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A new era is upon us, and Tangent💚 is back with our fourth new limited series, hosted by Proptech entrepreneur Edward Cohen, and venture capitalists Jeffrey Berman (Partner at Camber Creek) and Zach Aarons (Co-founder and GP at MetaProp). Tangent unites Proptech founders💡, real estate investors🏢, urban leaders🏙 and passionate creators🌎 who are improving our communities and cities. Join us to learn how we can solve present day challenges with innovative technology and greater collaboration.
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➡️ Tangent💚Proptech: Founders, Real estate investors and operators, and urban leaders sharing groundbreaking companies, ideas, entrepreneurial lessons and inspiring stories. Stimulating conversation focused on housing innovation, the future of office and Climate Tech.
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Christelle Rohaut is the Founder and CEO of Codi (backed by a16z), where she's building the walk-to-work revolution. Codi offers turnkey, private office spaces with the most flexible terms on the market. In a matter of days, any company can find a space for their team, with full and part-time options, outsourced office management, and flexible leases. Codi has also created a Relief Fund to help businesses impacted by WeWork's struggles. Christelle is an Urban Planner who aspires to achieve positive social and natural impacts for happier livelihoods. She seeks to innovatively rethink urban systems to help cities be a happier place for all.(2:11) - State of Office market(13:58) - Feature: Housing Trust Silicon Valley(15:10) - What's wrong with traditional Coworking(21:43) - Types of buildings partnering with Codi(23:56) - Codi's WeWon't marketing campaign(29:34) - Collaboration Superpower: Brian Chesky (Airbnb CEO & Co-founder) & Conchita Martinez (Spanish tennis champion & coach)💚 Learn more:➡️ Codi's site➡️ Christelle Rohaut on LinkedIn💚 Feature:➡️ Housing Trust Silicon Valley's site - Housing finance & public-private partnerships to create more equitable & affordable communities.💚 Connect with Tangent:➡️ Edward Cohen on LinkedIn➡️ Edward Cohen on X➡️ Jeff Berman on LinkedIn➡️ Jeff Berman on X➡️ Zach Aarons on LinkedIn➡️ Tangent on LinkedIn➡️ Tangent on XDisclaimer: Tangent podcast is for entertainment and informational purposes only, you should not construe any such information or other material as legal, tax, investment, financial, or other advise. Nothing contained on our program constitutes a solicitation, recommendation, endorsement, or offer by Tangent, Camber Creek, MetaProp, or any third party guest to buy or sell any securities, public or private, other financial instruments or funds.
Katharine Lau is the CEO and Co-founder of Stuf, a self storage startup delivering modern, tech-enabled storage to consumers and businesses. Stuf partners with real estate owners to monetize basements, garages, and other spaces in commercial buildings as storage, creating new cash flow opportunities for landlords while providing neighborhoods with a new amenity. Stuf was recognized by Fast Company as one of The World’s Most Innovative Companies in 2022. Previously, Kat led the supply-side business of Industrious, the nation's leading premium workplace and coworking provider, where she pioneered an industry shift to asset- and liability-light agreements with property owners.(1:42) - Stuf origin story(5:46) - Target markets and type of buildings suited for conversions(10:00) - Business model & scaling CRE conversions(11:32) - Stuf's tech stack(15:02) - Feature: Housing Trust Silicon Valley(16:14) - Industrious transition from asset-heavy to asset-light(20:44) - WeWork's tumultuous office lease renegotiations(22:34) - Future of office uses(25:44) - Office-to-art space conversion(27:22) - Collaboration Superpower: Marie Kondo💚 Learn more:➡️ Stuf's site➡️ Katharine Lau on LinkedIn💚 Feature:➡️ Housing Trust Silicon Valley's site - Housing finance & public-private partnerships to create more equitable & affordable communities.💚 Connect with Tangent:➡️ Edward Cohen on LinkedIn➡️ Edward Cohen on X➡️ Jeff Berman on LinkedIn➡️ Jeff Berman on X➡️ Zach Aarons on LinkedIn➡️ Tangent on LinkedIn➡️ Tangent on XDisclaimer: Tangent podcast is for entertainment and informational purposes only, you should not construe any such information or other material as legal, tax, investment, financial, or other advise. Nothing contained on our program constitutes a solicitation, recommendation, endorsement, or offer by Tangent, Camber Creek, MetaProp, or any third party guest to buy or sell any securities, public or private, other financial instruments or funds.
