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Bonus: Hypermobility Q&A with Bendy Bodies Dr. Linda Bluestein

Bonus: Hypermobility Q&A with Bendy Bodies Dr. Linda Bluestein

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This podcast episode features Dr. Linda Bluestine, an expert on hypermobility spectrum disorder (HSD) and hypermobile Ehlers-Danlos syndrome (hEDS), addressing listener questions. The discussion covers diagnostic challenges with the Beighton score versus the five-point questionnaire, explaining the 2017 hEDS diagnostic criteria and the need for a revised framework. Finding appropriate healthcare providers experienced in hypermobility, chronic pain, or autonomic dysfunction is emphasized, along with strategies for assessing provider knowledge of dysautonomia and POTS. The episode debunks the link between MTHFR gene mutations and hEDS, explores the potential relationship between hEDS and conditions like celiac disease and lipoedema, and discusses medication choices for hEDS/HSD symptoms, including LDN, ketorolac, and cromolyn sodium. Specific cases are discussed, such as a young patient with new-onset supraventricular tachycardia (SVT) and a mother with EDS, highlighting the importance of cardiologist referral and considering the increased risk of POTS in patients with EDS.

Outlines

00:00:00
Introduction and Listener Questions on hEDS and HSD

The episode introduces Dr. Linda Bluestine, an expert on hypermobility spectrum disorder and hypermobile Ehlers-Danlos syndrome, who will answer listener questions regarding diagnosis and treatment.

00:00:29
Diagnosing hEDS: Beighton Score vs. Five-Point Questionnaire

Discussion on the limitations of the Beighton score for diagnosing hEDS and the advantages of the five-point questionnaire, particularly in adults. Different types of joint hypermobility are explained.

00:04:53
2017 hEDS Diagnostic Criteria and Challenges

Details the 2017 international diagnostic criteria for hEDS, highlighting the subjective nature of some criteria and the need for a revised framework (Road to 2026). Red flags indicating the need for genetic testing are discussed.

00:10:32
Finding the Right Healthcare Provider for hEDS/HSD

Advice on finding healthcare providers experienced in hypermobility, chronic pain, or autonomic dysfunction. Importance of patient preparation and the use of telemedicine are discussed.

00:16:34
hEDS, SVT, and POTS

A listener question about a young patient with new-onset supraventricular tachycardia (SVT) and a mother with EDS. The discussion differentiates SVT from sinus tachycardia and highlights the importance of cardiologist referral, while also considering the increased risk of POTS in patients with EDS.

00:22:58
Assessing Provider Knowledge of Dysautonomia

Strategies for respectfully assessing a doctor's knowledge of dysautonomia and POTS, emphasizing a collaborative approach.

00:24:25
MTHFR Gene and Hypermobility

Discussion on the lack of scientific evidence linking MTHFR gene mutations to hEDS, despite a high prevalence of MTHFR polymorphisms in patients with hypermobility. A balanced approach to addressing patient concerns is recommended.

00:31:20
Celiac Disease and EDS

Explores the potential relationship between EDS and celiac disease, focusing on overlapping symptoms and the possibility of immune system dysregulation. The value of elimination diets is discussed.

00:38:13
Lipoedema and its Relationship to Hypermobility

Discussion on lipoedema, its symptoms, and its overlap with hypermobility disorders. The role of primary care providers in recognizing and managing lipoedema is highlighted.

00:42:52
Medication Choices for hEDS/HSD Symptoms

Dr. Bluestine discusses her approach to medication selection for hEDS/HSD, focusing on personalized care and the use of LDN, ketorolac, and cromolyn sodium. The importance of low-dose starting points and careful titration is emphasized.

Keywords

Hypermobile Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome (hEDS)


A type of Ehlers-Danlos syndrome characterized by generalized joint hypermobility, chronic pain, and other systemic symptoms. Diagnosis is clinical, based on specific criteria.

Hypermobility Spectrum Disorder (HSD)


A broader term encompassing various conditions involving excessive joint flexibility. HSD may or may not meet criteria for a specific EDS subtype.

