#18 - Jesse Pollak

#18 - Jesse Pollak

Update: 2025-07-16
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This podcast explores Base, a coinless Ethereum layer-2 blockchain designed to improve scalability and reduce transaction costs. The discussion covers its technical architecture, including optimistic rollups and the OP stack, highlighting its focus on solving the problem of high transaction fees and limited scalability on Ethereum. Base's use cases in the social media and creator economy are examined, along with its potential for integrating real-world assets like equities onto the blockchain. The podcast also features a detailed look at Base Batches, a program supporting developers, and Network School, an educational initiative focused on empowering builders and fostering the growth of on-chain economies and network states. Finally, advice is offered to young builders entering the space, emphasizing the importance of fundamental skills, considering alternative jurisdictions, and understanding the roles of builders versus founders.

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00:00:00
Introduction to Base and Philosophical Underpinnings

The podcast introduces Base, a coinless Ethereum layer-2 blockchain, and discusses the intersection of libertarian and progressive philosophies in the context of internet community building. It highlights Base's focus on building a great product for developers and creators without relying on a native token.

00:00:46
Base's Technical Architecture and Problem Solving

This section delves into Base's technical aspects, including optimistic rollups, decentralization strategies, and the OP stack. It explains how Base addresses high transaction costs and limited scalability on Ethereum while maintaining security and decentralization.

00:17:04
Base Use Cases, Future Potential, and On-Chain Finance

The podcast explores Base's applications, particularly in social media and the creator economy. It discusses the limitations of blockchain technology and how Base addresses block space constraints, comparing it to the early internet. The integration of real-world assets, specifically equities, onto Base and its implications for the financial system are also discussed.

00:32:34
Base Batches, Network School, and Building the On-Chain Economy

This section details Base Batches, a program supporting builders, and its collaboration with Network School. It explores Network School's mission to empower "dark talent" and its focus on building startup societies and network states. The role of crypto in establishing property rights and monetary policy within internet-first societies is also discussed.

00:47:57
Advice for Young Builders and Conclusion

The podcast concludes with advice for young builders, emphasizing the importance of learning statistics and computer science, considering alternative jurisdictions for building, and understanding the roles of builders versus founders.

Keywords

Optimistic Rollup


A layer-2 scaling solution for Ethereum processing transactions off-chain and submitting them in batches.

Ethereum Layer-2


A secondary network on Ethereum improving scalability and reducing transaction costs.

Coinless Blockchain


A blockchain without its own native cryptocurrency, like Base.

Network State


A decentralized autonomous organization (DAO) governing itself through on-chain mechanisms.

On-Chain Economy


An economy where transactions and governance are managed directly on a blockchain.

Base Batches


A Base program supporting builders and creators.

Network School


An educational initiative fostering innovation in the tech space.

Decentralized Applications (dApps)


Applications built on a decentralized network like Base.

Scalability


The ability of a blockchain to handle a large number of transactions.

Q&A

  • What is the primary problem Base was designed to solve?

    Base aims to accelerate global crypto adoption by making Coinbase a truly on-chain company and providing a scalable, low-cost platform for building decentralized applications on Ethereum, overcoming high transaction fees and slow speeds.

  • How does Base's technical architecture ensure decentralization and security?

    Base uses optimistic rollups and the OP stack, leveraging Ethereum's security while offering scalability. Multiple validation mechanisms minimize single points of failure.

  • What are some unique use cases for Base?

    Base excels in the social and creator economy, hosting on-chain social networks. Its low costs make it attractive for everyday applications.

  • How does Base envision the future of on-chain finance?

    Base aims to integrate real-world assets onto the blockchain, creating a unified market for traditional and crypto assets.

  • What advice would you give to young builders?

    Focus on learning statistics and computer science, consider building outside the US, and understand the roles of builders versus founders.

Show Notes

Jesse Pollak leads Coinbase Base, which enables 1 cent transactions on Ethereum. We discuss the motivation behind Base, monetization for creators & companies, local stablecoins, network states, and the Base Batches session at Network School. If you're building on Base, apply to Network School at https://ns.com.

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