Ryan Simonetti is the CEO and co-founder of Convene, a global hospitality company that owns and manages premium Meeting, Event & Workplace locations around the world. His unique expertise in real estate acquisitions, development, and finance has helped catapult Convene to become a pioneer in the commercial real estate industry. Ryan is also the co-founder & Chairman of Ease Capital, a digital-first commercial lending platform that combines data, technology & world-class customer support to streamline the multifamily financing process from end-to-end. Ryan has been recognized for his transformative achievements on Commercial Observer’s inaugural Power PropTech List, Real Estate Forum’s 50 Under 40 list, Inc. Magazine’s '30 Under 30', a list of America’s Most Promising Young Entrepreneurs; was named 'Top Entrepreneur' by Crain’s New York, and was a finalist in Ernst & Young’s Entrepreneur of the Year® New York Awards. (3:00) - WeWork's bankruptcy impact on the Office industry(8:17) - Tech vs Real Estate valuations(11:13) - Feature: Housing Trust Silicon Valley (site)(12:26) - Office Markets comparison(16:44) - Convene's performance & KPI's(18:07) - Innovative experience management(25:11) - Office AR & VR adoption(29:07) - Ease Capital - tech-enabled Multifamily lender(31:52) - Collaboration Superpower: Michael Jordan💚 Learn more:➡️ Convene's site➡️ Ease Capital's site➡️ Ryan Simonetti on LinkedIn➡️ Ryan Simonetti on X💚 Feature:➡️ Housing Trust Silicon Valley's site - Housing finance & public-private partnerships to create more equitable & affordable communities.💚 Connect with Tangent:➡️ Edward Cohen on LinkedIn➡️ Edward Cohen on X➡️ Jeff Berman on LinkedIn➡️ Jeff Berman on X➡️ Zach Aarons on LinkedIn➡️ Tangent on LinkedIn➡️ Tangent on XDisclaimer: Tangent podcast is for entertainment and informational purposes only, you should not construe any such information or other material as legal, tax, investment, financial, or other advise. Nothing contained on our program constitutes a solicitation, recommendation, endorsement, or offer by Tangent, Camber Creek, MetaProp, or any third party guest to buy or sell any securities, public or private, other financial instruments or funds.
Eliot Brown is the co-author of The Cult of We (with Maureen Farrell), a WSJ best-selling book, and winner of the Financial Times, Fortune, and NPR Best Book of the Year Awards. Eliot covers startups and venture capital for The Wall Street Journal in London. He joined the Journal in 2010, when he was hired to cover commercial real estate in the wake of the financial crisis. He previously worked at the New York Observer, where he covered economic development and local politics.(2:10) - From The Cult of We to WeCrashed(3:42) - Importance of the book and it's lessons(6:18) - WeWork's board of directors & enablers(8:02) - Valuations: Real Estate vs. Tech(14:20) - HostAI - (site) AI-powered guest messaging & Airbnb rental software(16:23) - Where did it all go down hill for Adam's WeWork(19:15) - WeWork's most impactful tricks(24:16) - Cult of the Founder & power of storytelling(40:14) - WeWork's tech acquisitions(43:29) - Private vs. Public market frenzy💚 Learn more:➡️ The Cult of We's site➡️ Eliot Brown on X➡️ Get The Cult of We book on Amazon➡️ Get The Cult of We book on Bookshop💚 Feature:➡️ HostAI's site - AI-powered guest messaging for Airbnb hosts & boutique hotels 💚 Connect with Tangent:➡️ Edward Cohen on LinkedIn➡️ Edward Cohen on X➡️ Jeff Berman on LinkedIn➡️ Jeff Berman on X➡️ Zach Aarons on LinkedIn➡️ Tangent on LinkedIn➡️ Tangent on XDisclaimer: Tangent podcast is for entertainment and informational purposes only, you should not construe any such information or other material as legal, tax, investment, financial, or other advise. Nothing contained on our program constitutes a solicitation, recommendation, endorsement, or offer by Tangent, Camber Creek, MetaProp, or any third party guest to buy or sell any securities, public or private, other financial instruments or funds.
Groundfloor is a private real estate lending marketplace open to non-accredited investors. Groundfloor opens the door to short-term, high-yield returns backed by real estate. Their platform brings together individual investors looking for short-term lending investments and borrowers looking for short-term financing for their specific real estate projects. Borrowers get access to more flexible, faster and cheaper capital than a traditional bank or a hard-money lender. Investors get access to short-term, high-yield investments. Groundfloor earned a historic qualification by the SEC in August 2015 to sell private real estate debt investments to non-accredited investors.💚 Learn more:➡️ Groundfloor's site➡️ Nick Bhargava on LinkedIn➡️ Blueprint Vegas' site 💚 Connect with Tangent:➡️ Edward Cohen on LinkedIn➡️ Edward Cohen on Twitter➡️ Jeff Berman on LinkedIn➡️ Jeff Berman on Twitter➡️ Zach Aarons on LinkedIn➡️ Tangent on LinkedIn➡️ Tangent on TwitterDisclaimer: Tangent podcast is for entertainment and informational purposes only, you should not construe any such information or other material as legal, tax, investment, financial, or other advise. Nothing contained on our program constitutes a solicitation, recommendation, endorsement, or offer by Tangent, Camber Creek, MetaProp, or any third party guest to buy or sell any securities, public or private, other financial instruments or funds.
