26:30) - Death of amateurism & how would Damien have navigated NIL, player compensation (29:00) - EA Sports College Football 25 (38:30) - Transfer portal's impact (45:30) - Texas, Oklahoma transition to the SEC (47:00) - Bill Belichick impressions + NFL experience (53:00) - Damien Harris trivia (58:30) Call/text the Until Saturday phone and leave us a question for a future mailbag and/or Sunday Sound-Off podcast: (316) 462-9852 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
The rumors are true, we PLAYED EA Sports College Football 25...well, Chris Vannini did (Ari Wasserman definitely isn't jealous). While at a function hosted by EA Sports in Orlando, Chris had a first-account of what the gameplay is like; from the revamped running and passing mechanics to the pagentry and electric in-game atmostphere. Chris walks us through all the details he gathered about Dynasty Mode, NIL, the transfer portal, Road to Glory, and Road to the CFP. Later in the show, hear from EA Sports' very own Ben Haumiller and Christian McLeod about the game's development and features. Out the door, a farewell to the Pac-12 and one of its most prominent ambassadors, Bill Walton. Read Chris' NCAA 25 story on gameplay: https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5523815/2024/05/29/ea-sports-college-football-25-video-game-features/ NIL: https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5525588/2024/05/29/ea-sports-college-football-25-video-games-nil/ Dynasty Mode: https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5525517/2024/05/29/college-football-25-video-game-dynasty-mode/ Rundown: - We played NCAA 25! What's one thing Chris was surprised by? (2:30) - What was the gameplay like? Running game features (11:00) - Passing game features (16:00) - What ISN'T in the game? (21:45) - Pagentry + fan reactions (22:45) - Dynasty mode info dump (25:30) - How does recruiting work? (33:30) - How does NIL & the portal work? (43:00) - Road to Glory details (48:00) - Ben Haumiller & Christian McLeod join the show! (54:00) - Friend to Friend...was it badass? (1:09:30) - Pac-12 + Bill Walton memories (1:07:30) Call/text the Until Saturday phone and leave us a question for a future mailbag and/or Sunday Sound-Off podcast: (316) 462-9852 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
In the NEW Big 12, the one with 16 teams, separation between teams is infinitesimal. There are seven teams (nearly half the league) that are within one O/U win total of each other (per BetMGM). Sam Khan Jr. and Justin Williams use one word to describe each of the 16 conference teams to deliniate where each team is at this season. But before then, Justin takes us through House vs NCAA and where it stands. Plus, rapid fire O/U win totals for every program. Learn more about House vs NCAA: https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5506457/2024/05/20/ncaa-settlement-house-lawsuit-college-sports/?partner=slack&smid=sl-share Post-spring Big 12 preview: https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5495963/2024/05/16/big-12-football-preview-power-rankings-transfers/?utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=cfbtw&source=cfbtw Read Sam's Willie Fritz, Houston story: https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5495799/2024/05/21/willie-fritz-houston-football/ Big 12 QB carousel: https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5484819/2024/05/14/big-12-quarterbacks-starters-returners-transfers/ Who's the SEC dark horse? Sign up for our FREE newsletter and answer future QOTDs: https://theathletic.com/newsletters/until-saturday Rundown: - House vs NCAA latest + what the heck does it mean? (2:00) - ONE WORD WONDERS: Big 12 edition; Arizona, Arizona St., Baylor (12:30) - BYU, Houston, Cincinnati, Kansas (19:30) - Colorado, K-State, Iowa St., Oklahoma St. (27:30) - UCF, TCU, Utah, Texas Tech & West Virginia (37:00) -Win totals (51:00) Call/text the Until Saturday phone and leave us a question for a future mailbag and/or Sunday Sound-Off podcast: (316) 462-9852 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Florida State head football coach Mike Norvell joins Ari Wasserman to discuss the Seminoles' approach to team building. Does Norvell believe his team's portal to high school recruiting ratio is a recipe for success? Is it sustainable? Manny Navarro, The Athletic's AuFlority, then hops on the mic to breakdown Norvell's roster construction from a analytical angle. Were FSU's portal hits more luck based, or are they the new standard for how to build a team? Later, the guys answer a voicemail from the Until Saturday phone line (316-462-9852) about who belongs in the NCAA 25 game's All-99 club. Plus, what is the lowest ranking a team can recruit at each position to win a national title? Read Pt. 1 of our NIL confidential: https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5484900/2024/05/13/college-football-transfer-portal-nil-deals/ Read Pt. 2 of our NIL confidential: https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5499474/2024/05/20/college-football-transfer-portal-nil-collectives-movement/ Listen to last week's show: https://pod.fo/e/23ce9b Who's the SEC dark horse? Sign up for our FREE newsletter and vote: https://theathletic.com/newsletters/until-saturday Rundown: - Portal reliance; "transactional program" a functional model? (:30) - Mike Norvell joins the show (5:00) - Opinions on FSU's approach + advanced recruiting (20:00) - Is FSU's portal success sustainable? (26:15) - Other "transactional programs" & how certains teams use the portal (34:00) - NCAA 25 All-99 club (45:45) - Lowest rated position but still win a title? (49:30) Call/text the Until Saturday phone and leave us a question for a future mailbag and/or Sunday Sound-Off podcast: (316) 462-9852 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Ari, Chris and Max share their instant reactions to the first EA Sports NCAA 25 trailer! Chris also shares what features fans can expect in the game. You may think you know how the transfer portal and NIL works, but Manny Navarro, Chris Vannini, and Ari Wasserman tells you how it REALLY works. Manny, Chris, and several other The Athletic reporters interviewed players, coaches, and agents about how two of the most prevelant yet perplexing topics in college sports. How do programs recruit players? Where do agents fit into all of this,are players only after a bag, and which programs spend the most? WE HAVE A RELEASE DATE FOR NCAA 25. An array of news came out of Florida at the ACC Spring Meetings. Dabo dropped another transfer portal comment, Florida St. vs ACC still rages on, even with both parties at the same hotel, and does the conference have a perception problem? Read about how the transfer portal works: https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5484900/2024/05/13/college-football-transfer-portal-nil-deals/ Read about how NIL agents fit into the picture: https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5490748/2024/05/15/college-football-nil-agents-transfer-portal/ Read Nicole Auerbach's stories from ACC Spring Meetings: https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5494186/2024/05/14/acc-college-football-playoff-perception/ Who's the Big 12 dark horse? Sign up and answer future Until Saturday newsletter's Question of the Day here: https://theathletic.com/newsletters/until-saturday Rundown: - EA Sports NCAA 25 trailer + features (:30) - How does NIL/portal work? What we learned (15:00) - So...tampering (24:00) - Are players only after a paycheck? (28:30) - Transactional programs (29:45) - How do deals get done? (41:00) - Biggest spenders (48:30) - NCAA 25 release date (1:00:30) - ACC Spring Meetings: Dabo, league perception, FSU + House vs NCAA deadline (1:08:00) Call/text the Until Saturday phone and leave us a question for a future mailbag and/or Sunday Sound-Off podcast: (316) 462-9852 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
One of Until Saturday's most dedicated listeners, Sad Husker Nate, did it again. He left another gem of a question for Ari Wasserman, Sam Khan Jr., and Mitch Light on the Until Saturday Phone Line (316-462-9852): Who's on our Mount Rushmore of CFB Villains? The trio go meta with some of their choices (like the Pac-12's cognoscenti that destroyed the conference), but weren't bashful about naming some names (like Michigan's Jim Harbaugh). Baylor is gambling on Dave Aranda after consecutive losing seasons. Why did AD Mack Rhodes decide to retain Aranda? Sam takes us inside his excellent story before the group delves into a bigger picture conversation: What's a fair timeline for a coach? Lastly, EA Sports NCAA 25 dropped a bombshell on us last Friday. Read Sam's Dave Aranda story: https://theathletic.com/5467548/2024/05/06/dave-aranda-baylor-football/ Who's the Big 12 dark horse? Sign up and answer the Until Saturday newsletter's Question of the Day here: https://theathletic.com/newsletters/until-saturday Rundown: - Mount Rushmore of CFB Villains via Sad Husker Nate (4:00) - Honorable mention villains (38:00) - Baylor's big bet on Dave Aranda + fair timelines (44:45) - NCAA 25 cover athletes (1:00:00) Call/text the Until Saturday phone and leave us a question for a future mailbag and/or Sunday Sound-Off podcast: (316) 462-9852 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
We asked you, Until Saturday and college football fans alike, to weigh in on Ari Wasserman's Post-Spring Top-25 rankings. Ari takes fan feedback on his list as well as input from Chris Vannini, who joins him on today's show. Why was Utah ranked so low? Was a Group of 5 team considered, and a fan thinks Ari's story was DISGUSTINGLY...rational? Plus, Brian Kelly, Spencer Danielson, and more coaches spoke openly about certain aspects of their school's NIL approach. Some of what was said wasn't well received, but are outspoken parties simply overreacting? Unlimited coaches, Iowa's new QB, the ACC's dark horse and more! Subscribe to the Until Saturday newletter & join in answering the Question of the Day!: https://theathletic.com/newsletters/until-saturday Rundown: - NIL consternation + Boise St. HC Spencer Danielson on Freshman/NIL comments (2:00) - Post-Spring Top-25 postmortem + Chris weighs in (13:30) - Changes + G5 regrets and contenders (21:15) - Until Saturday phone line opens: Ari, why do you hate Carson Beck? (26:45) - How are early-season marquee matchups contextualized? (31:30) - Someone liked Ari's rankings? (38:00) - Text via Jason from Austin: Why is Utah ranked so low? (41:00) - Text via David G San Antonio.: Post-spring hypothetical 12-team playoff (44:00) - Text via Ben from Louisville: Kudos for ranking the Cardinals (51:00) - Until Saturday newsletter QOTD: Which team is the ACC dark horse? (53:00) - Iowa's new QB + unlimited coaches (56:00) Call/text the Until Saturday phone and leave us a question for a future mailbag and/or Sunday Sound-Off podcast: (316) 462-9852 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Carson Curry

