564 Kathleen Kennedy GONE & Best/Worst Fantasy Movies (with Sanspants Radio)
Digest
This podcast episode covers a range of topics, starting with the passing of Gene Hackman and Michelle Trachtenberg. It then delves into Kathleen Kennedy's departure from Lucasfilm, speculating on potential replacements like John Favreau, Dave Filoni, and Kevin Feige. Trailers for "Andor" season 2 and "Shrek 5" are reviewed, followed by a discussion on Warner Brothers closing three gaming studios. James Gunn and Peter Safran's plans for the DCU are detailed, outlining their ambitious release schedule. The delay of "The Hunt for Gollum" leads to a broader conversation about fantasy franchises, featuring guests from Sands Pants Radio. The hosts discuss their new board game, Jaren's Outpost (Kickstarter launch March 18th), and share their favorite fantasy films (including the recent Dungeons & Dragons movie). They also share their current reading and viewing choices (Huckleberry Finn, Severance, Mythic Quest), discuss their contrasting views on *Sunshine*, and explore their personal strengths, weaknesses, work habits, and morning routines. Listener questions prompt discussions about the careers of Star Wars actors and the hosts' humorous take on the title of *Chaos Walking*. The episode concludes with listener reviews and a call to action.
Outlines

Industry News and Reflections
The podcast begins with news of Gene Hackman and Michelle Trachtenberg's passing, transitions to Kathleen Kennedy leaving Lucasfilm and speculation about her replacement, and then covers Warner Brothers closing gaming studios.

Film and Television Trailers and Reviews
Reviews of trailers for "Andor" season 2 and "Shrek 5," highlighting key aspects and fan reactions.

DCU and Fantasy Franchise Updates
Details James Gunn and Peter Safran's plans for the DCU, including the release schedule, and discusses the delay of "The Hunt for Gollum" and the state of fantasy film franchises.

Jaren's Outpost Board Game and Fantasy Film Favorites
Focuses on the hosts' new board game, Jaren's Outpost (Kickstarter launch March 18th), its unique betrayal mechanics, and a discussion of favorite fantasy films, including the recent Dungeons & Dragons movie, Highlander, Labyrinth, and Willow.

Current Entertainment and Personal Preferences
The hosts share their current reading and viewing choices (Huckleberry Finn, Severance, Mythic Quest) and discuss their contrasting views on the movie *Sunshine*.

Personal Strengths, Weaknesses, and Work Habits
A listener question sparks a discussion about inherent strengths and weaknesses, work habits, and morning personalities, revealing contrasting approaches to productivity and work-life balance.

Post-Star Wars Careers and Listener Feedback
Discussion on the post-Star Wars careers of the main trilogy actors, followed by a humorous discussion about the title of *Chaos Walking* and positive listener reviews.
Keywords
Kathleen Kennedy
Long-time president of Lucasfilm; her departure sparks discussion about the future of Star Wars.
DCU
The DC Extended Universe; the podcast discusses James Gunn and Peter Safran's plans for its future.
The Hunt for Gollum
An upcoming Lord of the Rings film; its delay and the overall state of Lord of the Rings adaptations are discussed.
James Gunn
Co-CEO of DC Studios, shaping the future of the DCU.
Jaren's Outpost
A board game based on a Dungeons & Dragons campaign, launching on Kickstarter March 18th.
Kickstarter
Crowdfunding platform used to launch Jaren's Outpost.
Dungeons & Dragons
Tabletop role-playing game; the podcast references a D&D campaign and the recent D&D movie.
Severance (TV Show)
Apple TV+ series exploring themes of work-life balance.
Mythic Quest (TV Show)
Apple TV+ comedy series satirizing the video game industry.
Workaholism
A compulsive need to work excessively.
Q&A
Who are the potential replacements for Kathleen Kennedy at Lucasfilm?
Potential replacements include John Favreau, Dave Filoni, and Kevin Feige, each with unique strengths and weaknesses.
What are James Gunn and Peter Safran's plans for the future of the DCU?
They plan to release two live-action films and one animated film per year, along with two live-action and two animated series.
Why were three Warner Brothers gaming studios closed?
The closures were attributed to disappointing 2024 performance and a refocusing on core IPs.
What is the significance of the delay of "The Hunt for Gollum"?
It highlights the challenges in continuing established franchises and balancing fan expectations with creative vision.
What is Jaren's Outpost board game's unique feature?
Its core mechanic revolves around player betrayal.
What are the hosts' thoughts on the recent Dungeons & Dragons movie?
They enjoyed it, finding it fun and a refreshing change from other recent fantasy films.
What is the Kickstarter launch date for Jaren's Outpost?
March 18th.
What other shows and books are the hosts currently enjoying?
Severance, Mythic Quest, and Huckleberry Finn.
What are some common challenges faced by actors after achieving significant success in a franchise like *Star Wars*?
Typecasting is a major hurdle.
How do the hosts' contrasting personalities and work habits affect their productivity?
One host's perfectionism and workaholism may lead to burnout, while the other's flexible schedule allows for better work-life balance.
Show Notes
You haven't seen Gollum anywhere, have you? Joining us in our search this week are Jackson Baly and Joel Zammit from Sanspants Radio to chat board games, lord of the rings and more fantasy movies! We've also got your regular serving of piping hot news including Kathleen Kennedy potentially leaving Star Wars, Andor season two's trailer, the Shrek 5 teaser, more annoying Warner Bros cancelletions including the Wonder Woman game, a whole lot of other DC stuff on the horizon and the return of MCU special presentations. Thanks for listening!
Check out the kickstarter for Jarren’s Outpost right here: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/dndnerds/jarrens-outpost
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00:00 The Start
02:56 Gene Hackman Family Tragedy
05:44 Michelle Trachtenberg RIP
07:36 Kathleen Kennedy Leaving Star Wars (maybe)
22:39 Andor Season 2 Trailer
25:24 Shrek 5 Teaser Trailer
27:46 Wonder Woman Game Cancelled
30:56 DCU Future & Entire Line-Up
43:01 Mickey 17 Might Bomb
44:09 MCU Punisher Special Presentation
44:56 Search for Gollum Movie Update
55:21 Jarren’s Outpost Board Game Kickstarter
01:02:54 Best & Worst Fantasy Movies
01:23:40 What We Reading, What We Gonna Read
01:37:18 Letters, It’s Time For Letters
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