Remen Okoruwa is product-minded leader who's working to unlock data for the property management industry. Remen and his co-founders met while they were working at Hubspot, and are now bringing their deep expertise about integrations to streamline Multifamily property management operations for all stakeholders. Propify (YC W23) recently raised $3.3M from VC firm Prudence, with additional funding from Fifth Wall, RXR, PropTech Angel Group, and HubSpot co-founder Dharmesh Shah. This episode is part of the Tangent @ Blueprint series, the most global event of Proptech innovators leading the charge in changing the built world in Las Vegas every September.(0:20) - Propify's origin story(1:34) - Benefits for Multifamily Proptech companies(2:55) - Translating data into insights & action(3:58) - Multifamily use cases(6:01) - Propify's unique business model(7:56) - Hubspot lessons for Proptech(9:21) - Where will Propify be in the next 12-24 months(10:16) - Key growth metrics💚 Learn more:➡️ Propify's site➡️ Remen Okoruwa on LinkedIn➡️ Blueprint Vegas' site💚 Connect with Tangent:➡️ Edward Cohen on Twitter➡️ Edward Cohen on LinkedIn➡️ Jeff Berman on LinkedIn➡️ Zach Aarons on Twitter➡️ Tangent on LinkedIn➡️ Tangent on TwitterDisclaimer: Tangent podcast is for entertainment and informational purposes only, you should not construe any such information or other material as legal, tax, investment, financial, or other advise. Nothing contained on our program constitutes a solicitation, recommendation, endorsement, or offer by Tangent, Camber Creek, MetaProp, or any third party guest to buy or sell any securities, public or private, other financial instruments or funds.
Aleksandr Gampel co-founded Cuby Technologies with Aleh Kandrashou in 2021 to tackle the construction labor shortage. After 200,000 engineering hours, Cuby is setting the stage to commercialize hundreds of mobile micro-factories (MMF's) on or near construction sites to enable developers, general contractors and local partners to build better buildings faster, more affordably with less labor. This episode is part of the Tangent @ Blueprint series. Blueprint is the most global event of Proptech innovators leading the charge in changing the built world in Las Vegas every September.💚 Learn more:➡️ Cuby's site➡️ Aleksandr Gampel on LinkedIn➡️ Blueprint Vegas' site💚 Connect with Tangent:➡️ Edward Cohen on Twitter➡️ Edward Cohen on LinkedIn➡️ Jeff Berman on LinkedIn➡️ Zach Aarons on Twitter➡️ Tangent on LinkedIn➡️ Tangent on TwitterDisclaimer: Tangent podcast is for entertainment and informational purposes only, you should not construe any such information or other material as legal, tax, investment, financial, or other advise. Nothing contained on our program constitutes a solicitation, recommendation, endorsement, or offer by Tangent, Camber Creek, MetaProp, or any third party guest to buy or sell any securities, public or private, other financial instruments or funds.
John Rogers is the Chief Innovation Officer at CoreLogic, leading R&D on the biggest asset class in the world - the US Real Estate Economy, and driving new product development to market via an iconic property & location intelligence platform called Discovery. This platform allows clients that rely on data, insights, models and answers to drive growth or mitigate risk on their book of business. John asserts he's been fortunate to have worked in all 4 corners of the world leading large transformation projects in finance, retail, pharmaceuticals, logistics and airlines, including at IBM and British Airways. This episode is part of the Tangent @ Blueprint series. Blueprint is the most global event of Proptech innovators leading the charge in changing the built world in Las Vegas every September.(0:34) - Powering US Real Estate market(1:30) - Climate Risk Analytics for Housing ecosystem(4:28) - Truth data set(5:56) - Streamlining affordable housing development & collaboration(8:10) - Collaboration Superpower: Dr. Katherine Calvin at Chief Scientist at NASA💚 Learn more:➡️ CoreLogic's site➡️ John Rogers on LinkedIn💚 Connect with Tangent:➡️ Edward Cohen on Twitter➡️ Edward Cohen on LinkedIn➡️ Jeff Berman on LinkedIn➡️ Zach Aarons on Twitter➡️ Tangent on LinkedIn➡️ Tangent on TwitterDisclaimer: Tangent podcast is for entertainment and informational purposes only, you should not construe any such information or other material as legal, tax, investment, financial, or other advise. Nothing contained on our program constitutes a solicitation, recommendation, endorsement, or offer by Tangent, Camber Creek, MetaProp, or any third party guest to buy or sell any securities, public or private, other financial instruments or funds.
