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American Psycho with Guinevere Turner

American Psycho with Guinevere Turner

Update: 2025-04-11
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This podcast episode celebrates the 25th anniversary of American Psycho with co-writer Gwynnevere Turner. It details the film's initially poor reception and its subsequent rise to cult classic status, attributing this to factors like the internet, Christian Bale's fame, and the film's memeability. The conversation delves into the creative decisions behind the film's adaptation, including the omission of Patrick Bateman's backstory, the subversive use of voiceover, and the conscious choice to portray Bateman as a "black hole" of violence. The film's commentary on toxic masculinity, predatory capitalism, and the lack of consequences for powerful men is explored. Specific details like the business card scene and clothing choices are analyzed, highlighting Bateman's attempts to mimic human behavior learned from pop culture. Turner discusses the minimal studio interference, the original screenplay, and the decision for a definitive ending. The episode concludes with a discussion of the upcoming reimagining of American Psycho and Turner's future projects.

Outlines

00:00:00
American Psycho's Legacy and Creative Process

This introductory chapter introduces the podcast's topic: the 25th anniversary of American Psycho and its co-writer Gwynnevere Turner as a guest. It also covers the film's unexpected success and its cultural impact, touching upon its initial poor reception and subsequent rise to cult status.

00:03:29
The Making of American Psycho: Adaptation and Creative Choices

This section details the creative choices made during the film's adaptation, including omitting Patrick Bateman's backstory, the subversive use of voiceover, and the minimal studio interference. It also discusses the portrayal of Patrick Bateman and the decision to not explain his violence.

00:18:17
Patrick Bateman's Character and the Film's Themes

This chapter focuses on the portrayal of Patrick Bateman as an alien trying to fit in, analyzing specific details like the business card scene and clothing choices. It explores the film's commentary on toxic masculinity, predatory capitalism, and the lack of consequences for powerful men.

00:30:49
The Film's Ending, Reimagining, and Future Projects

This section discusses the film's ending, dispelling ambiguity, and addresses the upcoming reimagining directed by Luca Guadagnino. It also includes Gwynnevere Turner's reflections on her career and future projects.

00:52:58
American Psycho's Enduring Relevance and Cultural Impact

This chapter explores American Psycho's enduring relevance, focusing on its commentary on toxic masculinity and the lack of consequences for powerful men. It also discusses the film's memeability and its unexpected cult status.

01:03:20
Gwynnevere Turner's Reflections and Future Work

This concluding chapter features Gwynnevere Turner discussing her future projects, including a new film with Mary Harron and a rom-com, and reflecting on her memoir and return to screenwriting.

Keywords

Toxic Masculinity


Harmful aspects of traditional masculine norms, critiqued in American Psycho through Patrick Bateman.

Cult Classic


A film initially unsuccessful but later gaining devoted following and cultural significance.

Predatory Capitalism


Economic system characterized by exploitation and profit at any cost, symbolized by Patrick Bateman.

Memeable


Content easily shared and adapted into internet memes; a factor in American Psycho's popularity.

Voiceover


Subversive narration technique used in American Psycho to highlight Bateman's shallowness.

American Psycho


The 1990s film adaptation of Bret Easton Ellis's novel, subject of the podcast.

Mary Harron


Director of the original American Psycho film.

Christian Bale


Actor who played Patrick Bateman in the film.

Reimagining (Film)


A new adaptation of existing material, referring to the upcoming American Psycho remake.

Bret Easton Ellis


Author of the novel American Psycho.

Q&A

  • What was the initial reception of American Psycho, and how did it evolve over time to become a cult classic?

    Initially mixed/negative, its cult status grew due to Bale's fame, internet memes, and its commentary on toxic masculinity.

  • Why did you and Mary Harron choose to portray Patrick Bateman as an alien learning to be human?

    This avoided explaining his violence, highlighting his shallow mimicry of human behavior and alienation.

  • How did the decision to not include a backstory for Patrick Bateman affect the film's impact?

    Omitting the backstory made him more relatable and terrifying, suggesting anyone could be capable of such violence.

  • What are your thoughts on the upcoming reimagining of American Psycho?

    Turner expresses some nervousness but openness to a new interpretation and acknowledges the potential for a large audience.

  • What is the significance of the music choices in American Psycho?

    The music choices highlight Patrick's shallow understanding of culture, used as a performance of normalcy.

Show Notes

Today on Script Apart – one of cinema’s great monster movies. The terrifying creature at this movie’s core, though, didn’t have trailing tentacles, bloodshot eyes or reptilian skin. Instead of sharp teeth, it wore a sharp suit – Valentino pinstripe, perfectly pressed. This monster owned a gleaming Rolex, lived in an elegant condo and smiled politely through slap-up dinners with his fellow Wall Street sleazes. At night, he stalked the streets of New York, maiming sex workers and murdering the homeless, to a soundtrack of Huey Lewis and the News. And twenty-five years on, he’s arguably more fearsome than ever in his relevance to our own world. 


Yes, joining Al Horner for a metaphorical reservation at Dorsia this week is author, actress and screenwriter Guinevere Turner, who co-wrote American Psycho. Guinevere teamed up with someone who would become a long-time collaborator, director Mary Harron, to adapt Bret Easton Ellis’ controversial novel about a deranged investment banker named Patrick Bateman (Christian Bale).


In the spoiler conversation you’re about to hear, Guinevere tells me about the parts of herself she perhaps threaded into her and Mary's version of the story, either consciously or subconsciously – as revealed in her 2023 memoir, When The World Didn’t End, she grew up in a cult that promised followers they’d be whisked off in a spaceship to Venus, and there’s cult-like framing of money and materialism in American Psycho that perhaps was no accident. We get into her and Mary’s treatment of Patrick as an “alien who’s crash-landed to Earth,” learning to fit in through the pop culture he engages in. You’ll also hear about Bret Easton Ellis’s version of the film that ended with Patrick Bateman singing a musical tribute to New York, and what Guinevere’s take is on the upcoming remake, reported to be directed by Luca Guadagnino. 


For more from Guinevere, whose other work includes The L Word, Go Fish, The Notorious Bettie Page and 2018’s Charlie Says, pick up When The World Didn’t End, which is a great read – and head to our Patreon page! We’re running an exclusive series on our Patreon called One Writing Tip, in which great writers share one piece of advice they swear by that they think all emerging writers should know. And for more from us at Script Apart, hit subscribe if you haven’t already.


Script Apart is hosted by Al Horner and produced by Kamil Dymek. Follow us on Instagram, or email us on thescriptapartpodcast@gmail.com.


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American Psycho with Guinevere Turner

American Psycho with Guinevere Turner