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Author: Dan Heath

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Curious what it would be like to walk in someone else’s (work) shoes? Join New York Times bestselling author Dan Heath as he explores the world of work, one profession at a time, and interviews people who love what they do. What does a couples therapist think when a friend asks for relationship advice? What happens if a welder fails to wear safety glasses? What can get a stadium beer vendor fired? If you’ve ever met someone whose work you were curious about, and you had 100 nosy questions but were too polite to ask … well, this is the show for you. 
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An Archaeologist

An Archaeologist

2024-04-2330:53

Unearthing ancient wine cellars, finding the right places to dig, and tracing the arc of lost civilizations with Eric Cline, an archaeologist. What's the difference between a shard and a sherd? And what will archaeologists of the future make of us?Follow us on Instagram!Got a comment or suggestion for us? You can reach us via email at jobs@whatitslike.comWant to be on the show? Leave a message on our voice mailbox at (919) 213-0456. We’ll ask you to answer two questions: What do people think your job is like and what is it actually like? What’s a word or phrase that only someone from your profession would be likely to know and what does it mean?
An FBI Special Agent

An FBI Special Agent

2024-04-0929:00

Building cases against MS-13 gang members, flipping a suspect in an interrogation, and writing countless subpoenas for phone records with Dan Brunner, a retired FBI Special Agent. What's the significance of the "1,000-piece jigsaw puzzle"? And what does it take to get a fugitive on the FBI's Ten Most Wanted list?Follow us on Instagram!Got a comment or suggestion for us? You can reach us via email at jobs@whatitslike.comWant to be on the show? Leave a message on our voice mailbox at (919) 213-0456. We’ll ask you to answer two questions: What do people think your job is like and what is it actually like? What’s a word or phrase that only someone from your profession would be likely to know and what does it mean?
A Cattle Rancher

A Cattle Rancher

2024-03-2629:33

Raising cattle in the high desert, hauling calves to auction, and protecting the herd from mountain lions with Chachi Hawkins, a cattle rancher in southwest Texas. How did she go from selling clothes to selling cattle? And does she ever get attached to particular calves?Follow us on Instagram!Got a comment or suggestion for us? You can reach us via email at jobs@whatitslike.comWant to be on the show? Leave a message on our voice mailbox at (919) 213-0456. We’ll ask you to answer two questions: What do people think your job is like and what is it actually like? What’s a word or phrase that only someone from your profession would be likely to know and what does it mean?
We've got a special bonus episode for you this week! Our friends over at Choiceology, the podcast hosted by Katy Milkman, explores the lessons that can be gleaned from behavioral economics. They tell true stories with high-stakes, sharing what the latest research tells us about making better decisions. In this episode, called “The Superforecasters”, they examine President Barack Obama’s decision to move forward with the raid on what was thought to be Osama bin Laden’s compound in Pakistan back in 2011. But, as you’ll hear, there were doubts, and the costs of getting the mission wrong would have been massive. How was that decision made? And what can it tell us about how to make better predictions?Katy Milkman is a professor at the Wharton School at the University of Pennsylvania and the author of the national bestseller How to Change. You can learn more about Choiceology at the show’s website.Follow us on Instagram!Got a comment or suggestion for us? You can reach us via email at jobs@whatitslike.comWant to be on the show? Leave a message on our voice mailbox at (919) 213-0456. We’ll ask you to answer two questions: What do people think your job is like and what is it actually like? What’s a word or phrase that only someone from your profession would be likely to know and what does it mean?
Diagnosing what ails struggling companies, choosing the "least crappy option", and managing constant stress with Jeff Vogelsang, a turnaround consultant. What kind of personality do you need to lead turnarounds? And what does it mean to make someone "available to industry”?Follow us on Instagram!Got a comment or suggestion for us? You can reach us via email at jobs@whatitslike.comWant to be on the show? Leave a message on our voice mailbox at (919) 213-0456. We’ll ask you to answer two questions: What do people think your job is like and what is it actually like? What’s a word or phrase that only someone from your profession would be likely to know and what does it mean?
A Nurse

A Nurse

2024-02-2729:472

Caring for patients with serious burns, making sure the correct leg gets operated on, and working 24 hours straight with Teresa Shuster, a nurse in Florida. How did a patient change the trajectory of her career? And what's a "Code Brown"?Follow us on Instagram!Got a comment or suggestion for us? You can reach us via email at jobs@whatitslike.comWant to be on the show? Leave a message on our voice mailbox at (919) 213-0456. We’ll ask you to answer two questions: What do people think your job is like and what is it actually like? What’s a word or phrase that only someone from your profession would be likely to know and what does it mean?
A Stand-Up Comedian