Salman Ahmad is the CEO and Co-founder of a16z-backed Mosaic, a construction technology company that builds software that makes homebuilding more scalable and efficient. Mosaic was founded in 2017 by Salman and Sep Kamvar, whom were two computer scientists working together at MIT and Stanford developing machine learning algorithms applied in the real world. Together, they developed a bold vision for the home building industry: construction as code. Mosaic uses their software themselves to manage construction on behalf of homebuilders, enabling them to build more homes. Salman has 20 technical publications and patents in the areas of software systems, programming languages, machine learning, human-computer interaction, and sensor hardware. He also worked with Microsoft developing virtualized datacenter solutions. (3:33) - Mosaic's & Salman's origin story(8:35) - Feature: Blueprint Vegas 2024 - Tangent listeners get a $300 discount at BlueprintVegas.com/Tangent(9:30) - Housing construction pain points(12:40) - Construction productivity issues(15:12) - Mosaic's business model (23:26) - Aligning Contech with VC timelines & incentives(30:37) - Mosaic's biggest challenges(35:26) - Macro & micro factors of construction labor shortage (43:19) - Collaboration Superpower: Christopher Alexander (Co-author of A Pattern Language)💚 Learn more:➡️ Mosaic's site➡️ Salman Ahmad on LinkedIn💚 Feature:➡️ Blueprint Vegas 2024 - Tangent listeners get a $300 discount at BlueprintVegas.com/Tangent💚 Connect with Tangent:➡️ Edward Cohen on LinkedIn➡️ Edward Cohen on X➡️ Jeff Berman on LinkedIn➡️ Jeff Berman on X➡️ Zach Aarons on LinkedIn➡️ Tangent on LinkedIn➡️ Tangent on XDisclaimer: Tangent podcast is for entertainment and informational purposes only, you should not construe any such information or other material as legal, tax, investment, financial, or other advise. Nothing contained on our program constitutes a solicitation, recommendation, endorsement, or offer by Tangent, Camber Creek, MetaProp, or any third party guest to buy or sell any securities, public or private, other financial instruments or funds.
Eoin Matthews is the Co-founder at Point, a home equity investment company making home equity wealth accessible to homeowners without creating a monthly debt obligation. Homeowners get upfront funds from Point in return for a portion of your home’s future appreciation. Point recently announced an oversubscribed $141M securitization, which marked it's second rated securitization and third overall, with its collaboration with Atalaya Capital Management. Eoin previously served as the VP of Business Development at Rakuten and has an extensive background in education.(2:20) - Point's & Eoin's origin story(5:43) - Potential HEI benefits for investors(9:20) - Point's securitizations strategy(11:42) - Capital stack evolution(14:17) - M&A activity in Housing tech companies(17:00) - Feature: Blueprint Vegas 2024(17:54) - State of the Housing Market(24:07) - Affordability of owning vs. renting a home(29:47) - Underwriting Proptech in the current rate environment(32:28) - Collaboration Superpower: Steve Wozniak (Apple Co-founder)💚 Learn more:➡️ Point's site➡️ Eoin Matthews on LinkedIn💚 Feature:➡️ Blueprint Vegas 2024 - Tangent listeners get a $300 discount at BlueprintVegas.com/Tangent 💚 Connect with Tangent:➡️ Edward Cohen on LinkedIn➡️ Edward Cohen on X➡️ Jeff Berman on LinkedIn➡️ Jeff Berman on X➡️ Zach Aarons on LinkedIn➡️ Tangent on LinkedIn➡️ Tangent on XDisclaimer: Tangent podcast is for entertainment and informational purposes only, you should not construe any such information or other material as legal, tax, investment, financial, or other advise. Nothing contained on our program constitutes a solicitation, recommendation, endorsement, or offer by Tangent, Camber Creek, MetaProp, or any third party guest to buy or sell any securities, public or private, other financial instruments or funds.
