566 The Electric State & Black Bag
Digest
This podcast episode covers a wide range of movie and comic news and reviews. The hosts begin by previewing discussions on *John Wick 5* (with uncertainty about Keanu Reeves' return), *Spider-Man 4* (speculating on Sadie Sink's role), and *Avatar 3* (analyzing James Cameron's wife's emotional reaction). They then humorously review trailers for the *F1* movie, *Black Mirror* Season 7 (discussing potential multiverse elements), and the live-action *Lilo & Stitch*. The *Starship Troopers* reboot is discussed, focusing on its potential to adapt the source material's political themes. The episode also delves into the disappointing box office performance of *Mickey 17*, attributing its struggles to various factors. A detailed review and plot summary of *The Electric State* follows, highlighting its visual style and questioning its high budget. The discussion shifts to mid-budget films, mentioning *Black Bag* and its director's concerns about the film's impact on the industry. Finally, the hosts review *The Banshees of Inisherin*, focusing on its dialogue-driven nature and performances. The episode concludes with listener emails covering comic book recommendations, a discussion of the TV show *The Rookie*, and a humorous debate about a proposed diner name.
Outlines

Movie & Comic News Roundup
Introduction to the episode, covering news on *John Wick 5*, *Spider-Man 4*, *Avatar 3*, and other trailers.

*John Wick 5* and Spin-offs
Discussion on the announcement of *John Wick 5* and potential spin-offs, including a video game. Uncertainty remains about Keanu Reeves' return.

*Spider-Man 4* Casting Speculation
Analysis of potential casting choices for *Spider-Man 4*, focusing on Sadie Sink's rumored role and speculation about her character. Debate on the significance of social media follower counts in casting.

*Avatar 3* Reaction & Other News
Discussion of James Cameron's wife's reaction to *Avatar 3*, followed by reviews of the *F1* movie trailer, *Black Mirror* Season 7 trailer, and the *Lilo & Stitch* live-action trailer.

*Starship Troopers* Reboot & *Mickey 17*'s Failure
Discussion of the upcoming *Starship Troopers* reboot and the disappointing box office performance of *Mickey 17*, attributing its struggles to various factors.

*The Electric State* Review
A detailed review and plot summary of *The Electric State*, discussing its plot, characters, visual style, and derivative nature.

Mid-Budget Film Discussion & *Black Bag*
Discussion of mid-budget films, specifically mentioning *Black Bag* and its director's concerns about its potential impact on the industry.

*The Banshees of Inisherin* Review
Review of "The Banshees of Inisherin," focusing on its plot, performances, and dialogue-driven nature.

Listener Emails & Q&A
The hosts answer listener emails on comic book recommendations, the TV show *The Rookie*, and a humorous debate about a proposed diner name.
Keywords
John Wick 5
The fifth installment in the John Wick action franchise.
Spider-Man 4
The fourth film in the Tom Holland Spider-Man series.
Avatar 3
The third film in the Avatar franchise.
Black Mirror Season 7
The seventh season of the anthology series Black Mirror.
F1 Movie
Upcoming Formula 1 racing movie starring Brad Pitt.
Mickey 17
Science fiction film directed by Bong Joon-ho, starring Robert Pattinson.
The Electric State
Netflix sci-fi film starring Millie Bobby Brown and Chris Pratt.
Black Bag
Mid-budget film discussed for its potential impact on the industry.
The Banshees of Inisherin
2022 Irish black comedy-drama film.
The Rookie (TV Show)
American police procedural drama television series.
Q&A
What are the key plot points discussed for the upcoming *Spider-Man 4*?
Potential casting of Sadie Sink and a possible multiverse element.
What is the significance of James Cameron's wife's reaction to *Avatar 3*?
Her emotional response is a point of discussion, with speculation on its meaning.
How do the hosts analyze the *F1* movie trailer?
They offer a humorous, speculative review, imagining potential plot twists.
What are the main themes discussed in the *Black Mirror* Season 7 trailer analysis?
Potential interconnectedness of episodes and a possible multiverse element.
What is the central debate surrounding the *Starship Troopers* reboot?
Whether it will faithfully adapt the source material's political satire.
What are the main reasons for *Mickey 17*'s box office failure?
A potentially superior alternate cut, general audience dissatisfaction, and high budget.
What is the overall tone and style of *The Electric State*?
Fast-paced, action-adventure with a nostalgic '90s aesthetic, but potentially derivative.
What are the implications of *Black Bag*'s potential underperformance?
Studios might avoid making similar mid-budget films.
What is the central conflict in *The Electric State*?
Millie Bobby Brown's character seeks to find her brother.
What is the podcast's overall assessment of *The Electric State*?
"Okay," but questions the justification for its high budget.
Show Notes
Movies are back and we don't mind telling you! Well not box office wise. Everything is bombing including Micky 17, Captain America: Brave New Bird and Black Bag which we talk about this week. Plus we discuss Netflix and the Russo Brothers latest 300 million dollar okay movie, The Electric State. And of course we get into the news of the week including John Wick 5, Sadie Sink joining Spider-Man 4, the first reaction to Avatar 3, trailers for F1, Black Mirror Season 7 and Lilo & Stitch and the importance of Superman 2025 to Warner Brothers/Discovery. Thanks for listening
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00:00 The Start
03:41 Nick Mason Does a Joke?
04:19 Future of John Wick Universe
06:53 Sadie Sink Cast in Spider-Man 4
15:05 Big Reactions to Avatar 3
18:06 F1 Trailer
23:33 Black Mirror S7 Trailer
28:09 Lilo & Stitch Trailer
30:28 Starship Troopers Reboot
35:45 All You Need Is Kill
36:32 Dire Stuff at Warner Bros
40:54 The Electric State Review
59:25 Electric State Spoiler Segment
01:11:42 What We Reading, What We Gonna Read (Black Bag)
01:21:48 Letters, It's Time For Letters
01:38:57 This Point Right Here
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