A Stand-Up Comedian

2024-02-1330:07

Crafting jokes that kill, hustling to find gigs, and improvising based on the audience's reaction with Chris Grace, a stand-up comedian. What's the worst he's ever bombed? And what is a "bringer" show?Follow us on Instagram!Got a comment or suggestion for us? You can reach us via email at jobs@whatitslike.comWant to be on the show? Leave a message on our voice mailbox at (919) 213-0456. We’ll ask you to answer two questions: What do people think your job is like and what is it actually like? What’s a word or phrase that only someone from your profession would be likely to know and what does it mean?
A Hair Stylist

A Hair Stylist

2024-01-3028:54

Cutting to accentuate the client's eyes and ears, plotting to tame Einstein's hair, and riding the ups and downs of entrepreneurship with Ona Diaz-Santin, a hair stylist and owner of 5 Salon & Spa in New Jersey. What's the most irritating way a client can respond to a haircut? And why was she christened "The Hair Saint"?Our show takes a lot of inspiration from Studs Terkel's classic book Working. It features interviews Terkel did with more than 100 different people from different jobs: police officers, waitresses, gravediggers, private investigators. His guiding question? "What do they do all day?" Radio Diaries actually got their hands on the audio that Terkel recorded of his interviews and collected them into an episode that you can listen to here.Follow us on Instagram!Got a comment or suggestion for us? You can reach us via email at jobs@whatitslike.comWant to be on the show? Leave a message on our voice mailbox at (919) 213-0456. We’ll ask you to answer two questions: What do people think your job is like and what is it actually like? What’s a word or phrase that only someone from your profession would be likely to know and what does it mean?
A Welder

A Welder

2024-01-1630:15

Pushing perfectionism to its limits, suffering third degree burns from slag, and having your welds “shot” by X-rays with Matt "Lucky" Reed, a welder in Florida. What happens to welders' eyes if they don't wear protective hoods? And what's a time-tested way of trolling a fellow welder?Follow us on Instagram!Got a comment or suggestion for us? You can reach us via email at jobs@whatitslike.comWant to be on the show? Leave a message on our voice mailbox at (919) 213-0456. We’ll ask you to answer two questions: What do people think your job is like and what is it actually like? What’s a word or phrase that only someone from your profession would be likely to know and what does it mean?
A Piano Teacher

A Piano Teacher

2024-01-0227:031

Delivering the perfect first lesson, working with 89-year-old students, and learning how to charge for your work with Christina Whitlock, a piano teacher in Indiana.  How does she help students hear the "heartbeat of music"? And what is it like to teach a student from first grade through college?Follow us on Instagram!Got a comment or suggestion for us? You can reach us via email at jobs@whatitslike.comWant to be on the show? Leave a message on our voice mailbox at (919) 213-0456. We’ll ask you to answer two questions: What do people think your job is like and what is it actually like? What’s a word or phrase that only someone from your profession would be likely to know and what does it mean?
Refurbishing old sleighs, reviewing advance dossiers on kids, and going to “Santa School" with Larry Jefferson, a professional Santa Claus based in Dallas. How does he handle situations when kids ask for something Santa could never grant? And what would a kid have to do to get coal?Music credit:"Dance of the Sugar Plum Fairies" Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 LicenseFollow us on Instagram!Got a comment or suggestion for us? You can reach us via email at jobs@whatitslike.comWant to be on the show? Leave a message on our voice mailbox at (919) 213-0456. We’ll ask you to answer two questions: What do people think your job is like and what is it actually like? What’s a word or phrase that only someone from your profession would be likely to know and what does it mean?
Managing complaints from parents, handling the horrors of teenage social media, and serving as an emergency substitute teacher with Marcus Belin, a high school principal in Illinois. How does it feel for everyone in town to know him as The Principal? And what exactly is a “sandwich email”?Follow us on Instagram!Got a comment or suggestion for us? You can reach us via email at jobs@whatitslike.comWant to be on the show? Leave a message on our voice mailbox at (919) 213-0456. We’ll ask you to answer two questions: What do people think your job is like and what is it actually like? What’s a word or phrase that only someone from your profession would be likely to know and what does it mean?
A Mystery Novelist

A Mystery Novelist

2023-11-2830:052

Scouting body disposal sites, investigating obscure poisons, and computing royalty payments with Donna Andrews, the mystery novelist behind the Meg Langslow series. How do you make a living as a mystery novelist? And could Tylenol be a murder weapon?Know someone who is a great storyteller that we should talk to about their job? Email us at jobs@whatitslike.comFollow us on Instagram!Got a comment or suggestion for us? You can reach us via email at jobs@whatitslike.comWant to be on the show? Leave a message on our voice mailbox at (919) 213-0456. We’ll ask you to answer two questions: What do people think your job is like and what is it actually like? What’s a word or phrase that only someone from your profession would be likely to know and what does it mean?
A Forensic Accountant