Raunaq Singh is the founder & CEO of Roam, the platform for purchasing a home with an assumable, low-rate mortgage included. Prior to founding Roam, Raunaq spent a decade in various product and operations roles across Uber, Opendoor and Culdesac. He received a Bachelor's degree in Political Economy from NYU and currently resides in New York City.(2:26) - Lessons from Opendoor & Uber(5:01) - Roam origin story (7:36) - Feature: Housing Trust Silicon Valley (8:48) - Assumable mortgage mechanics(14:55) - Roam's Business Model(16:38) - Benefits for mortgage lenders(18:58) - Roam's homebuyers & sellers(21:10) - Impact of interest rates on the business(22:10) - Roam's New Closing Guarantee(27:54) - Housing market in 2024(31:59) - Collaboration Superpower: FHA, VA, Zillow, Redfin💚 Learn more:➡️ Roam's site➡️ Raunaq Singh on LinkedIn💚 Feature:➡️ Housing Trust Silicon Valley's site - Housing finance & public-private partnerships to create more equitable & affordable communities.💚 Connect with Tangent:➡️ Edward Cohen on LinkedIn➡️ Edward Cohen on X➡️ Jeff Berman on LinkedIn➡️ Jeff Berman on X➡️ Zach Aarons on LinkedIn➡️ Tangent on LinkedIn➡️ Tangent on XDisclaimer: Tangent podcast is for entertainment and informational purposes only, you should not construe any such information or other material as legal, tax, investment, financial, or other advise. Nothing contained on our program constitutes a solicitation, recommendation, endorsement, or offer by Tangent, Camber Creek, MetaProp, or any third party guest to buy or sell any securities, public or private, other financial instruments or funds.
Ryan Frazier is the Co-founder and CEO at Arrived Homes, the Real Estate tech company that Jeff Bezos and Marc Benioff invested in to make the wealth building potential of owning rental homes & vacation rentals more accessible. Ryan and the Arrived team believe they can do that by simplifying the process, and lowering the cost to get started. With Arrived anyone can buy shares in income producing rental properties starting at just $100. Arrived takes care of all the real estate operations so that investors can sit back and collect net rental income and their share of the home's appreciation. (2:42) - Arrived Homes origin story(7:49) - Arrived's end-to-end platform(9:14) - Investor returns with Arrived vs. REITs(14:44) - Seattle's Proptech Ecosystem(16:30) - Feature: Housing Trust Silicon Valley (site) (17:41) - Investing in single family homes vs. Residential funds(21:48) - Arrived's real estate investor community(24:35) - Proptech's strategy to competing with Institutional SFR(30:06) - Build-to-rent opportunity(33:57) - Housing market predictions for 2024(39:42) - Collaboration Superpower: Christina Tosi (Founder at Milk Bar - Wikipedia)💚 Learn more:➡️ Arrived Homes' site➡️ Ryan Frazier on LinkedIn💚 Feature:➡️ Housing Trust Silicon Valley's site - Housing finance & public-private partnerships to create more equitable & affordable communities.💚 Connect with Tangent:➡️ Edward Cohen on LinkedIn➡️ Edward Cohen on X➡️ Zach Aarons on LinkedIn➡️ Jeff Berman on LinkedIn➡️ Jeff Berman on X➡️ Tangent on LinkedIn➡️ Tangent on XDisclaimer: Tangent podcast is for entertainment and informational purposes only, you should not construe any such information or other material as legal, tax, investment, financial, or other advise. Nothing contained on our program constitutes a solicitation, recommendation, endorsement, or offer by Tangent, Camber Creek, MetaProp, or any third party guest to buy or sell any securities, public or private, other financial instruments or funds.
Nick Narodny is the Founder and CEO at Aalto, a real estate marketplace that lets people buy and sell homes online. Nick previously co-founded Grovo, a microlearning company for real estate agents that was acquired by Cornerstone on Demand. Real Estate runs in the family for Nick, after being raised and inspired by his real estate agent mother and father. Aalto combines modern technology with a centralized team of licensed agents. Buyers and sellers use digital tools to lead most of the process themselves. Aalto agents provide on-demand support, review offers, and handle closing. This online model aims to provide a consistent, high quality experience while costing less to operate, so buyers and sellers save money with low fees and rebates.(1:55) - Aalto, buy a home online(3:38) - Nick & Aalto's origin story(8:42) - Aalto vs. traditional broker(17:02) - Feature: Housing Trust Silicon Valley (site)(18:13) - NAR Lawsuit & it's ramifications for the industry(30:38) - Predictions for buyer & seller commissions in 2024(35:43) - Collaboration Superpower: Winston Churchill💚 Learn more:➡️ Aalto's site➡️ Nick Narodny on LinkedIn💚 Feature:➡️ Housing Trust Silicon Valley's site - Housing finance & public-private partnerships to create more equitable & affordable communities.💚 Connect with Tangent:➡️ Edward Cohen on LinkedIn➡️ Edward Cohen on X➡️ Jeff Berman on LinkedIn➡️ Jeff Berman on X➡️ Zach Aarons on LinkedIn➡️ Tangent on LinkedIn➡️ Tangent on XDisclaimer: Tangent podcast is for entertainment and informational purposes only, you should not construe any such information or other material as legal, tax, investment, financial, or other advise. Nothing contained on our program constitutes a solicitation, recommendation, endorsement, or offer by Tangent, Camber Creek, MetaProp, or any third party guest to buy or sell any securities, public or private, other financial instruments or funds.
