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#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars

#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars

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This podcast features an interview with a former F-16 pilot who transitioned to commercial spaceflight. The interview covers his extensive Air Force career, including over 20 years of service, combat flight hours, command roles, graduation from the USAF Weapons School, and time with the Thunderbirds. He details his participation in the Inspiration4 mission, the first all-civilian orbital spaceflight, and the Polaris Dawn mission, which included the first commercial spacewalk. The interview delves into the challenges and rewards of both military and commercial spaceflight, including the intense training, the emotional toll of combat, and the profound "overview effect" experienced in space. He discusses his personal journey of faith, highlighting a near-death experience as a pivotal moment. The interview also touches upon his unconventional academic path, his struggles with motion sickness, and his experiences at various Air Force bases, including OSAN in Korea and Aviano in Italy. The podcast concludes with reflections on the future of space exploration and the importance of inspiring future generations.

Outlines

00:01:04
Early Life, Air Force Career, and Thunderbird Experience

Details Scott's upbringing, Air Force career (20+ years, combat flight hours, command roles), USAF Weapons School graduation, and time with the Thunderbirds.

00:02:13
Inspiration4 and Polaris Dawn Missions

Focuses on Scott's roles in Inspiration4 (first all-civilian spaceflight) and Polaris Dawn (including the first commercial spacewalk), highlighting his accomplishments and the missions' significance.

00:04:31
Moon Landing, Space Exploration's Future, and Commercial Spaceflight

Discusses the moon landing, reasons for the lack of return trips, the shift towards commercial space exploration, and future lunar and Martian missions.

00:18:27
Call Sign "Kid" and J-TAC Missions

Explains the origin of Scott's call sign and details his experiences conducting close air support (CAS) missions with Joint Terminal Attack Controllers (J-TACs).

00:22:46
Childhood, Education, ROTC, and Initial Challenges

Discusses Scott's childhood, unconventional academic path (Outdoor Education degree), impulsive decision to join ROTC despite fears, and early challenges.

00:36:38
Pilot Training and Overcoming Obstacles

Details Scott's pilot training, struggles with motion sickness and academics, and his perseverance to become a fighter pilot.

01:04:40
Flight Experiences and Aircraft Types

Covers Scott's experiences flying various aircraft (T-37, T-38, F-16), highlighting differences in speed and handling, and mentions his time with the Thunderbirds.

01:08:06
Military Mission Types and Acronyms Explained

Explains military acronyms like OCA and DCA, clarifying different types of air missions.

01:18:44
Early F-16 Training, Command, and Korean Experience

Recounts initial F-16 training, transition to instructor pilot, joining a combat unit, squadron camaraderie, and time in Korea.

01:24:26
Pilot Watches, Break, Meeting His Wife, and Life in Italy

Briefly discusses pilot watches before a commercial break, then shares the story of meeting his wife in Korea, their relationship, and life at Aviano Air Base in Italy.

01:35:21
Deployments and Missions from Italy

Discusses deployments from Aviano, including Operation Northern Watch, challenges of maintaining readiness, and a long flight from Alaska to Korea.

01:41:17
Combat Missions in Afghanistan and Emotional Toll

Describes his first combat mission in Afghanistan, planning process, emotional impact, specific incidents, and challenges of making life-or-death decisions. Includes discussion of the emotional weight of combat and its lasting impact.

02:19:17
Finding Faith and Spiritual Growth

Shares his personal journey of faith, emphasizing a near-death experience involving his daughter as a pivotal moment.

02:28:00
Space Travel, Overview Effect, and Philosophical Reflections

Describes his space experience, the "overview effect," and how it impacted his perspective on life, faith, and the planet.

02:34:59
Good vs. Evil, Future Outlook, and Concluding Thoughts

Concludes by discussing the struggle between good and evil, staying true to values, and his ongoing journey of faith.

02:52:13
From Fighter Pilot to Inspiration4

Discusses his career transition to Inspiration4, the first all-civilian mission to space, collaboration with Jared Isaacman, and fundraising for St. Jude.

03:07:19
The Polaris Program and its Ambitions

Introduces the Polaris program, a three-part developmental spaceflight program aiming to address challenges in space travel.

