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AI-Powered Filmmaking with Waymark's Stephen Parker and Josh Rubin

AI-Powered Filmmaking with Waymark's Stephen Parker and Josh Rubin

Update: 2023-09-14


In this episode, Nathan sits down with Stephen Parker and Josh Rubin of Waymark, and creators of The Frost, an AI-powered 12 minute short film. In this episode, we get a behind the scenes look at their creative process, the prompting and creative techniques they used to generate and animate the DALL-E results, and an overview of the current state of AI art. If you're looking for an ERP platform, check out our sponsor, NetSuite:

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(00:00 ) Episode Preview

(00:01:00 ) Nathan’s introduction for Stephen Parker and Josh Rubin

(00:05:01 ) - The Frost is a 12-minute short film created using DALL-E 2 images.

(00:07:06 ) - The Frost started as an experiment to see if a narrative film could be created completely from AI imagery.

(00:10:38 ) - Parker started generating images with DALL-E 2 when he got access to the early preview.

(00:12:26 ) - Prompt technique to get consistent images by providing context about a hypothetical film.

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(00:19:37 ) - Compositional continuity, like shot-reverse shot, was hard to achieve through prompting.

(00:22:13 )- Rubin would request specific shots and the team would prompt DALL-E 2 to create them

(00:32:25 ) - Getting consistent facial features for characters was very difficult.

(00:39:03 ) - The storytelling helped cover inconsistencies that viewers might not notice.

(00:40:15 ) - Working with the images DALL-E provides

(00:44:53 ) Inpainting and compositing to refine DALL-E Images

(00:50:43 ) - The AI art is limited by what exists in the training data.

(01:02:05 )- Animating the human characters was challenging because of missing or incorrect appendages.

(01:07:36 ) - The team had to find creative ways to convey emotion through the limited animation.

01:02:24 - Animating subtle human movement and emotion is still very difficult.

(01:06:35 ) - A romantic comedy would be much harder to produce with current AI capabilities.

(01:12:17 ) - For Frost 2 they are using text-to-video models like RunwayML.

(01:15:43 ) - AI voicing advancements applied to filmmaking

(01:19:27 ) - The future of AI in Hollywood and filmmaking: quality narratives still require human vision

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