Mike Schneider is the CEO & Co-founder of Acre Homes. Acre combines the ease of renting with the financial upside of owning. Acre is available in Raleigh-Durham, and will be launching in Atlanta and Nashville soon. Previously, Mike served as the VP of Technology Strategy at RE/MAX, and Co-founded First, a real estate tech company that leveraged machine learning to help agents win more business.(2:12) - Acre: Breaking the Renting or Home Mortgage paradigm(7:13) - Acre's model during variable interest rate environment(8:59) - Opportunity residents & investors(10:19) - Market growth(10:54) - Taking the Tesla approach: 10x better than mortgage(12:48) - Buying a home with a partner(15:28) - Acre Homes price point(16:47) - Feature: Blueprint (17:52) - Rent-to-own, buy before you sell, Home Equity products.(21:41) - Challenges of mortgages & bias in home appraisals(25:07) - Generating returns in Single family homes(25:42) - North Carolina ecosystem: Raleigh-Durham Research Triangle(29:51) - US cities transport options(33:26) - Collaboration Superpower: Steve Jobs(38:57) - Discomfort Zone: Is Built-to-rent overrated?💚 Learn more:➡️ Acre Homes (site) ➡️ Mike Schneider on LinkedIn 💚 Feature:➡️ Blueprint (BlueprintVegas.com/Tangent for ticket discount) - Most global event of Proptech innovators leading the charge in changing the built world in Las Vegas this September. 💚 Connect with Tangent:➡️ Edward Cohen on Twitter➡️ Edward Cohen on LinkedIn➡️ Jeff Berman on LinkedIn➡️ Zach Aarons on Twitter➡️ Tangent on LinkedIn➡️ Tangent on TwitterDisclaimer: Tangent podcast is for entertainment and informational purposes only, you should not construe any such information or other material as legal, tax, investment, financial, or other advise. Nothing contained on our program constitutes a solicitation, recommendation, endorsement, or offer by Tangent, Camber Creek, MetaProp, or any third party guest to buy or sell any securities, public or private, other financial instruments or funds.
Brent Wadas is the CEO at BotBuilt, a Y-Combinator Construction technology company based in Durham, NC that is revolutionizing building homes with robots to address the labor shortage and housing affordability crisis. Brent served in the US Army in Afghanistan after 9/11, where he fulfilled his patriotic calling. BotBuilt employs a methodology that makes homebuilding less capital intensive, creating less waste and enabling a much more sustainable building process. Brent served over 10 years in the US Army as Assistant (to the) Regional Manager. Brent is an experienced business entrepreneur with a flair for achieving goals through actions and a passion for bringing dreams into focus.(1:34) - Brent Wadas' entrepreneurial & military journey(8:57) - What makes BotBuilt special(13:52) - Feature: CREx - Makes it easy to get data out of Yardi, Salesforce, and more.(15:15) - BotBuilt's factories: Durham, NC(16:56) - Lessons from Katerra's $2 billion saga(22:29) - Delivering a venture-scale return in Contech(25:51) - BotBuilt's unit economics & business model(31:49) - Contech adoption among homebuilders(34:40) - Collaboration Superpower: William "Wild Bill" Donovan (Head of the OSS, precursor to CIA) - Wiki (35:54) - Brent's 'Grand Daddy's' influence: 1st Scientific sharing agreement between USA & USSR 💚 Learn more: ➡️ BotBuilt's site ➡️ Brent's email: brent@botbuilt.com➡️ Katerra - Wiki 💚 Feature:➡️ CREx (learn more) - Makes it easy to get data out of Yardi, Salesforce, and more.💚 Connect with Tangent:➡️ Edward Cohen on Twitter➡️ Edward Cohen on LinkedIn➡️ Jeff Berman on LinkedIn➡️ Zach Aarons on Twitter➡️ Tangent on LinkedIn➡️ Tangent on TwitterDisclaimer: Tangent podcast is for entertainment and informational purposes only, you should not construe any such information or other material as legal, tax, investment, financial, or other advise. Nothing contained on our program constitutes a solicitation, recommendation, endorsement, or offer by Tangent, Camber Creek, MetaProp, or any third party guest to buy or sell any securities, public or private, other financial instruments or funds.
