Episode 1567 - Paul W. Downs

Update: 2024-08-22

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This podcast episode features comedian Mark Marin discussing his career journey, the comedy industry, and his experiences working on the critically acclaimed series "Hacks." The episode begins with Mark introducing NUME, a personalized weight loss program, and then transitions into an interview with Paul W. Downs, co-creator, writer, and star of "Hacks." They discuss the show's success, the challenges of portraying stand-up comedy, and Paul's own background in stand-up. Mark then shares his personal struggles with anxiety and self-doubt, recounts a recent night at the Comedy Store, and expresses his appreciation for the Democratic National Convention. He and Paul further discuss the challenges of portraying the life of a veteran stand-up comedian in "Hacks," the show's authenticity, and the importance of casting actors who can convincingly perform stand-up. Mark then reveals a personal connection to the name "Downs" and shares his family history, followed by a discussion of his early interest in acting, his attempts to book commercials as a child, and how he transitioned into comedy. He reflects on his unique and sometimes awkward personality as a child, his early stand-up experiences in New York, his transition to performing at the Upright Citizens Brigade (UCB), and his evolving comedic style. Mark then reflects on his early performance memories, including recreating Sesame Street sketches in third grade and doing an impression of Robin Williams in "Mrs. Doubtfire." He also discusses his experiences as a class clown and the origins of his comedic sensibility. He then discusses his early writing experiences, including creating character monologues in high school and his involvement in improv and sketch groups at Duke University. He also reflects on the challenges and complexities of creating a successful television show. Mark shares his experiences with the improv group at Duke, their charity shows, and the early days of YouTube, which emerged shortly after his graduation. He describes his early stand-up experiences in New York, including performing at the Comedy Cellar and the emergence of the comedy scene in the Meatpacking District. He discusses his desire to be like Robin Williams and his goal of becoming a multi-faceted performer who could do stand-up, acting, and other forms of entertainment. Mark discusses his early stand-up experiences at UCB and how the rise of digital comedy platforms like YouTube allowed him and his peers to bypass traditional comedy pathways. He highlights the impact of web series like Broad City and his own digital shorts with Lucia, which led to their first paid comedy job and ultimately their success in television. Mark shares the origin story of "Hacks," revealing that the idea came about during a road trip with Jen and Lucia. They were discussing the lack of recognition for female stand-ups compared to their male counterparts and the territorialism that exists within comedy. This sparked the concept of a show exploring the dynamic between a younger comedy writer and an older, established stand-up comedian. Mark details the casting process for "Hacks," including how they discovered Hannah Einbinder and the unique screen test they conducted during the COVID-19 pandemic. He reflects on the challenges of shooting during a pandemic, including the strict protocols and the emotional toll it took on the cast and crew. Mark discusses the evolution of "Hacks" and the upcoming fourth season. He reveals that the show's dynamic shifts as Ava becomes Deborah's head writer, creating new challenges and opportunities for both characters. He also touches on the themes of late night comedy, the state of comedy, and technology that will be explored in the new season. Mark acknowledges the Emmy nominations for "Hacks" and discusses the current focus on writing season four. He expresses his excitement for the new season and the opportunity to continue exploring the complex relationship between Deborah and Ava.

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