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A podcast about developer tools and the people who make them. Join us as we embark on a journey to explore modern developer tooling and interview the people who make it possible.
We love talking to the creators front-end frameworks (React, Solid, Svelte, Vue, Angular, etc), JavaScript and TypeScript runtimes (Node, Deno, Bun), Languages (Unison, Elixor, Rust, Zig), web tech (WASM, Web Containers, WebGPU, WebGL), database providers (Turso, Planetscale, Supabase, EdgeDB), and platforms (SST, AWS, Vercel, Netlify, Fly.io).
We love talking to the creators front-end frameworks (React, Solid, Svelte, Vue, Angular, etc), JavaScript and TypeScript runtimes (Node, Deno, Bun), Languages (Unison, Elixor, Rust, Zig), web tech (WASM, Web Containers, WebGPU, WebGL), database providers (Turso, Planetscale, Supabase, EdgeDB), and platforms (SST, AWS, Vercel, Netlify, Fly.io).
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This week we have Johannes Schickling, the founder and former CEO of Prisma. We talk about what he's been up to in the last few years and what he envisions for the future of software development. He is a contributor to the Effect library which is a new way to write asynchronous code in TypeScript. We also talk about the rise of local first development, how it's changing the way we build software, and how he's using it to build his new app Overtone.
https://twitter.com/schickling?lang=en
http://effect.website
https://overtone.pro/
https://www.localfirst.fm/
https://www.prisma.io/
https://riffle.systems/
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Tooltips
Andrew
https://github.com/rossjrw/pr-preview-action
https://typedoc.org/
https://github.com/PetoiCamp/OpenCat
Justin
https://unstorage.unjs.io/
https://github.com/OnedocLabs/react-print-pdf
Johannes
Nix - https://nixos.org
Attest - https://github.com/arktypeio/arktype/tree/2.0/ark/attest#cli + https://ui.perfetto.dev/
This week we have Mitchell Hashimoto, the founder of HashiCorp. We talk about where it all started and how the company and it's tools have impacted the industry. We also talk about the challenges of being a founder and the importance of thinking about open source monetization early on. We also talk about his experience as a pilot and his technical philanthropy in the terminal emulator space.
https://twitter.com/mitchellh
https://mitchellh.com/
https://github.com/mitchellh
Origin story of HashiCorp (https://youtu.be/Y7c_twmDxQ4)
Selected writing
My Approach to Building Large Technical Projects (https://mitchellh.com/writing/building-large-technical-projects)
Contributing to Complex Projects (https://mitchellh.com/writing/contributing-to-complex-projects)
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This week we talk to Adam Wathan, the creator of Tailwind CSS. We go into all the changes for Tailwind CSS v4, discussing how they use Rust and Lightning CSS. Adam also shares about how they've been monetizing the tool and building out Tailwind Labs. We also address some of the heated feedback from the Twitter.
https://adamwathan.me/
https://github.com/adamwathan
https://twitter.com/adamwathan
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This week we have Dan Abramov, a core team member of React. We talk about his latest work on Bluesky, a decentralized social network. We also go into many react topics, including the history of server components, the new React compiler, and the future of React.
https://twitter.com/dan_abramov2
https://danabra.mov/
https://overreacted.io/
https://bsky.app/
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This week we have Guillermo Rauch, the founder and CEO of Vercel, and the creator of Next.js. We talk about the road to Vercel, how web development is changing, and how Vercel is helping developers build better products. We also talk about AI and generative UI, and how it might change the future of software development.
https://github.com/rauchg
https://rauchg.com/
https://github.com/rauchg/Socket.IO
https://vercel.com/
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This week we're joined by DHH, the co founder of 37signals, and the creator of Ruby on Rails. We talk about the future of web development, the history of Rails, and the evolution of the web. David also talks about his views on the longevity of software and ecosystems.
https://twitter.com/dhh
https://37signals.com
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This week we're joined by Dani Grant, founder of Jam.dev, a tool to report bugs in a ways that developers can immediately act on them. We talk about Dani's journey to building Jam.dev and the challenges that they faced along the way trying to find product market fit. Dani also talks her experience fund raising for Jam.dev.
https://twitter.com/thedanigrant
https://jam.dev/
https://jam.dev/blog/jam-raises-8-9m-series-a-led-by-ggv-capital/
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Tooltips
Andrew
https://github.com/DaniGuardiola/classy-ink
Justin
https://github.com/lsd-rs/lsd
https://github.com/sindresorhus/ky
Dani
https://slack.com/help/articles/206329808-Google-Calendar-for-Slack
https://typefully.com/
https://www.youtube.com/@mreflow
This week we're joined by Herrington Darkholme, the creator of AST Grep. AST Grep is a code search tool that uses the abstract syntax tree (AST) of your code to find patterns. We talk about the genesis of AST Grep, the efficiency of AST Grep in code searching, the challenge of expressing complex patterns, the versatility of YAML for rule expression, testing and evolving rules with AST Grep, and expanding AST Grep with SDKs and VS Code integration. You should definitely check out AST Grep if you're looking for a powerful code search tool!