Timothy Swanson is the President & CEO of Inherent L3C, a Chicago-based low profit LLC focused on enabling and empowering long term affordable homeownership and generational wealth creation through modular housing development, workforce platform and a smart home marketplace for future homeowners.💚Learn more:➡️Inherent L3C (site) - Transforming lives, communities and generations through homeownership💚Featured:➡️Propify (learn more) - The single source of truth for your CRE asset management➡️Blueprint (BlueprintVegas.com/Tangent for ticket discount) - Most global event of Proptech innovators leading the charge in changing the built world in Las Vegas this September.💚Connect with Tangent:➡️Edward Cohen on Twitter➡️Edward Cohen on LinkedIn➡️Jeff Berman on LinkedIn➡️Zach Aarons on Twitter➡️Tangent on LinkedIn➡️Tangent on Twitter(3:00) - Tim & Inherent L3C's story(4:21) - L3C structure, low-profit mission-driven limited liability company(7:11) - Feature: Blueprint - Largest event of Proptech innovators in Las Vegas on Sep. 11th-13th(8:18) - Running 3 companies in 1(10:15) - How is Inherent L3C funded?(13:40) - Workforce: Creating a jobs platform for residential development(16:11) - Workforce housing with better than living wage(19:25) - Single family vs higher density housing(21:26) - Tangent 'shiduch' - Roots 🤝 Inherent?(24:26) - VC friendly businesses(28:42) - Political strategy to propel change(33:29) - Feature: Propify - One integration to rule all property mgmt. software(34:35) - Future of Cities: Chicago(38:39) - Collaboration Superpower: Vinton CerfDisclaimer: Tangent podcast is for entertainment and informational purposes only, you should not construe any such information or other material as legal, tax, investment, financial, or other advise. Nothing contained on our program constitutes a solicitation, recommendation, endorsement, or offer by Tangent, Camber Creek, MetaProp, or any third party guest to buy or sell any securities, public or private, other financial instruments or funds.
Daniel Dorfman is the Co-founder at Roots, an Atlanta-based company aiming to help 1 million people create wealth through residential real estate investing and their innovative ''Rent it like you own it'' program. 💚Learn more:➡️Roots (site) - The real estate portfolio that creates wealth for you and its Residents💚Feature:➡️Dottid (book a demo) - The single source of truth for your CRE asset management 💚Connect with Tangent:➡️Edward Cohen on Twitter➡️Edward Cohen on LinkedIn➡️Jeff Berman on LinkedIn➡️Zach Aarons on Twitter➡️Tangent on LinkedIn➡️Tangent on Twitter(1:53) - Roots' pitch: Turning renters into investors(3:59) - Roots' investors, assets & strategy (6:51) - Tangent Glossary: Reg A REITs(9:00) - Rent pricing strategy & planning fund reserves(13:32) - Roots' company growth, rent growth & CoC(16:19) - Renter incentives: Rent a home like you own it(18:45) - Feature - Dottid: All-in-one commercial real estate asset management platform(21:07) - Scaling in Atlanta market and beyond(22:22) - Real Estate fund type and structure(25:29) - Jeff's lesson for Proptech founders: to raise VC or not to(26:43) - Trading lower CoC yield for higher appreciation & financial empowerment(28:53) - Secret sauce(32:55) - Discomfort Zone: Building resident trust (35:07) - Resident community gamification & creating network effects (38:26) - Collaboration Superpower: Public-private partnerships, Multifamily REIT's & Mel Brunson Disclaimer: Tangent podcast is for entertainment and informational purposes only, you should not construe any such information or other material as legal, tax, investment, financial, or other advise. Nothing contained on our program constitutes a solicitation, recommendation, endorsement, or offer by Tangent, Camber Creek, MetaProp, or any third party guest to buy or sell any securities, public or private, other financial instruments or funds.
Sukesh Shekar is the CEO & Founder at Altgage, the Google search of mortgages, bringing simply affordable mortgages to home buyers. . Sukesh believes in the American dream of homeownership. However, mortgages are more unaffordable than ever and most mortgage processes lack transparency. Altgage makes home buying more affordable with smart mortgages that build wealth over time.💚 Learn more:➡️ Altgage's website - Mortgage deals that make home buying affordable. ➡️ Sukesh Shekar on LinkedIn💚 Feature:➡️ Parking Reform Network (website) - Education about the impact of parking policy on climate change, equity, housing, and traffic. 💚 Connect with Tangent:➡️ Edward Cohen on Twitter➡️ Edward Cohen on LinkedIn➡️ Jeff Berman on LinkedIn➡️ Zach Aarons on Twitter➡️ Tangent on LinkedIn➡️ Tangent on Twitter(1:54) - Building the Google search for affordable mortgages(7:23) - Demystifying mortgage brokers compensation(12:17) - Feature: Parking Reform Network (website) - Education about the impact of parking policy on climate change, equity, housing, and traffic.(13:26) - Tangent glossary: mortgage originators, mortgage brokers, 'shop for your rates', market rate dispersion, PMI, cost of capital, UWM, mortgage origination.(18:05) - Lack of transparency, many middlemen, too much fat(18:57) - Numbers vs. existential issues for VC's(19:40) - Renting vs. owning a home(30:53) - Altgage's scale, repeatability & protectable IP(33:45) - Mortgage startups performance(33:57) - Altgage's innovative mortgage search(37:50) - Altgage's teamDisclaimer: Tangent podcast is for entertainment and informational purposes only, you should not construe any such information or other material as legal, tax, investment, financial, or other advise. Nothing contained on our program constitutes a solicitation, recommendation, endorsement, or offer by Tangent, Camber Creek, MetaProp, or any third party guest to buy or sell any securities, public or private, other financial instruments or funds.
