'The Interview': Rutger Bregman Wants to Save Elites From Their Wasted Lives
Update: 2025-05-17
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David seems quite baffled throughout much of this interview. As I listened to him explain to Rutger what he contributed in his spare time, it was very obvious that he doesn't do anything that may push him even a little outside his comfort zone---like the vast majority of people! This is the age of selfishness, and self-centeredness. Most people would kill to hang on to their comfort zone. Admiration for Rutger Bregman, for speaking frankly, about a real issue in this time for Humanity.