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This week, we have Robert Balicki on the show to talk about Isograph, a new data fetching framework for React. Robert has worked on the Relay team at Meta (formerly Facebook) and is currently at Pinterest helping them adopt Relay. We talk about the differences between Isograph and Relay, the future of data fetching and web development, and the journey to make Isograph production ready. Could Isograph be the future of data fetching in React? Listen to find out!
https://twitter.com/isographlabs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkxAOgkaiSw
https://isograph.dev/blog/2024/02/15/isograph-0.1.0/
https://twitter.com/StatisticsFTW
https://www.robertbalicki.com/
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Tooltips
Andrew
https://github.com/facebook/react-strict-dom
https://www.npmjs.com/package/safetest
Justin
https://josh-project.github.io/josh/intro.html
https://nodedojo.gumroad.com/l/dojobin
Robert
https://kinesis-ergo.com/shop/advantage2/
https://folivora.ai/
https://karabiner-elements.pqrs.org/
This week we have Glauber Costa, CEO and founder of Turso, a service for distributing and using multiple SQLite instances in different regions. Glauber has a long history in the software industry, including working on the Linux kernel for many years. He shares his experience working on the Linux kernel and how it led him to found Turso. e also discuss the limitations of SQLite and how Turso is solving those problems with their fork libSQL.
https://twitter.com/glcst
https://twitter.com/tursodatabase
https://turso.tech/libsql
https://turso.tech/
https://github.com/glommer
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Tooltips
Andrew
https://rsdoctor.dev
https://www.npmjs.com/package/playwright-test-coverage
Justin
https://github.com/ije/md4w
https://www.unison.cloud/
Glauber
http://val.town
https://github.com/axodotdev/cargo-dist
This week we have Zeno Rocha on the show. He is "developer famous" for creating the Dracula Theme, a popular theme for developers. He is also the co-founder of Resend, a modern email platform for developers. We talk about the journey they took to create Resend, starting with the creation of React Email, and the complexities of email delivery at scale.
https://twitter.com/zenorocha
https://react.email/
https://resend.com/home
https://draculatheme.com
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Tooltips
Andrew
https://www.npmjs.com/package/workerpool
https://github.com/sindresorhus/promise-fun
https://react-postgres-components.vercel.app/
Justin
https://github.com/esm-dev/esm.sh/releases/tag/v135
https://www.actionforge.dev/
https://sunilpai.dev/posts/the-future-of-serverless/
Zeno
http://raycast.com
https://www.npmjs.com/package/link-check
https://walden.us/products/lava-rock-diffuser
Today's episode features Evan Bacon, the head of devtools at Expo. Expo is a framework for building React Native apps it takes care of a lot of the details so all you have to worry about is writing code. Evan is also the author of Expo Router which makes seamlessly manage your app's navigation with file based routing and so much more. We also delve in to the topic of React Server Components on React Native and the exciting possibilities of developing for Vision OS.
https://evanbacon.dev
https://twitter.com/Baconbrix
https://docs.expo.dev
https://github.com/EvanBacon
https://docs.expo.dev/router/introduction/
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This week we talk to a legend in the dev tools space, Christopher Chedeau. Christopher is a software engineer at Meta (formerly Facebook) and has worked on some of the most popular open source projects in the world. He is the creator of Prettier, a code formatter that has saved millions of developer hours. He is also the co-creator of React Native, a framework for building native apps with React. Christopher has also worked on many other projects such as Excalidraw, Yoga, and and many others.
https://blog.vjeux.com
https://github.com/vjeux
https://twitter.com/Vjeux
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This week we're joined by Daniel Thompson-Yvetot and Lucas Nogueira to talk about Tauri, a framework for building smaller, faster, and more secure desktop applications. We talk about the advantages of Tauri over Electron, the importance of security in open source software, and the future of cross-platform apps with Tauri. After that we talk about the importance of governance in open source projects and how Tauri is approaching it with their new company Crab Nebula.
https://crabnebula.dev
https://tauri.app/
https://github.com/crabnebula-dev/devtools
https://github.com/lucasfernog
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This week we talk to the open source legend Feross Aboukhadijeh about his journey into open source, the challenges of open source funding, and his new company Socket.Socket is a tool that aims to make OSS security level up by providing a way to audit your dependencies for security vulnerabilities.They are able to detect much more complex vulnerabilities than the current tools on the market by using a combination of static analysis, dynamic analysis, and even some LLMs!Come get scared with us as we delve into the world of open source security.
