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Changing the Narrative: The Untold Her-story of Human Evolution, with Cat Bohannon, Bestselling Author of Eve: How the Female Body Drove 200 Million Years of Human Evolution

Changing the Narrative: The Untold Her-story of Human Evolution, with Cat Bohannon, Bestselling Author of Eve: How the Female Body Drove 200 Million Years of Human Evolution

Update: 2024-02-28
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There’s this really old, really crap story that how we got here is about what the guys did. And women were just like some side character behind a hill, just like pounding some tubers, saying, ‘Oh, sorry guys. I see you're busy. I'm just gonna build the future of our species in my actual body’.” That’s how the brilliant and hilarious Cat Bohannon introduces the idea behind her New York Times bestselling book, Eve: How the Female Body Drove 200 Million Years of Human Evolution. Ten years in the making, and making a huge splash internationally, the book is a fascinating, myth-busting tour of biological evolution that re-examines everything we think we know about the human body by placing women at the center of it all. 

In honor of International Women's Day on March 8th, we’re thrilled to talk with Cat about her boundary-breaking book, which puts the female body in the foreground of biological research. It's not that there's a sexist cabal saying, ha ha! We're gonna understudy females”, she tells us, “It's that there’s this pre-existing idea that ovaries don't matter”. Cat shares how there’s a long history of female bodies being excluded from medical, evolutionary and biological research, and why that matters for everyone.

The interview also dives into Cat’s sci-fi movie inspiration for the book, how female figures in evolution were key to the humans of today, why the “male norm” in biological research developed in the first place, and how change in the scientific community is happening…slowly: “paradigm shifts are hard…that’s the hardest thing to break out of. A paradigm shift is the biggest thing there is”. Don’t miss this eye-opening discussion that looks at the human body from a whole different vantage point.

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The Breakout is the hit podcast hosted by human resources and change experts Dr. Keri Ohlrich and Kelly Guenther. The founders of Abbracci Group, a results-driven coaching, HR Management and consulting firm, Keri and Kelly are laser-focused on getting the best out of people. They launched The Breakout in early 2023 to find the best stories and advice on busting boundaries and making change, and since then the show has charted #1 in self-improvement, #1 in education, and #7 in all podcasts.

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About Cat Bohannon

Researcher, scholar, writer, freak. Cat completed her PhD in 2022 at Columbia University, where she studied the evolution of narrative and cognition. Her writing has appeared in The Atlantic, Scientific American, Science, The Best American Nonrequired Reading, Lapham’s Quarterly, The Georgia Review, and on The Story Collider. Eve is her first book and a New York Times bestseller. She lives in the U.S. with her partner and two offspring.


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Changing the Narrative: The Untold Her-story of Human Evolution, with Cat Bohannon, Bestselling Author of Eve: How the Female Body Drove 200 Million Years of Human Evolution

Changing the Narrative: The Untold Her-story of Human Evolution, with Cat Bohannon, Bestselling Author of Eve: How the Female Body Drove 200 Million Years of Human Evolution

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