Beighton Score


A clinical scoring system used to assess generalized joint hypermobility. Has limitations, including age and gender dependency, and doesn't fully capture hypermobility in all joints.

Five-Point Questionnaire


A quick screening tool assessing historical signs of joint hypermobility, particularly useful in adults where the Beighton score may be less reliable.

Postural Orthostatic Tachycardia Syndrome (POTS)


A form of dysautonomia characterized by an excessive increase in heart rate upon standing. Frequently co-occurs with hEDS.

Supraventricular Tachycardia (SVT)


A rapid heart rhythm originating from the upper chambers of the heart. Differentiated from sinus tachycardia, which is often seen in POTS.

Dysautonomia


A dysfunction of the autonomic nervous system, often associated with hEDS and manifesting in various symptoms.

Celiac Disease


An autoimmune disorder triggered by gluten, causing damage to the small intestine. Overlapping symptoms with hEDS are noted.

Lipoedema


A chronic condition causing painful, symmetrical fat accumulation in the legs and hips. Often misdiagnosed as obesity or lymphedema; may overlap with hEDS.

Low-dose Naltrexone (LDN)


A medication used off-label to treat chronic pain, fatigue, and other symptoms in conditions like hEDS and fibromyalgia.

Q&A

  • What are the limitations of the Beighton score in diagnosing hEDS?

    The Beighton score is age and gender-dependent, assesses only a limited number of joints, is a snapshot in time, and is biased towards upper extremities. It's not sufficient alone to diagnose hEDS.

  • How can I find a healthcare provider knowledgeable about hEDS and related conditions?

    Seek providers with experience in hypermobility, chronic pain, or autonomic dysfunction. Utilize online support groups for recommendations. Prioritize compassionate and curious clinicians over specific specialties.

  • My patient has new-onset SVT; her mother has EDS. What should I do?

    Refer to a cardiologist for SVT evaluation. Given the mother's EDS history, also consider evaluating for POTS, potentially involving a neurologist experienced in dysautonomia. Building a multidisciplinary care team is often necessary.

  • How do I address patient concerns about MTHFR gene mutations and their link to hEDS?

    Validate their efforts in seeking answers. Explain that while MTHFR variants are common and affect folate metabolism, there's no proven link to hEDS. Focus on evaluating and treating the patient's symptoms.

  • Is there a relationship between EDS and celiac disease?

    While no direct link is officially recognized, many with EDS report celiac or gluten sensitivity. Overlapping gut symptoms and potential immune dysregulation may be involved. Consider testing for celiac and exploring gluten-free diets.

  • How does lipoedema relate to hypermobility and EDS?

    Lipoedema isn't an EDS subtype, but many with lipoedema also have joint hypermobility or hEDS. Shared features include joint instability, fatigue, pain, and easy bruising. PCPs should screen for comorbidities and refer appropriately.

Show Notes

In this special bonus episode, Dr. Linda Blustein (Bendy Bodies https://bit.ly/m/BendyBodies) addresses listener questions about Ehlers-Danlos syndrome (EDS) and hypermobility spectrum disorders.



00:00 – Introduction

00:59 – Can PCPs diagnose hEDS without a geneticist?

03:19 – Limitations of the Beighton Score

05:40 – 2017 hEDS criteria & upcoming revisions

10:29 – How to find a knowledgeable provider

12:52 – SVT vs POTS in a patient with EDS family history

19:53 – How to ask your provider if they’re comfortable treating dysautonomia

22:17 – MTHFR variants and hEDS

29:23 – Celiac, gluten sensitivity & EDS

31:48 – Food allergy vs sensitivity testing

34:11 – Lipoedema and hypermobility

39:00 – LDN, Ketotifen, and Cromolyn

43:41 – Medication sensitivity in EDS/POTS/MCAS patients

45:47 – Wrap up and resources



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Bonus: Hypermobility Q&A with Bendy Bodies Dr. Linda Bluestein

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