03:12:57
Polaris Dawn Training, Challenges, and Pivotal Moments

Details the rigorous three-year training process for Polaris Dawn, emphasizing teamwork and overcoming personal challenges.

03:29:55
Polaris Dawn Spacewalk: A Historic First

Provides a detailed account of the first commercial spacewalk, describing technical challenges, emotional experience, and significance.

03:44:54
Life in Orbit, Experiments, and Emotional Impact

Shares insights into daily life in orbit, including sleep, food, scientific experiments, and the emotional impact of seeing Earth from space.

04:07:56
Return to Earth, Re-entry, and Future of Space Travel

Describes the re-entry process, physical challenges of returning to Earth, and an optimistic outlook on the future of commercial space travel.

Keywords

Astronaut


An individual trained to pilot and operate spacecraft; undergoes rigorous physical and mental training, often involving military experience.

Inspiration4


The world's first all-civilian orbital spaceflight, a significant milestone in commercial space travel.

Polaris Dawn


A SpaceX mission featuring the first commercial spacewalk, representing a significant advancement in private space exploration.

USAF Weapons School


An elite pilot training program of the United States Air Force, providing advanced training in combat tactics.

Close Air Support (CAS)


Air support provided to ground troops in close proximity to the battlefield.

F-16 Pilot


A pilot trained to fly the F-16 Fighting Falcon, a multirole combat aircraft.

Combat Missions


Military operations involving direct engagement with enemy forces.

Overview Effect


A cognitive shift in awareness reported by astronauts viewing Earth from space.

Commercial Spacewalk


The first privately funded and executed spacewalk, demonstrating advancements in commercial space technology.

SpaceX


A private aerospace manufacturer and space transportation services company.

Q&A

  • What were the biggest challenges you faced during your Air Force career and how did you overcome them?

    Motion sickness and academics; overcome through determination and finding effective learning styles.

  • What is the future of commercial space exploration, and what role do you see private companies playing?

    Rapid advancement with private companies like SpaceX leading the way; crucial role in returning to the moon, reaching Mars, and increasing space accessibility.

  • What is the significance of the Inspiration4 and Polaris Dawn missions?

    Inspiration4 was the first all-civilian orbital mission; Polaris Dawn went further than Apollo and included the first commercial spacewalk.

  • Can you describe your experience conducting close air support missions?

    Highlights of his career, involving close coordination with ground troops and high stakes.

  • What advice would you give to aspiring astronauts or pilots?

    Persevere through challenges, find a learning style that works, and develop unwavering determination.

  • What was the most challenging aspect of your F-16 pilot training?

    Intense pressure, high stakes, and constant need to perform at the highest level.

  • How did your experience in Korea differ from your time in Italy?

    Korea was high-pressure and focused on constant readiness; Italy offered more stability but involved frequent deployments.

  • Can you describe the emotional impact of your first combat mission?

    Intense adrenaline, responsibility, moral weight, and lasting emotional processing.

  • How did your near-death experience with your daughter impact your faith?

    Solidified his belief in divine intervention and strengthened his commitment to his faith.

  • What is the "overview effect," and how did it affect you?

    A cognitive shift experienced by astronauts; fostered a sense of insignificance and prompted reflection on life's purpose.

Show Notes

Scott “Kidd” Poteet is a retired U.S. Air Force lieutenant colonel and highly experienced pilot who served more than two decades in the military. Over the course of his Air Force career, he flew F-16s in multiple combat deployments and held roles in leadership and training, earning a reputation for his strong work ethic and focus on mission excellence. Poteet’s dedication to both teamwork and mentorship helped guide the next generation of pilots, showcasing his commitment to service and the advancement of aerospace.

Since retiring from active duty, Poteet has remained deeply involved in pioneering space initiatives and operational leadership. He served as the Mission Director for Inspiration4—SpaceX’s first all-civilian orbital mission—and continues his journey into human spaceflight as a pilot for the Polaris Dawn mission, part of the groundbreaking Polaris Program. Through these endeavors, he exemplifies a passion for pushing the boundaries of exploration and technology, reflecting both his military heritage and forward-thinking vision for space travel.


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#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars

#185 Scott "Kidd" Poteet - SpaceX Polaris Dawn Astronaut on Spacewalk, Moon Landing and Mars

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