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"You Cannot Fight Misogyny Without Fighting Fatphobia."

"You Cannot Fight Misogyny Without Fighting Fatphobia."

Update: 2024-01-11


Today Virginia is chatting with author and feminist philosopher Kate Manne, about her new book Unshrinking: How To Face FatphobiaKate is also an associate professor of philosophy at Cornell University and author of Down Girl: The Logic of Misogyny and Entitled: How Male Privilege Hurts Women.

All of Kate’s books, including Unshrinking, are available in the Burnt Toast Bookshop!

Don’t forget, you can always take 10 percent off that purchase if you also order (or have already ordered!) Fat Talk from Split Rock Books! (Just use the code FATTALK at checkout.)

And if you love today’s conversation you should come see Kate and Virginia together at Community Bookstore in Brooklyn on January 26. We’ll be celebrating the launch of Unshrinking and we would love to see you there

To get all of the links and resources mentioned in this episode, as well as a complete transcript, visit our show page. 

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Disclaimer: Virginia is a journalist and human with a lot of informed opinions. Virginia is not a nutritionist, therapist, doctor, or any kind of health care provider. The conversation you're about to hear and all of the advice and opinions she and her guests give are just for entertainment, information, and education purposes only. None of this is a substitute for individual medical or mental health advice.

FAT TALK is out! Order your signed copy from Virginia's favorite independent bookstore, Split Rock Books (they ship anywhere in the US!). Or order it from your independent bookstore, or from Barnes & NobleAmazonTarget, or Kobo or anywhere else you like to buy books. You can also order the audio book from or Audible.


The Burnt Toast Podcast is produced and hosted by Virginia Sole-Smith. Follow Virginia on Instagram.Burnt Toast transcripts and essays are edited and formatted by Corinne Fay, who runs @SellTradePlus, an Instagram account where you can buy and sell plus size clothing.The Burnt Toast logo is by Deanna Lowe.Our theme music is by Jeff Bailey and Chris Maxwell.Tommy Harron is our audio engineer.Thanks for listening and for supporting anti-diet, body liberation journalism. 

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"You Cannot Fight Misogyny Without Fighting Fatphobia."

"You Cannot Fight Misogyny Without Fighting Fatphobia."

Virginia Sole-Smith and Kate Manne