Some podcasts are self-recommending on the ‘yep, I’m going to be breaking this one down’ level. This was very clearly one of those. So here we go.

As usual for podcast posts, the baseline bullet points describe key points made, and then the nested statements are my commentary.

If I am quoting directly I use quote marks, otherwise assume paraphrases.

Rather than worry about timestamps, I’ll use YouTube's section titles, as it's not that hard to find things via the transcript as needed.

This was a fun one in many places, interesting throughout, frustrating in similar places to where other recent Dwarkesh interviews have been frustrating. It gave me a lot of ideas, some of which might even be good.

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AGI Is Still a Decade Away

1. Andrej calls this the ‘decade of agents’ contrary to (among [...]

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Outline:

(00:58 ) AGI Is Still a Decade Away

(12:13 ) LLM Cognitive Deficits

(15:31 ) RL Is Terrible

(17:24 ) How Do Humans Learn?

(24:17 ) AGI Will Blend Into 2% GDP Growth

(29:28 ) ASI

(37:38 ) Evolution of Intelligence and Culture

(38:57 ) Why Self Driving Took So Long

(42:06 ) Future Of Education

(48:27 ) Reactions

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First published:

October 21st, 2025

Source:

https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/ZBoJaebKFEzxuhNGZ/on-dwarkesh-patel-s-podcast-with-andrej-karpathy

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Narrated by TYPE III AUDIO.

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