Dan Wenhold is an early stage investor in built world technology and Partner at Fifth Wall, where he co-leads the Real Estate Technology Investment team. Dan has led investments in innovative CRE tech companies like Fractional, Cottage and Neighbor.com. Prior to joining Fifth Wall, Dan was the first employee and Director of Retail at The Black Tux and a growth equity investor at Battery Ventures. (01:46) - Dan's Journey to Fifth Wall(03:19) - Evaluating PropTech Startups(05:26) - The Role of AI and Interoperability in PropTech(07:19) - Challenges and Opportunities in PropTech Investment(17:31) - Feature: Pacaso - Luxury vacation home ownership, elevated. Be part of Pacaso’s growth as an early shareholder at Pacaso.com/invest(20:15) - Impact of Trump & Republican Administration on Proptech(30:00) - Spotlight on Neighbor.com & Self Storage(33:55) - Spotlight on Cottage(37:19) - Collaboration Superpower: Michael Jordan (Wiki)💚 Learn more:➡️ Visit Fifth Wall's site➡️ Dan Wenhold on LinkedIn💚 Feature:➡️ Pacaso - Luxury vacation home ownership, elevated. Be part of Pacaso’s growth as an early shareholder at Pacaso.com/invest💚 Connect with Tangent:➡️ Edward Cohen on LinkedIn➡️ Jeff Berman on LinkedIn➡️ Zach Aarons on LinkedIn➡️ Tangent on LinkedInDisclaimer: Tangent podcast is for entertainment and informational purposes only, you should not construe any such information or other material as legal, tax, investment, financial, or other advise. Nothing contained on our program constitutes a solicitation, recommendation, endorsement, or offer by Tangent, Camber Creek, MetaProp, or any third party guest to buy or sell any securities, public or private, other financial instruments or funds.
Taylor Hou is the CEO and Chief Happiness Officer at APM Help, a company serving over 300,000 single family homes nationwide dedicated to professionalizing the single family property management industry by bringing clarity and efficiency for accounting and operations. A serial entrepreneur and tech investor, Taylor is passionate about applying lean startup principles to create process efficiencies in tech and startups. With a focus on streamlining products and services for an optimal user experience, Taylor thrives on improving systems and building better processes to make them more effective and impactful.(00:56) - Taylor Hou's Background and Journey(02:43) - Evolution of Property Management(04:34) - Challenges in Property Management Roll-ups(13:45) - Feature: Blueprint - The Future of Real Estate 2025(14:35) - Institutional SFR's Impact on Housing(18:46) - APM Help's business(28:36) - Current Success & Future Innovations(31:25) - Embedded Banking Opportunity(34:23) - Unlocking Liquidity in Rental Housing(42:34) The Future of Property Management Tech(47:45) - Collaboration Superpower: Masayoshi Son (CEO of SoftBank, Wiki)💚 Learn more:➡️ Visit APM Help's site➡️ Taylor Hou on LinkedIn💚 Feature:➡️ Blueprint - The Future of Real Estate - Register for 2025: The Premier Event for Industry Executives, Real Estate & Construction Tech Startups and VCs, at The Venetian, Las Vegas on September 16th-18th, 2025.💚 Connect with Tangent:➡️ Edward Cohen on LinkedIn➡️ Jeff Berman on LinkedIn➡️ Zach Aarons on LinkedIn➡️ Tangent on LinkedInDisclaimer: Tangent podcast is for entertainment and informational purposes only, you should not construe any such information or other material as legal, tax, investment, financial, or other advise. Nothing contained on our program constitutes a solicitation, recommendation, endorsement, or offer by Tangent, Camber Creek, MetaProp, or any third party guest to buy or sell any securities, public or private, other financial instruments or funds.
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