A Forensic Accountant

2023-11-1429:223

Catching embezzling CFOs, sniffing out a corrupt private school headmaster, and sifting through fake invoices with Chris Ekimoff, a forensic accountant. What are his go-to moves to detect fraud? And who is the most famous forensic accountant (besides Ben Affleck)?Follow us on Instagram!Got a comment or suggestion for us? You can reach us via email at jobs@whatitslike.comWant to be on the show? Leave a message on our voice mailbox at (919) 213-0456. We’ll ask you to answer two questions: What do people think your job is like and what is it actually like? What’s a word or phrase that only someone from your profession would be likely to know and what does it mean?
A TV Meteorologist

A TV Meteorologist

2023-10-3130:193

Tracking a 2.5-mile-wide tornado, fretting over forecasts, and waking up at 2:30am with Lacey Swope, a TV meteorologist for News 9 in Oklahoma City. How does she deal with fans and stalkers? And what is the “deformation zone”?You can see Lacey's daily forecasts on the News 9 website. She's also on Instagram.Got thoughts on the show? Reach out to dan@whatitslike.comFollow us on Instagram!Got a comment or suggestion for us? You can reach us via email at jobs@whatitslike.comWant to be on the show? Leave a message on our voice mailbox at (919) 213-0456. We’ll ask you to answer two questions: What do people think your job is like and what is it actually like? What’s a word or phrase that only someone from your profession would be likely to know and what does it mean?
Defending a man prosecuted for breaking into his own house, carrying clients’ burdens, and dispelling a myth about Miranda rights with Mike Panella, a criminal defense attorney from Orlando.Got thoughts on the show? You can reach us at dan@whatitslike.comFollow us on Instagram!Got a comment or suggestion for us? You can reach us via email at jobs@whatitslike.comWant to be on the show? Leave a message on our voice mailbox at (919) 213-0456. We’ll ask you to answer two questions: What do people think your job is like and what is it actually like? What’s a word or phrase that only someone from your profession would be likely to know and what does it mean?
A Couples Therapist

A Couples Therapist

2023-10-1528:145

Mystery dates, adult playrooms, habit stacking, and the misuse of “narcissism” with Laura Heck, a virtual couples therapist. Laura is also a co-host of the podcast Marriage Therapy Radio.Want to share your thoughts on the show? Email dan@whatitslike.comFollow us on Instagram!Got a comment or suggestion for us? You can reach us via email at jobs@whatitslike.comWant to be on the show? Leave a message on our voice mailbox at (919) 213-0456. We’ll ask you to answer two questions: What do people think your job is like and what is it actually like? What’s a word or phrase that only someone from your profession would be likely to know and what does it mean?
A Stadium Beer Vendor

A Stadium Beer Vendor

2023-10-1527:491

Meeting Muhammad Ali, handling fans who are alcoholics, pouring with no foam, and dreaming about one last game with Howard Hart, who spent three decades as a stadium beer vendor. If you want to see Howard in action, The Washington Post put together a great video feature on him in 2014.Follow us on Instagram!Got a comment or suggestion for us? You can reach us via email at jobs@whatitslike.comWant to be on the show? Leave a message on our voice mailbox at (919) 213-0456. We’ll ask you to answer two questions: What do people think your job is like and what is it actually like? What’s a word or phrase that only someone from your profession would be likely to know and what does it mean?
Curious what it would be like to walk in someone else’s (work) shoes? Join New York Times bestselling author Dan Heath as he explores the world of work, one profession at a time, and interviews people who love what they do. What does a couples therapist think when a friend asks for relationship advice? What happens if a welder fails to wear safety glasses? What can get a stadium beer vendor fired? If you’ve ever met someone whose work you were curious about, and you had 100 nosy questions but were too polite to ask … well, this is the show for you. Follow us on Instagram!Got a comment or suggestion for us? You can reach us via email at jobs@whatitslike.comWant to be on the show? Leave a message on our voice mailbox at (919) 213-0456. We’ll ask you to answer two questions: What do people think your job is like and what is it actually like? What’s a word or phrase that only someone from your profession would be likely to know and what does it mean?
Comments (8)

Don Crow

What a great concept! I'm looking forward to listening to them all.

Apr 19th
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yaara gerchman

Awesome Podcast! 🌹

Feb 28th
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Leslie bailiff

I love your show! could you interview a sign language interpreter and or a Braillist ( a person who translate English math, music into Braille for blind people/children?

Jan 3rd
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Fariba Rafie

best wishes for you

Dec 30th
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Eltaf Hassani

what's it like to be a professor at university?

Dec 25th
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Kate Benson

Great podcast. Very interesting to peek behind the curtain of a wide range of careers.

Dec 2nd
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Tina Nina

I just found this podcast and it’s very interesting and entertaining at same time. I guestt it helps to know what a person in any given profession feels and thinks about you , his/her job and the perks and problems that comes with it. Keep up the good job!

Nov 10th
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