- https://feross.org/
- https://github.com/feross
- https://twitter.com/feross
- https://twitter.com/SocketSecurity
- https://socket.dev/
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This week we're joined by Eric Simons, CEO of StackBlitz. StackBlitz is an online IDE for web applications, powered by a new web standard called WebContainers. Web container allow you to run code much closer to the OS, and StackBlitz uses this to run NodeJS and NPM in the browser. We also talk about Eric's time living in AOL's headquarters, and how that led eventually to the creation of StackBlitz.
https://twitter.com/ericsimons40
https://twitter.com/StackBlitz
https://stackblitz.com/@EricSimons
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Tooltips
Andrew
https://github.com/webdiscus/html-bundler-webpack-plugin
https://next-video.dev/
Justin
Blob APIs from netlify and val.town https://www.netlify.com/blog/introducing-netlify-blobs-beta/ https://twitter.com/stevekrouse/status/1724792828310741045
https://github.com/immich-app/immich
Eric
The new angular.dev site
viteconf.org
remix.run
This week we're joined by Brian Douglas, founder of Open Sauced and former Head of DevRel at GitHub. We talk about his time at GitHub, where he worked on GitHub Actions, GitHub Discussions, and GitHub Copilot. We also talk about his new company, Open Sauced, which is a tool for developers and businesses to get insights into their open source projects. Will Open Sauced save social coding? Find out on this week's episode of DevTools FM!
https://opensauced.pizza
https://twitter.com/bdougieYO
https://twitter.com/saucedopen
https://app.opensauced.pizza/user/bdougie
https://github.com/bdougie
https://www.linkedin.com/in/brianldouglas/
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Tooltips
Andrew
https://www.melt-ui.com/docs/introduction
https://fleet.so/context
Justin
https://www.automa.site/
https://svelteflow.dev/
Brian
https://posthog.com/
https://chat.openai.com/g/g-2LFEDLGgS-ferris-the-crab
This week we have Jess Martin, a developer at DXOS. We talk about his journey to DXOS and what realizations he had along the way. DXOS is a framework for building local first, multiplayer, interoperable apps where users own their own data. Apps are built on top of a shared data substrate, and users can bring their identity with them across apps. DXOS is a wild reimagining of what computers could be, and we're excited to see where it goes.
https://twitter.com/jessmartin
https://jessmart.in/
https://twitter.com/dxos_org
https://dxos.org/
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Tooltip
Andrew
https://github.com/microsoft/inshellisense
https://sshx.io/
Justin
https://platform.openai.com/docs/guides/text-to-speech
https://github.com/dflex-js/dflex
Jess
https://notes.jessmart.in
This week we talk to Yagiz Nizipli about his work on Node.js performance. We discuss his journey into Node.js contribution, the challenges of URL parser implementation, the impact of competing runtimes, and more. We also discuss the current state of backend javascript's competing runtimes, and his views of VC Money and Open Source Funding.
https://twitter.com/yagiznizipli
https://www.yagiz.co/
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Tooltips
Andrew
https://zackoverflow.dev/writing/flappy-bird-in-type-level-typescript
https://github.com/farm-fe/farm
Justin
https://github.com/seanoliver/audioflarey
https://wasmer.io/posts/announcing-winterjs-service-workers
Yagiz
https://ui.com/us/camera-security
https://prsguitars.com/electrics/model/silver_sky_2021
This week we talk with Matteo Collina about his background, contributions to the Node.js community, and his work on Fastify and Platformatic. Matteo is a prolific open source contributor and maintainer of many popular projects including Fastify, Pino, Mercurius, Avvio, and fast-json-stringify. He is also a Node.js TSC member and on the board of the OpenJS Foundation. Join us as we discuss the current state of Node.js, the future of JavaScript runtimes, and the importance of open source sustainability.
https://github.com/mcollina
https://nodeland.dev/
https://twitter.com/matteocollina
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