Any chance either of you are attending the East-West Shrine Bowl practices or Reese's Senior Bowl practices? Big fan on yours and would enjoy meeting you in-person. I got media credentials for the first time, so I've decided what any other rational person would do. I am going to try and set a world record for driving 1,787 miles in under 120-hours to visit 5 SEC West stadiums while also covering 4 bowl practices. Fayetteville-Frisco-Baton Rouge-Mobile-Tuscaloosa-Starkville-Oxford-Fayetteville.

Jan 24th
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Carson Curry

thanks boys.week 3 wit or luck out now: https://www.fatcurrybets.com/post/week-3-wit-or-luck-you-re-bigger-than-that-piece-of-cake

Sep 16th
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Carson Curry

WIT OR LUCK - WEEK 1 PREDICTIONS. NOW LIVE Fatcurrybets.com

Sep 2nd
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Carson Curry

Ari and team are a bunch of frauds. literally taking the solid verbals voicemail idea and acting like it's your own. you all suck

Sep 1st
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Carson Curry

save yourself an hour. I've posted the picks here: https://www.fatcurrybets.com/post/wit-or-luck-year-2-testing-my-weekly-cfb-predictions-against-the-public

Aug 26th
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Carson Curry

THE BEAST HAS BEEN RELEASED. ALL 133 FBS FOOTBALL TEAMS HAVE BEEN REVIEWED AND RANKED https://www.fatcurrybets.com/post/2023-official-cfb-outlook-predictions

Aug 24th
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Carson Curry

If Bill Clinton was an SEC Quarterback: https://www.fatcurrybets.com/post/if-bill-clinton-was-an-sec-quarterback-sec-east-predictions

Jul 30th
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Carson Curry

the reason people picked TCU is because of "Dugganism": https://www.fatcurrybets.com/post/dugganism-the-square-phenomenon-cfb-championship-prediction-player-props

Jan 11th
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Brian Crawford

did you guys mention the early Sunbelt conference upsets?

Jan 10th
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Brian Crawford

Just a reminder to Michelle, the Heisman trophy is not a video game... it doesn't go to whoever has the best stats. The award is supposed to go to players who exhibit great ability combined with diligence, hard work, and perseverance. No one epitomizes this standard more than Stetson Bennett despite her hot take. But thanks, I've been meaning to cancel my Athletic subscription anyway.

Dec 9th
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Carson Curry

#Week13 "Bell of The Ball" Locks Out. Follow a Big J Journalist who actually stands by his #cfbpicks and will die for his picks. https://www.fatcurrybets.com/post/you-da-bell-of-the-ball-week-13-locks

Nov 26th
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VR RR

Nicole is the fun police. She always makes the show boring and she doesn't have any chemistry with Andy and Ari. She needs to leave the show.

Oct 21st
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Carson Curry

See here for actual locks: https://www.fatcurrybets.com/post/hoosier-daddy-week-6-picks

Oct 8th
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Carson Curry

"What The 12 Apostles Can Teach Us About The First Two Weeks of CFB" https://www.fatcurrybets.com/post/what-the-12-apostles-can-teach-us-about-the-first-two-weeks-of-cfb

Sep 15th
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Carson Curry

Fat Curry's Week 2 Picks Against The Butter Spread: Week 1 calculations have been updated by my quant and Week 2 picks are officially in the blog. #ESKETIT https://www.fatcurrybets.com/post/wit-or-luck-testing-my-weekly-cfb-predictions-against-the-public

Sep 9th
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Carson Curry

We all have gone to fridge and opened it when we aren't hungry. But have you ever asked yourself why? Maybe it's because you know nothing's changed, yet you're hoping that it miraculously has. Welcome to the 2022-2023 CFB Season folks: "A Midnight Gaze into the 2022-2023 CFB Fridge" https://www.fatcurrybets.com/post/a-midnight-gaze-into-the-2022-2023-cfb-fridge

Sep 1st
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Carson Curry

We all have gone to fridge and opened it when we aren't hungry. But have you ever asked yourself why? Maybe it's because you know nothing's changed, yet you're hoping that it miraculously has. Welcome to the 2022-2023 CFB Season folks: "A Midnight Gaze into the 2022-2023 CFB Fridge" https://www.fatcurrybets.com/post/a-midnight-gaze-into-the-2022-2023-cfb-fridge

Sep 1st
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Carson Curry

The SEC breakdown is here: "A Midnight Gaze into the 2022-2023 CFB Fridge" https://www.fatcurrybets.com/post/a-midnight-gaze-into-the-2022-2023-cfb-fridge

Aug 30th
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