#212: Marketing Leadership | Lessons for First-Time Marketing Leaders with Michael Cole, SVP of Everflow
Description
In this episode, Dave sits down with Michael Cole, SVP of Marketing at Everflow, a partner marketing platform that helps companies manage referral and affiliate programs. Michael discusses his journey from being Everflow’s first marketing hire to leading a marketing team of 16, and shares strategies for building a marketing function from the ground up.
Dave and Michael cover:
- How Everflow turns happy customers into referral partners
- What it’s like to be a first-time marketing leader
- Building a marketing function from scratch
Timestamps
- (00:00 ) - - Introduction to Michael
- (05:58 ) - - Michael’s journey to marketing leadership
- (10:45 ) - - Understanding company growth before developing your strategy
- (13:49 ) - - Turning happy customers into referrals
- (17:54 ) - - Scaling a successful team
- (24:52 ) - - Referrals vs. paid ads
- (29:09 ) - - Organic vs. paid strategies
- (31:36 ) - - Growing organically and spreading through word-of-mouth
- (33:22 ) - - Finding complementary business partnerships
- (39:35 ) - - Enhancing content creation
- (42:35 ) - - Delegation and accountability in a strong team
- (43:34 ) - - Strategizing for growth
- (46:44 ) - - Closing remarks
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