Encore: Cody Johnson Is As Texas As They Come
Digest
This podcast features Cody Johnson discussing his life and career. He details his upbringing in rural Texas, emphasizing the influence of his family, church, and close-knit community. His time working in the Texas prison system significantly shaped his ability to discern character, a skill he uses in both his personal and professional life. Johnson openly discusses his complex relationship with faith, describing his experience with "church hurt" and his eventual return to a more balanced spiritual life. His musical journey is explored, from early influences and honky-tonk gigs to mainstream country success. He also shares his experiences as a rodeo competitor, highlighting the grit and determination that define him. The podcast includes a segment on Texas culture and pride, along with discussions about his collaborations, including his work with Carrie Underwood on "I'm Gonna Love You," and his new song "That's Texas." A poignant story about a difficult Christmas and the impact of Merle Haggard's music is also shared.
Outlines

Texas Roots and Early Life
Cody Johnson's upbringing in Sebastopol, Texas, his family, community, and early influences, including the impact of his church and his childhood home.

Prison System and Discernment
Johnson's experience in the Texas prison system, developing skills in reading people and assessing situations, impacting his career and personal life.

Faith, Forgiveness, and Family
Johnson's journey of faith, from a strict religious upbringing and subsequent departure to his eventual return, emphasizing family and forgiveness. Includes discussion of "church hurt."

Musical Journey and Influences
Johnson's musical influences, his father's role, and his transition from honky-tonks to mainstream country music success.

Rodeo, Resilience, and Texan Identity
Johnson's rodeo experiences, his determination, and how these qualities shaped his approach to music and life, connecting to his strong Texan identity. Includes discussion of his cutting horses.

Collaborations, Texas Pride, and Quick Questions
A rapid-fire segment on Texas culture, barbecue, tattoos, and a deeper dive into Johnson's Texan identity and pride, along with discussion of his collaboration with Carrie Underwood and his song "That's Texas." Includes Christmas memories and the influence of Merle Haggard.
Keywords
Texas Country Music
A subgenre of country music originating from Texas, characterized by its traditional country sound with a strong emphasis on storytelling and themes related to Texas life and culture.
Church Hurt
Negative emotional and spiritual consequences from harmful religious environments.
Discernment
The ability to judge well; acuteness of judgment; developed by Johnson through his prison work experience.
Rodeo
A competitive sport involving riding and handling livestock; a significant part of Johnson's life and identity.
Cutting Horse
A breed of horse trained for cutting competitions; Johnson breeds these horses.
Cody Johnson
Texas country music singer.
Carrie Underwood
Country music singer who collaborated with Cody Johnson.
Merle Haggard
Country music singer whose music influenced Cody Johnson.
Texas Culture
The unique traditions, values, and lifestyle of Texas.
Faith Journey
Cody Johnson's personal spiritual path and evolution.
Q&A
What is the most significant lesson you learned from working in the Texas prison system?
I learned discernment – the ability to quickly assess people's intentions and motivations. This skill has been invaluable in navigating both my personal and professional life, helping me identify genuine people and avoid potentially harmful situations.
How has your faith journey influenced your music and your life?
My faith journey has been a process of growth and understanding. Initially, a strict religious upbringing led to "church hurt," but I've found a more balanced faith focused on grace and forgiveness, which informs my songwriting and my approach to life's challenges.
What was it like collaborating with Carrie Underwood on "I'm Gonna Love You"?
It was an incredible honor. Carrie is a phenomenal vocalist and a genuinely kind person. Collaborating with her challenged me musically and was a truly enjoyable experience. The song's success is a testament to its quality and our combined talents.
What does it mean to you to be a Texan?
Being Texan means everything to me. It represents a unique history of sacrifice and resilience, a strong sense of pride, and a distinct cultural identity. It's a heritage I cherish and strive to instill in my children.
Show Notes
Episode Description: Cody Johnson was born and raised in a little place called Sebastopol, Texas, about a half hour northeast of Huntsville. It was the kind of small community where everybody knew everybody, and his family went to a small country church where his musical interest and skill found an audience. When he was 18, he went to work with his father in the prison system, an intense experience that taught him a lot about how to read people, and one that also found its way into his songs. And if all that weren’t enough for his Texas credentials, he also got into bull riding and has more recently put his passion into team roping and breeding cutting horses. As for his music, he’s been racking up CMA, CMT, and other awards, he has a new song called “That’s Texas” that is lighting up audiences far outside the Lone Star State, and his growing career has him collaborating with the likes of Carrie Underwood. Sid talks to Cody about why he got a tattoo on the bottom of his foot, why he’s at a point in his career when he can truly embrace his Texas identity, and a funny story about his grandmother’s banana pudding.
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Biscuits & Jam is produced by:
Sid Evans - Editor-in-Chief, Southern Living
Krissy Tiglias - GM, Southern Living
Lottie Leymarie - Executive Producer
Michael Onufrak - Audio Engineer/Producer
Jeremiah McVay - Producer
Jennifer Del Sole-Director of Audio Growth Strategy & Operations
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